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my name is dora da. com investigated. i'm 34 years old. i've been in prison for 10 years and 6 months. second, the abortion is a crime. thanks to our constitution. and some of the world is still one of the few countries that bands abortions, in all cases the
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human rights organizations take advantage of women's lack of education and through forced propaganda and lies. they make them murderers of their unborn daughters and sons. it's a cruel act. it's a barbaric act. the explicit who do, i mean it was the 13th of july, 2007 due at the name and i was 9 months pregnant
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is that i was working at the central san salvador. and the pain was unbearable to my telephone. i started making calls me the suddenly my baby is about to be born and i said, i can stand the pain. come help me those separately. so many of the police said they would come right. but they never did know you that the went to look into my baby was born there and then i fainted. the look at when i woke up and i tried to get help the, why did you kill her? and the man asked me for me,
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i haven't killed anyone. i said the epic assembly said yes, you killed your daughter. now you have to pay the time, i didn't mind i took the passing out. i'm acquainted. okay. i just remember waking up and then same thing again. i was almost at the dental office. i've been imprisoned ever since the middle of the 1st, they said it was an abortion. when they changed it to aggravated homicide, they sentenced me to 30 years. the when, when the door opened, i didn't want to look inside, didn't put any of it, but in the community,
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i didn't want to talk to anyone. i didn't want anyone talking to me. just he had an enemy living. i wanted my baby, but i'd already bought clothes for her that that was so excited. they're me sitting machines, women sleep on the floor at 1st and i was left on the floor for 7 months. and as i used to live there crying for now and staring at the wall, wondering would i be able to leave the club? and when the truth would come out, the biggest thing i was afraid that i would never get out again. i thought, i think i won't survive, i'm going to die your money. in animal mental evidence. and the hearing in january 2008, i didn't have a lawyer to defend me. cps. my parents had given a lawyer,
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$700.00 to take my case and guess he demanded that they give him land cattle house and the car by the name of the gentleman that allow me to my parents asked me if they should give him the house. but i couldn't leave them on the street. so i decided not to have a lawyer. i prefer to stay in prison longer. if it meant my parents and my son would still have a place to live, you gave me the, i don't know how the years went by. and my son grew up without me. near the end of the 25 is my parents were always worried because they didn't have money to visit
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me. i was 21 and i was born one day when he was 3 years old. i got pregnant again. what's the name was to me and i was very excited because i wanted to have 2 children, the kid instead of what i want most just to be with on her gabrielle. you know coming but i missed the best of his childhood. no, i loved him more than ever, mac and i loved him from the day he was born and we loved him until the day i die. and they all with delta care, but they've disappeared. the
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or having an abortion goes against their nature against their maternal instincts, against their own interests. after an abortion women suffer clinical depression. but this kind of depression is important. these women have killed girls and boys who have the right to live. the other one might have been, meanwhile, had more than 3000 women live in the prison. and that kind of, they don't even have a bed or a blanket to sleep under. no. yeah, there's no running water. the fact that the food is terrible, and i mean, is there only 6 toilets for all these women? dirty. i'm with a company. i met many other inmates. i never realized they were in prison on
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similar charges. i thought i was alone. but it wasn't they don't know it. i think we realize there were many women accused of the same crime. today we were already friends, but we hadn't talked about our cases, the board for so fast fund them. and ahead and think that when they said 30 years, my 1st thought was not screwing up. i supplement, i've lost everything. the thought of me going to, since i haven't seen my daughter since i've been here, the thing was that i don't know how she's doing. i know nothing the doing. i had a fight with the father of my 1st daughter. she was 9 years old, but man and one thing i was 4 months pregnant and that's what they hit me and the baby died. i started bleeding a lot. my daughter saw me later last time that i just remember that i was given an injection in the hospital and they put me on a bed. but that's so
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a mess must have been. i woke up around 7 in the evening. i was handcuffed. they told me not to ask questions and to stay where i was thinking that i was alone in the room. but in the mail on the day of my hearing, there was no evidence against me. they only the testimony of one witness and the dna test. people in the end who was the witness, my daughters father who, who you? yes a and you couldn't no federal since the prosecutor was on their side. they didn't allow my lawyer to speak then minute. and then i don't know. they didn't allow my father to speak by the man and i don't, he was my only witness. and it's like that on the bottom. i've been here for almost 11 years and they sent him speech a 30. what happened to you? nicholas? i was accused of aggravated homicide. yes, dinah, i was at the hospital,
