tv Convicted of Murder Deutsche Welle September 28, 2023 2:15pm-3:01pm CEST
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from the sole one to sonic speed in 2014. and the last 2 years, they have begun to return and re families again. now this disaster has chickens, the community to the core you're up to date of next are documentary series. dock film looks at el salvador, strict anti abortion in most states you and for that, it's after a short break and i'll be back again at the top of the next hour until then take care the shuttle, the color and key move people them on the world wide and such a bed. nearby, facile jessica middle castle, josh. find out about robina story. info, migraines, the pin number. my
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is that i was working at a central san salvador. and the pain was unbearable to them. i think when i started making calls me the suddenly my baby is about to be born and i said, i can stand the pain. come help me those separately. so many of the police said they would come right. but they never did know you that the we have to look into my baby was born there and then germany. i fainted. the 2nd when i woke up and i tried to get help the why did you kill her and asked me, i haven't killed anyone. i said the applicant, you said yes,
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you killed your daughter. now you have to pay the i don't, i didn't mind. i kept passing out and i just remember waking up and then same thing again. i was almost at the end doses i've been imprisoned ever since the middle of the 1st they said it was an abortion. when they changed it to aggravated homicide, they sentenced me to 30 years. the when, when the door opened, i didn't want to look inside. didn't put any of it, but it in the community. i didn't want to talk to anyone.
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i didn't want anyone talking to me just to be at a minimum of and i wanted my baby, but i'd already bought clothes for her that that was so excited. they're me sitting missy's women, sleep on the floor at 1st get out as left on the floor for 7 months. and as i used to live there crying now and staring at the wall, wondering when i'd be able to leave the club. and when the truth would come out, the biggest thing i was afraid that i would never get out again. i saw it. i see i won't survive. i'm going to die your money. in animal mental evidence of the hearing in january 2008. i didn't have a lawyer to defend me. if my parents had given a lawyer, $700.00 to take my case,
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he demanded that they give him land cattle, a house, and a car. i finally made a gentleman that allow me to my parents asked me if they should give him the house, but i couldn't leave them on the street. so i decided not to have a lawyer. i prefer to stay in prison longer. if it meant my parents and my son would still have a place to live, or you gave me status in need with the the, i don't know how the years went by. and my son grew up without me being able to stand by this. my parents were always worried because they
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didn't have money to visit me. i was 21 and i was born when he was 3 years old, i got pregnant again. what's the name was to me and i was very excited because i wanted to have 2 children the it okay. my kid instead of what i want most just to be with on her gabrielle. you know coming but i missed the best of his childhood. no, i loved him more than ever, mac and i loved him from the day he was born and we loved him until the day i die. and they came with delta care, but they disappeared. the
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having an abortion goes against their nature against their maternal instincts, against their own interest. after an abortion women suffer clinical depression. but this kind of depression is important. these women have killed girls and boys who have the right to live. the other one might need more head, more than 3000 women live in the prison. and that kind of, they don't even have a bed or a blanket to sleep under. no. yeah, there's no running water. the fact that the food is terrible. i mean, they're only 6 toilets for all these women. jewelry. i'm with a company. i met many other inmates. i never realized they were in prison on
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similar charges. i thought i was alone, but it wasn't they don't know it. i think we realize there were many women accused of the same crime today we were already friends, but we hadn't talked about our cases them on board for so fast, fund them in ahead. i think that when they said 30 years, my 1st thought was not screwing up. i supplement, i've lost everything. the thought of me, i haven't seen my daughter since i've been here. the thing was that i don't know how she's doing. i know nothing the do when i was down, i had a fight with the father of my 1st daughter. she was 9 years old, dominion was saying i was 4 months pregnant and that's what they hit me. and the baby died. i started bleeding a lot. my daughter saw me later last time that i just remember that i was given an injection in the hospital and they put me on a bed, but that's all for me. uh,
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that's it. then i woke up around 7 in the evening. i was handcuffed. they told me not to ask questions and to stay where i was thinking that i was alone in the room . but indiana, on the day of my hearing, there was no evidence against me. they only the testimony of one witness. the dna test, people in the end who was the witness. my daughter's father who hit you yesterday and you couldn't no federal since the prosecutor was on their side. they didn't allow me lawyer to speak the name. i don't know if i love it. i'm. they didn't allow my father to speak bible man, and i don't, he was my only witness. and it's like that on the bottom. i've been here for almost 11 years and they sent him speech authority. what happened to you? nicholas? i was accused of aggravated homicide. yes, dinah, i was at the hospital
