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the modem and everything was going well and s b a. then the war began is sort of out. everyone was forced out. this is my father. what? the other one, what's his name? that's more of what is the g, the invest quite his hands were tied. yes. who is that? my brother in law, how does that told bosh hands of the bush? for them quite as you know, his hands were also tied with plastic. see how that works? can i encourage people? would you like to leave the upload? a sent a way the women in his family and some relatives, he kind of uh, let me see that for you to necessarily city on september 23rd,
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2019 at around 3 pm. total 7 or 8 born or has entered the house. let me just see and this would be good news. what was that? what was that they were probably russian, bruce or the my brother mohammed mohammed are the norm and it gets plastic film definitely in the office. monday enough. so just like the others listen yes. one second them who were also tied up like that more, but you can't get free. so sort of any lame on board to the anybody in the let how about i told him he should go fish and whom is that why did he stay who look and as if he was too proud to go, he told me he was ready to die in his house and with the
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in april 2019 libyan war. lower general. hi, lisa have launched an assault on the un recognize government and previous capital, tripoli the, it soon became clear that half those troops known as the libyan national army. the l. n. a. were not acting alone, the server that the intelligence agency reported on it cut the not that many of them, you're an estimated 200 people. me to answer for about them. but the fighting went on, are the number grew up or what? the
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what are the from the start, these forces made a difference on the battlefield. a clear difference was how kennedy had they had weapons we've never seen before. as to how they can then most of howitzers will see any precision guided ammunition. can snipers, 7000 home was camacho countries did they hit with aimed at those to any result? they could take out a moving car. no time. totally from ken. hey anyhow, for them. and they were highly trained militarily in the account of the deep asked me for unlike other stuff coming in the i mean on can we any a jimmy? honestly, they all were the same close helmets and body or the the
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canada. we found out who they were when they went to the front them and i'm, i got a view, they were mainly russians and for from countries of the former soviet union savvy. about 4 months reporters from the bbc's, arabic and russian service is carried of research into russian mercenaries in libya . the they're known collectively as the wagner groups but who is dog now? and why was the group in libya? and most importantly, who was pulling the strings, the been unlucky break the
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okay, here we go. um by them. how that's how the, the, the we've got, this is the tablet government troops has found a lot on sort of the, about the call to the 4th and alternate, where it belonged to one of the wagner men who were stationed in the items are area within the cells of tripoli, i can't imagine why he didn't see him on top of things are going to dallas. and i tried that and there are a lot of houses on the most important is offline maps. many locations are marked on kind of thrown on uh, and id them in, in monica, or the have this, the, this is triple a. in the west of livia, all the names are and russian, many locations are marked in different colors out even in the mall. com or next to the edwin sonic a like a minimum of how blown off much most in read below and others are in blue. and i got it done by the quite a few smaller places in black. we even see yellow here, and those are the, as you see, all the points are near ions are of the south of triple is all the whole. yeah. if
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you go to the adamant again i is the, we're going to ions are the middle where this tablet was filed with the names that are kind of items are a head, a heavy russian presence according to the civilians and military personnel where they ask any of you that kind of want to come up to them and them as you can see in the areas now em terminates. there was a mass exodus for hines art at the time of the things that it's residents returned . once the war ended, i know the they were way for more than a year and on the southern center veterans you won't find me under
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high some while i finally spend 9 weeks fighting voc number scenarios in odds are they were only 10 kilometers from tripling. can i do some of these? i know the enemy was over there by the tower and the mosque. they drove up and down in an armored vehicle with their wounded countries of how the how and most of the time this is where the russians had their observation post where they're snipers were stationed. let's have a look at the, you know, where was the sniper? exactly at the moment this was this
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domain name from that settlement. we were at the end of the street and had this investment cannot to come as you get a clear shot in several directions. with everything and view, then they can have a not a good idea of what do you think about the russians who are here? most of mercenaries. anyhow, they only care about money for uh how do you need a search um of the kill somebody? did you go from the commit crimes for money the problem that in and is it's a criminal organization? one of them is it only really about about off has been researching the wagner group for the bbc for years
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pioneer. so these are, these are the locations that were saved by the vegan, a soldier on the tablets as they were fighting. so they would have the tablets on them and all these locations were saved as landmarks. so do you have a significance to a soldier in regards to the fights and they were doing and names are so, and if i start from the top here, and this is the closest point to ship really. so this would be a nines our phone line. i'm going to zoom in a bit more as it is, and this could be a list of targets. for example, they write to thermal targets or nighttime arrival. diesel reach beloved said it