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a problem there. if i asked why i was handcuffed for them and they said i was charged with murder telling me that i have killed my own door. so mc asked, i have a show, okay, no, no, no, no, you know what? i filled down. it was an accident in my office about my daughter a me had and they didn't let me see her thing in the but i can sit on the need a many you don't get they all anyway. i did it specially h. i didn't understand what was happening and then because i haven't seen it, he said but and did it the doctor's blame. you don't just call the police or the photo. ok, i am, i don't have that and then they apply. didn't understand if they
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didn't give me an explanation. they took me to the police station and i went up felina. i was there for about 8 days. then they brought me here. james, i had on file and then when i'm in america, one of my daughters is 15 years old, then the other as well funny, but i got pregnant after being raped by 3 men, but i saw that i'm one of them was my brother. he went to me, my wife, after my mother died, i lost my baby. 20 days later, i was arrested during my baby's funeral. i think i mentioned the enemy, said felice. men were standing at the door of the church. i asked them, why are you looking for me again? and they said my name. i said yes, that's me. they said, you're under a risk for murder. i asked why they didn't kill anyone. they took my baby's body
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out of the coffin and threw it in the back of the pickup truck. they took my baby and they took me to the home. i left my 2 daughters behind. my parents were no longer there to take care of them. and i didn't want to leave them with my brother, the one who had hurt me. my brother and his friends have their families, while my daughters are suffering from any age, and they're having a hard time on their own. and i'm suffering without the senior. so for serious life has been really hard on me in that regard. and that's a good. yeah. she's sort of my thoughts. so if i'm the only one, maybe they just got it wrong and it was maybe they just made a mistake. try to thank god it was too late to find the again, when i learned that there were more of us, i got very angry and you will be when to because it means that el salvador sees
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women as property having in that i'm way to set them up as the stand up to them, where is the best in this? it has to be the laws allow them to rule over us unless you can implement national vendor sunday. now we cannot allow women to continue to be imprisoned for pregnancy emergencies in sales to not do anything about this situation. we're in, i'd be interested to help with some of the and we've quite strong relationships. we've decided to unite and defend ourselves. and as a mentor to get by the lawyers with the citizens group for the criminalization of abortion key and in 2012. and i'm glad they called us to 17 them or the way that we agreed that they would take on our cases and met. and that the 1st of us to come out of prison by whatever means for that it would be the 1st to denounce the conditions inside, present, or shadow. let's just assume for families and eventually 5
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at the moment. okay. and the master's told us they need to just looks person to represent us when the girls chose me to play the game for. so that's how it all started. these days are special for each one of us. we know we are in prison, but we had our spiritual freedom the see. yeah, i didn't that i see the bill or in see side about a typical him. this is we started with 17 women. now there are more of the systems, 2009. we have identified a 129 cases and will hand this ago the in addition to political lobbying mobilization, i'm campaigning now. the citizens group has
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a legal team. duct follows up on cases payments, or if the cases are not just going in the court room, they are one in the streets and looking them on the other than a b s. m l m party present to the penal code reform to decriminalize abortion level because the state the lawyers, so they don't dine these conditions on this while i'm president of the legislative assembly loading opinion presenting the bill alongside women's groups and request that when the last you when is the result the break when the mother's life is at risk when it's a result of human trafficking and when the case involved the minor because they've got so that that, that they may notice they are, those are pretty minutes. and it was, there seems to contradict the 2nd article of the constitution in finding the right to life of every person. and do you have a choice of either as they last? but as soon as they faced with the pressure from social organizations to decriminalize abortion, the catholic church, i objected to these measures,
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i think has to be archbishop, called on the legislature, not to change the penal code was on us. that's all the because you'll notice i did go the go up and not some of them will get out because if we can't take a look at the percentages for them, the width of the members of the legislature will see that if they vote to legalize the portion they will be going against the vast majority of the population feel, which is christian. yeah, collect also to see on the constitution says that life begins at the moment of conception. so i don't see why abortion to be judged less severely than aggravated homicide. i've come across from the changing the charges violates due process. they're trying to impose longer sentences. abortion carries a sentence of 2 to 8 years in philadelphia also to learn a lot more credit. the class in the middle or upper class women who have more money have $2.00 options and in the future they go to a private clinic and pay over $1000.00 for an abortion, for they go abroad for the procedure by you. so don't de larry i lose so i would as