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a problem there. if i ask why i was handcuffed for them and they said i was charged with murder telling me that i have killed my own door. so mc asked, i have a show. okay, no, no, no, no, you know what? i filled down. it was an accident that fell off my almost about my daughter a me had and they didn't let me see her thing. and i'm going to sit on the need a many, you know, they all knew why i did it was going to be a, i didn't understand what was happening and, and because i haven't seen him and he said, but, and did it, the doctor's blame. you don't dis called the police or the photo. ok, i am. i don't have them and send them. i didn't understand
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you didn't give me an explanation. so they took me to the police station and i went up some yes, i was there for about 8 days. then they brought me here. james, i had on black and then when i'm in america, one of my daughters is 15 years old and the other is 12 funny. but i got pregnant after being raped by 3 men and i'm one of them was my brother. he went to me, my wife, after my mother died, i lost my baby. 20 days later, i was arrested during my baby's funeral. i think i mentioned this. you said what the sailor policeman were standing at the door of the church? i asked them, why are you looking for me again? and they said my name. i said yes, that's me. they said you are under a risk for murder. i asked why they didn't kill anyone. they took my baby's body
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out of the coffin and threw it in the back of the pickup truck. they took my baby and they took me to the home. i left my 2 daughters behind. my parents were no longer there to take care of them. i didn't want to leave them with my brother, the one who had hurt me. my brother and his friends have their families. while my daughters are suffering from any age. and 2nd, they're having a hard time on their own. and i'm suffering without the senior for serious life has been really hard on me in that regard. and that's a good. yeah. she's sort of my thoughts. so if i'm the only one, maybe they just got it wrong. maybe they just made a mistake. try to thank god it was 2 minutes a vendor. yet when i learned that there were more of us, i got very angry. think it would be when to say,
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because it means that el salvador sees women as property, having in the more, you know, set them up as the stand up to them. where is the best in this? it has to be the laws, allow them to rule over us in the last, you can go ahead and ask them to send this one out, but we cannot allow women to continue to be imprisoned for pregnancy emergencies in sales to not do anything about this situation. we're in that at the end of us to separate them will be in the we've quite strong relationships. we've decided to unite and defend ourselves. and as a mentor, sit by the lawyers with the citizens group for the the criminalization of abortion team in 2012. and we're headed out loud. they called us to 17 them with the way that we agreed that they would take on our cases. and that the 1st of us to come out of prison medic, by whatever madison ordinance would be the 1st to denounce the conditions inside to present the status of the surface, thomas. and eventually for the moment the
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master's told us they needed just looks person to represent us when the girls chose me to play that's how it all started. these days are special for each one of us. we know we are in prison, but we had our spiritual freedom the see. yeah, i didn't that. i see the bill or and she thought about, i said go ahead. this is we started with 17 women. now there are more of the systems, 2009. we have identified a $129.00 cases and will have difficult the owner. but in addition to political lobbying mobilization, i'm campaigning. the citizens group has
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a legal team that follows up on cases payments. or if the cases are not just going in the court room, they all want in the streets and looking them on the go to the a, b s m l m party present to the penal code reform to decriminalize abortion level because the state, the lawyers. so they don't dine these conditions on is without president of the legislative assembly loading opinion presented the bill alongside women's groups. that request when the last you win is the result. the break when the mother's life is at risk when it's a result of human trafficking and when the case involves a minor. so set that out, that they may notice they are, those prevent us and it was, it seems to contradict the 2nd article of the constitution in finding the right to life of every person. you know that a choice of either as they last. but as soon as they faced with the pressure from social organizations to decriminalize abortion,
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the catholic church objected to these measures. i think the archbishop called on the legislature not to change the penal code, was on us. that's all the because soon this had to go. they go up and then you see some of them will get out because if we got a democrat, take a look at the percentages for them. the width of the members of the legislature will see that if they vote to legalize the portion they will be going against the vast majority of the population feel, which is christian. yeah. also to see on the constitution says that life begins at the moment of conception. so i don't see why abortion should be judged less severely than aggravated homicide. i've come across from the changing the charges violates due process. they're trying to impose longer sentences. abortion carries a sentence of 2 to 8 years in philadelphia, also to learn a lot more credit. the class in the middle or upper class women who have more money have $2.00 options and in the future they go to a private clinic and pay over $1000.00 for an abortion, for they go abroad for the procedure i use. i don't de larry,
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i lose. so i would ask, kind of really thinking with that a murder is now considered a human right to my mother's right. this isn't the ideological relativism that for me as a politician is an ideological upfront to the west of america. and its citizens and pick on america one to 2. this is the largest genocide in human history and much greater than the one carried out during the 2nd world war. and there one the other . but again, if you're not already selling partner states, he is not reviewed cases of miscarriages, that have led to women's imprisonment. but the main thing. and guess what, of what it does when it comes to miscarriages. no woman is being persecuted for having a miscarriage in the past for the time, you know, woman should go to jail for having an abortion. the a frequent fact of what i'm
