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in 2 weeks signing cutoffs and incredible 5 races before the end of the season, we're going to end it there. but coming up next hour, documentary serious, tell us the stories of ash with survivors who were subjected to horrific medical experiments. there's more news on dw com, of course, and we'll see you at the beginning of the next down. you'll see about the media that goes in the media may global. google. i've got to be done by get, i will stop into that and i'll give you the order. would you, are you able to order that? i'm jo, media dog, currently more people than the world wide in search of a did you have you ever used them in, at the accounting method of doing it like godaddy? how do you find out about on the story in from icons? the
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we arrived at a transit camp investigoar, but we didn't stay there. they then put us into a freight cars. and we were transported to alphabets. the germans came and asked if we were married. i was, but i didn't know what to say,
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and then i admitted that i was married. i had to step aside. the others were immediately guessed, but we didn't know that we finally came to a beric of women. oh, with shaved, has the dental. and then we came to the testing a lot of the list, we'd quickly realized what was in store as close the
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they would gruesome, painful treatments. basically the intense pain erased all feeling the show back. now that could have just been please treat, entered his research card, but he thought he should be in the front row after the the my name is professor called cloud bag. i performed forced sterilizations from march 1943 to january, 1945. i subjected 280 women to trials, a 150 was sterilized. according to my method, the in 1955 tons to convert. odd no. i negotiated the return of 10000 german prisoners
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of war from sylvia of captivity, causing a sensation in the young federal republic of germany. the gynecologist co tell bag was among those freed. he soon became the subject of news reports p to hope to stars and meet with the new republic. but the central council of twos in germany fall charges against him in november 1955 of conducting medical trials on numerous female prisoners in auschwitz. charles, that lead to serious health consequences and even death. many victims could no longer be questioned. others would to a shame to speak out the women who did testify was subjected to degrading procedures to medicaid verify their
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statements. german quotes down to a results. professor cal back had been a luminary in his field. the call back is it kind of cut out that made medical history in reproduction, research that fit very well with not see ideology and politics, teacher 9, and that in the ableton to perform these experiments. and now since it's beginning to heights, these are, 1st of all, there's a few and just hop for he enjoyed significant advantages. i gained a lot of personal privileges for the price of becoming a criminal. simple question. it's about the sugar bowl. i was born on january 7th,
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1921 on the phone with the 1st house in the street with the telephone and telephone and house because i was about to be born on. while my father was a merchant with the money for a telephone, so it was my mother had 3 children mine and what i can just you. yeah. that was born in warsaw and was very young. when i came to brussels, the my parents migrated from eastern europe. we were a very, very happy family. citizen. and suddenly i had a very good childhood and thought we were very close back then. i
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was born in 1898 in vip of austin, installing, and i started school in keel when i was 6 years old. i graduated in november 1916 and was drafted the next day the i began university after i was freed as a p o w. i stuck the medicine and keels humbug and cods. my dissertation dealt with best buy embolism and was recognized as very good scientific work. the
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we lived in a very small apartment before the war in the 19th district, a working class area parents. my mother was in the resistance but still took care of me to proceed until she could no longer do both the state back then there was an organization that looked after children and placed them with families. it keep that series on the phone on the big cross that thanks to them. i live sometimes here, sometimes there. whenever it became too dangerous, they took me further away. in the end, i lived in a small village near shuttle to be called mall some town. where i stayed until the end of the war. i grew up in hiding
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me good. well, well, i met my wife when she was 19 she was brought to the women's hospital to which tuberculosis related or very and swelling on both sides. at the end of her treatment, she told me she 1st hated me, then locked me. and one day knew that if she ever gave herself to a man, it wouldn't be me. they married 5 years later. but since his wife was in photo, while back began an affair with his secretary, is the guy. she gave beth to 2 children and eventually lived with
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a cow backs and the 3 way relationships. my research during that period was very significant. i studied female hormones and demonstration cycle i published protested in test that could confirm fatality. in keeping with scientific practice, the test was called the cloud back test. callback is a monday it's, it's kind of slow that certainly made medical history or so what does reproductive research thing is with the share and company all by somebody to for my she i think those were exciting use i build the foundation for producing synthetic estrogen and for just to run together with sharing call about the
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of this course. yes, hitler was already in power. now ma'am, google after my birthday in january most, i had to go back to school to make sure look and the teacher told me to sit down and not talk to anyone him on. plus with me month, the double hitler was already having an impact and there were fewer kids in the class. but this was old us an attempt. and with me on my and emigrated with me after i finished school into shuler on easter full stop. on the hudson, she found an apartment for us in the netherlands. well, we'll come in hold on a minute, on may 10th, 1940 to germany invaded the netherlands and the luxembourg belgium and france,
