the, the, this is the w news. why? from berlin? tonight, the leadership of the break away enclave up the corner cover block announcing on january 1st we will no longer exist. the announcement comes in the wake of a mass exit is more than half of the $120000.00 ethnic armenians fleeing after an attack last week by the kaiser. by showing the military also coming up tonight, the european union struggling to agree on new rules on migration, even after germany agrees to go along with an intensely negotiated package. the change is able to take pressure off of the front line countries and to relocate

arrivals to other e you states plus assigned to the report says that the swiss alps glaciers are shrinking at an alarming rate. melting glaciers across the world could contribute to sea level rise with significant environmental consequences. we'll talk to an expert about the implications of this. the i bring golf to our view is watching on cbs in the united states, into all of you around the world. welcome, the iser by john, the government has issued a statement saying that armenians in a gordon, a car, bach can stay if they want. but many ethnic armenians have chosen to flee with more than half the population of the enclave. now on the move of the know going back, these refugees flipped the homes in the going to turn it back to a media,

bringing with them only what they could carry the homeland as they know it is collapsing. the separatist government says it will dissolve itself by the end of the the n c control to as a by john however, it's painful having you tell me what should i think from the increments we were born and raised in the garden. oh god, obama said feeling good. so now it's just nothing and the lives we had has been raised on tough gone. good. and the other thing is, what i can put into that. now, how you, chico, i'm going to begin the kind of buffy media and cannot live onto the yoke of concert by john gene. a did vision with the some of the media used to defend us minimize and we felt safe on them and to lift the as our meanings. who

were based high d as a by showing the government was quick to release his statement. promising to ease the integration of estimate communions, living in laguna, kyra back into the republic of as the by john but of the decades of a bit to struggle between on media and as a by john over the territory. armenians and nichol know camera back have little face mean is prime minister accused as a by john of ethnic cleansing. something which as a by john refutes the above it. how to use the exodus of our media and from the going to cut them off as a result of us or by johns ethnic cleansing, policy continues. analysis of the situation shows the in the coming to use there will be new armenians left and they're going to cut off on you. this is a not to best nick planes in pay more than hoff this. nicole know camera backs uh

median population has flipped the territory, knowing that it is very unlikely that they will ever be able to return home or what i'm doing now by stairs turnkey on. he's an armenian american activist who has been advocating for the ethnic armenians in newborn oak our block. you might also recognize him as the singer of the heavy metal band system of a down you join me. tonight from los angeles says it's good to have you with this as someone who has been working for the rights of ethnic armenians in going to call her back. i just wanted to ask you this attack that we saw on the enclave last weekend. and this just mass migration that has resulted is that, does that surprise you? it was surprising because the you and the us and many partners of armenia were confident that a survey jones dictator olive was promising not to you know, do

a full military assault on the people have not gotten a lot of paul, but he lied. and he did, and now they're lying and saying that people are leading on their own well as if for thousands of years, you live in your indigenous homeland and you're gonna leave your house behind your belongings behind everything that you own your businesses behind and just leave for no reason it's, it's insulting. yeah. well, it is true. we are unable to get the engine to go to cadillac, to report, and an independent observers are also not being allowed in. so there's no way to verify what is happening on the ground. they are, you have been warning of a genocide of ethnic armenians. i mean, what do you think about the answer by john's assurances that ethnic armenians have nothing to worry about? especially if they decide to stay a look at their own citizens. they are living in a country without much rights of 4 or 5 journalists and professors were,

were just recently incarcerated for speaking against the assault on and going to a lot of thought of in those are bad john. so if those are meetings are going to be treated as, as already, as well as outside the citizens, that doesn't mean any there. you know, we have a country that is a dictatorship that uses its oil for influence throughout europe, and re packages russian oil to send to the u as a way of going around russian sanctions. europe knows this, it's a critical of course, and it's buying a lot of influence that way and millions of dollars and heavier diplomacy and does the laundromat basically uh, you know, paying off a lot of, uh, empties in europe and congressmen into us and hiring, made major publicity firms and otherwise they probably wouldn't be on your network . you had the right hand person of all you have on your show yesterday i saw and it really, really baffled me how that can happen. you your, you know,

there's people that are doing ethnic cleansing, the representative shouldn't be, you know, presenting their side of ethnic, cleansing, it, it's, it's absolutely horrendous and it's a responsible for the press to actually allow that. well, what i didn't have to say, so really the, you're talking about after these talks in brussels and the interview that was conducted with the foreign policy advisor. and like i said, we cannot verify independently verify what is happening on the ground. they are the that's, that's the situation and that's right, cuz right now jim will not allow people to go in. yeah. and, you know, one of the one thing that i'm sorry to interrupt, but one thing that has happened is as a bridge and apparently has agreed to allow intern independent monitors to go in. i think that's very valuable now, whether they're going to keep their word or not. i wouldn't hold my breath, but hopefully they do that because i people living in the garden, a lot of problems are means living in the going on the problem or those that want to go back to their homes or visit family or visit graves or churches. they can not

