the, the visiting views live it from berlin. tonight, the leadership of the break away enclave of the corner of the car block announcing we have agreed to dissolve our sales. the announcement comes in the wake of a mass exodus with over half of the rubble regions, population fleet. and either by john taking control of the enclave and the military attack last week. also coming up tonight, the european union struggling to agree on new rules. on migration, even after germany agrees to go along with an intensely negotiated package, changes aimed to take pressure off front line countries and relocate arrivals to

other e u countries. plus a scientific report says that the swiss alps glaciers are shrinking at an alarming rate and melting glaciers across the world. it could contribute to sea level rising with significant environmental consequences. we'll talk to an expert about what the implications can be for where you live, the library golf. it's good to have you with us on this thursday. the either by johnny government has issued a statement saying that armenians in the car box can stay if they want to. but many ethnic armenians have chosen to flee with more than half of the population of the enclave. now on the moon of the know going back,

these refugees let the homes in the going to account or back to a media bringing with them only what they could carry the homeland as they know it is collapsing. the separatist government says it will dissolve itself by the end of the year and sees control to as a by john however, it's painful having you tell me what should i changed from the increments we were born and raised in the garden? oh, good about that feeling good. so now it's just nothing in does the lives we had has been raised on tucked down, could you ever see, and what i can put into that now how you, chico, i'm going to begin the kind of buffy media and i cannot live under the yoke of concept by john gene i did begin with the some of the media use to defend us minimize. we felt safe on them and to lift the as our meetings who

would be high d as a by showing the government was quick to release his statement. promising to ease the integration of estimate communions, living in nickel in a car, back into the republic of as the by john but of the decades of a bit to struggle between on media and as a by john over the territory. armenians and nichol know camera back have little face. i mean, is prime minister accused as a by john of ethnic cleansing. something which as a by john refutes the amount of auto body. how to use the exodus of our media and from the gone will cut off as a result of us or by johns ethnic cleansing. policy continues to send that switch, analysis of the situation. sure. to end the coming to use the will renew armenians left and the goal and will cut off. this is a not to best nick planes and they move in hoff this nicole know camera backs

indian population has flipped the territory. knowing that it is very unlikely that they will ever be able to return home well, enjoying no buy as bureau of robot. she's with the center of analysis of international relations in iser by showing. no, that is a think tank that's aligned with either by john's government. she joins me tonight from boxes. it's good to have you with this this evening either by john says that ethnic armenians in, they're going to cover by have nothing to fear that they can stay. why then have we seen them leaving by the 10s of thousands 1st of all, good evening and thanks for having me. and as, or as you rightly pointed, as the virginia authorities declares out about these people, living in car boss, are our citizens. and we have tried our best as a by johnny side to meet their demands to meet their needs in terms of somebody's hair and assistance in terms of extending them and medical assistance and extending

all sorts of assistance that they need. and also when, as a bridge on conduct of the short that's tied to it or operation, it was very precise. it was very uh, uh, that right is only 2 images interesting within the 30 targets. so no civilians actually were hurt, hurts during this operations. and we also heard from the worth of army as prime minister nicole pushing down, who's that on the 21st of september, that there were no casualties amongst civilians. so this, syria and this, let's say massive leading of people from car law has nothing to do with as of for john's policies. it's their free choice, 1st of all and also so mister george, that jeff or o if i the next level is that they're living? yeah, i just wanted to say, you know, you said that there had been new casualties in the military attack last week on how we're, what's your source on that? we of course, is just, we can't do the transfer to i just refer to army as prime minister. that's the

primary source. anyone could get. the country's prime minister said that on the 21st of september, the white one, he was appealing to the nation, that there were no losses among the casual, no casualties, no less is among the civilians. i mean, just that's the official reference point that i was making. so they were the intent on the part of us about jobs as of a john to harm harm and the civilians. therefore, we provided all the needs that they actually needed old assistance that they needed . and as of which also declares that not only the civilian civilians are not our target, the never been our target. however, even those malicious and separate tests that fought against, as i by john that were illegal to depart in the car, even may have given, had been given free passage to armenia and suffers. if they're your turn to their barracks, they will also be granted that the government says i, what do i, i'd like to believe you, but my point is we is drillers, we it's, it's impossible for us to get into. and i'm going to call her back to verify these

