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we arrived at a transit camp investigoar, but we didn't stay there. they then put us into a freight cars and we were transported to ouch that the germans came and asked if we were married. i was, but i didn't know what to say. and then i admit,
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it said i was married. i had to step aside the others were immediately guessed, but we didn't know that we finally came to a bearing of women. oh, with shaved, has the dental. and then we came to the testing a lot of the list. we'd quickly realized what was in store as close the
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they were gruesome, painful treatments. basically, the intense pain erased all feeling the show back now back could have just been please entered his research card, but he thought he should be in the front row after my name is professor called cloud bag. i performed forced sterilizations from march 1943 to january, 1945. i subjected 280 women to trials. a 150 was sterilized. according to my method, the in 1955 tons. you're kind of an odd no,
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a negotiated the return of 10000 german prisoners of war from soviet captivity, causing a sensation in the young federal republic of germany. the gynecologist cartel bag was among those freed. he soon became the subject of news reports. p to hope to stalls and meet with the new republic. but the central council of twos in germany fall charges against him in november 1955 of conducting medical trials on numerous female prisoners in l shreds. trials that lead to serious health consequences and even death. many victims could no longer be questioned. others would to a shame to speak out the women who did testify was subjected to degrading procedures to medicaid verify based
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statements the gym and quotes down today results. professor cal back had been luminary and his speech callback is kind of cut out that made medical history in reproduction, research that took very well with nazi id, ology and politics, teacher 9. and that a neighbor simple to perform these experiments announcements which do you need to hide? these are 1st, there's a few and just hop for he enjoyed significant advantages. i gained a lot of personal privileges for the price of becoming a criminal. simple question. it's about the sugar bowl in the air. i was born on january 7th and 1921 on the
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phone with the 1st house in the street with the telephone and telephone and house event because i was about to be born on. while my father was a merchant with the money for a telephone. so it was my mother had 3 children, men, and what i can just see. yeah. that was born in warsaw and was very young. when i came to brussels, says the my parents migrated from eastern europe. we were a very, very happy family citizen. and suddenly i had a very good childhood and thought we were very close back then. i
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was born in 1898 in football and is holding and i started school in keel when i was 6 years old. i graduated in november 1916 and was drafted the next day the i began university after i was freed as a p o w. i studied to send in queue tongue book in cods, the my dissertation dealt with desk by embolism and was recognized as very good scientific work. the
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maybe we lived in a very small department before the war in the 19th district, a working class area parents. my mother was in the resistance but still took care of me to proceed until she could no longer do both the state back then there was an organization that looked after children and placed them with families. it keep the series on the phone while they send me the big process. thanks to them. i live sometimes here, sometimes there. whenever it became too dangerous, they took me further away. in the end, i lived in a small village near shuttle to be called mos on pal where i stayed until the end of the war. i grew up in hiding
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me. oh, well i met my wife when she was 19 she was brought to the women's hospital with tuberculosis related ovarian swelling on both sides. at the end of her treatment, she told me she 1st hated me, then locked me. and one day knew that if she ever gave herself to a man, it would be me. they married 5 years later. but since his wife was in photo plow back began an affair with his secretary, is the guy. she gave beth to 2 children and eventually lived with a cow backs and
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a 3 way relationship. my research during that period was very significant. i studied female hormones and demonstration cycle. i published a projected in test that could confirm fatality. in keeping with scientific practice, the test was called the cloud back test. callback is a monday it's, it's kind of slow that certainly made medical history with this reproductive research with the share and company, i'll bite them to somebody to for my share, think those were exciting use i build the foundation for producing synthetic estrogen and projects to run together with sharing call about the
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whole school. as course to yes, hitler was already in power. not ma'am google, after my birthday in january, i had to go back to school to look to minnesota and the teacher told me to sit down and not talk to anyone him on flush with me month, a double. hitler was already having an impact and there were fewer kids in the class, but this was old us an attempt to meet me on my end integrated with me after i finished the school into shuler on easter full stop. on the hudson, she found an apartment for us in the netherlands. well, we'll come in hold on a little minute. on may 10th, 1940 in germany invaded the netherlands and the luxembourg belgium and france the
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entire west. on the same day a week since the scene of the people didn't realize them what a danger hitler paused to go to google, of course, but we have been dealing with it since 1933 don't going to to because we were hosting german refugees don't like to do that in spanish. refugees after 1936. yeah . really, really serious, but you don't go to the resistance didn't start from in 1940. went to belgium, wasn't dated or something out of a study. 1933 to to dish a. d. me the simple, the c s is there was a raid and a ton of all the jewish men and the oh, so we heard terrible screens from our neighbor's yard
