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[000:00:00;00] the, this is tina with the news line from berlin, talks on the corner car box and without in agreements opposing sides had meant to discuss the future of the dispute. a region as residents accused, as or by john of breaking the latest face far on the program. ukraine's president is a landscape nice u. s. president joe biden. the winehouse invest comes after talks with congressional leaders or a warrant. us support is needed to defeat russia. and poland fact tracks on
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suggestions that it will stop supplying weapons to ukraine or saw says it is still committed to its neighbors. security. as the 2 countries argue over a polish ban on ukrainian grain, important and lawmakers in germany states phase are being over whelmed by irregular migration. they go to the border of poland to find out how far it is. there are coping with the large numbers of arrivals the, i'm the call for like tell reviewers on p b s and the united states and all of you around the globe. welcome to the show. as mic armenians have accused of their advice on the security forces of violating the cease fire in no core, no carol, authorities and gunfire had been heard in the center of the regional capital as everybody's on the noise bianca's ations. this comes as peace negotiations between
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the 2 sides and without an agreement, talks in the very city of yes, law or scheduled after, as around john's military victory this week over as make our meeting and separatists in the corner of the region is internationally recognized as part of us or by john, even though most of its residents are ethnic, armenians, and it has long functioned as a de facto autonomy, as region didn't address celebrating armenian independence from the soviet union. prime ministers, nicole pushing young, called for peace. they thought a bunch of domains many people think it is not adequate to talk about peace in the spence regional environment under the conditions of military conflict flooding from time to time. but out of, in the but spot it clearly under these conditions to be, should be valued and be, should not be confused with the troops or a ceasefire party. some of the target for more i can now speak to niagara ferry and he's an independent research or on the south caucasus. and he joins us tonight from
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washington and welcome now as arise on ends to reintegrate. and i'm going to occur along with this population. what do you think lies ahead for the ethnic armenians living there? thank you for this opportunity. there is really just a lot of uncertainty in the air. as you mentioned, there are some reports even of the ceasefire, not being honored by the us or by johnny's side. that concerns us, the armenians of our south, of my rental car about are very well grounded. some individuals and expert organizations have even gone so far as to characterize as everybody's on the policies as genocide or ethnic cleansing. so it's very difficult to imagine a secure armenian population living under the hazard by the government, and i'm afraid the question marks loom very large. yeah. and the armenian prime minister and accomplishing and we heard him there. he says that there is no direct
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threats to the civilian population of no core, no cardwell. so do you think he's, he's mistaken there. i think that there is a lack of information coming out of the gartner, colorado at the moment the infrastructure has been very about the damage anyway, after 9 or 10 months as a blockade with very limited electricity and fuel and gas. so that is definitely one factor. the other factor is mr. pushing ons emphasis that the army and i saw an important car about must be allowed to continue living in their homes. there has to be mechanisms in place that guarantee their security. so the army and government itself is not preparing to to welcome an influx of refugees. armenia, now that you talk about security guarantees are many, are relied on russian peacekeepers to maintain order and protect civilians. now we know that russia has a,
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a war on its hands. it's presumably distracted right now. but the peacekeepers were on the ground. so why were they not able to stop this or the russian dc for us have had a um, a mixed outcome over the past 22 and a half years its true. and in particular, yesterday, it seems like there was a, a political decision that the rhetoric coming out of moscow in the last 2 days. he suggests very strongly that for the leadership of russia, the car about issue has been the status of and then going to car about right. there is no longer a priority and that the policies procedures, by, by who should be they should be treated as an internal matter for, for us or by john. now they also are emphasizing that we sent a recent outreach by the added onto the west is
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a contributing factor. but the only real power with, with a presence on the ground has been russia at all. ready times so whatever western initiatives have taken place, they have not been sufficient. there has been monitoring by the european union that has uh, contributed to some to some uh, security on the borders with us are based on an army. yeah. but on the whole, there is no one to replace the russians. and just briefly, if that is even possible because we are looking at peace negotiations and what kind of deal would be acceptable to the 2 parties for the army on side. some kind of international my can is, um, is highly desirable because as i mentioned relying on these, you know, extortionist violence policies. it being put in place by who is not is not
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reasonable. so even as we speak, the united nations security council is holding a discussion on this issue. if there is some kind of international mechanism that could create an atmosphere for an engineering keys that might be the way forward. right, so ferry and chris speaking to you again. thank you. thank you. your grands president will let him or zalinski is meeting you as president job. i'm in the white house. he's already met with us lawmakers and washington dc to ask for continues, humanitarian and military. a, his visit comes out of crucial time as democrats and republicans final over the budget. republicans want to rethink us spending an ukraine while the buying the administration is pushing for an extra $24000000000.00 to help keep in it's find against russian aggression. the white house believes we ukraine president is the best messenger to keep that vital in coming more from our correspondence stuff on simon's in washington and stuff on,
