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number, my name is dora da. com investigate. i'm 34 years old. i've been in prison for 10 years and 6 months. second, the abortion is a crime. thanks to our constitution. and some of the world is still one of the few countries that bands abortions, in all cases, the human rights,

its organizations take advantage of women's lack of education and through forced propaganda and lines. they make the murderers of their unborn daughters and sons. it's a cruel act. it's a barbaric act. the issue that missed it was the 13th of july, 2007 due at the name and i was 9 months pregnant

is that i was working at a central san salvador and the pain was unbearable. again, my telephone i started making calls me the suddenly my baby is about to be born and i said, i can stand the pain. come help me those separately. so many of the police said they would come right. but they never did know you that the we until because my baby was born there and then germany. i fainted. the look. and when i woke up, i tried to get help the why did you kill her and asked me,

i haven't told anyone. i said the epic assembly said yes, you killed your daughter. now you have to pay the time. i didn't mind i took the passing out and i just remember waking up and then fainting again. i was almost dead. the endorses i've been imprisoned ever since. the middle of the 1st, they said it was an abortion when they changed it to aggravated homicide, they sentenced me to 30 years. the when, when the door opened, i didn't want to look inside of it in the event for that in the community. i didn't want to talk to anyone. i didn't want anyone talking to me

just to be at an enemy living. i wanted my baby, but i'd already bought clothes for her that that was so excited, the reset, the machine's women sleep on the floor at 1st. and i was left on the floor for 7 months. and as i used to live there crying down and staring at the wall, wondering when i'd be able to leave the club. and when the truth would come out, the biggest thing i was afraid that i would never get out again. i saw it. i see, i won't survive. i'm going to die your money. in animal mental evidence. yep. what we could do for the hearing in january 2008. i didn't have a lawyer to defend me. if my parents had given a lot are $700.00 to take my case and guess the damage.

he demanded that they give him land cattle house and the car by the gentleman that allow me to my parents asked me if they should give him the house. but i couldn't leave them on the street. so i decided not to have a lawyer. i prefer to stay in prison longer if it meant my parents and my son would still have a place to live. are you gonna be cited as an able to be in the class? i don't know how the years went by. and my son grew up without me being able to send me 5 is my parents were always worried because they

didn't have money to visit me. i was 21 and i was born when he was 3 years old. i got pregnant again. what's the name was to me and i was very excited because i wanted to have 2 children the and okay. my kid instead of what i want most just to be with on her gabrielle. you know coming but i missed the best of his childhood. no, i loved him more than ever, mac and i loved him from the day he was born and we loved him until the day i die and data with delta care. but they disappeared. the having an abortion goes against their nature against their maternal instincts,

against their own interests. after an abortion women suffer clinical depression. but this kind of depression is important. these women have killed girls and boys who have the right to live. the other one might need more head, more than 3000 women live in the prison. and that kind of, they don't even have a bed or a blanket to sleep under. now. yeah, there's no running water. the fact that the food is terrible, and i mean there are only 6 toilets for all these women. julia, i'm with a company. i met many other inmates. i never realized they were in prison on similar charges. i thought i was alone,

but i wasn't they don't know it. i think we realize there were many women accused of the same crime. today. we were already friends, but we hadn't talked about our cases them on board for so fast. fund them in ahead . i think that when they said 30 years, my 1st thought was not screwing up. i supplement, i've lost everything. the thought of me, i haven't seen my daughter since i've been here. the thing was that i don't know how she's doing. i know nothing. the doing. i saw i had a fight with the father of my 1st daughter. she was 9 years old, but man was saying i was 4 months pregnant and that's what they hit me. and the baby died. i started bleeding a lot. my daughter saw me later last time that i just remember that i was given an injection in the hospital and they put me on a bed, but that's all for me. uh,

that's it. then i woke up around 7 in the evening. i was handcuffed. they told me not to ask questions and to stay where i was thinking that i was alone in the room . but in the mail on the day of my hearing, there was no evidence against me. they only the testimony of one witness. the dna test, people in the end who was the witness. my daughter's father who hit you. yes. in. and you couldn't no federal since the prosecutor was on their side, they didn't allow me lawyer to speak and 1000000 and i don't know, 11 i'm they didn't allow my father to speak bible man. and i don't, he was my only witness. and it's like that on the bottom. i've been here for almost 11 years and they sent him speech authority. what happened to you? nicholas? i was accused of aggravated homicide. yes, dinah and i was at the hospital. a problem there,

but i also why i was handcuffed for them and they said i was charged with murder telling me that i have killed my own door. so nick asked, i was shocking. no, no, no, no, you know i fell down. it was an accident that fell off my almost about my daughter a me had and they didn't let me see her thing. and i'm going to sit on the need a many, you know, they all. anyway, i did it so sorry, i didn't understand what was happening and then because i haven't seen it, he said, but i'm good at the doctor's blame. you don't dis cold, the police and all the photo. ok, i am, i don't have them and send them. i didn't understand they didn't give me an explanation. they took me to the police station and i went up for