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may be that meant a shell landed there at night. so i don't know who to do with this. so if he's zoom in here earlier, is this mohammed's citizen? it probably means some kind of local commander was working with them. because lower down is the word study. sunday, get. so due to the arabic means, friend. so the command of the ships they called the troops, they cooperated with and syria substitute troops and the cds. that's apparently what they call, general hop tars forces. and lydia was come up and she learned very simple language and so called sound like code names. they probably had a check point at the junction of each other is a come to the judging from the code names, the read positions are those of the mercenaries. so any of these things from the
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code names that we have for some of the soldiers will when we be able to identify them? yes, of course he's cute. we have list says wagner personnel with names and code names. and you see that to me just because there's no that's there's no way we could use this map to start digging limits. and that's a stupid thing to do. the typical buttons that are most someone is that the wagner group is one of the most secretive organizations in russia. i could send that because it doesn't even officially exist at some point. it could you please, but more than 5000 people are found to be part of this organization, named after the great german composer. when you get to the complex you and i don't mean to bug, the mercenaries don't give interviews. some kind of money that you'd do to former members agreed to talk to us if we kept their names and identity secret. but it was
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for the semester, could i mean not uniqueness, defining the use again, these are their exact words spoken by actors sort of what i need to get of running his cousin level as well. some of us to start with something simple as you can company. how would you explain who the wagner group is and what it does to someone who's never heard of it? and if it does that, it can use that. so if you're to my husband, you might, it's not just a little i still knew i'd probably start by telling them what i was told when i joined the episode about that just the dora could do it, but it knows it's an organization that supports russian interest yonder countries borders so to get to that, but it does much not live opinion. yeah. so because of that, i know it takes on special tasks. that means military operation was east
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because then what kinds of people joined and then what is led to me? there are 3 categories they, you have a 3, could you go to a at the low g. firstly, men who can't imagine any other life for themselves at what the corn mercenaries. so that to that list job is the only way they want to live and earn a living. we split that. um so you would raise nobody left shit. split them. is that about the, in your junior book of what the prophecy that i get you go to italy, you get 3 categories, 2 people with a sense of hopelessness. any more would make us more or less the just to increase and that they can't see any other way to support themselves. and usually when we come because there's no other option. good. yeah,
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i don't mind to keep. and the 3rd category romantic, usable a dream, or is in search of an adrenalin hit. you know, also want to serve their country. issue was, was list best movie, good cheese. wagner units photo along side pro russian separatists in eastern ukraine in 2014, in 2015. they showed up in syria, and then the central african republic ensued on and in 2018 libya. and we started getting reports of russians fighting for the so called wagner group on half to our side in the fall of 2019 half the cannot see a heidi had a scene with this of us, the media it's in front of us. i don't know exactly how many were in libya. be so $500.00 both a $150.00. 61500. the numbers very not what they were there in
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2019. that's a fact. we saw mercenaries come in on both sides of the conflict. you also had a number of the syrians, thousands of syrians who were brought in uh on the part of the on behalf of the jenae through through turkey. we were concerned about this, you know, insertion of mercenaries and weaponry that was perpetuating, intensifying the conflict and leading 1st and foremost to be a mr. ration of the living people. this need needed to stop because we knew there was not, there was going to be a military solution to this conflict of from, of, as far as i understand, it is so cool. the russian government's position was the following. legal, you have left them joint and we'll wait it out. what early in the front of the
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mother? yes, i can. that's easy. in cal, it's not easy. if it works out well, we can use it to our advantage. if it turns out badly, then we had nothing to do with it much that are either so last time we spoke we um, we shared with you uh, some of the exams are found by the tablets, other locations or the tablets. um. can you tell us why you manage to find the yes, we ran all the names and code names of wagner fighters thought to have been in libya through a database. the database was compiled by ukrainian volunteers during fighting an eastern ukraine in 20142015. the that we were able to identify 2 or 3 of the fighters on the triple lima by it's all about is feeding it back of the 3 kinds of people you. oh wow. that's amazing. are you able to share with me
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one of the identities on in the chat? so can have a look which is which we now know that this is dimitri, but on se was born in 1993 is code name, so lank. that makes sense. and it's the name of a river and body odds here in the russian. far east of them is weird. see, he's from buddy up to you and that explains his code name. do you want me to see if it's available for you? his personnel number shows, he's one of the 1st people that joined bog down in the, in the mid, those with numbers up to 3000 are those who went to fight 6 years ago in ukraine's united issue. they went through syria and they're now in africa. and choose to the earliest the thank you, looking at his birth date is about 28 years old. so that means he started fights and providing there at the start of his twenty's. yes, judging from his age,
