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modem and everything was going well and s b a. then the war began to sort of not everyone was forced out. the this is my father what? what's his name? best way of what is your ability to invest? quite as hands were tied. yes. who's that? my brother in law holmes, i taught bosh comes up to a bunch of them kids, you know, his hands were also tied with plastic. see how that works? can i encourage a couple of, do you like to leave the upload a sent a way the women in his family and some relatives to be kind of an issue for you to

necessarily city on september 23rd, 2019 at around 3 pm. total 7 or 8 born or is entered the house. let me just see if there's gonna be any. what is it? let me said they were probably russian. bruce or the my brother mohammed mohammed are the norm and it gets plastic film. definitely. you know, if it's monday enough, so just like the others listen, yes. one second them who were also tied up like that more, but you can't get free. so sort of any lame although a jeweler, any but you know, let how about i told him he should go fish and whom is that, why did he stay? what kind as if he was too proud to go. he told me he was ready to die in his house and with the

in april 2019 libyan war. lower general. hi, lisa, have launched an assault on the you and recognize government and it is capital tripoli. the, it soon became clear that half those troops known as the libyan national army, the l. n. a, were not acting alone. the seem to be that the intelligence agency reported on it. cuz i'm not that many of them. you're an estimate of 200 people. me to answer about them, but the fighting went on, are the number grew up or what not the

from the start, these forces made a difference on the battlefield. a clear difference was how you can and they had weapons we'd never seen before as to how they can. then most of howitzers will see any precision guided ammunition. can snipers and 1000 home was a muscle understood. they hit with a him, daddy, those 10 he was of a. they could take out a moving car. no time. totally from ken. hey, anyhow, for the last they were highly trained militarily. and the account of the deep asked me for unlike uh, sort of the discount with the any i mean and can we any uh, jimmy,

unless they or the same clothes helmets in body or the the canada we found out who they were when they went to the front them and i'm home, i'm in front of you. they were mainly russians and bore from countries of the former soviet union solved for months, reporters from the bbc's, arabic and russian service is carried of research into russian mercenaries in libya . the, they're known collectively as the wagner groups but who is dog now? and why was the group in libya? and most importantly, who was pulling the strings? the been unlucky break the

okay, here we go. um, by the time the, the, the, we got this is tablets, its government troops has found us a lot on sort of the, about the call to them to talk about the need with it belong to one of the wagner men who were stationed in the islands our area within the selves of tripoli, i can't imagine why you didn't see multiple things are going to dallas. and i tried that and there are a lot of houses on the most important is offline maps. many locations are marked on kind of thrown on uh, and id them in, in monica or the, this, the, this is triple a. in the west of livia, all the names are and russian, many locations are marked in different colors. uh the them in the market. or next to them and when sounds like a, like a minimum of probably below no, most, most in red or below and others are in blue. and that got it done by the quads. a few smaller places in black. we even see yellow here, and those are the now,

as you see, all the points are near ions are of the south of triple is all the whole. yeah. if you're going to look that up with the adamant again i is the, we're going to ions are the middle where this tablet was found on lines that are kind of the items are a head, a heavy russian presence according to the civilians and military personnel who were they asked the and the kind of want to come up to them and them as you can see in the areas now m terminate is or if there was a mass exit is for hines, or at the time of the things that it's residents returned. once the war and another thing about it, they were way for more than a year, not a southern center because it's better to walk behind me

kind of high some while i finally spend 9 weeks fighting wagner mercenaries in ons are they were only 10 kilometers from tripoli, can i do some of these on? the enemy was over there by the tower and the musk. skinner. and then they drove up and down in an armored vehicle with their wounded countries of how the oh and you can most of the time. this is where the russians had their observation post, where there snipers were stationed. let's have a look at the, you know, where was the sniper exactly?

at the moment, this was this domain name from that settlement. we were at the end of the street and had this investment cannot be found as you get a clear shot in several directions. not everything and view, and they can, they may not have. what do you think about the russians who are here? the mercenaries. anyhow, they only care about money for a heavy you need a search. um they kill somebody if they commit crimes for money, that's the problem that in and is it's a criminal organization. one of them was it on me. so.

