the, the, this is the w news live from berlin, poland, hence that it's flow of weapons to ukraine, may not be guaranteed to versus losing the aid of one of its strongest allies after 8 diplomatic route escalates attention. stem from the dispute over ukrainian brain . also coming up, you printing and president below the mirrors, the landscape pulse for fundamental change at the un security council. he asks the group to strip rush out of its veto power, plus a plan for tops on the board. no car box after as especially on the same swift

military victory and fights with ethnic armenian separatists. leaders meet to discuss the future of the break away regions at a new life from stem cells. scientists and israel make a breakthrough. and growing embryos without a fertilized egg, look into what that means for the future of humanity. the sarah kelly, welcome to the program. poland has suggested that it will no longer provide weapons to ukraine. prime minister mateusz motiv yet ski, made the comments after days of antagonistic statements between the 2 countries. he told the polish television station, we are no longer transferring weapons to ukraine, because we are now arming poland with more modern weapons. the attention was

sparked by the pulse decision to ban in ports of ukrainian grain. the flames were then found by ukrainian presidents lensky speech at the united nations in which you choose countries of feigning solidarity with ukraine. let's have a listen and it is alarming to see how some your it, some our friends in you are, play outside entirety and police go see a top making thriller from the green. and they may seem to play their own role, but in fact, they're helping, helping set the stage to it must go after and poland has someone to cranes ambassador over those remarks. warsaw, as deputy foreign minister said that they were hurtful to the polish people to sort of a miracle. the statement that countries such as poland or supporting russia is completely inconsistent with reality. it is very painful for many people in poland. millions

of poles have helps ukraine, helps you crazy and refugees. and we are still helping them. so such words should not be said, but guess what? i personally for being the brother. and let's get more on this. we are joined by my since up a rough ski, here's a lecture in international relations and also with the future of security program at the think tank lob sec. thank you so much for joining us here on dw news. poland prime minister has caused a lot of surprise. there's been a lot of reaction to his statement and confusion. how do you interpret what he said as i, i think it's a, it must be little bit of a miscommunication here taking place. i, i don't think the prime minister i wanted to say, but poland will no longer be involved in the transfer of weapons to ukraine. she just, i think that it was she wanted to quote when you kate is to say, but uh but, but, but the web phones that publish wipers will no longer be transferred to ukraine because

whatever they yeah but pos, solve index of it. the web funds will have all of had it on its disposal. they what they have already to be transferred to ukraine. so at this point in time pulling the most transfers all the old equipment and his army good selves. now with the effort device with a, with high mars would be, uh, will be k 2 times. so it was army itself would be, uh, was it modern, western and equipment. so that was uh then was perhaps the, uh, the message had to be prime. and if they wanted to go into katy, but in the context of what we have is this crisis over grain of ukraine, which obviously it was such as that the uh, the timing focus communication is a little bit unfortunately because this is not the right moment to to say things like that now because it could be misinterpreted. remind us about the crisis over gray. and i mean this has a lot to do actually with the blacks the brain deal uh,

being blocked by rush or rather no longer renewed. um, you know, and the pricing of grain i, as its heading to your, of tulsa a little bit more about, about what's been happening and why these tensions erupt. it in the 1st place as well. basically, a few months back, a published, almost protested against the transfer of ukraine in grain. avaya, poland. uh, same thing happened in slovakia, hungry, romania, a number of other countries because these grain instead of being transferred via these country was basically flooding the markets in these countries. which uh, which you know, 100 cars prices for be a domestic or domestic farmers. and band, poland turned to be a big permission to us for being bar, go on the import of ukrainian grain. this request was granted. and the, uh, until we said sleep, it was an embargo on the import of these grains,

specifically to poland and the number of other countries or the view crime. but still the transfer routes were being maintained. and we're pulling this now is and barbara end date and pulling wants to continue with this and barcode. and it's saying it's continues to ensure the transfer of ukrainian graded by a poland. but it does not long feet. it is great to end in poland itself. so that, that's in, that's not show, but what we've been seeing play now now, you know, over these, this last day regarding these statements, it might be so, you know, shocking for people to see that poland, which is internationally seen as, as one of the staunchest supporters of ukraine's war effort. so essentially, you know, raise now this criticism, one of the largest military donors of aid. how big a blow is this to ukraine's armed forces to it's war effort?

