of what he does, so i'm seeing that for you will always reflect to the work you do. so yes, the could be dangerous. i really, i haven't been in this space kathy talk about slow flag level. i'm seeing that it's the only thing yourself to know that i can do that my, this is what i'm willing to do and i'm willing to take a risk. they won't. so if i have the volt by risk that we're taking by different people, i agree. i think we're making this huge mistake. okay. my, let's and people define what 10 out of them is for us. that was more about any ivy league schools. the thing though in which he now tents demo is going to be defined by your site at the end of the, the how does the, what you to lead to the progress of that. so site. so what might be done that lives in the gym? i was, i mean i married might be a different type of gen out of them enough or so what kind of generally thing would you suggest to be helping africa? i am suggesting that your journalism should be fine, but you'll be void. feel people need more drinking more to get that for them. whatever it takes to get that for them. get in for that, leaving means that you have to one back up and get it for them to get it for the is

really disagree with you. let me hear your voice, and that's my brother from the neighboring countries. i grew with you so much. i mean, it's not because i don't agree with the funds that known in john this. the him have tried to show that he takes it by the way. so i am assuming that it is what we do in front of it all the way from the news rooms into the academic. we do need some level of that comes from it doesn't matter. we do need some level of spend that. yeah. on those done that dictates that there should be a very clear line on what is on, what's his notes, for example, what will then differentiate thoughts from the publics we cover if we sound the same way, if we don't have any types of sun that i mean just imagine even with those kind of what the type of drinking water we have in the world that it would be ok to keep drinking live. what that was drunk centuries ago. i'm probably still being drunk drunk now. yeah, i mean, i guess 2 points that hold on enough. no me,

i want to come to you because let's just ground ourselves in reality here. right. so we have the tennis of generalising perfect. but even be that said that they, they shouldn't, it still becomes difficult to practice and say a country like yours. so are you allowed to color the light outside the lines then? well, um, actually i'm not really allowance, but i do, i do a rebel here. i really, i'm really on social media, so i, i, i'm working for press groups of course, but on the side i writes white, i think on my social media platform and on microsoft media platform, i am myself and i can see what ever i want. mm. interesting yeah. are you able to separate your identity as a journalist from your phone line personality? yeah, definitely lou that um. because when i see you online i'll see the agenda this. naomi. yes, you see the john the least, but i do it's a different way. when i'm going to be presenting, for example, i have to follow the rules. i just come to keep fox. that's all on my social media

platform. i comments the fact i see my minds, but it's not in a way that we've puts me in the individual situation. so you have to bring your toes between activism and journalism. right? yes, i mean the medium. yeah. but enough doesn't just make it a very dangerous situation then because we have the rules, but then we have the thing, we can break them when it's not convenient for us. so when does, society does not have struck just for us? and we say, oh, by the way, when i'm out of the news room, then i can see what i want, you have to actual. so how do i do my way in a way that did come me and get to me to cods means that you asked me some more for sizes from the gen i missed a point into the active is doesn't that make you judge jury and execution of and it doesn't, because at the end of the day, whatever everythings you produce at the end of the day to be a part of the law that will sit down when that duty gets for very i have to control many people in to do. and i did it with my own when they had the own lawyers and i loved it because as i have the test of your integrity to test false,

how own must your gen, that of them is. everybody should be given out of what you need to, to come and defend himself. this is you'll be doing. this is how you story. this is how you plan to steve. and i'm such a way. i think that should be the way out. ok through on the question is, are you on the issue of trust you might be well, meaning, and perhaps you want to talk about co dean and then your younger audiences that she always leads to was one side she's untied. governments has on type is how do you balance that out? so you buy these again by those sets of rules that don't, that mistake, that's not ethical. i mean, i think what, what needs to be me. impactful john dizzy is not always going, you know, not to be smart enough. i'm not, i'm not serious. i didn't know if i didn't 2 files. one i will never identify as well. can you tell me why? i mean, this is something that is very deeply rooted if you like. i don't like the getting the via large the wrong i find activity it distracts me when i have

to actively care about what people say. oh, i bought my methyl, let's do the essence where i kind of control me. there's no want me to control. for example, in my mind, then i have a problem. i will say that you kind of do john museum, doctors impactful. going by the book. i need to still in fact from i'm an example of that when i did call dean people with very happy lot with being changed. but guess what? that was. so people that came to see i was paid by a foreign government because i, my son's name is jeremiah. so i still got that block under way people that was to be i previous. what is the french course on these points to the fact of extremism? you will always be called them not to be which as the way you do, your journalism. that is why i refuse the because i have no business being called of fixing into the mode of activity. mm hm. and are in with spend, they don't cards 0. yes, because if i was doing the full day and for example,