feel protected without international monitors or, you know, international peacekeepers that's really, really vital for their existence in the future. um, and in the long term, i have to say that this is a case like possible there's a strep, or any kind of case here, just like with ethnic albanians that were massacred and they weren't, they had to leave their homeland one and a half 1000000 opinions left their homeland and the world came together and said these people deserve the homeland because they are not safe. otherwise, that is what needs to happen in the garden a lot about in the long term. but in the short term, is that your monetary and disaster, 75000 people are in armenia right now as true, and you 1000 population. what about what about the roll? the pressure says you want to ask you about russia. armenia has said that russia has let it down and that it has been distracted by its invasion of you crate. what do you think when you hear that it's not so much of this?

it's not so much distraction, but a geopolitical re, alignment with other vision in turkey because of ukraine. azerbaijan and turkey basically played both sides. the western side, surgery being and nato ally, as well as the russian side. so without turkey and nato's the co operations, azerbaijan wouldn't russia, sorry, wouldn't be able to get an oil to europe, to us any pipelines, nor would it be able to get it ships. uh, you know, ink crime. yeah. without turkish cooperation. so they're, they've realized their foreign policy, you know, and that they've thrown our media and armenians under the bus, starting in the war in 2020 armenia had at the time a bilateral defense packed with russia. and the c s. c o. and obviously they did nothing they, we believed that they've green lives, every invasion, every, they've decided a lot of things having to do with the going a lot of that, a lot of sway with the leadership there. and to be honest with you it's, it's a tragedy rush has thrown our meetings on the bus and they've been trying to

supplant our government in armenia at this time. and trying to get a extra territorial court door in the south of armenia and sunni, which is not going to happen. but you know, it's just, it's brutal, it's brutal. so as long as the 2nd worst day in history for armenians in the world after the genocide, a 180 years ago, there's unfortunately, we are out of time. but we, we certainly do we hear you and we, we appreciate you taking the time to talk with this sarah, just talking on joining us tonight from los angeles. thank you for having me on here's a round up now of some of the other stories that are making headlines around the world. police indeed judge, board city of rotterdam have a rest your day. you suspected government who they say killed at least 3 people, including a teenage girl. the 32 year old student allegedly opened fire and started blazes in the classroom. it is university's hospital and in a nearby house police believe that they were targeted the tax nato secretary

general year in stoughton bag says that ukrainian forces are gradually gaining ground in their counter offensive. so that after a meeting with new grades, president building is zalinski and keep the data chief is in, keep to discuss the needs of ukraine's troops. so big said that nato has contracts for 2400000000 euros in ammunition for ukraine, 2000000000 euros european union, interior ministers. they met this week in brussels. we're a key topic of discussion, is migration and managing future crises. handling searches in migration movement as calls tensions in the 20 southern countries that make up the e. u. an intense negotiations seem to be moving towards in unified planning agreement. so how close are they now to a deal as as the breast, as meeting all ice bound? jeremy. what's the country green light in you, you ruble for migration crisis. it kept people just like you. i signaled approval

today on behalf of the german government because the completion of the common european asylum system legislation is of huge importance to us in charlotte the item. this new regulation is designed to kick in large numbers of migrants all head towards europe. at the same time. it would allow member states to relax certain rules, but germany was married that would lead to a drop and the standards guaranteeing migrants human rights, especially for children. so initially did not agree that stock negotiations on part of a sweeping, assign them before. now berlin is on board, so is the deadlock over not cried yet. there are no main obstacle left. we will reach an agreement that was a broad majority for the proposal. and that would be, it happened in a few days. italy's reportedly not satisfied with the new proposals, the country on the use external border says it's feeling this train from an

increase in immigration. and other you states say the same. last year, nearly 1000000 people applied for asylum into european union. this is the highest number since 20152016. when millions of refugees in migrants came to the e. u. most 1st time applications in 2022 registered in germany, france and spain. but that's not where most migrant initially arrives there, different routes to the u. my. the ones who crossed the mediterranean sea arrive irregularly in italy or greece. others attempt to enter overland through the rest and by cons. both without a dangerous but crossing the mediterranean has proved, especially deadly thousands drawn. every year. you bought a country's most migrants arrive. what relief they say. either you members should