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a student and that's enough because i was contacted by amnesty international ever taking this case bundle. so let me find out exclusively handle cases like this. so in seattle, i believe it has a central for just this charge against a door i was aggravated homicide. if you want to see major contradictions here, and then i can tell one of you that went up a so another thing of the killing of a newborn thing. thing 30 to 40 weeks gestation. female who was born alive, but died of parent natal 6, you know, fix up putting a thumb is the signs of a 6 you by drowning were found. see any loving cause you born died of parent a to let's fix you. she could not have died by drowning somebody sees things are mutually exclusive film pat renee to let's fix it as a natural cause of death enough to that it cannot be one on the other at the same time across on even with him. i don't think the judges even read the autopsy of tolkien fund the when i read to
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dora's file, which is very extensive and i must admit, i saw this woman is guilty by the file intentionally. leads you to believe that she is guilty that correctly. but it does happen upon, but when you sit down and read it more carefully, you wonder how is it possible that a woman who wants to have an abortion calls the police 5 times to ask them for help here. but i get, i have a great a, this is the law. he cried. the medical evidence is conclusive. in member of the she had a pre term birth plus central abrupt sion with heavy bleeding and lost consciousness . especially for medical history is consistent with the information. she provided a many cs to saying, but i said, i wouldn't. 9 months pregnant misses i was robbed when i was on my way to san salvador with my sick mother at an am with sam. i was rubbed on the bus, isn't that on the internet? the man tried to steal my phone and jumped towards me. so i'm gonna send the landing right on my belly, say in the midst of the blow to the
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abdomen. and the final trimester can cause plus central abrupt sion, which was probably the case with theodora. because when the baby came, the plus center came with it for those and because of the injury to the abdomen. this is the most logical conclusion to dora. like many others were stigmatized and convicted without evidence. ok, and if you provo instigate an abortion that is if you give the patient the idea or assist or in any way and you're also go to prison for 2 to 5 years. and that's why health care workers report everything to the police, miscarriages, or still birds. they report any kind of termination of pregnancy and having so this has massage and they stigmatization and persecution for being a woman. if a woman has a miscarriage, the 1st thing people think is that it was intentional or said when a woman becomes pregnant,
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she loses all her rights and automatically becomes an incubator. all her rights are violated, starting with the right to life. related to the some of the jungle, please. i mean we are fighting for this error to be corrected, but the judges, after 6 months of fighting court of appeals agreed to review the case. one doesn't have the best. yeah. i don't think i don't think that's the current status. yes. just almost like the boss. oh no. no. that was on the radio and we'd like to invite you to join us tomorrow. it's an important day. we need the support of all of you that will be gathering in front of that. you see the room and then there's quotes to support to, to allow to hearing apple. yeah. and the ad building would act as a crucial day for her. and she many just the says be the leading from 7 am in front
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more for me there, what's your family's help is the process. and the what i would like is for her son to have his mother's love with any of them he has had to live with his grandparent or not. his mother that somebody will pray to god that the case will be resolved. and she looked at her freedom back even she's been depressed for so long and unable to take care of for some family, possibly. it goes back to the faulty investigation. the facts are all there. so i'm not sure. but if this is based on your investigation is tell the innocent or guilty made of a fuse. that's for the judges to decide based on the evidence in the mind. just presenting evidence a few minutes ago. and i was one of those who made the pro, instead of me not to be clear,
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was the child still born or could it have been killed or let us know that nothing in the autopsy confirms the child ever drew breath. so you know that at least so it was still born. what i think it didn't drop breath the the what happened to your baby? i mean, i was 9 months pregnant when my baby came. i've been imprisoned ever since. 11 years in prison. once after 5. how many people are in the same situation
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that $23.00 of us are accused of this crime that we did not commit a claim to him from a data from us. and how were these years in prison knowing you were innocent and been very difficult beneficial? i based hard times in prison because i'm paying for a crime, i didn't commit to the mental goodness. i mean, what is your message to the word world and the country's lot of boards and it's still criminalized on the west side of city. my message is to review all the cases of women who have been convicted of a crime similar to mine. same, and that we did not commit these crimes. we need our freedom back because it's our right look at them, isn't that. we have a right to freedom, that is, they have violated our freedom to do with that. not, not only my freedom but of many women. and it does have the state did not support us, but discriminated against us as women federal. but we have the strength and courage to keep fighting here, but as they get
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a chance to review the what are you asking from the judges? like i said, i'm going to give me back my freedom quest and i'm going to miss that because i am innocent. split kate because i have a family to fight for now if i mean i forget which i such a thing because i have people who love me and need me to be with them. that's all is the