things. and there have been requests for us or by john to let international observers into the enclave to see exactly what is going on. and either by john has said that it's not going to happen. why? to well, you know, um there are international journalists covering the stories. and we have heard some of the researchers who have been in the past of watching roy acknowledge the fax to agents from suppress that they are being pushed and they are leaving at the end of the separatist. so they are doing was on the place probably you have to look for their legal procedures or how to make this things happen. so it's not that we're not that excited anyone there. the only concern we might be haven't knew the security concerns. so they might have some procedures to be filled in order to, let's say, fulfill all the necessities, all the obligations, all the requirements of security. it's just, i mean, security wise, we have to provide security of those people that are on into those territories. but otherwise, there is an international coverage the, the european federation chose,

i just wanted to, you know, make, make it clear. has said that in eyes or by john journalist have to request special uh, authorizations from the presidential administration to travel to call her back. and they say that there's authorizations are rarely grandson. so because it's not say, 1st of all there's a huge landmark contamination. and if we bring in people there to the area that are not like mine free, and how can we, uh, let's say, provide their security member as a virginia lands liberator, as a virginia lands is the, one of the most contaminated was land life in the world. will the 25000000000 years dollars the search the years to clean those territories. and the millions of, as the by john is that were expelled during the 1st car before they counted school . but only because there is a huge landline issue, only because their homes are gone. so of course, secure with the ease of things. so that's why these things are not so easy. let me get your take on the, the wider geopolitical situation that we're in. our media has accused russia of

being distracted by the war in ukraine and, and not living up to its security commitment to armenia. if there had been a war in ukraine, if there had been no energy crisis in demand for new sources of energy, would either by john be standing as strong this evening. well, yeah, this is a very hypothetical question. and honestly, if you're looking for yes and no question i can give you will just be a simple question, but i can always tell you that as about dietary theories have been occupied for his 1st 2 years. there are 4 united admission security council resolutions of 1993, which were calling for immediate unconditional withdrawal of all army and forces from us advertise here. as a result, the resolutions were ignored for a 3 day case, and nobody actually cared to bother making sure about their fulfillment. so what as a bunch, and they actually, after giving warnings for a long time, after putting that was they made the acres work that were all successful on the part of the or seniors group as of a john inbox on,

let's say liberation off. it's land also off the, in the consequence, in the aftermath of the repeat this pro, locations repeated attacks on the part of our, me, against our territories, against i will serenity against our borders against our people. so if you have been following the story like 4 to 4 to 40 day war, when it's hot happened, how would happen? you could read and see that they were repeated provocations and attacks and the part of our meeting and government specifically on the part of the full question. yeah. again as the by john, repeat the border provocations when i was about to find the 27th of september decided to embark on this conference. harris come to a concert or offensive operation liberated. and this time discharge contractors offer should happen because our media was still creating problems, often liberating of these territories. they were still in tracing to our territory . they were still bringing in land lies. they brought the land life and plans of them on the new legal constructed roads. and our policemen, $66.00 people and

a 6 were military people and 2 civilians actually died as a result of the landline explosions which were planted there newly after b liberation of the land. so it was actually a red light for us. i just missed uh, let me just ask you before we run out of time, the role of the european union in germany, you know that they have come it trying to, to add someone is a piece broker or mediator in this crisis. they were talked him earlier this week in brussels, but many in brussels, particularly here in germany, are saying that your opinion looks weak. the united states looks weak on these big powers look weak and dealing with this situation. um, do you see it as the picture, the as being the se to well, you know, i, i do not uh, once again, speculate about this issues. but what i can say that your opinion was a really and is still

a really valuable party partner in terms of shooting post complex normalization and fostering a piece of john that between i mean, yeah. and also by john and all the results and positive results that for that cheap on there. i mean, yeah, so, but john, a piece truck was actually mediated by the european union and then the facilitation by the european union. so we actually value highly the role of the written union in armenia as a by john normalization. and we think that the only problem created in this situation was coming from our media because our media did not want to abide by his commitment on of the november 2020 agreement. not or if you wanted to abide by the agreements that were reached, liability shall be your opinion. so what we witness is after some of the results and progress as cheap, specifically after the 15th july and me thinking brussels, we're both harming and as a bridge and finally recognized each other theory told in terms of integrity in terms of sugars, figuratively, 298 for armenia, $8.00 to 648 for us it by john,

which means armina inc, the guys of john federal and texas including carol. um, they are medium for prime ministers, sent a letter of congratulations to the separate this of car box on the occasion of their independence booth. and they then they start to build up a military around the border so far as a project. so army actually torpedoes, the problem is this job. unfortunately, we are out of time, but you, you're the is certainly and then a good job and making your point clear. and we appreciate that as near jeff are over with the center of analysis of international relations in iser by john. thank you. thank and what nice as well, here's a relative now what some of the other stories that are making headlines around the world police in the dutch fort city of rotterdam have the rest of the day suspected gunman who they say killed at least 3 people, including a teenage girl, the 32 year old student allegedly opened fire and started 5 years in a classroom at his university's hospital and in

