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my name is dora da. com investigated. i'm 34 years old. i've been imprisoned for 10 years and 6 months. second, the abortion is a crime. thanks to our constitution and some of the world. and so one of the few countries that bands abortions, in all cases,
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the human rights organizations take advantage of women's lack of education and through forced propaganda and lies. they make them murderers of their unborn daughters and sons. it's a cruel act. it's a barbaric act. the is, but i said it was the 13th of july, 2007 to identity and a name. and i was 9 months pregnant is that i was working at the central san
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salvador and the pain was unbearable to them. i tell you when i started making calls me the settling, my baby is about to be born and i said, i can stand the pain. come help me those separately. so many of the police said they would come right. but they never did know you that the we, i went to look into my baby was born there and then i fainted. the look at when i woke up and i tried to get help. the why did you kill the man?
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asked me for me. i haven't killed anyone. i said the epic assembly said yes, you've killed your daughter. now you have to pay the time anyway. i took and passing out. i'm acquainted. okay. i just remember waking up and then fainting again. i was almost dead. the endorses i've been imprisoned ever since the middle of the 1st they said it was an abortion. when they changed it to aggravated homicide, they sentenced me to 30 years. the when, when the door opened, i didn't want to look inside of it in the event, but in the community,
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i didn't want to talk to anyone. okay, i cannot. i didn't want anyone talking to me just he had an enemy living. i wanted my baby, but i'd already bought clothes for her that that it was so excited. let me see if the machine's women sleep on the floor at 1st. as well as left on the floor for 7 months. and as i used to live there crying for now and staring at the wall, wondering would i be able to leave the club? and when the truth would come out, the thing, and i was afraid that i would never get out again. i thought i see i won't survive . i'm going to die your money in a moment with the zip we really could do for the hearing in january 2008. i didn't have a lawyer to defend me to see if my parents had given a lawyer,
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$700.00 to take my case and guess maybe damage. he demanded that they give him land cattle house and the car by the name of the gentleman that allow me to my parents, asked me if they should give him the house. but i couldn't leave them on the street . so i decided not to have a lawyer. i prefer to stay in prison longer if it meant my parents and my son would still have a place to live, as you gave me by that as an equal to the the, i don't know how the years went by. and my son grew up without me. you were going to send me 5 is that my parents were always worried because they
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didn't have money to visit me. i was 21 and i was born one day when he was 3 years old. i got pregnant again. what's the name was to me and i was very excited because i wanted to have 2 children. the and okay. my kid instead of what i want most just to be with on her gabrielle. you know, coming, but i missed the best of his childhood. no, i loved him more than ever. mac and i loved him from the day he was born and we loved him until the day i die and the with delta care, but they disappeared. the
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popping in a portion goes against their nature against their maternal instincts, against their own interests. after an abortion women suffer clinical depression. but this kind of depression is important. these women have killed girls and boys who have the right to live. the other one might just any more, had more than 3000 women live in the prison and thinking they don't even have a bed or a blanket to sleep under the yeah, there's no running water. the fact that the food is terrible, and i mean they're only 6 toilets for all these women. jewelry, i'm with a company. i met many other inmates and never realized they were in prison on
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similar charges. i thought i was alone. but i wasn't they don't know it. i think we realize there were many women accused of the same crime. today we were already friends, but we hadn't talked about our cases them on board for so fast, fund them in ahead. i think that when they said 30 years, my 1st thought was not screwing up. i supplement, i've lost everything to be the thought of me, but i haven't seen my daughter since i've been here. but the thing was that i, i don't know how she's doing. i know nothing when i saw i had a fight with the father of my 1st daughter, she was 9 years old, dominion was saying i was 4 months pregnant and that's what they hit me and the baby died. i started bleeding a lot. my daughter saw me later last time that i just remember that i was given an injection in the hospital and they put me on a bed, but that's all for me. uh,
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that's it. then i woke up around 7 in the evening. i was handcuffed and many of them they told me not to ask questions and to stay where i was thinking that i was alone in the room. but in the mail on the day of my hearing, there was no evidence against me. they only the testimony of one witness, the dna test. in the end, who was the witness. my daughter's father who hit you yesterday and you couldn't no federal since the prosecutor was on their side, they didn't allow me lawyer to speed dials and many. and i don't know a lot of them, they didn't allow my father to speak bible man, and i don't, he was my only witness. and it's like that on the bottom. i've been here for almost 11 years and they sent him speech authority. what happened to you? nicholas? i was accused of aggravated homicide. yes, dinah, i was at the hospital a different one there,