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on his last visit the landscape was received with an over whelming show of support was the ukrainian president and welcome this time around. or was there a very, very different reception this time around? because of course, the political landscape has changed significantly here, significantly here in the us and specifically on capital hill in congress in the house of representatives. no more, nancy pelosi, no more democratic majority and up the g o. p republicans are in majority now with the new speaker and who speaker he was elected in january. so after the 1st visit of a lot of musicians in december, 2020 to mike mccarthy and kevin mccarthy, i'm sorry. kevin mccarthy. the new speaker of the house denied mister zalinski, a meeting with the full cockers and met with him. and with his democratic problems or equivalent to this morning earlier right now,
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this is an escape is with president biden in the white house. and there he received some good news after he just got more or less of a cold or shoulder from kevin mccarthy. the republican speaker of the house in congress. now, the good news is for mister lensky, is that to me is the president promised him significant help more artillery on t armor systems and the aircraft systems and air defense capabilities. so the begging and bidding of mrs. a lansky coming to america, and making his case for a critical help that the americans should give to ukraine in the effort to fight of the russians has been heard and reward it to some degree. me said he get every thing he was asking for. no, absolutely not seats one, it's to get. let me tell you what. this is so called a tech comes that is army tactical missile system. why do they want this?
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because this missile system of this missile ballistic missile has a range of 300 kilometers or 190 miles. that would make every russian unit anywhere in the territory of ukraine. reset the bowl are vulnerable to ukraine and missile attacks. however, the white house of the united states decided that this is not going to happen. that mr. miller is, the lensky does not, and will not receive this kind of immunization right now because of the assessment off the pedagogy. and mrs. uminski also met with the lawyer to austin, the secretary of defense there assessment is that ukraine does not meet these kinds of rep and re, as of now us support for ukraine started off as a strongly bi partisan issue in congress. now, when he was there last time around, he got standing ovations from both sides of the aisle. what happened?
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let's see what happens. um, 1st of all, let me say that even the public is in a different space right now. and what do i mean by this? latest pulse suggest that 55 percent and majority of the united states is not very comfortable anymore with endless spending towards ukraine for the american people, ukraine, and the conflict. then ukraine is far away. however, there is maybe somewhat of a communication problem because everybody understands if you go in the in depth and in the deep with people arguing or discussing ukraine, they understand that there is basically no real alternative to supporting the ukraine to keep russia at bass. anything else would be disastrous for the united states, and keep in mind, united states spend just 5 percent on ukraine, 5 percent of what it spends on its military needs in a year, which is 2 trillion dollars on your credit. so it's the bottom line p not if you take a broader approach to look at this. however,
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tribes have changed and people want to know that everybody does, does, is part i think politicians are. and that's what experts say so well advised to tell the constituencies that europeans do the best they can and all they can to support ukraine. and as long as this is warranted, the americans will not waiver in their support, probably will not wavering their support for ukraine. that is not, it runs in washington. thank the poland government says it will deliver all of the weapons and ad previously promised to ukraine. that is, after a prime minister, mattel's more advanced gate caused confusion when he said in an interview that his country had stopped sending arms, a dispute over the sale of your cleaning grain in europe, had less to diplomatic tensions with poland. previously, you creams strongest supporter in europe. when they last met in july, the president of poland and ukraine left no doubt about their friendship. just
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a few weeks later and the mood seems to have changed. in an interview, the polish prime minister made this surprising statement. the name was written for you because we m, we are no longer transferring buttons to ukraine because we all know and also with the latest equipment to the name of which i think if you want to defend yourself, you must have what it takes to defend yourself. or shoot me interesting, but don't use that going so far. the reason i am his words caused great confusion around the world. because until now poland has been one of you, cranes, main military supporters. among other things or so has supplied keith with 320 tanks and 14 combat aircraft. the polish foreign ministry tried to clarify that it will continue to stand by ukraine side, and that it intends to honor all previously agreed arms deliveries. but observers are still puzzled by the prime minister's statement. the report was composed noticed a significant escalation in the situation of the prime minister statement about this. continuing the supply of new arms to ukraine in my view was entirely