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the entire west. on the same data, regency casino had been researching facility and infertility since 1925. i started with the assumption that there wasn't yet a non surgical infertility, treatment or sterilization method. the professor callback is considered one of the most important researchers in the field of a very in hormones most the professor callbacks scientific research has been carried out in close cooperation with researchers from our central laboratory. it might not be just a few,
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and he was one of the many kind of call the general who was talented in recognizing a situation and making discoveries and my being in the right place at the right time listing. authentic problem 50 team is the chemical industry support certainly played a role in what he developed for putting my successes were widely recognized and also rewarded enough on the tents and seas from sharing the wall was the only reason i didn't make it to a university at schema certainly made a career for himself and even related to medical directors, but he had even great around nations to on him. i had heard of my plans. i was summoned to 1000000000 on march 22, 1940 for a private tulip with him. in the end, i told him about my problem of non surgical sterilization which i had been working
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on for 15 years. he miller asked me if my clinics was sufficiently equipped with research facilities. ready if not. ready he would set them up for me to test and password is this suited him holler. and the more of a ne alicia, that the nazis were planning because for new students carrying out in eastern europe, tom bush, true on types crew home without trying to supercede your decision. i would like to suggest that the necessary experiments, as well as facilities be carried out in the i'll shoot it's concentration, can hit the your very respectful professor, cloud bag, the ocean osh. it's, i'm com. when i arrived at our states,
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the come on down to is not even 30 years old in a black uniform and kept her on zillow. she was looking for women who pops up the phone else. google shopped us much. i didn't realize that at the time and about me, but my husband said he'd never seen me again or the shop cause i told him to keep his chin up and called not give up your permission or he just shook his head him off. no, no. and send me home phone is h u, we didn't know where we were. so we had no idea what, what happened to us. it was okay for me. so what struck us was the terrible stench, not a single tree, not a single bird, complete silence through the serial school place. and we all got a number on our arms. and from there we were only numbers.
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and then we were put in the testing blocks. the low, the equally to look is love tens. main purpose was a secondary genocide or in other words killing the unborn, me short little lot kit the so there would be no more undesirable races to us. light came on it that will become a cloud on the news. we got close that weren't hours for the month. sure. glad to go. some of them were strive to prison clothes of one missional for you the instructions. i was already very fin by then. so they fit me down as well. i was glad that i found a dress rather than prison clothes that for i'm stuck. i just left to don't be
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somewhere between these and we went into block 10. we moved to a point, we were taken to the 1st floor and shown the beds, tv. i don't know to lift. the younger women climbed up to the top. com and it was a sheet, and those were 35 or 40. took the lower bands, silver c, o, but we each had our own bed. a mattress with a little straw and a blanket. yes, the previous 2. 8. miss shaka? yvette and yeah, and do you do it? and then we way just want the phone to go from i was called same phone every day. 10 women were called by their numbers or no more. sure i was numbers 60 to 500 in one of those. usually a, i don't know if it's a special call came one day drobek ash was see we were standing in rows of 552 in cloud bag. chose those of us. he wanted to do easy, but daily. she only wasn't terrifying. he, he was short and styled with
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a to roll and had to white stockings and heavy walking shoes. did the loan, the goal should show the demo, then not at all how you imagine then assess man via do you a cisco the solution, the machine. yeah, the, the rooms i needed from my intended activity as well as the hygiene in facilities were on the blocks, the lower floor, the, the women warehouse don't the upper floor. my assistants, 4 or 5 of whom had been technical assistance, was selected from these 250 women. the
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we were told by number and the best. and then excel the or some other guy injected something the into our vagina is fast now. and then he said, no more children kindly came to the shameless uniqueness. yeah, i had no idea and that the i was in perfect health or fee should i've never seen an x ray machine before. so in a visual mid and i remember exactly what it was like, it's just being
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a huge machine with 2 frames with wooden blocks. google don't like to be stored between the 2 racks with one wouldn't block in front and one in the back of a acute don't to kill backs if i was in small i low birds. non surgical sterilization was only one method. the stride is test and list. assess dr. hall's 2 months also experimented with x ray radiation at the same time, most time i don't really premier, for the tribute, is just cheapest for the 1st ones. i went very quickly. i was the 2nd to, to some fussy a. so to do, i didn't notice anything bad. just a little redness unless you need it should nearly a pretty tough move. a c field. the 1st woman showed nothing at all to. that was in the but it started to take longer and longer. when i see the 3rd woman had visible marks,