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but i also why i was handcuffed for them and they said i was charged with murder. not telling me that i have killed my own door. so let me ask, i have a show. okay, no, no, no, no, you want. i filled down, it was an accident that fell off my office about my daughter a 100 and they didn't let me see her thing and them. and i can sit on the need a many you don't they all. anyway, i did. it was going to be a i didn't understand what was happening and because i haven't seen it, he said, but and did it the doctor's blame. you don't dis called the police or the photo. ok . i am. i don't have that in there, but i didn't understand you didn't give me an explanation. so they took me to the
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police station and i went up salinas. i was there for about 8 days. then they brought me here. james, i had on the one of my daughters is 15 years old and the other is 12 going in. but i got pregnant after being raped by 3 men. and i'm one of them was my brother. he went to me, my wife, after my mother died. i lost my baby 20 days later, i was arrested during my baby's funeral. i think i mentioned this. you said what the sailor policeman were standing at the door of the church? i asked them, why are you looking for me again? and they said my name and i said yes, that's me. they said you're under a risk for murder. are i asked why they didn't kill anyone? they took my baby's body out of the coffin and threw it in the back of the pickup
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truck. they took my baby and they took me to say, i know when i left my 2 daughters behind my parents were no longer there to take care of them. so i didn't want to leave them with my brother, the one who had hurt me. my brother and his friends have their families. while my daughters are suffering from any age and they're having a hard time on their own. and i'm suffering without them. seeing your sister, serious life has been really hard on me in that regard. and that's a good he has to sort out my thoughts. so if i'm the only one, maybe they just got it wrong. it was maybe they just made a mistake. try to thank god it was to me to find out when i learned that there were more of us, i got very angry. think it would be when to say,
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because it means that l salvador sees women as property having in the more, you know, set them up vista stand up to them. where is the best in this? it has to be as low as allow them to route over us in the last young gomez and that's of interest on what happened. we cannot allow women to continue to be imprisoned for pregnancy emergencies entails to not do anything about this situation. we're in now. that'd be the end of us to set up with some of the, in the we've quite strong relationships. we've decided to unite and defend ourselves. and as a mentors to get by the general familiars with the citizens group for the criminalization of abortion t and in 2012. and after that they called us to 17 time of the way that we agreed that they would take on our cases. a few met and that the 1st of us to come out of prison by whatever means for that it would be the 1st to denounce the conditions inside prisoners yet and especially of the families and eventually found
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at the moment. okay. the investors told us they needed this folks person to represent us when the girls chose me to play that's how it all started. these days are special for each one of us. we know we are in prison, but we have our spiritual freedom the see. yeah, i didn't that i see the bill or in see side about a typical him. this is we saw so it was 17 women. now there are more of that is 2009. we have identified a 129 cases in one hand. difficult the in addition to political lobbying mobilization, i'm campaigning now. the citizens group has
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a legal team that follows off on cases payments. or if the cases are not just going in the court room, they all want in the streets and looking them on the go to the a, b s m l m party present to the penal code reform to decriminalize abortion level because the state, the lawyers. so they don't dine these conditions on is while i'm president of the legislative assembly loading opinion, i presented the bill alongside women's groups and request that the sale for a little bit of a will not be unless you win as a result of break. when the mother's life is at risk when it's a result of human trafficking and when the case involves a minor so that that, that they may notice they are, those are pretty madison was. it seems to contradict the 2nd article of the constitution and frightening the right to life of every person. and you know that a choice of either as they last, but as soon as they faced with the pressure from social organizations to decriminalize abortion. the catholic church, i objected to these measures,
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i think has to be archbishop, called on the legislature, not to change the penal code was on us. that's all the because you'll have to go, they go up and not, some of them will come out because if we can't take a look at the percentages for them, the width of the members of the legislature will see that if they vote to legalize the portion they would be going against the vast majority of the population field, which is christian. yeah, collect, also you can see on the constitution says that life begins at the moment of conception. so i don't see why abortion should be judged less severely than aggravated homicide. i've come across from the changing the charges via leads due process. they're trying to impose longer sentences. abortion carries a sentence of 2 to 8 years in philadelphia also to learn a lot more credit. the class in the middle or upper class women who have more money have $2.00 options and in the future they go to a private clinic and pay over $1000.00 for an abortion, for they go abroad for the procedure would have been by you. so don't de larry,
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i lose. so i would ask kind of went back and look that out. murder is now considered a human right to my mother's right. i don't know that this isn't the ideological relativism. that for me, as a politician is an ideological upfront to the west of america and its citizens and pick on that. i'm ready. got going to ask you, this is the largest genocide in human history and much greater than the one carried out during the 2nd world. war and say when the others, but again, if you're not already selling partner states, he has not reviewed cases of miscarriages that have led to women's imprisonment. the main thing and customer, that's not what it does when it comes to miscarriages. no woman is being persecuted for having a miscarriage. what are the best one of the time, you know, woman should go to jail for having an abortion? the a frequent fact of what i understand and that's enough because i