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unnecessary and has generated a highly, i'm favorable, global perceptions. ok to the other. it's ukrainian citizen. this might sound like potent and seizing and support. uh, taking that off the conference. they've gotten a major point of conflict between poland and ukraine is the so called rain dispute . ukraine can hardly export any grain through it sports because of the russian c blockade. that means significantly more deliveries are coming by road and rail through you countries such as poland and hungary, those countries for your cheap ukrainian green will lower prices for their own farmers. they've announced the import band, which in return has triggered an angry repute from the ukranian president. it is alarming to see how some you are at some our friends in your play out. so the entirety and police go see a top making thriller from the green. those keys in warsaw say they will hold talks in the coming days over the green dispute. the goal they say is to find
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a solution that is in the interest of both countries. so what should we make up? the polish foreign ministry is walking back the prime minister's comments. the w correspondent, rosie birchers in brussels. talk me through it. well, we have had some clarifications from the polish government. they said that they will owner existing agreements to signed arms and the pollings role as a crucial hub for the transit of weapons from other donors into crate will be unaffected. i've been speaking to one polish official that side will simply pull in his already sent ukraine for 8 had installed. he said, pulling is one of you create the biggest supporters militarily into practically. and he said, there is a, the, there was a heated debate going on, but we need to look at the bigger picture of poets as a staunch supporter of ukraine. i think she would dispute that more so has proved itself as a big political ally to keith thought that official told me to look at the bigger
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picture when i look at the bigger picture, what i see here is that it seems that with these clarifications from the post government, there might not be any big change materially on the bribes, in terms of weapons ukraine's. but it does seem that this is a shift in rhetoric on a side of a deepening political risk between poland and ukraine. countries which are neighbors which remain very much as allies, but do seem to be in the middle of quite a political showdown, a bit of a rocky period and their relationship as dw corresponding rosie birchers importing from brussels. let's take a look now at some of the other stories making news around the world today. but one of them is landscape, address the special session of the human security council, and call for russia to be stripped of its nito, the, of granting and presidents that of russia's invasion of his country violent of the norms of war and of the un itself. un charter contains no mechanisms for the expulsion of
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a permanent security council members ex and see me sir. brazil supreme court has ruled against a cutoff date limiting indigenous land claims. the country is powerful agri, business lobby had pushed for native peoples land rights to be restricted to only territory they occupied in 1988. when brazil is current, constitution was an acted, the ruling will pay the way for more indigenous reservations in the amazon and in the nation, muslim woman has been jailed for 2 years over a viral tick tock, video, and which they said as lennox phrase before eating. org accords are found, the lifestyle influence are guilty of and signing religious hatreds. under the countries blasphemy was eating pork is strictly forbidden and as long the original lawmakers and germany are calling on the government to get a grip on what they call uncontrolled, irregular migration. so far this year,
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more than $14000.00 people entered germany illegally via the border with poland. local authorities say reception centers cannot cope with a pressure. local lawmakers want berlin to set up permanent border checks, dw reporter matthew more went on for tour with federal police and the town of forest and on the border with poland pits the crack of dawn on. the gentleman told his border on police on patrol. he real clearly had time to recall before the flushed call on 8 men all from syria dropped off with nothing more than the clothes that we're going to. if you look at the moment, this is a daily occurrence and self brandon book. we have to deal with smuggle people every day. the man i've taken to the police station to begin the long process of applying for asylum. i called the road before long a report has come in. trespasses have been spotted on
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a train track in the middle of nowhere where we workers try to help. eventually the group is found. what do you i bought the don't tend the forest by a smuggler who flayed but we can't hang around because we're cold to respond to reports of a suspicious man. the cargo is all too familiar, but nevertheless shocking. 13 people including 2 children, payload. most of them syria would have made the journey via the balkans. but i'll finish no tennessee job for police to work out who is trafficked on to his traffic off on top of his me at the drive, but as an 18 year old syrian who is in the asylum process. he in germany after a short escape, where he fled on foot, he was arrested for one. instead, you only have to look at the inside of this binds, get
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a sense of how dire the journey was. was banana skins, empty ball. so it was not strewn across the floor. that's fairly space for 30 people to stand, nevermind. sit, it's all. hi, gina. it gets on comfortable when above all, it's on safe authority. see the number of undocumented migraines crossing germany's eastern border has risen exponentially in recent months. regional ministers to be kind of cool as our systems are working in overload mode and the high influx, which is now well over 300, probably 400000 still to come this year. it's causing our local municipal systems to collapse. statements will collapse t once fix border controls, the likes of which have been imposed on the southern german border since 2015. the government in bel let and however, is not in favor. he saw the number of illegal arrivals as rising because we don't effectively protect you is alta bowed up. and if we don't do that,