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he probably completed his national service. then the crane conflict started, that's how he got involved. you'd be doing sort of the pacific on which we stood. or what if i've sent you another link in the chat this about pretty soon the, this is the day and, and me, it's kim at telephone as they door and tray of it. i hope i pronounced that correctly. well, it's more of how the code name meddler made me to the meta, exactly a short version of his surname and just to kind of show now if you will find me what information i have you minutes together about this guy. he's significantly older than foot on soft over $35.00. judging from his personal number, he also joins wagner, 5 or 6 years ago, during the fighting and the eastern new crane by you being the best i can, can i, you know, and yeah. so seeing this interesting picture of this guy was
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a big tattoo, eunice, and it's just, um, any idea of what is taught to means? yes, i see it's a son we'll, he's probably some kind of nazi or nazi identity is a common thing. amongst baggers, social's. yes, there are some. so do you have um is that a phobic believes in? i don't think they care if they fight in muslim countries or anywhere else. they started out finding an orthodox ukraine and that didn't seem to matter. i don't think religion is the main thing here. use news, news, news, news. world news was to be an option. what was it that attracted you to the organization? didn't give money? what do you mean? you know, the people on the bus to catch the but of i'd already been
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a volunteer fighter and done boss in ukraine able to go they need to. but i don't want to keep away in the i no longer believe in the romance of war certificate by not. i knew the reality. so get onto the website. yeah. i just needed the money to junior, which this did we, when did the talk about going to libya start? did you believe that it's going to show we started talking about it early on whenever there's some kind of armed conflict. wagner soldiers talk about it. luckily, i'm not sure and good. you could go to this one. that could be one for us. i was the to the political when the door but almost of cause a standalone and get a, it's a contract that the thing, every contract and every country means money is sitting at the company without a contract, no money. so can you do that, or what is the pricing to the premium? how many wagner people were deployed in libya?
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and believe me. yeah, as my brother i know about 2 units and they were replaced by another to me. i knew about them. so if you have some dogs at the school, how many, many union members, i don't know exactly around a 1000, i can get the some with the friends and get into these each i so that's what a i some, i have a tablet that we got from one of the wagner locations on my equipment, on a month to buy them, their forces are in red. yours are in blue. the let me see how the i was stationed here. the confounded river now and when you were stationed there, yes, 50 the enemy knew precisely where you were or how does that deal with the mother? and the show the it's
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a strange feeling to think that they tracked all our movements. obviously already been well enough for them to come to me too. if you find out that was the wagner position, we've located whether this is one of our positions and that's partners, whether the conveyor cannot be for far enough, or the offense, a trench, anything in existence. how are they able to locate you is so precisely and go to the doctor and they monitored us with small drones. the home number 5, the front of the identifying some of the wagner menu were fighting. would you like to know who they were? their name is on the pictures on them, a smart home our so on the ticket so that the, this is one of the point saved on the tablet that's it's named after one of the man municipal $150.00 is called meddler as well. so that was our position as an estimate of cameron or his full name is said, or on
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a tell can i was born in 1984 which makes sent on 37 about that i think the center as a sort of that's his picture. this is one of the guys who were fighting off in se hoodie, it feels weird. a lot of our studies much older than you send them before are these are lives in the amount of supposed to sure. our guys are 21 years old. so that's a huge difference that it can be a really my, any effects of where the and boost it says that it means that they were fighting well trained russians all older than 30 and then and no can as close to the man. and i, for one whom i don't imagine what the battles would have been like if our people had been the same age. most of you keep canyon and i said, hey, cool the
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this does, it shouldn't go get with you man. you have just, i mean, i served for a long time in the organization in syria for going to us these get them when you, when the libya campaign star table. i didn't want to take as far as the learn you does a not in syria so many but, and definitely not in libya way of leaving the lease. you know, just, well, i took part in the storming of palmera, but again, you and you've to meet for the liberation of the oil field school because how many of them died? and i'm always glad you asked me too many weeks, you know, put up the numbers. ok. we know that one of their primary re minutes was to protect the pulmonary tow mirror area. that area is really the