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was contacted by amnesty international ever taking this case will bundle. so let me know exclusively handle cases like this and see how that i could leave it as essential for justice to charge against a dora was aggravated homicide. you see major contradictions here to me. i can tell and i've, you know, went up a so another thing of the killing of a newborn same thing. 13 to 14 weeks gestation, female who was born alive, but died of parent natal 6, you know, fix up late enough that is signs of a 6 year by drowning were found. she loved it because you born died of parent a to let's fix you. she could not have died by drowning somebody. these things are mutually exclusive film every day to let's fix it as a natural cause of death and up to that it cannot be one on the other at the same time. of course, i mean with the, i don't think the judges even read the autopsy of talk to you from the la city and the when i read to dora's file,
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which is very extensive. and then i must admit, i saw this woman is guilty by the file intentionally, leads you to believe that she is guilty to that correctly, but it does happen to fun. but when you sit down and read it more carefully, you wonder how is it possible that a woman who wants to have an abortion calls the police 5 times to ask them for help here? ok, this is the minute the lord. he cried. the medical evidence is conclusive in member of the she had a pre term birth certificate that i sent all of our option with heavy bleeding and lost consciousness, especially for medical history is consistent with the information. she provided a many cs to saying, but i saw i wouldn't 9 months pregnant misses i was robbed when i was on my way to send salvador with my sick mother and am when i was well done, the bus isn't that on the internet, the man tried to steal my phone and jumped towards me. so i'm gonna send the landing right on my belly say in the midst of
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the blow to the abdomen. and the final trimester can cause plus central abrupt sion, which was probably the case with to dora. because when the baby came, the plus center came with it for those and because of the injury to the abdomen. this is the most logical conclusion to your door, like many others with stigmatized and convicted without evidence to look at. if you provo instigate an abortion, that is if you give the patient the idea or assist her in any way and you're also go to prison for 2 to 5 years. and that's why health care workers report everything to the police, miscarriages, or still birds, that they report any kind of termination of pregnancy and having so this has massaging stigmatization and persecution for being a woman. okay. so it's a woman has a miscarriage. the 1st thing people think is that it was intentional or said when a woman becomes pregnant,
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she loses all her rights and automatically becomes an incubator. all her rights are violated, starting with the right to life, live related to the stomach, which on the police, i mean, we are fighting for this error to be corrected, but the judges, after 6 months of fighting court of appeals agreed to review the case. one does have the best. yeah. i don't think, i don't think that's the current status. it's just almost like the boss. all know that the advice on the radio and we'd like to invite you to join us tomorrow. it's an important thing that we need to suppose of all of us that will be gathering in front of the see the room, and then there's quotes to support here to allow to hearing apple. yeah. and the app, the app is a crucial day for her. and she needs just the so it'd be the from 7 am in front of
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the courthouse to show your support and her sight to regain have freedom the
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familiarity. what's your family's health? is the percentage of the pay for what i would like is for her son to have his mother's love with any of them he has had to live with his grandparent or not. his mother does somebody, we'll pray to god that the case will be resolved and she will get her freedom back . let us down even she's been oppressed for so long and unable to take care of her son that may possibly help. it goes back to the faulty investigation. the facts are all there. if the system based on your investigation is the innocent or guilty made of a fuse, that's for the judges to decide based on the evidence in the mind. just presenting evidence, i think. what is that going on so that so many other pro, instead of $23.00 of us are accused of this crime that we did not commit
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a claim to him from a data from us. and how were these years in prison knowing you were innocent and been very difficult beneficial. i based hard times in prison because i'm paying for a crime. i didn't commit to the mental goodness. i mean, what is your message to the world into countries where abortion is still criminal lives with the city. my message is to review all the cases of women who have been convicted of a crime similar to mine. same and that we did not commit these crimes. we need our freedom back because it's our right look at them. it isn't that we have a right to freedom. that is they have violated our freedom to do with that. not so not only my freedom, but of many women and it doesn't, the state did not support us but discriminated against us as women federal. but we have the strength and courage to keep fighting here. but if they get
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a chance to review it, or what are you asking from the judges? like i said, i'm going to give me back my freedom. gimme a question. i'm going to with that because i am innocent. split kate. because i have a family to fight for. now if i mean the can you check such a thing because i have people who love me and need me to be with them. that's all, it's the
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different kind of most of the 30 year sentence was upheld political similar to how can the prosecutor say she killed without evidence of this kind of justice is not justice as i'll see you and i was present and that was easy.