ringback really about about, off has been researching the wagner group for the bbc for years pioneer. so these, so these are the locations that were saved by the bag and a soldier on the tablets as they were fighting. so they would have the tablets on them and all these locations were saved as landmarks. so do you have a significance to a soldier in regards to the fights and they were doing, and i ins or so a 5 starts from the top here. and this is the closest point to should police. so this would be a 9 is our phone line. i'm going to zoom in a bit more. it is me. this could be a list of targets. for example, they write to thermal targets or nighttime arrival. diesel reach beloved said it

may be that meant a shell landed there at night, so i don't know who to do with this. so if he's zoom in here earlier, is this mohammed's asian? it probably means some kind of local commander was working with them because lower down is the word study, use it. so the kids, so there's an arabic means friend. so they can use of they called the troops. they cooperated with and syria substitute troops and you will see that that's apparently what they call general hop tars forces. and lydia was come up and she learned very simple language and so called sound like code names. they probably had a check point at the junction of each other as a come to the judging from the code names,

the read positions are those of the mercenaries. and so i think from the code names that we have for some of the soldiers, will we be able to identify them? yes, of course. he's cute. we have list says wagner personnel with names and code names and events. and you say that to me just because there's no tax, there's no way we could use this map to start digging limits. and that's a stupid thing to do. the typical bargain that unless someone is that the wagner group is one of the most secretive organizations in russia, i could send that because it doesn't even officially exist. but it's important that you provide more than 5000 people are found to be part of this organization. named after the great german composer, when you get to compose you and i don't mean to bug that a condom mercenaries don't give interviews done. you that you do to former members

agreed to talk to us if we kept their names and identities c criminal. but it was for the semester, but i'm not uniqueness to contain the music. again, these are their exact words spoken by actors sort of what i need to get his cousin level as well. some of us to start with something simple as you can company. how would you explain who the wagner group is and what it does to someone who's never heard of it? and if it does that, it can use that. so if you're to my husband, you might not, you'll still, i still knew i'd probably start by telling them what i was told when i joined the episode on board at just the door to control it. but it knows it's an organization that supports russian interest to yonder countries, borders. so to get to that, but it does much not live upon you in. yeah. a so, but as a dutch, you know,

it takes on special tasks that means military operations east. supposing what kinds of people joined and then what is led to me, there are 3 categories, 3, could you go to a little g firstly, men who can't imagine any other life for themselves. what the core and mercenaries . so that to that list job is the only way they want to live and earn a living. we slept at the so you'll see is nobody left shit. split them is that about the when you're junior folk of what the prophecy that i get, you go to italy, you get 3 categories, 2 people with a sense of hopelessness. need you more would make you was more than to see just to increase and that they can't see any other way to support themselves. and

usually who did we come because there is no other option. go to a jetta. mind to keep. and the 3rd category romantic, usable, dreamers in search of an adrenalin hit. you know, also want to serve their country. issue was more of a list, but literally did cheese. a 5 no units followed along side pro russian separatists in eastern ukraine in 2014, in 2015. they showed up in syria, and then the central african republic ensued on and in 2018 livia. over the last time we started getting reports of russians fighting for the so called wagner group on half to our side in the fall of 2019 half of the cannot see how do you have seen with this of us, the units in front of us? i don't know exactly how many were in libya still be so 500 but the 150. so if

1500, the numbers very not what they were there and 2019. that's a fact. we saw mercenaries come in on both sides of the conflict. you also had the number of the syrians, thousands of syrians who were brought in uh on the part of the on behalf of the jenae through through turkey. we were concerned about this, you know, insertion of mercenaries and weaponry that was perpetuating, intensifying the conflict and leading 1st and foremost to be a mr. ration of the living people. this need needed to stop because we knew there was not, there was going to be a military solution to this conflict. came a form of as far as i understand, it was so cool. the russian government's position was the following. legal,

you have left them joint and we'll wait it out. what early in the product? yeah you mother. yes, i cannot. these, you can look at these usually if it works out well, we can use it to our advantage. if it turns out badly, then we had nothing to do with it much that are are there. so last time we spoke we um, we shared with you uh, some of the exams are found by the tablets, other locations or the tablets. um, can you tell us why you manage to find the yes, we ran all the names and code names of wagner fighters thought to have been in libya through a database. the database was compiled by ukrainian volunteers during the fighting and eastern ukraine in 20142015. the that we were able to identify 2 or 3 of the fighters on the triple lima. by it's all about as to the

back of the 3 kinds of people you oh wow, that's amazing kit. are you able to share with me one of the identities on in the chat? so can have a look which is which we now know that this has to meet 3, but on se was born in 1993 is code name, so lank. that makes sense. and it's the name of a river embody. gotcha. and the russian far east of them is weird. see, he's from buddy up to you and that explains his code name. do you want me to assist you with his personnel? number, it shows he's one of the 1st people that joined bog down and explained to me that it was with numbers up to 3000. are those who went to fight 6 years ago in ukraine's united issue. they went through syria and they're now in africa, which is to the early so the looking at his birth date is about 28 years old. so that means he started fights and we were begging there at the start of his twenty's