help share the burden. but reaching agreement and how to achieve this has created deep divisions, which the interior minister did the use of rosie birch are. it has been covering the story for some brussels. i asked her if the you is any closer to finally agreeing on an asylum and migration policy as well. not quite across the line yet i'm how many times we written or read headlines. the e u countries have failed to agree on reforms to their migration and asylum policy . it is an incredibly politically divisive topic here in brussels, but there is something different this time forth. well, a few months ago, already in your countries agreed to a major reform to more equitably distribute migrant smith's island seekers arriving in the site, southern southern coastal countries of the book across the other parts of the you and not was really a pretty particularly controversial issue no, there remains one last piece of the legislative puzzled, the souls, and it's

a so called crisis mechanism. so a new rule book for what happens when large numbers of migrants and asylum seekers arrive to the shores. all at once, no germany had been up sustaining on a vote on this site and concerns it right in the human rights conditions for those that are arriving because under this crisis, making this in some rules would be relaxed. in this case of so called crisis. now we spoke to germany's interior minister, nancy phase, or when she emerged from the talk, she seemed pretty positive. she seemed happy to say that she had secured what she was looking for in terms of getting families and priorities of families and children prioritized in under this so called crisis mechanism and regulation. however, when germany goes on board, it seems a so we has now withdrawn 8 support. the tell him, administer literally walked out of the talk. so it's still no final agreement though. the official line here in brussels is that they still are, they think just a few days away. and on the brink of

a breakthrough. yeah. that it sounds like it could just be diplomatic window dressing out. and it's, if i'm understanding you correctly, because we know italy has expressed doubts about this. um are, are they holding out to get their way or are we just going to seat is peter out? and we're not going to have to do an agreement at the end of the weekend, as well as miss a bit of political arithmetic going on here. because it's, we has express concerns in the past, at least as a, basically it's that is to do with the fundamentals of you migration. the silent policy under which a person has to register and apply for asylum in the country where they 1st arrive . and that does put at least an administrative and an infrastructural burden on countries like actually those countries which are by virtue of their geography, the gateway to the european union. they've also, uh, there's been some public complaints, at least a dispute of, of sorts between a to wheat and jeremy, over berlin's backing for some nonprofit groups which offer it search and rescue

operations in the mediterranean for migrants making that journey to italy enrolled in the past. said that those type of groups incentivize a recall ridge migrants and particularly those smugglers that are trafficking migrants into the european union into making those perilous journey. so that is a political division which still remains in place vendor of course countries including hungary and poland that are really against any sort of reform to be migration the silent policy which would leave more migrants and asylum seekers to their door. so listen, we don't know yet for the final deal will be, but the line is that they're almost there. however, there are still some political hurdles to jump once on when a deal is done. yeah, the role is to jump as the number of migrants coming continues to rise. we'll see what happens in there when the weekend's up or is it virtually impossible? it's, rosie is always think for the long side, italy, greece is one of the main countries where people migrants arrived when they come to

the european union. know a camp on the greek island of less books has become a symbol of the difficulties facing the use migration policy. our corresponded emily sherwin met with some of the people on the a emanuel lo, john radiates positivity. that's not always easy for a migrant living unless most no john works as a volunteer in the for re a community center on the greek island, which has been in a silent hot spot for years. he's helping with security at lunch today. low john is from war torn south sedan and arrived unless both 5 months ago he applied for asylum and for relocation to another e. u. country had this thing that we are placing inside the comments on the about the process. something about the process, the development of the asylum process, and we have no, any adults shown,

we have no way to go. we can go bug and we can go ahead unless you finish the process. the center were load, young volunteers is run by engineers for many migrants. it's a refuge, especially because many get stuck waiting in the camp and in the asylum process for years. this summer has brought a huge wave of new arrivals to elizabeth's official statistics show. the camp is already over capacity since july. more than $1300.00 people have arrived each month over 4 times more than before. the greek authorities rejected a request for access to the camp, saying they currently have too much work due to mass arrivals. the back in the community center, the n g o europe cares is concerned the situation unless both could deteriorate. with so many new arrivals, the housing capacity of the comp is decreasing more and more the subject to use, or some drop posts, which are huge tens. what people are leaving to where there is more levels where

the hygiene conditions had a lot worse than in the other housing unit. and there is no a seat, no funds, which is really hot inside this was the n g o says it is already providing food packages to over 400 people every week. in may, the greek migration ministry decided that the camp will no longer feed people whose asylum requests are not currently being processed and the long wait for asylum in europe. emanuel lo, john, is using music to keep up his spirits. he wants the lyrics to his songs, to give comfort and courage to his fellow migrants salanza towards. 2 the noisy and before him for as may know, when this one you spend one at new things don't think too much everything's having time. so even if the income of $25.00 a new study, it says that the glaciers and this with else are shrinking out of

a wandering rate in just the last 2 years. the glaciers have lost as much ice volume as they did in the 30 years between 1960 and 199. the disclosures and the special ops used to be covered in snow, but after another hot summer, they're melting fast. they have already lost 4 percent of the entire volume over the course of this year. last year, the last 6 percent. and what was the worst motivate since records began when a century ago hosted his record to year last year. we didn't expect to see again, such a year with very strong losses, and this is really absolutely unprecedented. and every time i'm coming back to the sides, i'm, well, i'm wondering again, what is what is happening here because it's changing so false to the landscape is changing, new rocks are appearing. everything is becoming grey and dark, mathias horse and his team from the specification monitoring. that's what glen must have been measuring the loss of ice and switzerland as an altitude of 3000 meters.