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the was set up with this situation. we've had enough of the violence against women people of the. 2 world police reports of salvatore. we are becoming more and more impoverished, but we are not pool. we on congress by the patriarchal capitalist system, the we women will keep fighting. this is an injustice. the
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flower arrangement was given to the legislature by a group of activists and family members of women in prison for health complications that lead to miscarriage. that as for clemency for 17 women who were sentenced to prison terms of up to 40 years,
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they were found guilty of aggravated homicide. and see if it is a distress signal from amnesty international in el salvador ocean is for the selling. it is a country that has some of the wealth strictest abortion laws just have delayed a ruling on whether to free a woman who was sentenced to 30 years in prison after she gave birth to a still born baby to human rights organizations are calling for an end to well sounds, it was totally banned from abortion funding. i will got a young lawyer came and gave me a paper and said meet or maybe you have to smoke, read this step with and then your sentence has been reduced to the time you've already spent. here one dentist had left. i do see the sample for you and i find that in pretending i took the paper and started reading. i'm so as though it said that i was absolved and the point of assessing that i thought this can't be true. here's the point. my sentence was just upheld, asking them,
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but i read it again and again, 1000 times to make sure it understood. i know that i completed the when i was informed that i was free, i read out the letter with the other girls that they were trying. we loved each other in here, the canal can what we're family the, what the thought is. the main thing is that we stuck together because together we can break down the walls that surround us. the they know that my leaving here is a door opening for them to with them. i can say i have it but a the, the
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morning. thank you for being here on said that the ministry of justice and security has approve the commutation of the sentence of miss taylor to investigate, reducing it from 30 years to 10 years and 7 months day pay it or investigate as walks free of a 2nd chance of life and thank you for coming. the
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didn't recognize anyone's and not even my siblings or my nephew's.
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the not going to see i didn't recognize anyone. could see the yes indeed, it was a long day, but it wasn't even tired. but i was free, but afraid to face life nobody i could. i couldn't believe that he called me mamma. is the same for the sale of your machine. and i still wasn't used to the idea that i had a teenage son, and he wasn't used to the idea that he had a young mother. yeah, let's just say that the name of the mother holding me for the simple
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good. but a look for him. my mother was his mother and she has to mothers the indian so you're sending me. but in the day i got out and i felt so much happiness . yeah. yeah. can you see that? but at any moment missing, but also like i was split into the semester, like when a part of the one part of me wanted to get out of it and the other was afraid to leave the women behind to hang and just as a minimum, they told me, we will also be freed. i mean the, me to have it, but i felt bad that i'd gotten lucky and they hadn't the 7th day then of the savvy, i guess if i knew the march 8th protest existed in, but i didn't know the extent of it. my 1st time there
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was unforgettable. the intensity and with it made me think when, when i'm not alone, i'm stronger. i will join them, you know, so we speak with one voice. hello, salvatore and people sisters. and all of you who are here today today is a very important day for all of us. i am very happy and grateful. your struggle was
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worth it. i am the living proof. i am here to join you in sight alongside you to free the other incarcerated women. i invite each and every one of you to stand together and keep on fighting. because the site does not stop here, we will take on everyone who comes because we're fighters. we will not be silent. we are women who will face anything that comes our way, the hello framing. how are you? i'm very proud of you and my i'm so happy about all the effort you're putting in on our behalf. god bless you. take care of your son, your family. i love you very much and i hope to or out there with you one day soon . they're sending you lots of kisses and hugs. i love you very much the
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semester so that it's been less than 2 months since i regained my freedom. so this i just, i will never get back those 10 years of my life. i had a co pay that, but that's my pass to get somebody to the me percent. i'm living my present now in the sending and campaigning for the women who are still in prison. thought of yet at the latest. i'm writing my voice on their behalf. either the key i am calling on the legislative assembly of el salvador to speed up the process of commuting their sentences,
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battled and put pressure on the government of el salvador to release these 24 women being what there are still 24 women in prison facing enormous difficulties to keep fighting after 10 years in prison is not only extraordinary. it takes great courage to have the common us cuz you on inspiration to us the, the
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people don't understand the reality of women. the worst thing is that women who live in the countryside in small villages are the most vulnerable. no woman who has money is in prison. not one believe me. graham and we are guilty because we are women. we have no rights. from the moment we get pregnant, our lives don't matter. what matters is to feed us, we're carrying the mother's health doesn't matter. only the child. imagine a 12 year old girl going to school for future still ahead of her. if she gets raped and pregnant, she will be forced to have the child just because of our last. i believe this is unjust. we must raise our voices and say what we feel and think about this issue. the
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way let them. i wanted to see them, but i didn't think you'd be possible in the printer for many years. it was good to come back and visit the prison to see everyone and say that i am here to meet at historic i support you and will be with you no matter what the list had caused them to let in good times and bad. sam, when i'll be there with that good
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