. yes. judging from his age, he probably completed his national service, then ukraine conflict started. that's how he got involved. you'd be doing so as a pacifically before what we'll do is i've sent you another link, but i don't check this my pretty soon the this is the data and me, it's kim. it tells him as a door, andre of it, i hope i pronounced that correctly. as model how to code name meddler made me to the meta, exactly a short version of his surname. and just to kind of show that you will find me what information have your minutes together about this guy. he's interested, he's significantly older than photo and stuff over 35. judging from his personal number, he also joins wagner, 5 or 6 years ago during the fighting and the eastern new crane being the best i can

can i you me and yeah, um, so just seen this interesting picture of this guy um with a big tattoo units and a chest um and the idea would just have to means is yes. i see it says son we'll, he's probably some kind of nazi. i'm not say i don't, this is a common thing amongst baggers social's. yes, there are some. so do you have um is them a phobic believes in? i don't think they care if they fight in muslim countries or anywhere else. they started out fighting an orthodox ukraine and that didn't seem to matter. i don't think religion is the main thing here. did you choose news, news, news, news, world news was to be an option. what was it that attracted you to the organization?

didn't give money? what do you mean? you know, to belong to them by to a good fit the but i'd already been a volunteer fighter and done boss in ukraine able to go then you don't mind to keep away in the i no longer believe in the romance of war certificate by not i knew the reality, so get onto the website again, that i just needed the money to junior, which that's good. we went to the talk about going to libya starts and did you believe that was going to show we started talking about it early on whenever there's some kind of armed conflict. wagner soldiers talk about it. luckily, i'm not sure and good. you could go to this one that could be one for us. i would look to the political one the door, but almost of cause a standalone and get a, it's a, comes up that the game. every contract in every country means money. yes. and you have to come without a contract, no money. so changes or what the pricing to be the minimum. how many wagner people

were deployed in libya? believe me. yes, my right. i know about 2 units and they were replaced by another to me. i knew about them, so if you have some tubs of on the school, how many men genuine was, i don't know exactly around a 1000. i can get the some with the friends and dental piece, which i so that's what a i some, i have a tablet that we got from one of the wagner locations on my uh, equipment and on and off months were buying them. their forces are in rid, yours are in blue. uh. let me see. the i was stationed here the 2nd time of every now. and then when you were stationed there. yeah. safety the enemy knew precisely where you were or how does

that deal with the model? and the so it's a strange feeling to think that they tracked all our movements obviously already been well enough for them to come to me to the final. but that was the wagner position. we've located whether this is one of our positions and that's partners. the others and they can play the kennel, the 4th following up, or the fence of trench. anything in advance or how are they able to locate you so precisely? and go to the doctor and they monitored us with small drones. the, the home number 5 in front of me identify some of the wagner menu were fighting. would you like to know who they were? their name is on the pictures, the smell homo, so on the ticket, so the the, this is one of the point saved on the tablet that's, it's named after one of them in this 150 is called metal or as well.

so that was our position as an estimate of cameron or his full name is say to or and a tell can i was born in 1984 which makes 10 on the $37.00 about that i think the center as a sort of that's his picture this is one of the guys who were fighting in se hoodie, it feels weird of course as much older than you send them before are these are supposed to sure. our guys are 21 years old and that's a huge difference that it can be a vendor my, any thoughts of where the and boost says that it needs as if they were fighting well trained russians all older than 30 and then and no can as close to the man and i for one more moment. imagine what the battles would have been like if our people had been the same age and was edu, keep canyon. and i said, hey, cool,

the discussion and to get with you, man, you have just, i mean, i served for a long time in the organization in syria for going to us these get them when you, when the libya campaign started a couple of, i didn't want to take as far as the learn you does a not in syria so many but, and definitely not in libya way of leaving the least, you know, just well, i took part in the storming of pal mirror, but a union you've to meet for the liberation of the oil fields school because how many of them died level, but i'm always glad you asked me too many we you know, put up the numbers. ok. we know that one of their primary

re minutes was to protect the pulmonary tow mirror area. that area is really the heart of oil and gas production in, in syria. we saw spreadsheets with, you know, millions and millions of roubles being transferred in exchange for providing infrastructure, security and perimeter, security and securing the oil and gas facilities. and the wagner group would get a portion of the take from, from the production. basically, the draft of the contract became public in early 2018. the 2 partners were allegedly, the syrian government and a russian company, andro ponies. the russian company not only appear to profit from the gas and oil production, but was also apparently connected to the wagner group in libya.