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the 4th even more than the last ones were doubled over in severe pain and nauseous, vomiting the new z gave them the sla the you to. i'm assuming that most every single one had to lie on the table once that day. most of if you had to put your legs over the frame, the, the still a label. do you were naked from the waist down from the base stone on the most and you had to be silent until you weren't allowed to scream on the edge become a dr. cloud that gave me an injection look he was a fat little man. um, as fat as he was tall, so or as little as he was fat with rosell klein, you know, take the,
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took a so it came out and then they took the parts of the uterus, but some were sent to different laboratories and attempt to make something scientific that was not scientific at all, he wasn't crying. i don't want that on to do not understand. he gave me an injection into the over in the overly on the show. and then it was sent back upstairs to my bed, but almost i had to lie there for 3 days and nights and pain, terrible pains, but toggle and list the i explained the tasks to the assistance they would take x rays make injections into the uterus. but i never use the word sterilization. the
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i did not take any of my lab assistants from clinics to to, to the outfits kept my secretary miss gaia. only with, with once to see the atmosphere. i wanted her to see how attached to me, the women in block 10 was the i also took my 3 year old daughter with me once they have some not even paid the nazi's not to gas us. dr. cloud bags and it's paid 50 phenix a day for his guinea pig, but so says finish. i'm stuck for design the or so those kind of change the guns and of all these operations were done with the final anesthetic not general was the women were not told what was happening was the past few of these, they were suddenly known as of paralyzed from the pelvis down,
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that they didn't know what was happening to the percentage of the score they said was reversible, that they were conscious and it must have been an immeasurable trauma as come a mission come that wanted to come pick my new home when we were just young women that had no idea what a uterus even was a nice of us, as we just did the even callbacks. the nurses couldn't explain it because they didn't know either when you went to go. is it to see your google as days? yeah, so they said they would do all kinds of experiments on us and we're doing that. and the whole point was, so we couldn't have any more children. they were successful the,
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to a cabinet, or it was vicious and sadistic. she's a doctor is expected to have at least a little compassion like this. it goes against what the medical profession is all about. and then you've been mentorship shuttled. so it was a group of doctors only thinking about their careers valve. i mean, they realized it was the opportunity of a lifetime. who would i, maybe it wouldn't be possible in the future. it's now or never tell that cut to during his university research canal bank had worked with sharing to develop a drug that your natural infertility stability. it's been super stuff, metal gunshot was our behaviors or the fallopian tubes often don't open enough for the able to implant and the uterus in this, according to decent, because i'm going to,
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i'm gonna kept her go. she went the opposite way by injecting formaldehyde into the fallopian tube to into forced and then we'll just have to think incorrectly that the resulting inflammation would make them close. the i like of a claim on done wonderfully send the dear professor sell back for samples of contrast done have been dispatched to you. we look forward with keen interest to your comments on the suitability of the comp, towns for your clinical trials. german greetings, science professor, show a signed dr. phone building. a woman was brought to me who had already had children, and who was about 30 years old. i did a normal x ray using i as in a contrast i, it was injected into the uterus with a 30 sending me to a candle, which is commonly used for x rays. the contrast di 1st fills the uterus,
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then enters the fallopian chips. you can then see whether they are receptive. the, the woman i treated did not appear to us, found the injection especially painful the as to the question, would you like to have a asked me almost a year ago, namely how long it would take to sterilize a 1000 women in this way. i can safely answer today that by a suitably trained physician with perhaps 10 assistance, most likely several 100,
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if not even a 1000. in one day from 1929 on i received 400 rights smocks per month from shifting baca for research purposes. in addition to these payments, i once received a large amount from shaving for an x ray machine. shaving said that they were glad to finally be able to do something personal to me. in september 1914, the german research society ordered an x ray machine from siemens for color club back to be delivered to him and clinics who to the he would like to use it and all ships the order confirmation states. we acknowledge receipts of your
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order. it will be delivered as soon as possible with jim and greetings. siemens honey. go back in the haps nonsense. starting in the fall. 1944. all prisoners who were still fit for work were transferred to other concentration camps in the west, on or off. that's when the doctors there begin to leave the dog. so you should be in opposite dates. and that's on the, shortly before the war ended, we had to assemble and most share and walk in lines of 5 say lay. and anyone who couldn't walk,
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we may know was shot to the, the surgeon this in part time we walked for 3 days and nights or one soon. and then i was free by fly and a half getting a bad many prisoners were transferred to the west and robbers. many women arrived involved and split for a cloud back also went in for some cult and didn't app cindy on romano to there. he resumed his experiments with much younger cynthia, enroll my children. i know how to test once durable zation was possible and understood. and even before the onset of puberty for friends and these kind of a can come plow back. we tend to cute from hobbins book in early may 1945, but he was arrested by allied soldiers on june. the 8th he was taken to the soviet union to be tried. at the trial trial back confessed.
