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[000:00:00;00] the, this is dw news live in from berlin tonight, a growing humanitarian crisis of refugee crisis between armenian and arthur by john nearly 7000. every fortunately left the corner, calmer buck region and crossed into our meeting and trying to escape either by johnny, we will have a live report from what is looking more and more like the genesis of yet another refugee price is also coming up tonight,
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france pulling its forces out of the share of the ones that seized power in the country as welcome news of the withdrawal saying that this is a step towards the national sovereignty and a dw investigation. find the best of contamination in toxic debris for this year's earthquakes in turkey. health experts or warnings, thousands of children, are now at risk of developing lung cancer. the i bring cough to our viewers watching on cbs in the united states, into all of you around the world. welcome. tonight, armenia says that nearly 7000 refugees have crossed its border from newborn no camera box. since either by john took control of the disputed region last week. turkeys president richard,
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tying affair to one today said that either by john's offensive has perhaps opened the window to normalize and strained relations in that region. via very liter you'll home eliot had suggested a possible new land cord or that would link turkey in either by john it would pass through armenian territory in the eyes or by johnny region of not. she bought a thorny is it say that several people would be killed in within $200.00 injured in a blast at a fuel depot. in the corner of car box rescue is the medical teams rushed to the scene of the explosion near the capitol. it's not clear whether this incident is linked to what's being reported as possible refugee crisis. and meanwhile, the exodus of civilians from the corner of kara box, it continues to gather, pay tax, cash stream mouse. and the kind of boss is hundreds of ethnic armenians flee. the
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some vehicles via the skies of the recent conflicts age groups are on hand to help as families across the board and media, the mass exodus spots, my fee is for the offense, and then you as a buy jeremy room. my condition today we left, they told us either you leave or take us about johnny possible to you, not the kind of people who take up about johnny passports as a by john re took nicole know kind of best buy for us last week. the region sits within its borders, but had previously been under the control of a snake, armenian forces, or around 120000 armenians live in the mountain mist. here a tree may see a persecution if they stay that's despite as
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a by john's promised setup. wants to reintegrate them as equal citizens. space for 40000 people from kind of back has been prepared and mania. families standing by for the loved ones arrival face a new this white is north jeweler, this is yes. i'm waiting for my sister to arrive from the garden of car bar. everything she and her husband have built there. she'll leave behind. that's very bad. jane is leaving your house and starting all over again. and this is already the 2nd time rusher is providing peacekeepers to help with the evacuation. but they were consumed for the teams of thousands of people yet to leave nickel on october. the food and fuel supplies running low and fees of possible revenge attacks. but we're going to take you nail to gorse. that is
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a town near our medias. border with iser by john and journalist niel. how are he joins is from there? neal, talk us through what is happening here. we know that many are fleeing award o'connor vi, and they've arrived in the town where you are right now. are you on the, i guess the gates, the exit is at the exodus gates. ford. what is looking like a, a refugee crisis or yeah, absolutely. i mean gorgeous and major nearest major settlements in our media. and so then our media to develop our boss. it's about 30 minutes from the border there because it by talking and watching for door. and this is not the city, it's about 50000 people, but everyone coming from the corner of our book comes through here. and so we've had 7000 people already. and these are already pretty full here. and that's just a fraction of what's to come. we use here french and once they come, i mean we've got 7000 that's being reported there. they've also been reports that the entire population,
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a 120000 ethnic armenians could possibly try to leave this area. i mean, are you hearing there? i mean, absolutely. you know, as the advisor to their, their government, to the arts. like everybody said a couple days of ways that and 99.9 percent of our people when we, i think that's absolutely right. i mean, other buyers on has been, you know, not only in the 1st 4 and the 19 ninety's where he tried to exterminate them and drive them out of the territory. but otherwise i'm lost somewhere. but then for the last 9 months, at the start of these people last week, it launched an unprovoked defensive and killed, you know, hundreds of many hundreds on it. and so this was very clear to them. they have no future if they stay inside of the price on, so it's either leave now, what do you have the chance for a face? something much worse down the road under have somebody tried who what, what, what can be leads me we're, we're talking about a mass exodus of people here possibly. and the pictures we've, we've got show cars, wind up. i'm not moving. i mean,