me. i was there for about 8 days. then they brought me here. james, i had on the one of my daughters is 15 years old and the other is 1200 in but i got pregnant after being raped by 3 men, but i found that i'm one of them was my brother. he me monitor after my mother died, i lost my baby 20 days later i was arrested during my baby's funeral. i think i mentioned the enemy said policeman were standing at the door of the church. i asked them, why are you looking for me again? and they said my name and i said yes, that's me. they said you're under a risk for murder. are i asked why? i didn't kill anyone. they took my baby's body out of the coffin and threw it in

the back of the pickup truck. they took my baby and they took me to say, i know i left my 2 daughters behind my parents were no longer there to take care of them. and i didn't want to leave them with my brother, the one who had hurt me. my brother and his friends have their families. while my daughters are suffering from any age, and they're having a hard time on their own. and i'm suffering without them. can use this for serious life has been really hard on me in that regard. and that's a good idea to sort of my thoughts. so if i'm the only one, maybe they just got it wrong. it was maybe they just made a mistake. try to thank god it was to me to find the yes, when i learned that there were more of us, i got very angry. think it would be when at the, because it means that el salvador sees women as property, having in the more,

you know, set them up as the stand up to them. where is the best in this? it has to be laws allow them to rule over us unless you can go ahead and that's of interest on what happened. we cannot allow women to continue to be in prison for pregnancy emergencies in sales to not do anything about this situation. we're in that in that us to set up with some of the and we've quite strong relationships. we've decided to unite and defend ourselves. and then the 2nd part of lawyers with the citizens group for the criminalization of abortion t and in 2012. and after that, they called us to 17 time of the way that we agreed that they would take on our cases a few met. and that the 1st of us to come out of prison by whatever means for that it would be the 1st to denounce the conditions inside prisoners yet. and this is the silver sal movie and eventually for the moment.

okay. the master's told us they needed just looks person to represent us when the girls chose me to play that's how it all started. these days are special for each one of us. we know we are in prison, but we had our spiritual freedom the see. yeah, i didn't that i see the bill or in see side about a typical him. this is we saw, should we 17 women. now there are more of the systems, 2009. we have identified a 129 cases in one hand. difficult the in addition to political, loving, living nice ation. i'm campaigning now. the citizens group has a legal teamed up front of the stuff on cases came in. so if the

cases are not just thrown in the court room, they all want in the streets and looking them on the go to the a, b s m l n party presented to the penal code reforms a d criminalize abortion level because the state, the lawyers so they are dying. these conditions on is for the president of the legislative assembly loading opinion presenting the bill alongside women's groups and request that when the sale for the last you. when is the result the break when the mother's life is at risk when it's a result of human trafficking and when the case involved the minor because they've got so separate that they may notice they are, those are pretty madison was there seems to contradict the 2nd article of the constitution and frightening the right to life of every person. and you know that a choice of either as they lost. but as soon as the waves was pressure from social organizations to decriminalize abortion, the catholic church objected to these measures, i think has to be archbishop,

called on the legislature, not to change the penal code was on us. that's all the because you and that's i go, they go up and not some of them will come out because if we are a democrat, take a look at the percentages for them. the width of the members of the legislature will see that if they vote to legalize the portion they would be going against the vast majority of the population field, which is christian. yeah, lot of people see on the constitution says that life begins at the moment of conception. so i don't see why abortion should be judged less severely than aggravated homicide. i've come get it on the changing the charges violates due process. they're trying to impose longer sentences. abortion carries a sentence of 2 to 8 years in philadelphia. no such winery, more credits. the class in the middle or upper class women who have more money have $2.00 options and in the future they go to a private clinic and pay over $1000.00 for an abortion, for they go abroad for the procedure would have been by use. i don't de larry, i lose. so i would ask because we've been without a murder is now considered

a human right to my mother's right. this isn't the ideological relativism that for me as a politician is an ideological upfront to the west of america and its citizens and pick on and i'm ready got going to ask you this is the largest genocide in human history and much greater than the one carried out during the 2nd world war and i said one the others. but again, if you're not already selling partner states, he is not reviewed cases of miscarriages, that have led to women's imprisonment. the main thing and customer, that's what it does when it comes to miscarriages. no woman is being persecuted for having a miscarriage all the past. one of the time, you know, woman should go to jail for having an abortion. the a frequent fact of what i'm a student and less on that because i was contacted by amnesty international ever