or is this really just about poland facing parliamentary elections coming up? well, elections are a very important element and all of us are so clearly are now we are in a period in which parts is, are competing for the label off protectors of the countryside. i'm the countryside was very unhappy about the influx of a cheaper the training grain and an over a foot stuff from from ukraine. so we can know dismissed. his argument is very important and one to the elections are, are contributing here to garage extensions. and we probably will see a quick resolution of these issues straight dr. b. election, which are due on the 15th of the, of october. but until then that unfortunately the government and the governing part in poland is probably not very interested in actually finding

a solution. but there is more interesting in, in the uh, email, projecting to be internal x ray, but, but exhaust is the only part to who is protecting you the countryside and who's standing for your interest. my sense of r, s. k, from the think tank gloves. so thank you so much for joining us to provide that context. we appreciate it. thank you. well, the load them as a westgate has also given a speech of the un security council into your calling for fundamental reform of the group. so lensky attended the meeting to discuss the war in ukraine. although ukraine is not part of the body. he used his time to call for fundamental change to the counsels veto process, saying as long as permanent member russia could block any resolution, the rest of the world can do nothing about. it's more of aggression against ukraine, frustrated by the security council's inability to prevent and in the war and ukraine, president below, to move to lensky, insisted the most critical path to protect the world from russian christian is to

strip it of its power at the un. a little guy because it isn't always the pyre veto in the hands of the aggressor is what has pushed the un into a deadlock with nibbling in that in the assembly. one thing, therefore, the un general assembly should be given real power to overcome the veto nicole. this is the essential step and most of them as if it is otherwise impossible to stop the war points of it though, because all efforts of v towed by the aggressor or those who condone the aggressor with tanya not what was left in the assembly. the rush is one of the councils, 5 permanent members, each is able to kill resolutions with the power of its veto, even when most nation support them. russia has repeatedly kept the un for moving against it, and it's a war of aggression and ukraine. the russian for administer, sir gay lover off, pushed back, accusing the west of geo political bias. he also defended russia's veto power,

then was a printing. they use a veto is an absolutely legitimate tool laid out in the un charter and order to prevent taking decisions that would risk splitting the organization. the product you possess zillow ski. however, one that i'm checked to veto power by a member leading an unjust war or diminishes the confidence smaller globe or players have in the when he also reached out to world leaders in the global south by calling from work and taishan in the body with expanded permanent membership as well. i mean the only business and i'm doing now by 5 is put to a he is a security analyst of the ceo of the political consultancy firm rasmussen, global. he joins us from the dread. so you printing and president for a load of mirrors, the lens was demanding reforms. good morning at the united nations security council . how realistic is that? that's why i think it's we all know that the security council is complete, keep our lives. and that was even the case before rush. i don't want you to serve

a war for aggression to get to craig. so it's highly unlikely that you are going to see any significant reform, simply because russia and actually also china will always present it to drop in. yeah. tend to be $12.00 to $13.00. 0, okay. a system of a 45 majority. so, so i think this is more kind of seen by the court to show that russia is indeed part of the program and it makes the right and actually updates the. what other reforms might be feasible though? i mean is there? is there any practical intention of, of this call made by the landscape when i think yes, a fee has been a long kind of debates and many attempts to reform the security council starting with broadening the number of coming up members, including which companies like india. but every single item has been blocked by the

members on, depending on the members of the security council, starting by china in russia, it's really hot. you can square the circle and these to prevent the phone from that is that it's making the way and especially it's core, which is a security comes to completely out of step. we've basically problems out there in the world talking to walk you crazy. this is the side of that we're supposed to a c, e o of rasmussen, global. unfortunately we have to leave it there, but we thank you so much for joining us from the good. thank you. still look at some other stories making news. venezuelan authorities say that they have regained control of a prison taken over by a powerful criminal gang. 11000 law enforcement officers were involved in the operation. and as well as biggest homegrown gang has made the present in the countries north, it's headquarters, reportedly installing a zoo, a pool, and other amenities. india is lower house of parliament has voted to reserve

a 3rd of its seats for women. that would more than double the number of female law makers and its ranks. the proposed law would also impose the same rules in the state legislature, but still require the upper house as approval. ron's parliament has passed the law increasing prison terms and finds for women who break the country strict as long as the dress code. this comes days after the anniversary of the death of not martha and me who was detained by the morality police for wearing a headscarf in properly or death in custody, sparked massive protest. azerbaijan is expected to hold tasks with armenian separatists, after, as swift, a military victory in the break away territory of new cornel kara, by, as about john's president says his country has regained control over the disputed region. after separatist ethnic armenian forces agreed to lay down their arms as

part of a ceasefire. protestors rallied in the armenian capital year of on, over the government's handling of the situation in the core, no car law accusing it of abandoning armenians during the fighting that separatist officials say killed at least $200.00 people. now the corner car box has internationally recognized as part of also by sean, even though most of its residents are ethnic armenians. the region has long functioned as a de facto autonomous region of the moment armenian forces left that trenches. that's what this video published by as a, by john's defense ministry claims to sure. just one day after launching a military operation, as a by john declared victory or the separatists in the armenian majority enclave of not going to retire by 2910 minutes. and as a result of the start of anti terrorist measures yesterday at the approximately