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are people able to cross the border easily and if not, i mean, what are these thousands of people going to do as time? you know, the hours passed by, i mean, they're going to have to have, you know, basic facilities. they're going to have to have food and water. i mean, are there, is there infrastructure to provide for these people? i mean, that's a great question. what are they going to do? the slow has been slow so far because other bugs are only last about 3 is checkpoint on the watching road where, where they, they slow the flow of traffic. you know, they've got at least a t. v crews are asking people them, it doesn't make them say that a lot of the projects so nice to us and they're forced us to leave our owns. and then of course, there's no infrastructure for these people on the road whatsoever. as advisor, myself 11, any international agencies, except for a single delivery by the red cross a days ago. but still that there's no access to the advertisements. a lot of the car box. what are these people on the road? so the situation is only going to get worse and worse as otherwise,
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i'll just hold these people one window level. is it slowly got some sleep on me? yeah, yeah. and if there ethnic armenians, can the candidate simply cross the border and go to our media and make a new home. is it as simple as that? i mean, the media government has said that they have places laid out for these people for up to 40000 families which will cover, you know, these are these for that, these 120000 people. but the main part of main, the main issue right now is getting there, you know, as is there's a matter of traffic and going back about a 100 kilometers from what it was already until the board was made to the power bar to park here. and everyone tried to leave on that, and as i advise on is learning the flow into a slow trickle as they come out. and so we're good at the rate that things are going, it's going to take, you know, well, and we're going to wait for all these people who believe and that's what they're living in their cars on this, on the start of room. yeah,
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well it's definitely situation that is not looking like it's going to improve any time soon in general is neil how we're joining us tonight from course in our meeting. no, thank you. thank. it's the news here is that military rulers have welcome to decision by france to withdraw its troops from the country, the army. you may remember alst and the elected president in july and ending his years, cooperation with france. france used to be the colonial power in this year. president emanuel mack wrong france says that $1500.00 french soldiers who were stationed in this year will lead by the end of this year. after months of rising tensions and protests, new jersey, and demanding the withdrawal of french troops can celebrate. france does not recognize the cool leaders as legitimate this sort of delete the initiative,
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the only legitimate leader of new just some president does do a mix, was elected by some people that he's over here. so today he's being held hostage if after the victim of this crew is because he wasn't there on gray for phones because there's ethnic schools that thing going on. this is on this. there's a lot of political cowardice that the honda ex wife process decided to bring a think baset of several diplomats back to friends and that's all full of holes. we're putting an end to a miniature corporation with incurring the 0 with ortiz of it, because i don't want to fight terrorism anymore. like the people in the gap between me. i mean, welcome the news still. i mean, the deadline says the french minute treatments leave immediately because we don't need them. they've been saying that help us for decades, but we haven't seen any change. we want them to leave our country and go home because we are staying well that exist to do quite them by moving on behalf of all the people of new share. yeah,
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we're very proud of the departure of the french army and it's in bass through because they've provided nothing here in the share. one is a looking to at least eradicate terrorism. and terrorism is only getting worse intuitive. what are some and the tutors, and that's what the, i mean you wait until the take over by the military. honda major was a key security partner for western countries including france and the united states . the departure of french forces is likely to heighten concerns about russia's growing influence in africa. the wagner mercenary group is already active in multi where there are allies of the who died there. but with the mercenary group we can do to the watering ukraine and the withdrawal, the french forces. there are rising concerns that is low. mr. groups would make gains in the region when else of the non ukrainians who have answered the call to help in the countries more. the international legion is made up of foreign troops
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who are fighting alongside ukrainian soldiers. dw is mathias barely here. he met legionnaires who had just returned from the front lot target practice keeping skills shop while away from the frontline rest resupplied and to be to for looks ation. the international religion has been part of the ukrainian army since the beginning of russia's full scale invasion. we have just a single unit, normal units, just come forward and us and to live together with the opinions. bucks. yvonne have 2 years experience in the gym and ami came to ukraine just weeks after the war started. and then the never follow that would be a one year of again, so i and i didn't really have better things to do back home that can let's say a boring job, one of the people in the us and then scales. so come here 3 days into the war,
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the ukrainian president quoted for friends of peace and democracy to help defend this country. it was a message that had ho finished volunteer call sign corporate. it's kind of stuck with me about the europe didn't do enough. and i remember when you had the would be good for them theater. so i was like, well at least i can do that. how big was referring to the finnow soviet was the 1930 many spring dan nation's. historical experience with plenty is from more than 60 countries, have taken up arms on behalf of decree. some only stay for a few weeks on month. they fight side by side with the ukrainians, but international fight is going to leave and go home if they want to. that makes a difference, says caleb list. when you go to where you kind of a unit,