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parts of oil and gas production in, in syria. we saw spreadsheets with, you know, millions and millions of roubles being transferred in exchange for providing infrastructure, security and perimeter, security and securing the oil and gas facilities. and the wagner group would get a portion of the take from, from the production. basically, the draft of the contract became public in early 2018. the 2 partners were allegedly, the syrian government and a russian company. as real posies. the russian company not only appear to profit from the gas and oil production, but was also apparently connected to the wagner group in libya. what's been at stake there are, you know, both oil um delivery from the ports as well as gas production facilities in that
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sort of been gauzy area. and then, you know, going, you know, south and east word we're haft are, is, is prevalent. the wagner mercenaries are sought to have taken up positions and key libyan oil fields. after the assault on tripoli, a contorted, nope. i think that's 3 statues. honor the wagner brooks. don't think we play music . one shows a soldier protecting a child is sick. if the artist had been honest and the soldier would be protecting an oil the last quarter, well and you've to move with go is that i am the sort of general. how do i look at all of this guns? most people say, well, many serious crimes committed during the civil war. many were forced out of the system to household. i mean,
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given the 340 was under siege, my know in the people were severely impacted us mentally and financially as outcome . the homes were destroyed in that position. stone and many died in this will approach children and women. one piece of the mother, she had the gloves. buckner mercenaries committed a heinous crime against the family and espia to 3 of those of them on the future that that was, should be in september. we were in this house and s b a on september 23rd 2019. so it was 3 o'clock in the afternoon on joining us that i think that we were about to go back to our other farm poplar. we met an armed group on the road and they started shooting in the air. the image ma am and 6 or 7 mercenaries entered the house and they were foreigners, and it was clear they were from the wagner group left soon uh
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they put hoods over our heads, but we could still see a little that can know you and mr. hope you a component, they put us in a car, a nissan or a suzuki. and then they took us to cause there's been garcia, would have found that it goes civil, that she has residents secretly film the videos that showed the faces of loc, now mercenaries and libya. for the 1st time on the side i'm so level was at 5 or 6 am they put us in the back of the nissan of then they took us to the neighbor's house and how is it that it had an out building and its 6 am they lined us up their side by side. when it went to
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a 100 was vision, i was at one end. i'm sure what about numbers, but when one of them drew his gun home can and i knew he was going to shoot limits had this that how does that mean if it a few nights cell and pretended to be dead, but it's been months madness them as well and the muslims, it was dark and i like kind of, the family was lined up along this goals and i'm going to tell you that some of the so let's see if this is where the wagner man committed their crime. got definitely been hickey. i waited about 5 minutes until they left the room and i heard the car leaving the other 2 must come into the waters. my father and brother and brother in law were all dead. how does that does to can you describe any of the people who fired at you? we want to find the know, so what are your thoughts on a so i sort of this one was outside the supermarket and this via the show was involved and stuff like enough and it's kind of heavy. well, you know, not him,
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but it's similar types and much more. one of them is from the far east stuff the far east. yes. so in other words, i'm sort of, could you recognize him? yes. this is this, tim. do you recognize him? no, that's him. less than the stuff had a so and did you have the same hair cut? next? yes. what sonus are you up as not? his name is glad you made an announcement. so what are your aliases? my alias is tobacco. greetings to my wife, my mother and my daughter, and my friends, and the republican for out you. when seems to be some of a good that he was born in 1978 and the blue book is code name is rebecca. see, he was in syria and, and libya the at the was accused of killing prisoners will be about. but in, he was allegedly involved in the execution of ukrainian soldiers. and william,
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that's a little issue. ukrainian activists are tracking wagner mercenaries to find an eastern new crane. we've had enough to mention that since we believe we have us to complain, they've identified his last known location of seen as north africa uh, nova ellicott sable. it the save it in there. often it comes with anthem, but this is disputed by voc as friends on social media update so that you will come and you of course welcome to me. believe you they say he's alive and well at home point in body, etc. i don't know where to is it, what was that all we we were unable to contact and i deem it undone of the so you have to keep it. is it just look, i mean, those are the took each president send recently the 2000 involved in a mess and res, we're in libya. miami. uh no. you want me to go uh like
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a company box enough. i mean, they've, russian citizens are there, then they're not acting on the orders of the russian state, and they're not getting money from the russian state police here. it's almost like a little though i talk a little so you can ask full team as many questions as we like to use the we've heard many answers, but nothing makes sense. i hear and we'll see if it's clear that without state support a company like that could never exist outside of north of for example, like when you've got personnel and equipment being transported in defense, ministry, plains use some of or in russian navy, cargo planes to syria. for example, here's the thing that i see the, the something to collaborate ever a flock and i see the libyan army attacked