1300 hours and the successful completion as a by john has restored it's suffering t oh, shortly lini. by the way, the tensions have been charged in the break re region of to as a bunch on blockaded the only road to armenia last year that led to food and medicine shortages and accusations of ethnic cleansing. the latest round of fighting began after as a by chance for an ministry said 4 soldiers and 2 civilians had died in land, mont explosions in the region during attacks and artillery flash and thousands of residents fleeing many to a camp operated by rushing pace. cases that manian sizes were out numbered and under supplied, leaving them no choice but to lay down their arms across the border in armenia,

discontents with the government's handling of the crisis reached boiling point the capital years on has been ruptured by sometimes violent anti government protest many few that president has abandoned ethnic armenians to the phase of the results of the minimum of the whole nation. disagrees with the surrender of nicole now kind of back to as a by john no one agrees with that. and the government, our government is inactive. it does nothing. the threats of a full scale war has been invested. so now that the region lies in taxes, as if by chance, presidents has promised to turn it into a paradise and says he wants to integrate to the population. the claims that ethnic armenians unlikely to view with mold and a bit of fear and skepticism. as for more on this,

let's bring in analysts voucher we have from the international crisis group. welcome to the program and thank you for joining us. what is going to happen to the people living in the corner car box because they don't want integration with us or by sean to they sent you 70 for the white. the morning of i sing, what will happen? it's so so as you know that 2 days, of course, when we think between those of our representatives and the presumptive a credible, i mean that's taking place in the city of your blog and the outcome of this meeting . these are people in shaping the future. the most, i'm in buckle on space, president time table for design, remember and this month level that it is this instruct service in colorado as well as outlined. it's vision important competition. so how are they alive? the how the intuition it will take place. this is also is essential and if this talks about of icon, i would like to say that though, so, i mean there is also community needs after this mental formation such as the main

people, it will paint it's 4 different places and a and say that there is a commentary on the east coast and they need you to and also to support are coming from the international montana organizations remind us of the background of this conflict. why is this region so disputed a bridge on the doesn't see is a dispute. the reason uh the, the 1st of all grow out in the 90 s which was what was on last. and not only that, the foreman, that one a couple items, almost. it was the other 4 items, almost king size, so it does origin. so windows of the 1st floor broke off and then additional junior additional and this was ended up was unable, as it was on most of 7 editing territories of turnover. okay. and uh, the, the problem itself, it took a new la 25 years to negotiation between those original. no, i mean, yeah. and there were some called them is uh which uh that problem is that the, the size can reach uh, be segmented without going to the war. however,

the unfortunate and this piece never came and uh, the, the, so them most meet the rescission in the region since 2016 and, and then we so a uh, a 6th stable of 6 weeks work in the 2020, which as a result of the war actually, the is on the ground has change. so it says i was always out again, 7 address into service and also the portion of the appointment, or what kind of a hot items of was. and also the russian peacekeeping forces deployed to the region . however, the existing structure is in default to also this out. i mean can place and they administer to this version. uh, so from now or from. yeah, sorry, um you know, you, you just highlight, you know, how, how long this conflict has been going on there and also that the moody, so charged and the positions are, are so deeply entrenched on both of besides, you mentioned that these talks are expected to happen today between us or by sean

and they are many and separate us. and i'm just wondering if you can also give us a sense of what's at stake for the governments of these 2 countries, especially in armenia in europe on for example, where we saw protest happening yesterday. people were quite upset about the government's engagement in these discussions. uh uh yes, i mean coming. uh, so i was, i was, i see the talk to this armenia and the police couple how much the 2 separate fact. so as of which i see you, this is the intent of the month. so, i mean, just like it was kind of a high mean of what is the role of to or mean you know, the consumers. let me tell patients, thoughts even long before that there would be a new world between us. it was, you know, not, i mean, yeah, but it happened, it didn't happened. and uh, and right now the station at least the stable version of it was you know what i mean? yeah. i mean, yeah. so the discussion between a was a non dependable jaime, known as that important element of the piece stokes concluded in the piece i

