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the they were gruesome, painful treatments. beastly. the intense pain erased all feeling the show back now that could have just been please entered his research card, but he thought he should be in the front row after my name is professor called cloud bag. i performed forced sterilizations from march 1943 to january, 1945. i subjected 280 women to trials. a 150 was sterilized. according to my method, the
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in 1955 tons. you're kind of an odd no, a negotiated the return of 10000 german prison as a rule from sylvia of captivity, causing a sensation in the young federal republic of germany. the gynecologist hotel bag was among those freed. he soon became the subject of news reports. p to hope to stalls and meet with the new republic. but the central council of twos in germany fall charges against him in november 1955 of conducting medical trials on numerous female prisoners in l shreds. trials that lead to serious health consequences and even death. many victims could no longer be questioned. others would to a shame to speak out the women
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who did to testify was subjected to degrading procedures to medicaid verify based statements. the german quotes down today results. professor cal back had been luminary in east butte, cal back is kind of cut out that made medical history in reproduction, research that fit very well with nazi id, ology and politics, teacher 9. and that enabled simple to perform these experiments. an ocean that sits degree, leaving the heights. these are for the few and just hop for he enjoyed significant advantages. i gained a lot of personal privileges for the price of becoming a criminal. simple question. it's about the
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sugar bowl in days i was born on january 7th, 1921 cents on the phone. we were the 1st house in the street with the telephone and telephone and house event because i was about to be born on while my father was a merchant with the money for a telephone. so it was my mother had 3 children, men. and what uh, i kinda just yeah, that was born in warsaw and was very young. when i came to brussels, the my parents migrated from eastern europe. we were a very, very happy family citizen. and suddenly i had a very good childhood inbox and we were very close back then. i
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was born in 1898 in football hoffman is holding and i started school in keel when i was 6 years old. i graduated in november 1916 and was drafted the next day the i began university of to i was freight as a p o w. i study my edison and keel some books and cods. my dissertation dealt with desk by embolism and was recognized as very good scientific work. the
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we lived in a very small department before the war in the 19th district, a working class area parents. my mother was in the resistance but still took care of me to proceed until she could no longer do both the state back then there was an organization that looked after children and placed them with families series on the phone on the big garage that thanks to them, i live sometimes here, sometimes there whenever it became too dangerous, they took me further away. in the end, i lived in a small village near shuttle to be called mall some town where i stayed until the end of the war. i grew up in hiding the
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good good. well i met my wife when she was 19 she was brought to the women's hospital, which tuberculosis related, ovarian swelling, on both sides, the, at the end of her treatment. she told me she 1st hated me, then locked me. and one day i knew that if she ever gave herself to a man, it wouldn't be me. they married 5 years later. but since his wife was in photo,
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cloud back began an affair with his secretary is the guy. she gave beth to 2 children and eventually lived with a cal backs and a 3 way relationship. my research during that period, it was very significant. i studied female hormones and demonstration cycle. i published a projected in test that could confirm fatality. in keeping with scientific practice, the test was called the cloud back test. callback is a monday it's, it's kind of cut out that certainly made medical history or so what does reproductive research is with the share and company all by can to somebody to for my share think those were exciting use i build the foundation for producing synthetic estrogen and for just to run together with sharing call about the
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whole school. as course to yes, hitler was already in power. not ma'am google after my birthday in january, i had to go back to school to, to minnesota. and the teacher told me to sit down and not talk to anyone him on flush with me month a double. hitler was already having an impact and there were fewer kids in the class. but this was old us an attempt to meet me on my end, integrated with me after i finished school into shuler on easter full stop on the hudson. she found an apartment for us in the netherlands. well, we'll come in, hold on a little minute. on may 10th,
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1940 to germany invaded the netherlands, and the luxembourg belgium and france the entire west. on the same day that vincent de okeydoke, the people didn't realize them. what a danger hitler paused. don't she go look good, but we have been dealing with it since 1933. don't. because we were hosting german refugees. but let's say you do that in spanish, refugees after 1936. yeah, you really see it's been you doing good to the resistance didn't start from in 1940 when belgium wasn't dated, smoking all of a sudden, 1933 to to dish a. d, me the simple, the c s. there was a raid and a ton of all the jewish men and the oh,
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so we heard terrible screens from our neighbor's yard i had been researching facility and infertility since 1925. i started with the assumption that there wasn't yet a non surgical infertility treatment or sterilization method. the professor kyle back is considered one of the most important researchers in the field of a very in hormones most the professor callbacks scientific research has been carried out in close cooperation with researchers from our central laboratory.