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i had been researching facility and in facilities since 1925. i started with the assumption that there wasn't yet a non surgical infertility treatment or sterilization method. the professor kyle back is considered one of the most important researchers in the field of a very in hormones most the professor kyle bags. scientific research has been carried out in close cooperation with researchers from our central laboratory as it might not be just
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a few. and he was one of the many gynecologist album who was talented in recognizing the situation and making discoveries and being in the right place at the right time. missing authentic problems are to came into the chemical industry support certainly played a role in what he developed for putting my successes were widely recognized and also rewarded in the form of hands and fees from sharing the wall was the only reason i didn't make it to a university at is the money, certainly made a career for himself and he terminated to medical directors, but he had even greater admissions to on him. i had heard of my plans. i was summoned to 1000000000 on march 22, 1940 for a private talk with him. in the end, i told him about my problem of non surgical sterilization which i had been working
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on for 15 years. i came to ask me if my clinics were sufficiently equipped with research facilities if not. ready he would set them up for me to test and password is this suited him holler. and the more of an i elation that the nazis were planning because for new students and carrying out in eastern europe, tom bush. true on types fill without trying to submit your decision. i would like to suggest that the necessary experiments, as well as facilities be carried out in the ocean. it's concentration can hit the your very respectful professor, cloud bag, the ocean osh. it's, i'm calm when i arrived at our states,
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the come on down to is not even 30 years old. in a black, uniform and kapco on the chevy was looking for women who pops up the phone else, google shop destination. i didn't realize it at the time and about me, but my husband said he'd never seen me again or the shop cuz i told him to keep his chin up and called not give up your permission or he just shook his head a month. no, no. and send me on the phone is h u, we didn't know where we were, so we have no idea of what would happen to us. so what struck us was the terrible stench, not a single tree, not a single bird. complete silence through the serial school place the end of today. so we all got a number on our arms. and from there we were only numbers.
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and then we were put in the testing blocks. the, the cookie to look is log tens. main purpose was a secondary genocide, or in other words, killing the unborn me showed will not get the so there would be no more undesirable races to us. lloyd kindly up it will become a cloud on the news. we got close that weren't ours. the launch club alone go, some of them were strive to prison clothes, a one missional for you the instructions. i was already very fin by then, so they fit me own as well. i was glad that i found a dress rather than prison clothes. let's for, i'm stuck, i just left don't be someone,
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please don't look juice. and we went into block 10. we moved to put, we were taken to the 1st floor and shown the bats tv. i don't know to know. the younger women climbed up to the top tongues. it appears that she and those were $35.00 or 40, took the lower beds, silver, c o, but we each had our own bed. a mattress with a little straw and a blanket. yes, a 2. a mishawaka event and yeah, and do you do it? and then we weighs has worked on the folder go from. i was called the info every day 10 women were called by their numbers or no more. so i was number 60 to 500 in one of those. usually a, i don't know if there's a special call came one day drobek ash was see we were standing and rows of 5 seat you and call back chose those of us. he wanted to to easy, but daily, she only wasn't terrifying. he, he was short and styled with the to roll in how to,
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why the stall things and heavy walking shoes. did the blown the goals for sure the, the move done, not at all how you imagine an assessment and various cisco, the solution, the machine. yeah. the, the rooms i needed from my intended activity as well as the hygiene in facilities were on the blocks, the lower floor, the, the women were housed on the upper floor. my assistants, 4 or 5 of whom had been technical assistance, was selected from these 250 women. the
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we were told by number and the best and then excel the or some other guy injected something into our vagina and i say now. and then he said, no more children die, making the the shameless uniqueness. yeah. i had no idea. you know, i was in perfect health or fee should i've never seen an x ray machine before. so in a visa me and i remember exactly what it was like, assistance being a huge machine with 2 frames with wouldn't blogs,
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you don't like to be stood between the 2 racks with one wouldn't block in front and one in the back of a cube. don't to kill backs if i was in law, i little birds, non surgical sterilization was only one method. the stride is test list. assess dr. hoss 2 months also experimented with x ray radiation at the same time, most time i don't really premier sort of attribute the cheapest for the 1st ones. i went very quickly. i was the 2nd to supercede it. so i did, i didn't notice anything bad. you just a little redness unless you need it should nearly a pretty tough a c field. the 1st woman showed nothing at all to. that was, you know, but it started to take longer and longer. when i see the 3rd woman had visible
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marks, the 4th of even more than the last ones were doubled over in severe pain and nauseous, vomiting they knew, z gave them the sla the either i'm assuming most every single one had to lie on the table. once that day, almost as if you had to put your legs over the frame. the still illegal. do you were naked from the waist down from the base stone on the most and you had to be silent until you weren't allowed to scream on the edge become a dr. cloud that gave me an injection look. he was a fat little man on as fast as he was tall, so or as little as he was fat. with rosel, klein will take the
