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right, so for the, on the mind this is a key conditions. what do you think the company under construction we also discussing about 1st the removing of the hands to reform on their law enforcement checked or accountability and procedures. mainly via this happening or existing paid in advisory admission that they had the opportunity to visit innovation for sure. the strongest security inconvenience that we can gauge to ukraine is in union membership. this is the strongest convenient for you right? now you can use a can to that country and he's going for the obviously we'll talk about will meet the efforts of cyber attacks. but we don't go for long piece.
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and we have to engage boles looking for base reforms needed for the addition process by the end of the year to be in the unit cost. you will receive the commission called a lot of a package that will be presenting myself. and i'm really part of an issue, wish to continue work on how come to feelings, including the crime of aggression and humane event actions, such as the protection of children's prostate has prepaid for generations and for all its crimes. we will take 4 words, work on each punch in globalization video crane. as i said before,
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together with the desk to process. that is the basic form to note that this i ask is present. the beast formula is the only piece initial to discuss in the international community all the way i mention. but they have a disability. the only one that remains the only one that attracts the attention of the work and the to rational community is president. so nice case peaceful if they say they kept saying they only gave me though it is the formula and we will continue working as it will be a union to make it more mobile and the pages for the future beach. and i'm going to hand over to you, lead me through. but before that, let's be on the line. at this join meeting, go to, to be in union for am ministers. rece ukraine inc gave,
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should be understood as clear commitment ought to be in union. the ukraine and this continued support, you know, they mentioned the support really 3244 base for josh base, compatibility, and working for the membership pass. and it's also sending us, but i've seen the russia astonishing the russia. we are not intimidated by your besides those just outside left. so this a new radio, drones fall into a blast of dose on minutes after i left the city. we had not intimidated by the sword. besides, i resolved to support the file to freedom. i need deputies share with you grand
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firm and we continue. so yes, the wheels is dealing with spending the diesel. uh, we need to
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be sure. just a little closer to sure. now you are watching the w and use in case you've just joined us. our top story today, you find ministers after meeting in cave and they use for an policy chief, joseph burrell and ukraine's from this. so the mutual collab, we're just holding a press conference of that we've been abroad costing. and uh uh, joseph brown focus that it was on the fact that it was a long debate. and that the foreign ministers are sending
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a message off of the sort of directed seats. hey, those are those 1st of the counselors meeting in the candidate the country and the 1st time that is actually meeting of the country as well. you said you is determined to stay with ukraine for a long time, if almost 5000000000 euros of military aid for next year, and that the will keep track ukrainian troops, especially a fights of piles. and that will be continued cooperation of defense industries and continue talks about you membership as the strongest phone support as burrell put it. and he also said the landscape is a piece formula. president savanski is a, that is, is the only game in town as he put it. so this all comes as you find ministers on an, on an on strip to your client's capital key the 1st time as well. said that use top
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diplomats estimates outside the blocks board as of the week and now go to i'll colleague a roman gunshot ranko is in keith standing by that of the. busy us of the roman uh what's uh, what's stood out for you during that press statement. a maybe a few remarks um. it was interesting that mr. brown run for us to a desa. the ukranian city um on the lexi shore, where russian attacks are a daily routine, deadly russian attacks the russian drones or some missiles. so he went there, he was not afraid, and it was a very important signal, i think for ukrainians, or that the you were representative was not afraid to, to visit odessa and to talk to people there and hear referred to to that trip when she was talking to the press conference this the 2nd, the 2nd thing which is important i think is that he's mentioning that the military
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support will not only continue, but we'll get probably a little girl. so she said that she will start an initiative to, to, for a, for additional funding. she spoke about training on fingerprinting and soul just had mentioned the training of pilots on the f. 16 jets in, in countries of the european union. and this is exactly what your brain wants to. yeah. and maybe which is most important message was towards russia. we will not be intimidated by your drones and missiles here. she said, mister bro, and that is why i think this is exactly the tone that the ukrainians were expecting from this meeting, which is absolutely correct, correct? to be described as historically by the pride in prime minister. it's never been the case that the you for our ministers meet in the country actual role. and one thing that really stood out for me was that so let's these piece plan as well. so that is
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the only game in town is that's what sits in here. the significance of this statements. well indeed it is important to uh, he was also talking about peace. so let us not forget about peace. um, of course your brains, you came on space and no one else wants it to move in ukraine, but your credit is not ready to buy a piece at any price. so uh, in the piece for me, formula from presidents landscape is means that the russian troops would withdrawal from ukraine in territory. this is the most important points in the piece plan of this formula. how it is called and you appear in unity appears to be supporting that and this is very, very, very good use for ukraine. so no change in position that despite some bad news fro crane from a countries like slovak slovakia, a neighboring country by a per russian party has won the problem into the election. and the around now concerns that that might influence the flow of weapons to ukraine. a source of ok.
