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says progresses in our hands and that means so is request. it's up to us. how significant of the beginning of madana see the series of the great philosophers to our present and future. our series project in line to minutes, thoughts october 5th on d. w. good, peaceful as it appears, both of us sits right next door to ukraine and the searing, devastating conflict with no end in sight since february last year, the country of just 2 and a half 1000000 has been under the state of emergency. wherever the fighting might spread to its own territory by accident or design finality use border agency from tex offers
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a symbolic show of outside support. moldova is hoping for much more. this is the border crossing point from moldova into ukraine, the nearest fighting the current moment between ukraine and russia is roughly a 100 kilometers away. the big question dominates here is where the mold over is mr. pollutants. next target. comfort zone has come here to gauge the level of concern good in the southeast of the country, moldova shares a 200 kilometer stretch of the denise, the river with ukraine, the re no longer just the puerto for the dividing line between war and peace.
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russian messiah targeting ukraine of floating over moldova. but to those border patrols of watching more of a smugglers and people traffic, those were soon the police say they're ready to fight for their country. whoever threatens them. however, launch the force as for as long as it takes your living next to to huge was do you think you'll ever see peace in this region? the game in the last time? i hope so. but you're not sure. i think at this stage, no one can be sure of that, but i think everyone wants to to see piece, especially given the fact that as many other assignments, parents on the last think a one that my child see is more especially close. so i hold that soon, that will be peace. so so the threat to moldova has appeared not from
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outside with in the anti government demonstrations in the capital titian now alongside them. a constant stream of cyber attacks. just information on the bottom hopes is that of ruffled the thirties and put them on the defensive rushes. hines, they say is behind it all with you to happen for russia to decide the coming across your board in force. i'm gonna take control here in most of a model of us decision to walk along. they are paying the vendors pass and be a member of the democratic humphrey world. that's exactly already the reason why russia so aggressive here in this region. and they can for now do it if they manage to change the government by ready to closing the population. that would mean that they can put the various scenarios in motion. that would mean that
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they can provoke rand, including opening the front front. that would mean that they could access the blackfoot lexis with a new bed and the impress, including the trades, who have different uh, quite the advantage of submitted the position stuff. nance, proximity with maple troops and much, much, much more. let's give some extra power negotiations with brussels. and when i say brussels, i mean all the capital for you. that means that again in control and they don't need extra a reason. ready that may be true, but for president my assembled in office since 2020 the prospect of direct russian intervention has already come too close for comfort. earlier this year, you accuse the russians of attempting a qu, data against to a government. how close did you come to being tough old we a much stronger this year than last year, for instance, when, when the, the word and your brain started always to,
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if you should so much stronger and we have proof that i always, that you should have been able to prevent pressure from leanplum and think it's scenario, it doesn't mean that these attempts will not continue, but how best did it come? it was to me, i was thing you a visa, juice's was tongue notes. and restless plan proved to be not the least sticky notes because especially believed that we where we got because that's what special one small dog or 2 to be switched to be a weak institution or a weak state with weak institutions. we with close, but our institutions managed to put it in this scenario. how do we have to space 1000 way? well, i'm not 2 hours away but weeks in which a restaurant was planning to, to undertake this offense of over throwing the government together with the criminal groups together with the corruption groups lead my some hold of it. but again,
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thanks for the fact that we knew about these plans and thanks to the fact that the institutions managed to do yet quickly. and they were vigilant enough this, this was not, this hasn't happened. do you feel personally on the threat from nation but uh, you know that at a 6 when you come to a position like being the president of a country that i've ever started back to the, to i from i do feel safe because i have a team here which protects you of talked about the a hybrid was that um most ago has a positive distributed large sums of money to all the galks in moldova, essentially to cause trouble. you would seem to have very powerful enemies here. do you know who they will? uh, are we talking about a 5th column against you in this country?