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the was set up with this situation. we've had enough of the violence against women people of the. 2 world police reports of salvatore. we are becoming more and more impoverished, but we are not pool. we on congress by the patriarchal capitalist system, the we women will keep fighting. this is an injustice. the
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they were found guilty of aggravated homicide. and see the other is a distress signal from amnesty international. in el salvador bullshit is precipitate the selling. it is a country that has some of the wealth strictest abortion laws that have delayed a ruling on whether to free a woman who was sentenced to 30 years in prison after she gave birth to a still born baby. human rights organizations are calling for an end to well sounds . it was totaled banned from abortion funding. i will gather your lawyer, came and gave me a paper and said, mean i might even have to send the read. this is the, your sentence has been reduced to the time you've already spent. here one dentist had not had to say that sample for you. and i find that in pretending i took the paper and started reading. i'm so as though it said that i was absolved and the point at assessing that i thought this can't be true. my sentence was just upheld,
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asking them, but i read it again and again, 1000 times to make sure it understood. i know that i completed the when i was informed that i was free, i read out the letter with the other girls that they were trying. we love each other in here, the canal can what we're family. the know what the main thing is that we stuck together. because together we can break down the walls that surround us. the they know that my leaving here is a door opening for them to with them. i can say i have it but a the, the
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the not going to see i didn't recognize anyone. can see the video since either. it was a long day, but it wasn't even tired, but i was free but afraid to face life. nobody else today. i couldn't believe that. he called me mamma is oh see boy the theater. you'll know, unless you and i still wasn't used to the idea that i had a teenage son and he wasn't used to the idea that he had a young mother. yeah, this is still a death. and then when the money holding me for the simple gift,
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but a look for him, my mother was his mother and she has to mothers the indian. so you're sending me. but in the day i got out and i felt so much happiness . yeah. you're not going to see that, but i mean, my name isn't, but also like i was split into. so say that for me to, to work it went up by the one part of me wanted to get out of it and the other was afraid to leave the women behind to have missed as a minimum, they told me we will also be freed. i mean the me to have it is, but i felt bad that i'd gotten lucky and they hadn't the 7th day then of the savvy, i guess if i knew the march 8th protest existed in, but i didn't know the extent of it. my 1st time there
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was unforgettable. the interesting with that made me think when when i'm not alone, i'm stronger. i will join them so we speak with one voice. hello, salvatore and people sisters. and all of you who are here today today is a very important day for all of us. i'm very happy and grateful. your struggle was
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worth it. i am the living proof. i am here to join you in sight alongside you to free the other incarcerated women. i invite each and every one of you to stand together and keep on fighting. because the site does not stop here, we will take on everyone who comes because we're fighters. we will not be silent. we are women who will face anything that comes our way. the hello fresh. how are you? i'm very proud of you and my i'm so happy about all the effort you're putting in on our behalf. god bless you. take care of your son, your family. i love you very much and i hope to be out there with you one day soon . sending you lots of kisses and hugs. i love you very much. the
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semester started. it's been less than 2 months since i regained my freedom. and so just i just, i will never get back those 10 years of my life a little bit. but that's my pass to get somebody get any percent. i'm living my present now in the sending and campaigning for the women who are still in prison. so that'd be at, at the latest working i'm raising my voice on their behalf. either the key i am calling on the legislative assembly of el salvador to speed up the process of commuting their sentences,
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battled and put pressure on the government of el salvador to release these 24 women . there are still 24 women in prison facing enormous difficulties to keep fighting after 10 years in prison is not only extraordinary. it takes great courage to have the common bus cuz you on and spiration to us the the
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people don't understand the reality of women. the worst thing is that women who live in the countryside in small villages are the most vulnerable, noble men, who as money is in prison, not one believe me. we are guilty because we are women. we have no rights. from the moment we get pregnant, our lives don't matter. what matters is to feed us, we're carrying the mother's health doesn't matter. only the child imagined a 12 year old girl going to school her future still ahead of her. if she gets raped and pregnant, she will be forced to have the child just because of our loss. i believe this is unjust. we must raise our voices and say what we feel and think about this issue. the
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let me let them. i wanted to see them, but i didn't think you'd be possible in the printer for many years. it was good to come back and visit the prison to see every one and say that i am here to meet in a 2 story. i support you and will be with you no matter what the last 10, almost in the in good times and bad sam when i'll be there with that good
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