my name would that be which in these agreements breeland's b, so forth. but anyway, if somebody doesn't go to do it, does it take away from the work that she did? it doesn't take away a lot of people want to spend too much, but change the site and i'm not allowed to change the y v. but i'm saying, my brother, i'm talking about the work that made my mother have to be made. my brother pop the few with their families. i have a 6 i'm, i'm going to say change came and i do. i hardly print those. i've been changed parks when opened offices, where opened into ports. port, dean leg jobs, what formats, what's a good company? very. and not set that well that's not change, then my name is not bruno. so i'd like to hear from you all based on the what we've had here today. do you still believe that these, that line between journalism and activism will have you shifted a little bit? let's see, your final thoughts naomi. i won't change my mind. i still believe that as a journalist, you need to, to speak about the facts. but you come jesse speak the fox, for example,

if there's a story happening and you know that it's not the truth, but the government, for example, he's giving a version of the, it's don't seem to need to say out loud that this is not true. so you, you, you are becoming your becoming, i'm not to somehow, you still need to follow the rules. i do agree refer you to follow the rules of don't only thing, not to be in danger, but you need to make the public in the sense that the story is not quite right. okay. let's do it from you. surely, i maintain that there is a line. and for me, what would be important is that transpired and see that we know which side you're on. if you're a journalist and you, once, you're an activist, you're jealous. whichever hot you're putting on, that's what's of a time. that is b p a to your audience. so to have a listening to you because of the media pushing it or they've done on this, you have so much power. this to me for looking at to listening to you some even how

you want to evaluate like everything and say they take it as it is. yeah. okay. almost. yeah, that's fine. yes. uh, my own point is we will keep evolving as human beings, right? so as journalist does activates, as advocates, that gary's the angle is change. what is the goal? so show whatever changes we're trying to drive. well, in looking at the next generation old, going to people who are thinking to come into journalism. i think what drives use key for us? it felt like it's appalling. like, this is like, i will see you in jail for room doesn't have seen joe, but you have to just expose the story of what you was coming in to read. you need to ask yourself, why are you tell me what the accolades of the out was? because yes, so good job. you'll be nominated for an emmy. yeah, but that's not why this is because at the end of it there's no need to have gone able to speak with. we've had done a lease, we know awards, i'm lose piece in cost. the story didn't feel in. right. so we don't know what you want to know what, what's happening, story about the floods that it doesn't speak. right? so i don't know as a young person was deciding, okay,

i like to see people in general, so i'm going to enjoy it. become a journalist. i love people don't like i'm not gonna be great on top of my face. that's what you want to do, then what you need to consider. why? yeah. what's to what extent do you need to be on this that you like the attention of the accolades or you know what i'm going to do this because of the right thing to do for myself. i is motivation being the can i call your getting it for you? good. all right, go now. so for me, i mean, what i thought i quoted me was like, let's get just i had a brother who was i might be. so that was what motivated me wasn't any of what i think the i mean was going to call. yeah. but for me, more important is the solution we need to about from the tv shows about this, the big spring. so you know, prophecy user in practice. so i want to see eddie told us on the 6 people don't, but we don't see joe ninety's older ladies don't people to engage me. they just say you're not cvc, don't know what to do. john is in the younger ones should be, i'm not supposed to be in the middle because i'm not young, but i'm not old. the ad, so i feel we should try to overcome this. shown activism is not

a bond. lord is not something that we cannot speak about. well, she says, let's be transferring. let's try to avoid putting all right in our cells, because the audience sees the proof. i've done these governments already doing that . now guys, the news is your right, an us last but not least. so am i lance? part of my jen. i live them here in the gym and i dream then that went out by rough . i know there was seamless and that coverage. and i've also learned from the b, b, z, all come apart from that they do, do code of ethics guides me as i work. so at the end of the day, i believe that we should ask ourselves the question. when we get into us, piece of that, how do i ensure that i get people don't mean so jen? again, i see you full trans. i see the youth and i want to emphasize that the advertising group, i'm all the, i'm tired of the roots in system. yeah. and they want to see a change. yeah. and if we wanted flicking partners or not, videos, congress, then we have to move towards more activism and i don't see any like we have of them

and activity on us. thank you so so much. thank you to audience. at the beginning of this debates we us a very simple question. where is the line between activism and journalism? and as one of the people here said, it's just proper chaos when you try to find the sun. thank you all to a lovely audience here. thank you. to kind of move and as usual, thanks. i the

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