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kind of win back in with that are murder is now considered a human right to my mother's right. this is an ideological relativism that for me as a politician, is an ideological upfront to the west of america and its citizens. and because i'm very got going back to this is the largest genocide in human history, much greater than the one carried out during the 2nd world war one, the others. but again, if you're not already selling partner states, he has not reviewed cases of miscarriages that have led to women's imprisonment. but the main thing and customer that's not what it does when it comes to miscarriages. no woman is being persecuted for having a miscarriage. while the best part of the time, you know, woman should go to jail for having an abortion the, the frequent duct of what i understand. unless on the upper east i
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was contacted by amnesty international ever taking this case will bundle. so let me know exclusively handle cases like this. so in seattle, i believe it is essential for just this charge against a dora was aggravated homicide. you only see major contradictions here to the i can tell. and i've, you know, one of us, one other thing of the killing of a newborn thing. 13 to 14 weeks gestation. female for my name, who was born alive, but died of parent natal, a 6 you know, fix up late enough that is signs of a 6 year by drowning were found. she loved it cuz you born died of parent 8 till the 6 year. she could not have died by drowning somebody. these things are mutually exclusive film or renee to let's fix it as a natural cause of death and that it cannot be one on the other at the same time. of course, i mean what the, i don't think the judge has even read the autopsy. i've talked to you about the la city and the when i read to dora's final, which is very extensive,
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and then i must admit, i saw this woman is guilty by the file intentionally, leads you to believe that she is guilty to that correctly. but does he happen to find, but when you sit down and read it more carefully, you wonder how is it possible that a woman who wants to have an abortion calls the police 5 times to ask them for help here. but i get, i have a great a, this is the main thing. lower he got the medical evidence as conclusive and member of the she had a pre term birth placental abrupt sion with heavy bleeding and loss consciousness. this is for medical history is consistent with the information. she provided a many cs to saying, but i said, i wouldn't. 9 months pregnant misses i was robs when i was on my way to send solve a door with my sick mother. and am when i was robbed on the bus, isn't that on the internet? the man tried to steal my phone and jumped towards me. nobody says the landing right on my belly say in the midst of
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the blow to the abdomen. and the final trimester can cause plus central abrupt sion which was probably the case with to dora. because when the baby came, the plus center came with it for those and because of the injury to the abdomen. this is the most logical conclusion. but to your door, like many others was stigmatized and convicted without evidence. to look at. if you provo instigate an abortion, that is if you give the patient the idea or assist or in any way, and you're also go to prison for 2 to 5 years. and that's why health care workers report everything to the police, if miscarriages, or still birds. they report any kind of termination of pregnancy and having so this is massage and they stigmatization and persecution for being a woman is a woman has a miscarriage. the 1st thing people think is that it was intentional or said when a woman becomes pregnant,
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she loses all her rights and automatically becomes an incubator. all her rights are violated, starting with the right to life, related to the stomach of the jungle police. i mean, we are fighting for this error to be corrected, but the judges, after 6 months of fighting court of appeals agreed to review the case. one does have a sense. yeah. and that's the current status system. us all know that the was on the radio and we'd like to invite you to join us tomorrow . it's an important day. we need the support of all of you that will be gathering in front of that. you see the room and then there's quotes to support to, to and i to hearing apple yandell app. the app is a crucial day for her and she needs just the so it'd be the from 7 am in front of
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the courthouse to show your supports in her fight to regain have freedom. the
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more for me there, what's your family's help is the persistence to the what i would like is for her son to have his mother's love with any of them he has had to live with his grandparent or not. his mother does somebody, we'll pray to god that the case will be result. and she looked at her freedom back . let us down even. she's been depressed for so long and unable to take care of her son. 70 possibly. it goes back to the faulty investigation. the facts are all there . if this is based on your investigation is tail, though the innocent or guilty made of a fuse. that's for the judges to decide based on the evidence in the mind. just presenting evidence, i think. what is that going? i'm sort of so many of the brother instead of me not to be clear,
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was the child still born or could it have been killed? or let us know that nothing in the autopsy confirms the child ever drew breath. so you know that a link to it was still born. what i think it didn't drop breath the the what happened to your baby? i mean, i was 9 months pregnant when my baby came. i've been imprisoned ever since. 11 years in prison. how many people are in the same situation?