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as it might not be just a few. and he was one of the many gynecologist problem who was talented in recognizing the situation and making discoveries and being in the right place at the right time listing. authentic problem just to came into the chemical industry support. certainly played a role in what he developed for putting my successes were widely recognized and also rewarded in the form of hands and fees from sharing the wall was the only reason i didn't make it to a university at is the money certainly made a career for himself and even related to medical directors. but he had even greater ambitions too on him, i had heard of my plans. i was summoned to 1000000000 on march 22, 1940 for a private tulip with him. in the end,
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i told him about my problem of non surgical sterilization which i had been working on for 15 years. i came to ask me if my clinics were sufficiently equipped with research disabilities. ready if not. ready he would set them up for me in the test and password is this suited him other on the more of an i elation that the nazis were planning because for new students i'm carrying out in eastern europe, tom bush, true on types fill without trying to sit to see your decision, i would like to suggest that the necessary experiments, as well as facilities be carried out in the i'll shoot it's concentration camp. how hit the, your very respectful professor cloud bag, the
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ocean osh. it's i'm calm when i arrived at our states, the come on down to is not even 30 years old in a black uniform and kept her on the she was looking for women who pops up the phone. i was googled, shop destination. i didn't realize it at the time and about me, but my husband said he'd never seen me again or the shop cuz i told him to keep his chin up and call not give up permission or he just shook his head him off. no, no. and suddenly on the phone is h u, we didn't know where we were. so we had no idea what, what happened to us was that they said what struck us was the terrible stench, not a single tree, not a single bird complete silence through the serial school play the end of today. so we all got a number on our arms. no,
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and from there we were only numbers. and then we were put in the testing blocks for the low the code it should look as lot tens. main purpose was a secondary genocide, or in other words killing the unborn, me showed low, not get the so there would be no more undesirable races to us light kindly up. it will become a cloud on this. we got clothes that weren't hours the month. sure. glad to go. some of them were strive to prison clothes, a missional for you the instructions. i was already very fin by then, so they fit me own as well. i was glad that i found a dress rather than prison clothes. let's for i'm stuck. dish left to don't be some
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clean. do use a we went into block 10. we moved to put we were taken to the 1st floor and shown the beds. tv. i don't know to lift. the younger women climbed up to the top. com and it was a sheet and those were 35 or 40. took the lower bands, silver c. o, but we each had our own bed. a mattress with a little straw and a blanket. yes. even to a sheka event. and yeah, and do you do it? and then we way just want to go from i was called the info every day 10 women were called by their numbers are no more sure. i was numbers 60 to 500 in one of those. usually a i don't know if it's a special call came one day drobek ashwood see we were standing and rows of 5 c. 2 in cloud bag chose those of us. he wanted to the easy but daily she only
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wasn't terrifying. he, he was short and styled with the to roll in how to, why the stall things and heavy walking shoes did the loan, the goals for sure, the doing then not at all how you imagine then assess, man, do you assess the solution, the machine? yeah. the, the rooms i needed from my intended activity as well as the hygienic facilities were on the blocks lower floor. the . the women were housed on the upper floor. my assistants, 4 or 5 of whom had been technical assistance, was selected from these 250 women. the
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we were told by number and the best. and then caliber or some other guy injected something to into our vagina is fast now. and then he said, no more children kindly came to the shameless uniqueness. yeah, i had no idea. you know, i was in perfect health. she should, i've never seen an x ray machine before. so in a visual me i remember exactly what it was like,
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assistance being a huge machine with 2 frames with wooden blocks do like to be stored between the 2 racks with one wouldn't block in front and one in the back of a cube. don't to kill backs if i was in law, i little birds, non surgical sterilization was only one method. the stride is test list. assess dr. hall's 2 months also experimented with x ray radiation. at the same time, most time i don't really premier, for the tribute is just cheapest for the 1st ones that went very quickly. i was the 2nd to supercede it. so i did, i didn't notice anything bad. just a little redness unless you need it should neil young and pretty tough. me a c field. the 1st woman showed nothing at all to know twas, you know, but it started to take longer and longer to see. the 3rd woman had visible marks,
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the 4th, even more than the last ones were doubled over in severe pain and nauseous, vomiting they knew, z gave them the sla the either i'm assuming most every single one had to lie on the table once that day. almost as if you had to put your legs over the frame. uh, just a little later. do you were naked from the waist down from the base stone on the most and you had to be silent until you weren't allowed to scream on the edge. become a dr. cloud that gave me an injection look. he was a fat little man on as fast as he was tall, so or as little as he was fat. with rosel klein decline,
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the took a so that came out and then they took the parts of the uterus, but some were sent to different laboratories and attempt to make something scientific that was not scientific at all. he wasn't crying. i don't want the on to do not understand. he gave me an injection into the over in the overly on the show . and then it was sent back upstairs to my bed. but almost i had to lie there for 3 days and nights in pain. terrible pain, blood toggle and list the i explained to the tasks to the assistance they would take x rays make injections into the uterus,