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tickets to the king mattress. then they took the parts of the uterus. some were sent to different laboratories and attempt to make something scientific that was not scientific at all. he wasn't crime. and on monday you on to del, hot, understood, he gave me an injection into the over in the overly on the show. and then there was sent back upstairs to my bed, but almost i had to lie there for 3 days and nights in pain. terrible pain, but toggle and list the i explained the tasks to the assistance they would take x rays make injections into the uterus. but i never use the word sterilization. the
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i did not take any of my lab assistants from clinics to to, to the hours for it's can my secretary ms guy i only went with once to see the atmosphere. i wanted her to see how attached to me the women in block 10 was the i also took my 3 year old daughter with me once they have some even paid the nazis not to gas us. dr. clo bags paid 50 phenix a day for his guinea pig, but so to finish doc, for design, the, for those kind of change, the guns and of all these operations were done with the final anesthetic not general was, the women were not told what was happening was the past few of these, they were suddenly num as of paralyzed from the pelvis down that they didn't know
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what was happening to the percentage of the score. if it was reversible, that they were conscious and it must have been an immeasurable trauma and come a missing come, wanted to come pick my new home when we were just young women and had no idea what a uterus even was nice of us. when you didn't call bags and nurses couldn't explain it because they didn't know either when you meant to go. is it to see your google as days? yeah. so they said they would do all kinds of experiments on us in the door. and the whole point was, so we couldn't have any more children, they were successful the,
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to a kind of a title, it was vicious and sadistic. she's a doctor, is expected to have at least a little compassion like this. it goes against what the medical profession is all about. and then you've been, michel ship shuttled stock. it was a group of doctors only thinking about their careers valve outs. me. they realized it was the opportunity of a lifetime. who would i, maybe it wouldn't be possible in the future. it's now or never tell that cut the during his university research canal bank had worked with sharing to develop a drug that your natural infertility stability. it's been super stop, stop it. oh gosh, what was our behaviors or the fallopian tubes often don't open enough for the eggs to implant and the uterus in this, according to on teasing because i'm going to get kept her go. she went the opposite
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way by injecting form aldehyde into the fallopian tube in the 1st, and then we'll just have to think incorrectly, that the resulting inflammation would make some clothes. i liked of a claim on done wonders, leslie. send the dear professor, while back for samples of contrast, i have been dispatched to you. we look forward with keen interest to your comments on the suitability of the comp, towns for your clinical trials. german greetings, science professor, show a science doctor fund balancing. a woman was brought to me who had already had children and who was about 30 years old. i did a normal x ray using i, as in a contrast i did was injected into the uterus with a 30 sending me the candle, which is commonly used for x rays. the contrast di 1st shows the uterus,
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then enters the fallopian tubes. you can then see whether they are receptive. the, the woman i treated did not appear to us, found the injection especially painful the as for the question, would you like to have a asked me almost a year ago, namely, how long it would take to sterilize a 1000 women in this way. i can safely answer today that by a suitably trained physician with perhaps 10 assistance, most likely several 100,
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if not even a 1000. in one day the from 1929 on i received 400 right smocks per month from shelving becca for research purposes. in addition to these payments, i once received a large amount from shelving for an x ray machine shelving said that they were glad to finally be able to do something personal to me. in september 1914, the gym and research society ordered an x ray machine from siemens for color cloud back to be delivered to him and clinics who to the he would like to use it and all shirts the order confirmation states. we acknowledge receipts of your
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order. it will be delivered as soon as possible with jim and greetings, siemens, honey. gov. the. okay. the taps lots are starting in the fall. 1944, all prisoners who were still fit for work were transferred to other concentration camps in the west or get off. that's when the doctors there begin to leave the doctor, she in the opposite states. and that's on the shortly before the war ended. we had to assemble and most share and walk in lines of 5 say lay, and anyone who couldn't walk,
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we may know was shot to the surgeon this in part time we walked for 3 days and nights or once, and then i was free by fly and a half playing a babbling many prisoners were transferred to the west office. many women arrived in robins place for a cloud back, also went on if for some calls and didn't app, cynthia unvil not to there, he resumed his experiments with much younger send to you, enroll my children. i know how to test when sterilization was possible and understood and even before the onset of puberty funds and these type of a can come plow back. we tend to cute from hobbins book in early may 1945. but he was arrested by allied soldiers on june. the 8th he was taken to the soviet union to be tried at the trial,
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while back confessed i confirmed that i from march 1943 to january 1945. performed for sterilize ation experiments on the prison as 280 of the 400 women was subjected to trials. 150 of these was sterilized by my methods. by looking at the facts, i realized that my activity was a crime against humanity. and i plead guilty to it. in 1948 cal back was sentenced to 25 years in prison for crimes against humanity. just 7 years later, in 1955, he was among the 1st prisoners of war to be brought back from the soviet union as part of the automobile gunning prison. their exchange agreement but voice as