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i confirmed that i from march 1943 to january 1945. performed for sterilize ation experiments on the prison as 280 of the 400 women was subjected to trials. 150 of these was sterilized by my methods. by looking at the facts, i realized that my activity was a crime against humanity. and i plead guilty to it. in 1948 cal back was sentenced to 25 years in prison for crimes against humanity. just 7 years later, in 1955, he was among the 1st prisoners of war to be brought back from the soviet union. as part of the automobile gunning prisoner exchange agreement, but voice as a broad,
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oppose the release of such criminals. and i'll shoot with the volume to recognize college all about in a tv interview when he announced it is an indescribable feeling to be home. again. i feel reborn. the doctor was confident he could resume his medical practice quickly and placed an ad in the queue. news pay the urgent professor called cloud back empty, requires several capable female typists. meanwhile, the small jewish community in germany was seeking justice and demanded an investigation into canal backs. crimes at auschwitz, they denounced him almost daily. new witnesses came forward until the investigation was finally opened. he was arrested in 1955 that he had confessed his crimes in the soviet court. he now denied them. i
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swear, under oath, i have never killed a person. i have not sterilized thousands of women. i have never committed atrocities or cruelties towards women or tortured them, but only helped and saved them. the only damage these women may have his info to it the. the hell back. now back died in 1957 han before the trial began, and attorneys, and which was of course, a bitter pill for the surviving victims, leaving an offer for these. i'm foss this, this is our ends on for, for they needed a trial to learn what had been done to them. the sheriff's deputy offer is dusty beyond that has a wonderful day spent the rest of their lives. not knowing what had caused their
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medical problems in the food, in a tough when he trials, likes out, allow medical experts to investigate this team. but the victim is for the night this opportunity as if it's because a whole and us have in 5 yet. no doctor from block 10 was ultimately held accountable. the the exact number of women who were tortured and died in block 10 was never determined. the suffering went on punished neither sharing no siemens would prosecute it. although simon supplied the x ray machine to call back, no representative was available for an on camera in to be an e mail from the company states. the siemens, historical institute cannot accommodate your request for a personal statement because the review of the archives shows that unfortunately,
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no material is available that we don't send your questions which says in the, in a telephone interview. siemens official says that just as a comic, it cannot be held responsible for accidents involving its cause. siemens cannot be held responsible for crimes committed with its device is sharing, which is positive to buy a pharmacy as a group to this day reads large profits from the results of self ex, research the some physical minds that he developed are available world wide and useful infertility treatments enter into reassignment surgery. by far the most common is in the birth control pill of which comp, while back is considered the real father the today by
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a uses the slogan, science for best and nice to highlight it's scientific efforts. but the company sees no links to tell that's crimes. as i'll show you the despise intensive tools, no by a representative would appear on camera. instead they wrote the cloud x laser experiments for him, not in our sweets and 19431944 had nothing to do with his previous homeland research. by 1940 the previous scientific into action between pla, back and sharing, have seen him shoot the feeling that they are complicit. not to the extent of the murders or the doctors unit, but they helped them from the background corner. they made these crimes possible should because without these companies with that being without their research finds their support and the ability to later sell products resulting from the research.
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these crimes might never have been committed to operation to gauge meant for source . i keep this in or how can i reconcile experiment results that may benefit us fairly, but which has been obtained under such completely indisputable, impossible transgressive ethical conditions. because of the survivors have said that they want this to be used for the benefit of humanity. but they also the wish, the victims paid for these results with their lives and health problems been named and honored to be at that she has a full web to the duty to finally tell the truth is in my eyes, the least that should be done. the women who are tortured and murdered, the truth must come out. they cannot live forever. they cannot. the, that's know me. when she was little know i know me that's, you know,
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on yes i was in my restaurants in mine or less the last. you live really happy baby, very happy. and i was happy. you have this phone here in your hands. the woman that worked for me said to me, you're lucky. she looks like you she was a young woman and she wanted to, you know, help in the establishment of israel and believed in it. she was a scientist, but after the war it was because she met you who the angle. she basically told me that he married her and knowing that she couldn't have children are thinking, you know, she thought she couldn't up children because she had been experimented on. and then it turned out that he was the one who couldn't to the children. he was darrell so um, my mom wanted very much to have a child. the
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one of the doctor said, you know, you have a good ovary, you can have a child. why don't you have our official insemination? and there were 3 doctors in the small house that they converted to a hospital. you know, she's the one who's going to be the father. and they said either in one of us 3 and she said, no, i'm not going to have that. i'm going to pick the father as she did. so my mother, you have this cafe renee and was very, very happy with that. so she was just at the cafe and my father walked in. and then she thought, well, he's good looking. you know, he might make, you might be a good prospect. and so she said she asked him if he would help her have a child and no strings attached. they went to
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a field under the eucalyptus trees at the and then she really she can see right away which was amazing. and then he came back 3 weeks later and he said, well, do you want to try this again? you want to see show we try to make sure. and she said no, i think i'm good. and she was, i can't believe that she got pregnant right away. the, i think my mother was a very courageous woman who made rules. and she was lucky and she's not pregnant. there's no guarantees, but she did and he did. and when and she did the
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