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but i never use the word sterilization. the i did not take any of my lab assistants from clinics it to, to the outfits camp. my secretary ms. gaia only went with once to see the atmosphere. i wanted her to see how attached to me the women in block 10 was i also took my 3 year old daughter with me once they have some even paid the nazi's not to gas us. dr. cloud bags and it's paid 50 phenix a day for his guinea pig rosa, but so true says finish. i'm stuck for design. the for those kind of change. the constant of all these operations were done with the final anesthetic, not general was, the women were not told what was happening was the past few of these,
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they were suddenly num as of paralyzed from the pelvis down that they didn't know what was happening to the percentage of the score they said was reversible, that they were conscious and it must have been an immeasurable trauma as come a mission come that wanted to come pick my new home. when we were just young women that had no idea what a uterus even was a nice of us. we need to even call back some nurses couldn't explain it because they didn't know either when you meant to go. is it to see your google? as do that, so they said they would do all kinds of experiments on us, the doors and the whole point was so we couldn't have any more children. they were successful the,
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to a kind of a total. it was vicious and sadistic. she's a doctor, is expected to have at least a little compassion like this. it goes against what the medical profession is all about. and then you've been michel, ship channel talked it was a group of doctors only thinking about their careers valve. that's me. they realized it was the opportunity of a lifetime. who would i maybe it wouldn't be possible in the future. it's now or never tell that cut the during his university research canal bank had worked with sharing to develop a drug. did your natural infertility stability? it's been to proceed on top of it. oh gosh, what was the behaviors or the fallopian tubes often don't open enough for the eggs
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to implant and the uterus in this according to on teasing because i'm going to get kept her go. she went the opposite way by injecting form aldehyde into the fallopian tube in the foster, and i'm going to have to think incorrectly, that the resulting inflammation would make them close. i liked of a claim on done wonders, leslie. send the dear professor while back for samples of contrast, i have been dispatched to you. we look forward with keen interest to your comments on the suitability of the compounds for your clinical trials. german greetings, science professor, show a science doctor fund balancing. a woman was brought to me who had already had children and who was about 30 years old. i did a normal x ray using i as in a contrast i, it was injected into the uterus with
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a 30 sending me to a controller, which is commonly used for x rays. the contrast die 1st, those the uterus then enters the fallopian tubes. you can then see whether they are receptive. the, the woman i treated did not appear to us, found the injection especially painful the as for the question, would you like to have a asked me almost a year ago, namely, how long it would take to sterilize a 1000 women in this way. i can safely answer today that by
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a suitably trained physician with perhaps 10 assistance, most likely several 100, if not even a 1000. in one day the from 1929 on i received 400 rights marks per month from shifting back uh, for research purposes. in addition to these payments, i once received a large amount from shannon for an x ray machine. shaving said that they were glad to finally be able to do something personal to me. in september 1914, the gym and research society ordered an x ray machine from siemens for color club back to be delivered to him and clinics who to the he would like to use
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it and all ships the order confirmation states. we acknowledge receipts of your order, it will be delivered as soon as possible with jim and greetings, siemens, high nego, they are. the helps thoughts are starting in the fall 1944, all prisoners who were still fit for work were transferred to other concentration camps in the west coast. that's when the doctors there begin to leave the dog fish in the opposite states, and that's on the, shortly before the war ended, we had to assemble and most share and walk in lines of 5,
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say, lay, and anyone who couldn't walk, we may go, no, was shot to the surgeon this in part time we walked for 3 days and nights or once, and then i was free vice. why fi? they have getting a bad many prisoners were transferred to the west and robbers. many women arrived in robins put work hello back. also went on if for some cult in didn't app cindy on romano to there, he resumed his experiments with much younger cynthia, enroll my children. i know how to test when sterile, jose sion was possible and understood. and even before the onset of puberty for friends and these kind of a can come plow back, we tend to cute from hobbins book in early may 1945, but he was arrested by allied soldiers on june. the 8th he was taken to the
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soviet union to be tried. at the trial, while back confessed, i confirmed that i from march 1943 to january 1945 performed for sterilized ation. experiments on the prison is $280.00 of the $400.00 women was subjected to trials. 150 of these was sterilized by my methods. by looking at the facts, i realized that my activity was a crime against humanity. and i play guilty to it. in 1948 cal back was sentenced to 25 years in prison for crimes against humanity. just 7 years later, in 1955, he was among the 1st prisoners of war to be brought back from the soviet union as