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a broad, oppose the release of such criminals. and i'll shoot which device to recognize college all about in a tv interview when he announced it is an indescribable feeling to be home. again, i feel reborn. the doctor was confident he could resume his medical practice quickly and placed an ad in the queue newspaper. urgent professor, called cloud back empty, requires several capable female type best. meanwhile, the small jewish community in gemini, was seeking justice and demanded an investigation into cloud ex crimes at auschwitz . they denounced him almost daily, new witnesses came forward until an investigation was finally opened. he was arrested in 1950 fines that he had confessed his crimes and the soviet court. he
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now denied them. i swear, under oath, i have never killed a person. i have not sterilized thousands of women. i have never committed atrocities or cruelties towards women or tortured them, but only helped and saved them. the only damage these women may have is in for 2 the the hell back and now back died in 1957 before the trial began. and attorneys, i'm which was of course, a bitter pill for the surviving victims, leaving an offer for these. i'm fuss, vish this is our ends on for 5, i needed a trial to learn what had been done to them. the sheriff's deputy alpha is dusty beyond that has a wonderful they spent the rest of their lives. not knowing what had caused their
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medical problems. the fusion dolphin, he trials like that, allow medical experts to investigate this team. but the victim is for the night, this opportunity is if it's because a whole and us have in 5 yet no doctor from block 10 was ultimately held accountable. the, the exact number of women who were tortured and died in block 10 was never determined. the suffering went on punished. neither sharing no siemens were prosecuted. although simon supplied the x ray machine to fall back, no representative was available for an on camera in to be an e mail from the company states. the siemens, historical institute cannot accommodate your request for a personal statement because the review of the archive shows that unfortunately,
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no material is available that we don't send your questions with 17, the, in a telephone interview. siemens officials said that just as a comma cannot be held responsible for accidents involving its cause. siemens cannot be held responsible for crimes committed with its device is the sharing which is positive to bias homeless use the co group to this day reach launch profits from the results of self ex, research the some physical names that he developed are available world wide and useful infertility treatments and tend to reassignment surgery by far, the most common is in the birth control pill of which comp now back is considered to we'll father the
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today by a uses the slogan, science for the best and nice to high, nice. it's scientific efforts. but the company sees no links to tell that's crimes . as i'll show you the despise intensive tools. no by a representative would appear on camera. instead they wrote that plow that's laser experiments for him, not in auschwitz, and 19431944. had nothing to do with his previous home and research. by 1940 the previous scientific into action between pla, back and sharing, had seen him shoot a feeling that they are complicit. not to the extent of the murders or the doctors unit, but they helped them from the background corner. they made these crimes possible shit because without these companies with that being without their research bonds, their support and the ability to later sell products resulting from the research.
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these crimes might never have been committed to a position to gauge meant for source. i keep this and how can i reconcile experiment results that may benefit us fairly, but which have been obtained under such completely indisputable, impossible transgressive ethical conditions. because of the survivors have said that they want this to be used for the benefit of humanity. but they also to wish the victims of paid for these results with their lives and health problems been named and honored to the bad. so she has a full web to the duty to finally tell the truth is in my eyes, the least that should be done for the women who are tortured and murdered easily because of the truth must come out. they cannot live forever. they cannot the, that's know me. when she was little know, know me that's, you know,
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on yes i was in my restaurant in mine or less the last you live, very happy baby. very happy. and i was happy. you have this phone here in your hands. the woman that looked for me said to me, you're lucky. she looks like you she was a young woman and she wanted to, you know, help in the establishment of israel and believes in it. she was a zionist, but after the war it was because she met you who the angle. she basically told me that he married her and knowing that she couldn't have children are thinking, you know, she thought she couldn't up children because she had been experimented on. and then it turned out that he was the one who couldn't to the children. he was darrell so um, my mom wanted very much to have a child. the
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one of the doctor said, you know, you have a good ovary, you can have a child. why don't you have our official insemination? and there were 3 doctors in the small house that they converted to a hospital. you know, she's the one who's going to be the father. and they said either in one of us 3 and she said, no, i'm not going to have that. i'm going to pick the father as she did. so my mother, you have this cafe renee and was very, very happy with that. so she was just at the cafe and my father walked in. and then she thought, well, he's good looking. you know, you might make, you might be a good prospect. and so she said she asked him if he would help her have a child and no strings attached. they went to
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a field under the eucalyptus trees. and then she really she can see right away. which was amazing. and then he came back 3 weeks later and he said, well, do you want to try this again? you want to see show we try and make sure. and she said, no, i think i'm good. and she was, i can't believe that she got pregnant right away. the, i think my mother was a very courageous woman who made rules. and she was looking at, she's not pregnant. there's no guarantees, but she did. and he did. and when and she did the,
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