what's been at stake there are, you know, both oil um delivery from the ports as well as gas production facilities in that sort of been gauzy area. and then, you know, going, you know, south and east word we're haft are, is, is prevalent. the wagner mercenaries are sought to have taken up positions and key libyan oil fields. after the assault on tripoli, a contorted know what it means. that's 3 statues. honor the wagner. you brooks comfortably play music. one shows a soldier protecting a child's is the stick. if the artist had been honest, yeah, and that's the soldier would be protecting an oil. the last quarter won't have to move with that. i am the sort of general all of this gun dental. they were many serious crimes committed during the civil war.

many were forced out of the system of to house that. i mean the 1340 was under siege. my know in the people were severely impacted us mentally and financially as outcome. the homes were destroyed. all that position stone and many died in this will apply for children and women. one fuser the mother she had to go. i've spoken to miss maurice, committed a heinous crime against a family in espia says 3 of us of them on the flat though it should be in september. we were in this house and s b a on september 23rd 2019. so it was 3 o'clock in the afternoon, i was running this item that we were about to go back to our other farm popular. we met an armed group on the road and they started shooting in the air. the florida and image ma am and 6 or 7 mercenaries entered the house,

and they were foreigners and it was clear they were from the wagner group lump soon. uh they put hoods over our heads, but we could still see a little that can know you and mr. help you out. a couple know they put us in a car, a nissan or a suzuki. and then they took us to a concert, been garcia or the phone, and it goes to the shift residents secretly film the videos that showed the faces of loc, now mercenaries, and libya, for the 1st time on the side level was at 5 or 6. am they put us in the back of the nissan of then they took us to the neighbor's house and how is it that it had an

out building and it's 6 am they lined us up their side by side? when they put into how do i have vision? i was at one end, i'm sure i'll put numbers before when one of them drew his gun home can and i knew he was going to shoot. let me have this that. how does that mean if it a few nights tell him pretended to be dead, but the, it's been months madness and his mom and the muslims, it was dark and i look kind of some stuff for the family was lined up along this goals and i'm getting tired of some of the so let's see if this is where the wagner man committed their crime. got definitely been hickey. i waited about 5 minutes until they left things out the room and i heard the car leaving. so yeah, the other 2 must come into the waters. my father and brother and brother in law were all dead. how does that does to can you describe any of the people who fired at you want to find the know so what i look at on a so i sort of had this one was outside the supermarket and s b. i was involved and

it's not like enough and it's kind of heavy. well i, you know, not him, but a similar type image. my one of them is from the far east shift from the far east. yes. so in other words, i'm sort of, could you recognize him? yes, i did. it is the same. do you recognize him that sams ness and stuff, are they so when did he have the same hair cut? next? yes. what sonus are you up as not his name? is will that he made an announcement? what are your aliases? my alias is vaca readings to my wife, my mother and my daughter, and my friends and the republican for out you. when seems to us more of a good that of he was born in 1978. look, his code name is rocca. see, he was in syria and in libya, he was accused of killing prisoners would be about bullying. he

was allegedly involved in the execution of ukrainian soldiers. and william, that's a little issue. ukrainian activists are tracking wagner mercenaries to find an eastern new crane. we've had enough to mention that for us. we believe we wouldn't of us to complain. they've identified his last known location. i've seen it has north africa, nobela cuts, cable it the save it in there. often it comes with anthem. but this is disputed by voc as friends on social media. i think it's sadly you will come and you of course, welcome to me. believe you, they say he's alive and well at home in body, etc. i don't know where to is it? what was that? all we we were unable to contact and i deem it undone of the do you have to keep it? is it just to come in as the to a piece of president center recently the 2000 bach in the missing res were in libya