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wagner positions. and so that a dean south of tripoli, in february 2020. the government forces received military support from turkey, which helped to turn the tide against wagner. the group had been trying to find fresh supplies, the visa requests for military equipment. they were sent just a week after president pretend denied supporting russian mercenaries in libya. the . ready the
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professing is immediately obvious, having had a look at this equipment request list is that now primarily russian manufactured and produced weapons. these are not weapons of easily available ass on the open market. the 272, they are ordering has probably been upgraded. i wouldn't say sites with yeah, it's probably at least some of the latest equipment on it. this isn't a unit that is content to go into the field with seconds ready to quit. if there was one type of weapon that jumps out to you as probably the most advanced thing, or, you know, new point of view, the most interesting part would it be? there's one piece of equipment that stands out here and it's a particular right of the state to deal. and that radars task will be to collide analyze electronic signals intelligence over a much wide the area. so that kind of leads one to assess that pos of this unit may
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well be feeding intelligence fading electronic intelligence up to a higher level. who do you think that might be for in order to be able to approve this kind of way? is obviously someone, well connected, hire either politically or militarily within the bag in a group. and clearly some of them with extremely good access and my interpretation to the russian government the to do these look like genuine documents and independent. that's absolutely no doubt about it. about the profile, the, you know, who signed this 9 is the code name for mr. wagner, or mr. who can, who can himself the
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imagery in was once a part of a russian special forces unit. he's code name wagner. because of his admiration for the nazis who appropriated the music of the german composer, the boot can is thought to be the founder and commander of the wagner group. there's because got to, here's a clue, company and you have a company abriel police. unless any, most of it was active and oil producing areas in syria. seen this or did you do this? this information is about radio communication equipment, boston battle. i had that as piece. and these are receipts for radios made out by field commanders who took part in the attack on tripoli. to be as a little bit just in the media reports,
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link police to businessman, east gainey precaution political and he's known the russian president vladimir putin for a long time. there's been some of the media call. the importance chef on zillow. gave me those people, but i'm the moscow november 2018. the footage of general have to us visit to the russian defense ministry. the among those present the you have guinea, pre goes the flyer. thank you for supporting the libyan people. and for your a in our fight against terrorism, the general hosta launched his assault on tripoli just 5 months later. i. so you're getting for gordon a is
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a well known russian oligarch who for many, many years was very close to the put in routine. but he is under sanction now by the united states. and so are his businesses, the pacific you but a senior, these documents are addressed to a general director just who could that be the most. and with the most, i think the general director is you have any per goshen. we applied for the the, the list that's interesting. what kind of the thing here, but i sure if they're writing to the general director that goes in as a businessman, he runs restaurants on you know what they need to pay for the steam commute, but here they say they need tanks, don't they seem to 121 thing i forgot to talk to that means that the russian army is a serious organization. and to get a tank, you have to at least negotiate with someone as high as a general director. so it's like you're not gonna affect the minimum of
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a regular company commander. it can't just go and pick up a tank whenever he needs one or more to play. keeps that thought this name will move them precaution. can you help me? i think so. they're not just writing these letters for funding the they want to attack the pollution of the quote to ordinary soldiers, say a bad precaution with the cook. dislike in harry potter, where no one is allowed to say the name voldemort will email. it's a taboo subject. it's better not to mention at the lights, or you might end up in a metal box with a messed up face for 2 weeks that you like i was a video and i'm convenient. it sounds good to me. it's only because you guys don't . why don't you didn't use it in the heat and a metal container that so with a messed up face. if you have any pre goals and spokesman denies
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any connection between pre goshen and everett police as well as any human rights abuses committed by russian citizens in libya at 11 15 am this morning here un headquarters in geneva to, to live in delegations signs a complete country wide and permanent cease fire agreement with immediate effect. the parties agreed that all military units and armed groups on the front lines shall return to their camp. the shelby, accompanied by the departure of all mercenaries and foreign fighters from all libyan territories within a maximum period of 3 months from today. so so, so, so, so, so our other says, all the units have left their mark on tripoli in the form of mines and booby traps
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around the problem. the words danger mines are written on this wall. well yeah, an arrow shows where they are logging in on that. well there at least 3 children have died in this neighborhood of 3 children. that's why they're yes, from families that came back. i sort of see how to kick difficult to mines. you're always worried that you could lose someone you'd want to come in the reports, say, thousands of foreign fighters remain in libya, including members of the wagner group, the
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