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it's a combination um we have quality assurance and people who have been receiving money from russia for years to undermine o. s. h to be of the strong state and the republic of minova. more recently, some of the cut off groups which before, didn't have a dual political color. no joined russia. and it's attends to this the boys, the country. because the interest of the cut up groups are to keep them on the integrate area to have we can institution so that they could continue to steal and they would not be with embrace and they would not respond for the abuses that they've committed in the, in the past, so you have a combination of efforts, no, of those people who have been working for us just for many years who have been paid, but i sure to, to work against them all the and state. and now the look it up groups which southern lazy allies that they share the same objective regression to make this
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country weak and, and to benefit from not june. the 1st and dozens of european leaders were on parade. in mode of his capital. a dazzling unity displayed by the continents most important politicians, armed with a possible promise of support and the fervent hope that's what happened in ukraine . what would happen here? commission president, us uniform deadline, praise moldova, for embodying what she called, your core values. that a sunny day, which you showed towards the ukranian refugees, the resilience which your show to rush as a relax, mailing and unity which you showed to link your destiny to the european it was very moving to see a see of europe in flat here, in case you know, streets last week and my message to the people of most of our is that we stand by
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you, we support you every step of the way on your past due to your opinions. and today i'm glad to announce a new support package for molded love with a double checked. we want to support you to address the impact of the war and your doorstep. and we want to bring your closer to your opinion. you said recently, we believe we can save our democracy only as part of the e u. 0. democracy that french i think goes into the political situation, shows to us that ratio continued to be a big source of instability. so years to come. and actually it has been posing flats to our democracy, and that's why we believe that our democracy will be safer within the you. we value
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democracy. we've been fighting hard to protect our democratic institutions. and so, since this is especially to consolidate them, but we see that external times it's can have significant implications, especially on the small country, like when you come to do it by the fact that some of the european leaders decided to come here. we honored and we see this as a strong signal of support and you want more than a strong signal of support. you want more than moral support down to you want to actual support. we have been benefits, income supports with enough promising you anything. uh, we have the candidate status now, and this is extremely important to us to us. this is the life of the end of the tunnel we have been benefiting from supports. now that we've had to deal with the energy crisis with economic implications of the word and ukraine with that as a g crisis. yes, we do need support, but we have
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a strong determination here inside the country to make the integration possible and prevent you becoming hooton's. next target we do need to be boss of the you family, to feel safe. are you afraid of being his next target? we do see what actually is being to ukraine, and that is, is to be concerned. of course, you suggested most of them might become a full member of the you by 2030, but you could well be out of power by that new party has been posting in the low twenty's for some of this year. isn't that a why wouldn't that be a huge stumbling book to the you? if you've got voted out of office, we made a commitment to beat id by 2030 for the you members sheets. and we showed on may 21st a few days ago. that he's popular support when the citizens of one of those i came to case, you know,
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came into the street. we have the polling. we have the pulse would show that more than 60 percent of mobile and support the you accession plan and will continue to work to make sure that the restroom propaganda. and it's this information does not reduce the popular support for it for the you integration. but this is an objective which is supported by the majority of the there is no better place to test the public support. and then one of the capitals main markets where day to day concerns. clearly trump any distance dreams of e u. membership, top of the list, poverty unemployment and rising prices. and the, unless the government can turn around the economy, it may not be in time long enough to steer the country all the way to brussels. a
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journey with no clear the time table stretching perhaps many years into the future business says larissa thought a lot of this is just so frustrating you know, didn't know what your new which i thought i knew more good because where it needs to be a what thank you for the patience long on the show, even though that's and then it was ok to know it's a so it's not a new or see you and i see everything about the initial distortion. you say what the story is? the boys on the 2nd got to work, but it's still, it's a challenge, opinion of usage of skaters, him and you've suggested the story here. but the more you said is the way you might be smear presents provides, you know,
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separately. and just to make sure that i see them was it's not by that normal gum. yeah, there's going to be thing we so we need the full size, the most of the table dogs can use it on the which one. let's just see what we'd like to do this, but i'm almost the farmer who, who really just name me to search the vehicle, the motor so that i bought the 11th to be e waste. cookies the good is there any is closet with them? uh, this is if you want to click on this site, it will searches around you know, your time. so the guy who is assuming is it would need to be in the museum in the
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position. so let me get this for you. i'll come on. i know what other questions you can jump into the, the virginia to moving about the use of the glue that must be, it'll be easier for someone to do solutions we, which in, you know, put it up. and the most close example across the most part lived here was really much quicker. good, despite some good feelings towards russia, the old communist busts and statues in moldova don't attract much interest these days. but even after nearly a year and a half of war and ukraine pro moscow politicians form an active, highly motivated opposition block the could we gain power if things go badly for the current government one of them is the form a promo,