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then it will make no difference if we put up stationary border controls everywhere we will be addressing a problem, but not the causes. that's why it's not the right approach. until you find a coordinated approach to border control human traffic, those will continue to exploit things in the system and asylum seekers will find the promise of a new life hard to resist. so what's the government's planning to deal with the current situation? i put that question to our political correspondence. i'm young. while the government says that they recognize that the situation with a asylum seekers and all the migrants arriving ease is a key to these difficult. uh and uh, what they said. as you heard there was that they don't believe that just putting no police manpower on the board at crossings would help very much. it might be too easy to get round that. what they say instead is, you know,
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let's keep looking for an e u wide asylum policy, a better one than we've gotten. now, they say that they believe that they can get that even in time for next year's european parliament elections. but of course, it has been in the works for decades, and it's clearly very difficult to do. the government also says that they are working on agreeing a bilateral agreements with individual countries where some of these people come from, if they can be considered as safe countries of origin. so agreements in principal at that those people could be sent back. of course, in practice at 8 off and that doesn't work out quite as easy as that assignment. a new study just concluded that far right, attitudes are becoming more and more mainstream and germany. what does the study tell us about people's feelings about migration? yes, so this is a study by the free press a but foundation, which is
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a think tank that's close to the german social democratic policy. and they do this study every couple of years, looking at how well and could the liberal democratic values are in german society. so on migration, what they said is that, you know, it does seem that there is a growing trend to more intolerant attitudes when it comes to asylum seekers and migrants. for instance, said they say that 40 percent of people believe that you know, the, the german state at treats a migrant. so refugees back to then it treats germans who need help. and another finding, you know, they say people who come from ukraine seen much more favorably. they say by the, by themselves talking about mainstream entities, then people who come from syria or africa. so i think that gives you just a, a sense of that to things are you know,
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that they may be somewhat more welcoming atmosphere as far as, uh, as far as people arriving and asylum seekers is concerned. what are some of the other takeaways from the study? so i'm a yeah, some of this is pretty alarming. i have to say uh, because it does seem to show that there's a growing sort of acceptance in the main stream of jim society for the far right views. so the study says that around 8 percent of germans now have what can be described as a, an extreme right? well, the view of what does that mean? well, it includes things like supporting the idea of a strong and your kind of figure or a leader who would lead the country in a dig tutorial fashion with a strong hand at it's the idea that the goal of gym and foreign policy, for instance, should be at to promote the power and the importance of gemini, and in some cases,
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support for these kind of ideas has tripled just within the last couple of years. and also the great zone of those people. these are the sites. oh, well, sometimes these ideas are ok and we have to look at it on a case by case basis. that's growing to another point. young people more, more likely to agree with some of these fall right? i did in times gone past, of course there was a much bigger divide between older and younger germans that, that seems to be changing and worrying. it results from this study that suggest, you know, in the main street, in the society of these type of fall, right? so it is becoming more acceptable. we're in trends and they have some young. thank you i'm here are some more headlines to india. stop processing these as for canadians until further notice, as the 2 countries remain locked in at the amount of the dispute. canadian prime minister justin trudeau has accused indian authorities and being involved in the killing of a sick separatist leader on canadian soil. there's also a canadian citizen village,
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then it wants to reduce the number of canadian diplomats and india as well. thousands of greek public sector workers have marched through athens during a strike against the conservative governments plan char, changes to labor laws. argument is debating to proposals that include allowing employers to impose a 6 day work week. the government says the plans will boost employment and clamped down on the informal economy. archaeologists and zombie i have found with may be evidence of the early as known, wouldn't construction. the team of local and international archaeologist made their discovery at a site near the shores of lake tongue danita. they believe the 2 logs slotted together at right angles may be remains of a dwelling or a similar construction. if true, that would rewrite the pre history of humankind as they date back nearly half a 1000000 years. to a time when experts thoughts our ancestors,
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let no magic lives and have not yet learned to build with what i'm. here's a quick reminder of our top story. the ethnic armenians have accuses, arise, honors, security forces are violating the cease fire and according to current. it's already said gunshots has been heard in the center of the regional capital is or by john denies the accusations. this comes as peace talks between the 2 sides and that without an appointment. bear with us after a short break, i will be back to take you through the day and i do hope to see you there by
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[000:00:00;00] the old we can be the generation, the ends at feel good. malaria must die. so millions can live the following conservative party was very keen to make migration a central issue of a 3 election campaign. but this is probably not what they were imagining. less than a month before the general election. the country as rocks by accusations that consular officials in africa and asia, gave out thousands of these us to uninvited, foreigners,
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