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23 of us are accused of this crime that we did not commit to quite normal form of data for months. and how were these years in prison knowing you were innocent and been very difficult benefits. i based hard times in prison instead of because i'm paying for a crime, i didn't commit to a step by the moment a little bit. give me a 2nd and what is your message to the work world and the country's lot of boards and it's still criminalized or west city. my message is to review all the cases of women who have been convicted of a crime similar to mine. same and that we did not commit these crimes. we need our freedom back because it's our right look at them. it isn't that we have a right to freedom. they have violated our freedom. that must have not only my freedom but of many women. and i thought that the state did not support us but discriminated against us as women fatal. but we have the strength and courage to keep fighting there. but if they get
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a chance to review it or what are you asking from the judges? like i said, i'm going to give me back my freedom quest that i'm going to with that because i am innocent. split kate because i have a family to fight for. now if i mean, i forget which it such a thing because i have people who love me and need me to be with them. that's all is the
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kind of most of the sort to your sentence was upheld global, secretive. how can the prosecutor say she killed without evidence of this kind of justice is not justice, as i'll see you. and that must be something that was easy. the
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list set up with this situation. we've had enough of the violence against women people of the. 2 world police report as salvador, we are becoming more and more impoverished, but we are not pool. we own congress by the patriarchal capital, the system, the we women will keep fighting. this is an injustice. the
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flower arrangement was given to the legislature by a group of activists and family members of women in prison for health complications that lead to miscarriage. that as for clemency for 17 women who were sentenced to prison terms of up to 40 years, which they were found guilty of aggravated homicide. if either of them is
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a distress signal, sometimes in el salvador ocean is perceiving the selling. it is a country that has some of the wells strictest abortion laws that have delayed a ruling on whether to free a woman who was sentenced to 30 years in prison after she gave birth to a still born baby. human rights organizations are calling for an end to well sounds . it was totally banned from a fund that i will gather your lawyer came and gave me a paper and said, mean i might even have to smoke read this is simply the your sentence has been reduced to the time you've already spent a year when dentist had not had to say that sample for you. i had a pain in it for sending. i took the paper and started reading. so as though it said that i was absolved in the point at assessing that i thought this can't be true. my sentence was just upheld that i've seen them,
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but i read it again and again, a 1000 times to make sure it understood. i know that i completed the when i was informed that i was free, i read out the letter with the other girls that they were trying. we love each other in here, the asking what we're family, the for the thought is the main thing is that we stuck together. because together we can break down the walls that surround us. the. they know that my leaving here is a door opening for them to with them. i can save it but a the, the
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morning. thank you for being here on said that the ministry of justice and security has approve the commutation of the sentence of this page or investigates. reducing it from 30 years to 10 years and 7 months day pay it or investigate is walks free. of the 2nd chance of life. thank you for coming.
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the didn't recognize anyone saying that even my siblings are my nephew's
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the not gonna see i didn't recognize anyone. can see the yes and see that it was a long day, but it wasn't even tired when i was free. but afraid to face life. nobody i today. i couldn't believe that. he called me mamma is the same thing for the sale of your machine. and i still wasn't used to the idea that i had a teenage son. and he wasn't used to the idea that he had a young mother in the facility there at the minimum of the holding me for the simple to get but
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a look for him. my mother was his mother and she has to mothers the indian. so you're sending me the day i got out and i felt so much happiness the see that but i remember missing but also like i was split into the last semester. so if you win a part of the one part of me wanted to get out of it and the other was afraid to leave the women behind to have missed us a minimum. they told me we will also be freed. i mean the, me to have it, but i felt bad that i'd gotten lucky and they hadn't the 7th day that of the savvy, i guess i knew the march 8th protest existed in, but i didn't know the extent of it. my 1st time there
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was unforgettable. the interesting thing was it made me think when, when i'm not alone, i'm stronger. i will join them so we speak with one voice. hello, salvatore and people sisters. and all of you who are here today today is a very important day for all of us. i am very happy and grateful. your struggle was
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worth it. i am the living proof. i am here to join you in sight alongside you to free the other incarcerated women. i invite each and every one of you to stand together and keep on fighting. because the site does not stop here, we will take on everyone who comes because we're fighters. we will not be silent. we are women who will face anything that comes our way. the hello framing. how are you? i'm very proud of you and my i'm so happy about all the effort you're putting in on our behalf. god bless you. take care of your son, your family. i love you very much and i hope to or out there with you one day soon sending you lots of kisses and hugs. i love you very much. the
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semester started. it's been less than 2 months since i regained my freedom. so just send us, i will never get back those 10 years of my life. we had a co pay that. but that's my pass to get some benefit, any percent? i'm leaving my present now in the sending and campaigning for the women who are still in prison, the viet at the latest. i'm raising my voice on their behalf. either the key i am calling on the legislative assembly of el salvador to speed up the process of commuting their sentences,
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battled and put pressure on the government of el salvador to release these 24 women . there are still 24 women in prison facing enormous difficulties to keep fighting after 10 years in prison is not only extraordinary. it takes great courage to have the common does because you on inspiration to us the, the
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people don't understand the reality of women. the worst thing is that women who live in the countryside in small villages are the most vulnerable. no woman who has money is in prison, not one. believe me. we are guilty because we are women. we have no rights. from the moment we get pregnant, our lives don't matter. what matters is to feed us, we're carrying. the mother's health doesn't matter. only the child imagined a 12 year old girl going to school her future still ahead of her if she gets raped and pregnant, she will be forced to have the child just because of our loss. i believe this is unjust. we must raise our voices and say what we feel and think about this issue. the
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time we let them, i wanted to see them, but i didn't think you'd be possible in the printer for many years. it was good to come back and visit the prison. to see every one and say that i am here to live made an historic i support you and will be with you no matter what the way as tank almost in the in good times and bad sam when i'll be there you with that good
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