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sco president. we go those on who comes put in a patriot and says he'd restore a cost to ship with russia. if he go back into a pilot. we ask for an interview. he made 2 appointments. posts were canceled. a year ago, prosecutors jobs came with an array of crimes including treason, financial irregularities, and abuse of office using assistive ease in this why the did i bring him to trial? he says it's political persecution. he has a point person, but let's say he was supported by your criminal in yours and that all his fingers that has been openly prefab supported by the criminal i'm here in cation on the republican smelled over. he was promoted off, the russian federation was impressed that he was feeling supporting the autographs
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. he was doing businesses with them. he was directing the policies into the direction that facilitated them. the allowed to sit and go for billions from the people that knows, draining the budget. that means impediments in the implementation of important development programs that will only benefit the the people you see, the kind of this has been proved in the course of the floor. he remains innocence, and he's proved guilty to of course, of course. so how long, how long is this going to go on? these charges hanging over his head. don't people have a right to timely justice? timely for 5 to yes. hear them that if i'm to go from all of them, we had the only propaganda and infusion of a feeling of incapacity, total dependence of what i shows will. and josh was policies,
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we have to let him once again to leave our country, the 50 kilometers outside the capital. there's another opposition stronghold. it's dedicated to upsetting the government's learning program and teaching it in the next elections do within 2 years. it's the city of all hey, home to the pro must go sure potty, which is clearly invested heavily to give the people well fun. the day we visited, my dozens were arriving by the coach though at the local federal government party assured me on the i did receive own of these products. okay. learn from you guys then. no big of but i believe we do. one is zillow, luna, mutual shows and the silk receiver knows what to record it nor do you know i gave
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you it. you got 32 of them that says this from my assembled lady, which i guess was missing my son. the shorter. no. good. go. yeah. the order, hey, what do you do you have a when? which in knoxville? yeah. with a glass septic you, you will probably need to come from. you have one that i will really woke up cuz that's, i mean you, it's in the zone. so you as you can work the streets, day and night here you know, hey, but you won't find the man who sets up the show a party, you'll on sure. he fled the country after being convicted for his boss and a massive bank for sure. it doesn't give many interviews, but we managed to contact him on line. that is permanent location. it is well,
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when he told us he was innocent, his trial of being rate. and the real face was the president's my ascend on russia though not a word of purchases. got in store right now, could i didn't you from each of us because that's a volume. it's pretty crazy. sometimes you can me g o you. oh yeah. yeah. i mean 0 you'll do you good for that? yeah, but it keeps me. yeah, yep. i do just you need to use the dc more, but needs that. i've never got the desktop go to it, but the upcoming value you complete the yeah. good to most of them all the above. what shot good level menu bar and the purpose of my daughter got yeah, that's a whole lot still, but with god what somebody does because it yeah. yeah. you mean by you in this country? from your business, but you move muskrat russell. chuck knew me. yeah. you might have seen. yeah.
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you sure. what's the model you have on the was good. that's going to be on the do you know, do me, i know that those that he via me. yeah. i need to have some noise in you would be even the desktop or just score uh, kind of the list even by syllabus choice of goods. and would you go to, is that for them as was the case in the court? well, or whatever the political battles in moldova, it's the war the dominates, the government's thinking, the ministers know that for now they survive only because the ukrainians of keeping russia the and if you pay lose this and if they lose, you lose to we all are those sir,
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your process, it's not about the public of model for only do you believe that you took, but few kind of moments ago? do you believe that you kind can win back overland, but russia has occupied, as it wants to even look at the ball from right next door will to ukraine back to feel should be helped, should get all the support to the gain. it's that he thought is otherwise, we sleep in a world where countries boring those funnelled perspective anymore and this is not the world anyone wants to live in the prospect scale. the fact that innocent people are being killed every days in ukraine. this is something that scares everybody, so that's why we need to help you claim and we need to make sure that such things don't happen anymore. you don't believe to you that this is a one off of the venture for the criminal. and you think russia will remain
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a threat for years to come? yes, that's what i believe. and that's right. and that's why the truth, right? and that's why i go with the abilities. very important. what you see is president putin's and game here. just the large thing better that that's, that's what the union's probably so the union or even more. but it's clear that the system between large, they country which is big enough to what kind of basis will it be in the future for western nations with russia. what, what come, that'd be under those circumstances? the democratic world and, and the entire war means to make sure that if i should respect the territorial integrity of the countries or the, you said yourself, we remain a threat to mold over, at least while we're at democracy. so that threats will continue. i shall continue to be a big source of instability for years to come. that's why the content on needs to
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stay together. and that's why the democratic world needs to work together us and just held all the countries like mendoza, which one's the democracy to survive for us. the easiest way to go. so the data or democracy and to preserve is, is, is to be part of the, but that still doesn't give us a way of living with this kind of russia. this with bunches throughout city school still going to be the that's why accountability is that important. and restaurant should be punished for what it is doing now, and you pay the
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