a nearby house. police believe they were targeted attacks. the defense ministers of germany, it is real, had signed a deal to supply the is really made missile defense system ero, 3 to germany. the hypersonic system will become a key part of your defense against any aerial attacks. it's the largest deal in the history of israel's defense industry. one of the case, most famous trees, has been cut down and what police have called a deliberate act of vandalism. the statuesque sycamore tree had stood next to the roman landmark. adrian's wall, for nearly 200 years, a 16 year old boy has been arrest a meeting of european union interior ministers trying to find a compromise on the asylum. and migration rules have come to a close with has an agreement expected only the next few days. in germany says that it's agreed into

a stricter processing rules for asylum seekers and migrants coming through the you . but it only appears to be blocking a packed over standards in detention centers as well as the role of in g o's, in supporting migrants. several frontline countries say they can no longer deal with the large numbers of people arriving on their shores. when they get another r corresponding rosie for judge, she is in brussels covering this meeting for us, but he's good to see you. does it really look like an agreement on the use migration policy is at hand as well? not quite across the line yet. i've heard many times we've written or read headlines that e u. countries have failed to agree on reforms to their migration and asylum policy . it is an incredibly politically divisive topic here in brussels, but there is something different this time forth well, a few months ago already in your countries agreed to a major reform to more equitably distribute my grand smith,

ireland seekers arriving in the site, southern southern coastal countries of the book across the other parts of the e. u, and that was really a pretty particularly controversial issue. no, there remains. one last piece of the legislative puzzled the soul and it's a so called crisis mechanism. so a new rule book for what happens when large numbers of migrants and asylum seekers arrive to the shores. all at once, no germany had been up sustaining on a vote on this site in concerns of right and human rights conditions for those that are arriving because under this crisis making isn't some rules would be relaxed. in this case of so called crisis. now we spoke to jeremy's interior minister, nancy phase, or when she emerged from the talk, she seemed pretty positive. she seemed happy to say that she had secured what she was looking for in terms of getting families and priorities of families and children prioritized in under this so called crisis mechanism and regulation. however, when germany goes on board, it seems

a so we has no withdrawn 8 support. the tell him administered literally walked out of the talk. so it's still no final agreement though. the official line here in brussels is that they still are, they think just a few days away. and on the brink of a breakthrough. yeah. that it sounds like it could just be diplomatic window dressing out. and it's, if i'm understanding you correctly, because we know italy has expressed doubts about this. um are, are they holding out to get their way or are we just going to seat is peter out? and we're not going to have to do an agreement at the end of the weekend, see what was missed, a bit of political arithmetic going on here because it's, we has express concerns in the past, at least as a, basically it's that is to do with the fundamentals of you migration, the silent policy under which a person has to register and apply for asylum in the country where they 1st arrive . and that does put at least an administrative and an infrastructural burden on countries like actually those countries which are by virtue of their geography,

the gateway to the european union. they've also a, there's been some public complaints at least a dispute of, of sorts between it's we in germany over berlin's backing for some non profit groups which operate search and rescue operations in the mediterranean for my friends making that journey to a to we enroll in the past said that those types of groups incentivize a re coverage migrant son, particularly those smugglers that are trafficking migrants into the european union into making those perilous journey. so that is a political division which still remains in place vendor of course countries including hungary and poland that are really against any sort of reform to the migration decide with policy which would leave more migrants and asylum seekers to their door. so they said, we don't know yet for the final deal will be for the lane, is that they're almost there. however, there are still some political hurdles to jump once on when a deal is done. yeah, the hurdles to jump as the number of migrants coming continues to rise.