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yeah. but a few people observe us here and key it for a may remain cautiously optimistic that are the supportable flow even even after the possible government change ends in slovakia. and it is interesting, you mentioned as the vakio, that way a government will be formed, most likely a, with the, with the pro russian premier, the criminal has said that more fatigues will continue to grow both in the you and also in the us. how important is this show up of the support then to help avoid that? it is very important of course, and it is very important that all those ministers here in key, if on this day so they can see for themselves what this will means. um, maybe not all of them were here and it is always useful to see it with your own eyes. and of course there is a searching fatigue in the west in western countries in the united states,
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in europe. this is, this is normal uh box um what, what worries a lot of people here and keep that, that helpful ukraine is becoming a topic it's um, during election campaigns. this is really dangerous for ukraine. we have the presidential election in united states in the coming. yeah. and of course, united states is the most important partner and supporter of ukraine militarily, financially, that is why all eyes are on washington at the moment, but you are 3 or is not less important. so there are concerns that maybe if, if washington wavers, then europe will also waiver and we will have to see after this meeting if those concerns are justified or correspond at the moment, there is absolutely no ground to believe that the, that you utilize a waiver of course when enrollment go into the rank of the reporting from the key. thank you very much. roman us instead of me,
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food in order to full invasion of ukraine in february, last year, and hundreds of russian troops unwilling to fight in the war, have deserted, facing up to 15 years in prison for refusing to serve many have fled. russia did the report and natalia small enter the smoke, spoke to one full month soldier who has been go onto the residence of residency in germany. a unique, gemini city finally feels safe here. he doesn't want to give his real name or show his face in order to protect his family, back in russia. he does the research from the russian army to wait, taking part in a lot of them are pollutants or against ukraine who have been most of us have been here for new. i realized that there was no way i will. i got a call from my units and was told you must either go to will or we will initiate criminal proceedings against you. you and you will go to prison. and from that, you will then go to boy, eventually, any way by celia was street in artillery. he started at the military academy
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and served several years as a constructive officer to go disillusioned with the military and tried to quit. but without success, when russia invited to green good orders to the part to the front, despite his refusal to go to war, the sealy was not fired. then on the 21st of september 2022, the fortune and most mobilization and the amended russia's criminal code. now it became nearly impossible to leave the army and deserted space. 15 years behind bars, basine decided to sleep because x. com. and he was not the only one, according to human rights activists, at least $500.00 men have deserved it from the russian army. since then, we spoke with another one of them. he also asked to remain anonymous. unlike leslie, he has actually been to the front line. we'll see what that will be interest in february 2022, we was sent to the military exercises in crimea, and on the 24th,
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the invasion began. and i took part in it. and that time it was simply impossible to refuse to say, well, i laid down my arms, then don't take part in it. we run forward, you'll be set by ukrainians. what do you run back? you'll be caught by running low mice. we victor said he felt a new queen until summer 2022. when he go to vacation, leave the guinea was also sent to take part in so called exercises on the border with you queen. in assembly of 2022. to get out even any shots himself in the leg. but neither he nor victor good with the military. so they to flip because that's them, but it is not safe for them to stay here. they are free that because i've done that will x to date them to russia. you're sound good and ready to face the portion test and i'm not afraid of it. i can even go through a lie detector, test. my conscience is clear. yes. like for the war to go by shot, because i want to survive. you will be true. but the rest because nothing welcome
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to russian detectors by city is one of the 1st is there just who managed to lease cars i've done for you? or even without the passport, he found a jump entered i. t company in gemini, the german embassy gave him so called great passport and of work visa. it is for $4.00 to $4.00 days. when we passed the border control, i was so happy that all this is now behind me. and catholics don police were looking for me here in russia, they came to my relative, stupid, but now it's a little behind me. and i just need to vote this plane and leave this country to realize that this is not a drain. that's going here, but i'm pretty much the super and so now in gemini machine is getting used to normal life. again, he's grateful to jim and you for letting him in and to cause us down full lifting some out. he shared his story. so other service men in russia knew there was the way out of the bloody work in ukraine. the united nations delegation has arrived in a go on a car box the money to the situation that.

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