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you notice like the whole place is clean and they have a they have people who cook and just set up. and it's nice. so like when you come off mission it's, it's, it's the place is nice and spotless with the legion because the new and people like, you know, new people they and because people leave and come back they, they re make a lot of the mistakes. so you places on the, on the dirty, it's not as well organized to leave stuff behind. caleb list is from australia. he had no military experience when he joined up a year ago. but his now the platoon come on he says he was about to join the french foreign legion when russia evaded ukraine. so he changed class adventure. he says, was part of this much of ation. i want to test myself. i wanted to like, again, i want to be extreme. so i came here with the same motivation
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and basically done that. and now i just, i just do this. that's the only thing i'm really good at here away from the front. things are a bit more relaxed. the legion has been fighting under ukrainian come onto the hockey for offensive and towards boston. although hobbit has his own only half joking description of the most important contribution to the the diode, it gets wounded that when a couple of months, so the rest the keeps having you put in the headlines. so i'm giving support. i mean we, we don't intend to, to do it, but i think then it turns out to be that,
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how do you say because in fact you can have assuming they don't make that kind of impact all 3 men say they have no plans to return to normal civilian life. but daniel by minute is a professor the school of foreign service at georgetown university. he says that most overseas fighters end up as cannon fodder. and he told me about people's motivations for joining for an leech. when we think about people who are going to fight, of course, they understandably often see themselves as heroes. and the people you profiled are a good examples where someone come in with considerable military experience and some come in with none whatsoever. and many of those where they are, who have no experience, who only fight for a short time in past conflicts, they're often thrust into the breach. and as a result, end up dying and large numbers. what we've seen now when you claim that was quite
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different, where people have often been there for months or even over a year. and those remain are really in up almost darwinian sense. are skilled fighters where they have a lot of experience and are able to fight quite effectively. so the additional rush of volunteers often involves a lot of casualties, but subsequent fighters tend to be more experienced and skilled. yeah, i mean, the story we just saw, you get the impression that many are, are maybe lost souls. when they do actually go to battle, you have cautioned against the reliance on foreign fighters. why a, a foreign fighters often come with a lot of motivations that don't have much to do with the day to day struggle for, in this case the ukrainians or others involved. but sometimes they're there for a venture, and when the fighting guys down they, they still want to fight sometimes their own views and work street than those of
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local fighters. and as a result, they'll do atrocities or otherwise be more violent. the key is really integrating them in a disciplined way into the armed forces of the country and be great. it's have done that with a considerable degree of success. so some of the worst predictions people had about 4 to 5 years at the onset of the war had not come true. they are, we know that there are russian citizens in the ukrainian foreign legion. i mean, what do we know about these people? so this is often referred to as the russian volunteer group. and some of the russians fighting there are if you will, they see themselves as dissidence from the russian system. but some have so far, right tendency, some are white supremacists or do you not to use it. so it's a mix of individuals. and many of these people have actually been quite effective and doing cross border operations into russia itself,
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for obvious reasons. they can blend in very effectively, but at the same time, there was a turn, a sheet of ukraine's cause these ideologies up to the at least some of these people are quite extreme. and it lends credence to the russian propaganda that the ukrainian government is controlled by nazis. and even though that's patently false, even having a few of these individuals in high profile operations contributes to that misperception visitor daniel binding with the school of foreign service at george. so in university profess, we appreciate your time in your analysis and i thank you. thank you. within 45000 people were killed in earthquakes in turkey earlier this year. and investigation by dw is turkish and environment services has revealed that a looming health crisis could now lead to many more depths. many of the hundreds of thousands of buildings that were destroyed in the quakes contained asbestos. the
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world health organization says exposure to even low levels of this can cause lung cancer. authorities have downplay the dangers, but dw news found contamination in the city of pots it needs the cloud of dust that covers the us quite could city of hot sy in southern talkie lies another danger. asbestos, the deputy report is invited to fill out an environmental engineer to help them collect dust samples for a special dose analysis. nobody this any one who has come into contact with i is at risk of being exposed to asbestos. the journey starts from gauzy and tap 200 kilometers away from high tide, because the local airport was damaged in the us quake. 7 months afterwards, the city still resembles a was of the people that have to, i are trying the best to live a normal life,