taking this case will bundle. so let me know exclusively handle cases like this. since you don't have to leave it as essential for just this charge. you can stay at dora was aggravated homicide. you only see major contradictions here in the attic telling of you that went up a so another thing of the killing of a newborn same thing. 13 to 14 weeks gestation, female who was born alive, but died of parent natal guess fix, you know, fix up late enough that is signs of a 6 year by drowning were found she loved it. can do born, died of parent 8 till the 6 year that she could not have died by drowning somebody . these things are mutually exclusive film every day to let's fix it as a natural cause of death, enough to that it cannot be one on the other at the same time. of course, on the i'm with him. i don't think the judges even read the autopsy enough book from the la area. and this is when i read to dora's file, which is very extensive. and then i must admit,

i saw this woman is guilty by the file intentionally, leads you to believe that she is guilty to that correctly, but it does happen to fun. but when you sit down and read it more carefully, you wonder, how is it possible that a woman who wants to have an abortion calls the police 5 times to ask them for help here? this is the minute the lord. he cried. the medical evidence is conclusive. investing, she had a pre term birth plus central abrupt sion with heavy bleeding and lost consciousness . this is for medical history is consistent with the information. she provided a many cs to saying, but i saw i wouldn't 9 months pregnant misses. i was rods when i was on my way to san salvador, with my sick mother at the name when i was robbed down the bus, isn't that on the internet? the man tried to steal my phone and jumped towards me, landing right on my belly, say in the midst of the blow to the

abdomen. and the final trimester can cause plus central abrupt sion, which was probably the case with theodora. because when the baby came, the plus center came with it for those and because of the injury to the abdomen. this is the most logical conclusion to your door. like many others will stigmatized and convicted without evidence to look at. if you provo instigate an abortion, that is if you give the patient the idea or assist or in any way, and you're also go to prison for 2 to 5 years. and that's why health care workers report everything to the police, miscarriages, or still birds. they report any kind of termination of pregnancy and having so this is massaging stigmatization and persecution for being a woman. if a woman has a miscarriage, the 1st thing people think is that it was intentional or said when a woman becomes pregnant, she loses all her rights and automatically becomes an incubator. all her rights are

violated. starting with the right to life, the, the stumbled which on the police, i mean, we are fighting for this error to be corrected, but the judges, after 6 months of fighting court of appeals agreed to review the case. say one doesn't have the best. yeah. i don't think, i don't think that's the current status guess. just almost like the boss. all know that the advice on the radio and we'd like to invite you to join us tomorrow. it's an important thing that we need to suppose of one of you that will be gathering in front of the see the room, and then there's quotes to support to, to allow to hearing apple. yeah. and the ad building would act as a crucial day for her. and she, many, just the, so it'd be the from 7 am in front of the courthouse to show your support and her

fight to regain have freedom. the

more for me there, what's your family's health is the persistence the what i would like is for her son to have his mother's love with any of them he has had to live with his grandparent or not. his mother does somebody, we'll pray to god that the case will be resolved and she will get her freedom back . let us down even. she's been oppressed for so long and unable to take care of for some family. possibly. it goes back to the faulty investigation. the facts are all there. if this is based on your investigation, is the innocent or guilty made of a fuse that's for the judges to decide based on the evidence in the mind. just presenting evidence, i think what is that going on so that so many of the pro, instead of going to be clear, was the child still born or could it have been killed or let's see,

last night that nothing in the autopsy confirms the child ever drew breath, you know that a link to it was still born. what? i think it didn't drop breath the the what happened to your baby? i mean, i was 9 months pregnant when my baby came. i've been imprisoned ever since. 11 years in prison. once after 5. how many people are in the same situation that 23 of us are accused of this crime that we did not commit from

a data for months and how were these years in prison knowing you were innocent and been very difficult benefits. i based hard times in prison instead of a course that i'm paying for a crime, i didn't commit to the mental comments. i mean, what is your message to the word world and the country's lot of boardman is still criminalized or west city. my message is to review all the cases of women who have been convicted of a crime similar to mine. same, and that we did not commit these crimes. we need our freedom back because it's our right look at them. it isn't that we have a right to freedom, that is they have violated our freedom to do with that. not so not only my freedom but of many women. and it doesn't. the state did not support us but discriminated against us as women federal. but we have the strength and courage to keep fighting here, but if they get a chance to review it, or what are you asking from the judges?