completed seen those are present and on their media. so they expect it from about quote, to uh, to, to minutes these folks. so that's what i mean and pollution was that this is a right now. it's a matter between us always and on our behind me and i was not able to find house. so that's what i mean. yeah. it's not a part of these the process right now, and definitely as you describe there is a also the concern, hundreds of processing. it can go to long. that's why armina is not active or but the reality is that both how i mean equity act, it's not the same station as it was before the 2021. thank you so much for that clarification. i know south shari'a from the international crisis group. we appreciate it. i secrets can biological reproduction ever become obsolete? well, that's a question that researchers and is real are trying to answer. for now, it looks impossible to create a human baby without a mother and a father to help,

but they have made a striking progress in showing an embryo basically from scratch. this is what a 2 week old embryo looks like, but it didn't come from the fusion of a sperm cell and an egg cell. it was made from stem cells. researchers from the vitamin institute of science and israel learned how to reprogram stem cells into cells found in an early stage embryo. after jacob hannah's teen mixed them together . a few turned into balls of cells called aggregates, which grew into something that strikingly resembled human embryos. about one percent of the aggregate. so we can see that these thoughts start differentiating correctly, migrating and sorting themselves into the correct structure and the farthest we could get it as day for team and human embryos develops. scientists in the field are quick to point out that even if the cell aggregates start to look and act like

embryos is still far from the real thing, the method has limits. i want to emphasize that if you're talking about trying to make a whole baby pregnancy outside of uterus, that is just impossible because the human embryo is very big for this is 9 months. so that is not, it's not, it's not. our goal is actually also impossible and no concerns about that. instead, the goal is to create models that give a better understanding of what happens directly after an egg is fertilized, without the ethical concerns involved. and using real human embryos. even now to little is known about early development and what can go wrong in the 1st to crucial weeks after conception. it's a time when many pregnancies is fired file. so refreshing site that might come from the use of the stand. so based models of human embryos might lead to

a better understanding of the causes of miscarriage. and indeed some of the really unique aspects of these are the stages of human development that could lead to important medical breakthroughs and reproduction. but the technology also takes us one step further into an ethical mind field. and let's get more on that. we are joined here by data science before the are on a card houses on the story. it sounds like a potential game changer. how excited are you about this features or are you concerned? well sarah, the thing is, we know disturbingly little about the beginning of our existence, our 1st days and weeks of life are impossible to study without compromising the safety of the embryo and the womb. so, but at the same time, this is a period in which a lot of pregnancy is a fail and we just don't know why. so embryo models are an amazing and really striking work around to study those periods in this black box. they could help and treats miscarriages genetic diseases or the birth defects they could be used to

prove the safety of trucks use during pregnancy, or they could be used one day. but that's where the future scenario um to grow to shoes and organs for it. surgical transportation, so one could say as far as start, i'm pretty excited. so why is that such an ethical mind feel that if it does have those positive potential practical applications? sure, so to study these questions which is laudable endeavor, scientists want to come as close to real human embryos as possible, as they cannot do research on the embryos themselves. and until recently, that wasn't the problem. as the embryo models they created for on the a sketchy resemblance to real embryos, just these times are over no one stem cell. biologist told me that seeing these and remodeled sent a chill down his spine as they were so similar to natural embryos. that's why researchers are, you got to say, these are not real embryos. these are not real embryos. these are just models. but how do we say this close is to close?

hm. and, you know, the scientists we have to mentioned in that report um says that they're still a long way from recreating human embryos. so it is for honest though, i mean, is that the ultimate goal? yeah, the model is created by the groups of jacob, hannah and other groups earlier this year are incredibly similar, but they're not identical with human embryos. and at the moment that's not the goal . not for the scientists. they want to understand how the process work. they don't want to and to create artificial life. and there are also legal restrictions preventing that spots. and these and promoters are far from the stage from being transplanted into the room, which is what we would need in order to nourish them. it's possible to nourish a couple of for, to trust ourselves in a petri dish. but doing this, this with a baby becomes pretty advanced. so it's not the goal at the moment. it's pretty far away. but researches and proceeding progressing at an unprecedented speeds. and

so at the moment, there is no human or animal embry, a model that ever formed in the united. but science was taking baby steps to what's, what's your, what's your big takeaway that, how should we all feel about this? i'm, i'm torn apart. it's on the one side, it's really and like i'm a major milestone and science. on the other hand, it's brings humanity closer towards something. we're really like taking our hands off from like, we don't want to create artificial life and the research, the community and science society has to ask this question. where do we say hold to this research? and where do we say this is what we need in order to understand or early days and understand basic processes. but this is kind of as that too far impact dw science reporter on a card house, putting this on the context for us. thank you so much. i it's, and with that now you're up to date here on data that is coming up. next is our magazine focus on europe, which descends into car sheaves,

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