we'll see what happens. been in there when the weekend's up. where's the bird charging brussel is rosie is always think the glaciers in the swiss else are shrinking and alarming rate. that's what a new scientific study says in just the last 2 years. the glaciers have lost as much ice volume as they did in the 30 years between 19601990. the disclosures and this with ops used to be covered in snow. but after another hot summer, the melting fast, they have already lost 4 percent of the entire volume over the course of this year . last year, the last 6 percent and what was the worst motivate since records began more than a century ago hosted his record to year last year. we didn't expect to see you again such a year with very strong losses. and this is really absolutely unprecedented. and every time i'm coming back to the sides, i'm, well, i'm wondering again,

what is what is happening here because it's changing so false to the landscape is changing, new rocks are appearing. everything is becoming gray and stark mathias hoops and his team from the specification monitoring. that's what grandma has been measuring the loss of ice and switzerland as an altitude of 3000 meters. they found that in the past 2 years alone, the swift glaciers have lost as much ice volume at the dip between 19601990. the summer was much to warm and we lost at this position more than 2 meters of ice. and this is lots, especially considering country or at the highest point of the glacier. we know that the low lying terminals but tie up great a glacier actually should accumulate some new months. the reason for this, i suppose, is that there wasn't enough snow fall and winter, then came an extremely hot summer, with temperatures in switzerland were 1.2 degrees celsius above normal levels in august, making it one of the 10 warmest august on record in the mountains

a new all time high of 31.5 degrees celsius was recorded. as long as we continue to burn fossil fuels, these events will become more and more frequent nature of the plan, irreplaceable roll in the natural world. they sustain life replenish equal systems and provide fresh water to human and wildlife. like we such as estimate the glacier mountain globally, has contributed to roughly 21 percent of absorb sea level rise, threatening to displace millions by the end of the century. and the current warming trends 2 sorts of spacious may vanish by 2100 for more now and join by country zeta. byers' is very clements ologist working for the dodge of that. the deans as the german meteor logical service is good to have you with this. these numbers of the glacier of melting. i mean there are shocking under the, i guess they shouldn't be, but they, they are. the alpine region is warming at a quicker rate than other parts of the world. why is that?

well, one reason is that the, the land most generally warm faster than, than the oceans because water can absorb more of the incoming heat than the land. but then we also see that the temperature trends in the opposite also higher than in adjacent land regions. and we know several mechanisms for this. and some of them are not or the interplay is not very well understood. but what, what fits very well to the temperature increase since the 1980s that we observe is also observed increase in sunshine duration. so we have more incoming radiation which leads to more warming. and this effect is also local increase by or enhanced by this note abuto feedback. so if you have white snow, it reflects a lot more of the incoming radiation than if you have bare ground. and with increased warming, we have less snow cover or of snow melts. earlier in spring and us, we have less radiation which is reflected in more which can form the ground. so we have uh, enhanced feedback mechanism of warming,

which actually also accelerates the melting and then the warming again. can we expect to see further warming in the alps? i mean, and i'm wondering what that's going to lead to, i mean, i've seen predictions that it wouldn't be that long until we're going to have winters. we're um, you know, the sky slides will only be able to provide sky and varies. you know, split skinny areas and that will be artificial snow so, so even if we stop admitting now we will still experience further warming in the next decade. it's because the climate system response lower or with the time lag to the emissions and them but and how much so how serious this warming is and how big the impacts are depends largely and how much and how fast we're able to go be reduce our mission so the projections for the ups um yeah, for pretty low temperature rises between $1.00 to $5.00 degrees till the end of the century compared to the 1980s to 2010 of of,

of this century. so that's a big range and it depends a lot on how we act now, which of these it will be and this, the impacts largely depends on how much warming we will see in the up. so yeah, yeah, there's a big spend for what, what people expect is, of course, but what we do expect is less no extra, especially in the lower regions melting of glaciers falling of permafrost, and also strong effects on biodiversity. you know, we've been, we've been talking a lot about extreme weather events this year of just, you know, this week we've been talking about the original rainfall and flooding in, in greece. i'm just wondering when it comes to visit us with apps and these glaciers. is there anything that we can do to prevent, i guess the more extreme warming in that region that we are seeing? mean it, we're on a trajectory right now. if i understand you right, that no matter what we do, we will have to accept and adapt to

a certain amount of further warming, right? so yes and, and the only mode the only measure we can have is a comprehensive reduction in global greenhouse gases because it, it doesn't really matter where do image. so it'd be the local effects to not depend on the local emission. so it's, it's really we have to have a global global reduction in greenhouse gas emission, and this would greatly curve the warming and also the effects and the impact. so we will have the effect. but if we have, if we're at the lower range of this project, it inc. temperature increased, we will have less effects, which we can cope with. where as well, if we're at the higher end range than for example, for the glaciers this, they're not, you know, they will not have a very bright future. that's what we're going to have any more glaciers to talk about. that's for sure. katrina zeta byers' time intelligence with the german meters. logical service. we appreciate your time. good night. thank you. thank you . bye bye. for spanish police have rated the offices of the country's soccer

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