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but the dust worries them. so i think i'll cut that off the bang costs. if deals are loans when they're training in our lungs already, we've constantly feel the need to fax over physical and mental health. this is one of the reasons we took dust samples near the tents where people live solving are assigned to an area of revel. happy filed until saturday samples works best those analysis with just like the residents, the work is clearing the russell didn't use any protection from the dust either. especially those can cause mesothelioma long until oral cancer over decades, which constant exposure to contaminate to dust come quickly lead to acute illnesses . but oh, that's the got sick from the test. we take into the hospital
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and they give him oxygen. but then we come back here with the dynamic hook. yeah, sometimes he sleeps the whole week. yeah. and i am shows it's well according to public health experts, thousands of children in the region are at risk of developing lung cancer. by the time they get to bed, twenties, or thirties, this rubble dump is 50 meters away from containers where people live next to which is a high school with some 5000 students. the crew take some pulls from the dump site to, to i'm from the leaves, the vegetation nearby, all lives. and possibly a grown here off to harvesting the local produce is then transported owner of attack key ink of the old linux that is best. those materials been removed before the buildings were demolished off and the dangers could have been minimized within the list. because i wanna get rid of all the kids can let the local sets,
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the government prioritized, quick reconstruction of a public health of to 2 days of reporting on the ground. the team is backing coffee and tap. they take one last the sample from the roof. if that car, the next day, the lab result shows the task best of traveled hundreds of kilometers with them on top of the vehicle. it's a clear indication of the extent of the danger, possibly affecting millions of people using it also start to get a result. we received a really serious from when i typed it as best. those is 16 out of the $45.00 samples. i'll tell you why it is why the statements might by the authorities do not reflect the realities on the ground floor to the public health scientist also examine the lab report and it was the key in the we may face the death of tens of thousands of very young people, due to cancer official statements claiming that people are into effect. it only
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results in covering up the problem. the process of removing asbestos is costly and slow, but the talk experience shows how much more destructive as best of can be if it isn't done. because when dissolves to comes, it will be too late. i'm drawing nearby yasmin didn't touch is a structural engineer, an associate professor at the university college of london. she is herself from turkey. it's good to have you with this. let me just get your reaction to what we found in our report. asbestos in 16. a 45 samples that were taking are you alarmed? i absolutely, absolutely. but i'm not surprised. a tool man lever on sites in june last time these were besides the r, observe ations demolish months practice. these are ins done carefully.
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we have seen that small trees use very only very occasionally, and the amount of water is actually in sufficient to keep the particles in terms that you down. so from old demolish moments exercise is being done within the city . there's an incredible amount of dust and you know, including of course, i'll, specialist and other chemicals are mixing with the air as, as are entails by the people by the residence. in searching the officials to use in buildings start to to be regulated only in 2000. so a 2010. so we are really looking into the building stuff that's the only built in the past 10 years that we don't expect those special strong spots. the rest is going to have some of the best of inevitably. yeah, 2010 is obviously very late when compared to other countries. i'm when you're talking about the just the amount of dust that has been created by all of these
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buildings that have been damaged and demolished on. is it impossible to rule out the possibility of contamination? i mean there's just so much dust so many buildings aren't. you're going to have some level of contact with asbestos so totally totally that's. that's what i mean. i mean it's uh the whole demolish one's process. i thing is because of the best of just being in circulation right now, so. so poorly so badly. we have also um, wanting to express chair for me, the whole debris management operations. when we have spoken to the truck drivers, we have gone with them to the delivery disposal areas, etc. and the whole rules and the whole chain of events that, that's actually, you know, are taking place along those along those lines are actually inducing a lot of dust into the air. we have spoken to people that will leave it very close
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to the re disposal areas. and dave are very, very angry about the whole thing because they confidently breeze. they tend not to use their gardens anymore. they were trying very hard to keep their little young ones at home at all times, which is, you know, trying imagine it's such a, such a horrible thing and they cannot come see me more. mm hm. but unfortunately we're, we're, we're out of time. you asked me, but we're going to stay on the story and please come back and talk with us again because it's, it's obvious that the a for cautionary measures that could have been taken have not been taken, doesn't mean, you know, locked out structural engineering from university college one to thank you. or you're watching the w news. after short break, i'll be back to take you through the day
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