they found that in the past 2 years alone, the swift glaciers half lost as much as what you did between 19601990. the summer was much to warm and we lost at this position more than 2 meters of ice. and this is lots, especially considering country or at the highest point of the glacier. we know that the low lying terminals, the tie up, great, a glacier actually should accumulate some new most. the reason for this, i suppose, is that there wasn't enough snow for the winter. then came an extremely hot summer, with temperatures in switzerland were 1.2 degrees celsius above normal levels in august, making it one of the 10 warmest august on record in the mountains a new all time height of 31.5 degrees celsius was recorded. as long as we continue to burn fossil fuels, these events will become more and more frequent nature of plan irreplaceable role in the natural world. they sustain life, we've tendered ecosystems and provide fresh water to humans and wildlife. and like

we saw just estimate the glacial mountain globally has contributed to roughly 21 percent of observed sea level rise, threatening to displace millions by the end of the century. and the current warming trends 2 sorts of spacious may vanish by 2100. a little more i spoke to con screen that will not here. she's a climate tall and just working for the georgia bet to do this, the german and media logical service. well, one reason is that the, the land most generally warm, faster than, than the oceans. because the water can absorb more of the incoming heat than the land. but then we also see that the temperature trends in the outside also higher than in adjacent land regions. and um, we know several mechanisms for this. and some of them are not, or the interplay is not very well understood, but what, what fits very well to the temperature increase since the 1980s that we observe is also observed increase in sunshine duration. so we have more incoming radiation

which leads to more warming, and this effect is also locally increased by or enhanced by the snow abuto feedback . so if you have white snow, it reflects a lot more of the incoming radiation. then if you have bare ground and with increased warming, we have less snow cover or of snow melts. earlier in spring and us we have less radiation which is reflected in more which can form the ground. so we have the enhanced feedback mechanism of forming which actually also accelerates the melting and then the warming again. what can we expect to see further warming in the alps? i mean, and i'm wondering what that's going to lead to, i mean, i've seen predictions that it won't be that long until we're going to have winters . we're, um, you know, the sky slides will only be able to provide sky and varies. you know, split skimming areas and that will be artificial. it's not so so even if we stop admitting now we will still experience further warming in the next decade. and

because the climate system responds slower or with the time lag to the emissions and them but and how much so how serious this warming is and how big the impacts are depends largely and how much and how fast we're able to go be reduce our mission so the projections for the outs um yeah, for pretty low temperature rises between $1.00 to $5.00 degrees toward the end of the century compared to the 1980s to 2010 of of, of this century. so that's a big range and it depends a lot on how we act now, which of these it will be and this the impacts largely depends on how much warming we will see in the up. so yeah, yeah, there's a big spencer what, what we will expect is of course, but what we do expect is less no extra, especially in the lower regions melting of glaciers falling of permafrost, and also strong effects on biodiversity. you know, we've been, we've been talking

a lot about extreme weather events this year of just, you know, this week we've been talking about the instrumental rainfall and flooding in, in greece. and i'm just wondering when it comes to this with apps and these glaciers, is there anything that we can do to prevent, i guess the more extreme warming in that region that we are seeing? mean it, we're on a trajectory right now. if i understand you right, that no matter what we do, we will have to accept and adapt to a certain amount of further work, right? so yes, and the only, well, the only measure we can have is a comprehensive reduction in global greenhouse gases because it, it doesn't really matter where you emit. so it'd be the local effects to not depend on the local emission. so it's, it's really we have to have a yeah, a global global reduction in greenhouse gas emission, and this would greatly curb the warming and also the effects and the impact. so we will have the effects. but if we have, if we're at the lower range of this project that inc temperature increased,

we will have less effects, which we can cope with. where as well, if we're at the higher rabbit range than for example, for the glaciers this, they're not, you know, they will not have a very bright future. that's why we won't have any more glaciers to talk about this or short country, and they don't buy our excitements all just with the german meters, logical service. we appreciate your time tonight. thank you. thank you. bye bye. you're watching dw news. after a short break, i'll be back to take you through the day stick around. we'll be right back. the,

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