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part of the automobile gun in prison, their exchange agreement but voice as a broad, oppose the release of such criminals. and i'll switch the volume to recognize card travel back in a tv interview when he announced it is an indescribable feeling to be home. again, i feel reborn. the doctor was confident he could resume his medical practice. quick a. i'm placed an ad in the queue. news pay the urgent professor called cloud bag and the required several capable female type lists. meanwhile, the small jewish community in gemini, was seeking justice and demanded an investigation into callback's crimes at auschwitz. they denounced him almost daily. new witnesses came forward until the investigation was finally opened. he was arrested in 1955
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that he had confessed his crimes in the soviet court. he now denied them. i swear under oath, i have never killed a person. i have not sterilized thousands of women. i have never committed atrocities or cruelties towards women or tortured them, but only helped and saved them. the only damage these women may have his info to the the hell back. now back died in 1957 before the trial began. and attorneys, i'm which was of course a bitter pill for the surviving victims leaving an offer for these. i'm fuss, vish this is our ends on for for they needed a trial to learn what had been done to them. the sheriff's deputy offer is to see
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them that has a wonderful they spent the rest of their lives. not knowing what had caused their medical problems, the fusion duff when he trials like that, allow medical expert is to investigate this team. but the victim is for the night. this opportunity is because the whole and us have in 5 yet no doctor from block 10 was ultimately held accountable the, the exact number of women who were tortured and died in block 10 was never determined. the suffering went unpunished. neither sharing no siemens will prosecute. it all those seam and supplied the x ray machine took a while back. no representative was available for an on camera in to be an e mail from the company states. the siemens, historical institute cannot accommodate your request for
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a personal statement because the review of the archive shows that unfortunately, no material is available that we don't send your questions with 70 the, in a telephone interview. siemens officials said that just as a comma cannot be held responsible for accidents involving its cause. siemens cannot be held responsible for crimes committed with its device is the sharing which is part of the bias pharmacy. as a group to this day reads large profits from the results of cell box research. the some physical names that he developed are available world wide and useful in fertility treatments attend to reassignment surgery. by far, the most common is in the birth control pill of which comp, now back,
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is considered the real father the today by a uses the slogan, science for the best and nice to high, nice it's scientific efforts. but the company sees no link to tell that's crimes. as i'll show you the despise intensive tools. no by a representative would appear on camera. instead, they wrote the plow the x laser experiments for him, not in our sweets and 19431944 had nothing to do with his previous home and research by 1940 the previous scientific interaction between cloud back and sharing had seen him shoot the feeling that they are complicit not to the extent of the murders or the doctors unit, but they helped them from the background corner. they made these crimes possible should because without these companies that being without their research finds
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their support and the ability to later sell products resulting from the research. these crimes might never have been committed to a position to gauge with festivals. i keep missing. oh, how can i reconcile experiment results that may benefit us for now, but which have been obtained under such completely indisputable, impossible transgressive ethical conditions because of the survivors have said that they want this to be used for the benefit of humanity. but they also to wish the victims of paid for these results with their lives and health problems been named and honored to the bad. so she has a full web to the duty to finally tell the truth is in my eyes, the least that should be done. the women who are tortured and murdered, the truth must come out. they cannot live forever. they cannot the
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that's know me. when she was little know, know me that's, you know, on yes i was in my restaurant in mine or less the last you live, very happy baby, very happy. and i was happy. you have this phone here in your hands diploma that talk to me. said to me, you're lucky. she looks like you she was a young woman and she wanted to, you know, help in the establishment of israel and believes in it. she was a zionist, but after the war it was because she met you who the angle. she basically told me that he married her and knowing that she couldn't have children are thinking, you know, she thought she couldn't up children because she had been experimented on. and then it turned out that he was the one who couldn't to the children. he was darrell so um, my mom wanted very much to have
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a child the one with the doctor. so if you know you have a good ovary, you can have a child. why don't you have our official insemination? and there were 3 doctors in the small house that they converted to a hospital. you know, she's the one who's going to be the father. and they said either in one of us 3 and she said, no, i'm not going to have that. i'm going to pick the father as she did. so my mother, do you have this cafe renee and was very, very happy with that. so she was just at the cafe and my father walked in. and then she thought, well, he's good looking. you know, here he might make, she might be a good prospect. and so she said she asked him if he would help her have
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a child and no strings attached. they went to a field under the eucalyptus trees at the and then she really she can see right away which was amazing. and then he came back 3 weeks later and he said, well, do you want to try this again? you want to see. so we try it and make sure. and she said no, i think i'm good. and she was i can't believe that she got pregnant right away. the i think my mother was a very courageous woman who made rules and she was lucky that she's not pregnant. there's no guarantees, but she did and he did and when and she did
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