like i said, i'm going to give me back my freedom quest that i'm gonna do with that because i am innocent, split case because i have a family to fight for. now if i mean the, can you check such a thing because i have people who love me and need me to be with them. that's all is the

kind of most of the 30 years sentence was upheld collaboratively. how can the prosecutor say she killed without evidence of this kind of justice is not justice as i'll see you and i was present nicholas easy. the

was set up with this situation. we've had enough of the violence against women people of the world. please support a salvador, we are becoming more and more impoverished, but we are not pool. we on congress by the patriarchal capitalist system, the women will keep fighting. this is an injustice. the

flower arrangement was given to the legislature by a group of activists and family members of women in prison for health complications that lead to miscarriage. the that asked for clemency for 17 women who were sentenced to prison terms of up to 40 years. they were found guilty of aggravated homicide and see the signal from amnesty international in el salvador bullshit is

precipitate the selling. it is a country that has some of the wealth strictest abortion laws just have delayed a ruling on whether to free a woman who was sentenced to 30 years in prison after she gave birth to a still born baby to human rights organizations are calling for an end to well sounds, it was totaled banned from abortion funding. i will gather your lawyer, came and gave me a paper and said, maybe you have to send, look, read this for the your sentence has been reduced to the time you've already spent a year on dentist had that had to say the sample for you. i had an opinion on it for sending. i took the paper and started reading. i'm so as though it said that i was absolved. and the boy in assessing that i thought and this can be true. my sentence was just upheld. asking them, but i read it again and again

a 1000 times to make sure it understood. i know that i completed the part of my head on when i was informed that i was free, i read out the letter with the other girls that they were trying. we love each other in here, the canal can what we're family, the for. the main thing is that we stuck together because together we can break down the walls that surround us. the they know that my leaving here is a door opening for them to with them. i can say i have it, but i the, the

morning. thank you for being here. said that the ministry of justice and security has approve the commutation of the sentence of this page or investigates. reducing it from 30 years to 10 years and 7 months stay paid or investigated xbox free of a 2nd chance of life. but i think thank you for coming.

the didn't recognize anyone saying that even my siblings are my nephews, the not going to see i didn't recognize

anyone interested in the a more letter from the nurse and it was a long day, but it wasn't even tired. but i was free but afraid to face life. nobody i today i couldn't believe that he called me mama is to see me. boy, let's say let's have a young unless you and i still wasn't used to the idea that i had a teenage son. and he wasn't used to the idea that he had a young mother. yeah, that's a silly death. and then when the mother holding me for the simple gift but a look for him,

my mother was his mother and she has to mothers the indian. so you're sending me, but in the day i got out and i felt so much happiness. yeah. you're not going to see that. but i remember missing, but also like i was split into that as somebody working with that part of the one part of me wanted to get out of it and the other was afraid to leave the women behind to have missed the minimum. they told me we will also be freed. i mean the me to have it isn't, but i felt bad that i'd gotten lucky and they hadn't, you service data of the savvy, i guess i knew the march 8th protest existed in, but i didn't know the extent of it. my 1st time there

was unforgettable. the interesting with that made me think when, when i'm not alone, i'm stronger. i will join them. you know, so we speak with one voice. hello, salvatore and people sisters. and all of you who are here today today is a very important day for all of us. i am very happy and grateful. your struggle was

worth it. i am the living proof. i am here to join you in sight, alongside you to free the other incarcerated women. and by each and every one of you to stand together and keep on fighting. because the site does not stop here, we will take on everyone who comes because we're fighters. we will not be silent. we are women who will face anything that comes our way. the hello. how are you? i'm very proud of you and my i'm so happy about all the effort you're putting in on our behalf. god bless you. take care of your son, your family. i love you very much and i hope to be out there with you one day soon sending you lots of kisses and hugs. i love you very much. the

semester started. it's been less than 2 months since i regained my freedom. so this thing is i will never get back those 10 years of my life. i had a co pay that, but that's my pass to get somebody to they me percent. i'm living my present now in the sending and campaigning for the women who are still in prison. so that at the latest, i'm raising my voice on their behalf. either the key i am calling on the legislative assembly of el salvador to speed up the process of commuting their sentences, battled and put pressure on the government of el salvador to release these 24 women

. there are still 24 women in prison facing enormous difficulties to keep fighting after 10 years in prison is not only extraordinary. it takes great courage to have the common boss cuz you on inspiration to us the, [000:00:00;00] the

people don't understand the reality of women. the worst thing is that women who live in the countryside in small villages are the most vulnerable. no woman who has money is in prison, not one. believe me. we are guilty because we are women. we have no rights. from the moment we get pregnant, our lives don't matter. what matters is to feed us, we're carrying. the mother's health doesn't matter. only the child might imagine a 12 year old girl going to school for future still ahead of her if she gets raped and pregnant, she will be forced to have the child just because of our loss. i believe this is unjust. we must raise our voices and say what we feel and think about this issue.

the way, let them i wanted to see them, but i didn't think you'd be possible in the dinner for many years. it was good to come back and visit the prison to see everyone and say that i am here to learn mina castillos. i support you and will be with you no matter what the last 10, almost in the in good times and bad. sam, when i'll be there, are you with that?

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