. miami, uh no. you want me to go uh, can i get the combined the box enough? i mean, if russian citizens are there, then they're not acting on the orders of the russian state, and they're not getting money from the russian state. you believe here, it's almost like a little though it's all. so you can ask for team as many questions as we would like to use with, with the we've heard many answers, but nothing makes sense here. and we'll see if it's clear that without the state supports of a company like that could never exist outside of the for example, like when you've got personnel and equipment being transported in defense, ministry, plains use some of or, and russian navy, cargo planes to syria for example the cd, the a, something like that or whatever. uh,

floating. i see the libyan army attacked wagner positions and saw that a dean south of tripoli, in february 2020. the government forces received military support from turkey, which helped to turn the tide against wagner. the group had been trying to find fresh supplies, the visa requests for military equipment. they were sent just a week after president pretend denied supporting russian mercenaries in libya, the the,

the 1st thing it's immediately of this, having had to look at this equipment request list is that now primarily russian manufactured and produced weapons. these are not weapons of easily available ass on the open market. the of the 272 they are old ranks has probably been upgraded. i wouldn't say sites with yeah, it's probably at least some of the latest equipment on it. this isn't a unit that is content to go into the field with 2nd, right, equipment. if there was one type of weapon that jumps out to you as probably the most advanced thing, or, you know, the new point of view, the most interesting part would it be. there's a one piece of equipment that stands out here and it's a particular right of the states a deal. and that radars task will be to collide analyze electronic signals intelligence over

a much wider area. so that kind of leads one to assess that pos of this unit may well be feeding intelligence fading electronic intelligence up to a higher level. who do you think that might be for in order to be able to approve this kind of listener is obviously someone. well connected, hire either politically or militarily within the back in a group. and clearly some of them with extremely good access. and my interpretation to the russian government the to do these look like genuine documents. absolutely, no doubt about it. for the profile of the, you know, who signed this 9 is the code name for mr. wagner or mr. kenneth to boot can

himself the imagery in was once a part of a russian special forces unit. his code name, wagner. because of his admiration for the nazis who appropriated the music of the german composer, the boat can, is thought to be the founder and commander of the wagner group. there's because got to, here's a clue, company you've a company, abriel police. unless any, most of it was active and oil producing areas in syria. seen this, it, it, you do this? so this information is about radio communication equipment, boston battle, i had that as piece. and these are receipts for radios made out by field commanders who took part in the attack on tripoli is going to get you

wouldn't let immediate reports link police to business. man, you've got any precaution goals and them. he's known the russian president vladimir putin for a long time. there's been some of the media call, the importance chef on zillow. getting real simple, but i'm the most come november 2018. the footage of general half cars visit to the russian defense ministry. the among those present the you have guinea precaution, the flyer. thank you for supporting the libyan people. and for your a in our fight against terrorism, the general hosta launched his

assault on tripoli just 5 months later. i. so you're getting for gordon is a well known russian oligarch who for many, many years was very close to the put in routine. but he is under sanction now by the united states. and so are his businesses the pacific, able to senior. these documents are addressed to a general director who could that be the most and with the most, i think the general director is you have any per, goshen the the, the kind of the list that's interesting. we're kind of the thing here, but i sure if they're writing to the general director that goes in as a businessman, he runs restaurants on you know what they need to pay for the steam commute, but here they say they need tanks, don't they seem as well but they have to go to talk to that means that the russian army is a serious organization. and to get a tank,

you have to at least negotiate with someone as high as a general director. so it's like you're not gonna affect the minimum of a regular company commander can't just go and pick up a tank whenever he needs one or hopefully someone gives me more of a play tv that thought this new mobile and precaution. can you help me? i think so, they're not just writing these letters for funding, but what's the, what they want to tax on adult ability to what to ordinary soldiers. say about precaution, with the cook um dislike in harry potter, where no one is allowed to say the name voldemort will email. it's a taboo subject. it's better not to mention it, them a lights, or you might end up in a metal box with a messed up face for 2 weeks that you got this was really as i'm convenient. it sounds good to me. it's only because you goes to the bottom. you did, you use it in the heat and a metal container and completed the so with i messed up face. if

you have any pre goals and spokesman denies any connection between pre goshen and everett police as well as any human rights abuses committed by russian citizens. in libya at 11 15 am this morning's here, new un headquarters and geneva, the 2 libyan delegations signs a complete country wide and permanent cease fire agreement with immediate effect. the parties agreed that all military units and armed groups on the front lines shall return to their camp. the shelby, accompanied by the departure of all mercenaries and foreign fighters from all libyan territories within a maximum period of 3 months from today. so so, so, so, so, so our other says, all the units have left their mark on tripoli in the form of minds and booby traps

around the problem. the words danger mines are written on this wall. well yeah, an arrow shows where they are logging in on that. well there at least 3 children have died in this neighborhood about 43 children. that's why they're yes, from families that came back a sort of thing. how difficult to mines you're always worried that you could lose someone. you're going to come in. the reports, say, thousands of foreign fighters remain in libya, including members of the wagner group, the

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