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this is my mon road. they are entering this house. they are breaking my house that looting my house. there. take some things. i told her lock the door, she said ok, i'm locking looking and my daughter left me message a voice message on the. she said, mom, there's a lot of noise. there's a big noise outside, a very much afraid. yes. that's what she said. yes. as if she understood something very bad is going on well. and actually i think i, i think i hear in the background and we know you have a younger minor by john the v strongly. yet, what are you telling her?
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how are you handling this as a family? first of all, i'm telling her the truth and we've no more a little to no, not a lot of the days that the just man actually it's not only my mother and uh and my daughter is also my nephews and like the x of my sister and a lot of people from the keyboards, we lost a lot of older people and also young people and babies and they are all, were all taken. we don't know where we don't know. we don't hear anything from him, from them and anything from the government. i'm willing to talk with you uh or from the lien and to ask you, please help us to have them. please help us to save them. we don't know where they
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are. we don't know what is going on with them. and we need help. we need someone from the international community to go there and to and to ask the the salaries to release young people and all the people to release the people. they're innocent. we need help. i gave them to you for my daughter and for my mom, but i'm, i'm, i'm doing these 5 for them and for everybody with him to keep it up. please help us . can you, can you just do something? i don't know, i this is what i can do. i can talk to you and tell you this is a holocaust which is going on here. we are, we are destroyed. it's not. it's not the regular. the gentleman you. how did you ever imagine, i mean, you do because you had a safe housing in, in your home. right. and your mother did as well. and i'm just wondering if you
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said that you had a lock on, on your say from your, your mother didn't. could you ever have imagined something like this happening that, that militants would be going door to door in your neighborhood? you know, you live in a war area. how can you live in a war area? you just don't know so everything is okay. you are, you know, the mind can imagine that stuff if you imagined but stuff you don't change their or if you and also i'm talking to you also. so i want to be thinking about what's happening with them. because if i always start to think and imagine what they are going through, i couldn't, i won't be able to talk, you know. hm. so usually in a lower area all the time,
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and you tell yourself everything will be okay. and then the worst nightmare is becoming true. you know, jerry came into my home, tried to open the door. we were my boyfriend, me and in my young daughter we couldn't breathe when he didn't know we. we were scared and he set down, you know, we're still dealing with his gun and shoot everybody who passed from the window. everybody. we know is the soldier. we heard everything. i can't imagine what is going on with my mom and my daughter and my nephews and all the people from yours. i, i don't want to imagine it's gotta be done. i just want to tell you, um, uh, you know, we really appreciate you taking this time to speak with us. we know that this is a very difficult time for, for you your, your family, um for all in the area who,
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who are going through these circumstances will follow up with you. we are hoping for the best for, for your mother and your daughter. know. yeah. um, thank you so much for speaking with us. we will be in touch i want to the words to know what is going on here, please. i want the word to act to do something to you in the red cross. somebody helped us please do self if you can talk with us from us. if you can talk with the soldiers and tell them to release the people, please, please do that. thank you so much for joining us to share that message. all the best you. since this was my colleague guy, sarah kelly, talking to cut it down, who is mother and daughter fair that kidnapped by well, this riley forces, say they have now vague gain control the base right of the times outside casa, but that clashes with another, with palestinian militants continuing,
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israel is also ordered a complete blockade of gauze and cutting off electricity. food and fuel supplies. is of course in response to size of a surprising caution into his row, in which $800.00 people were killed on dozens. abducted is right. the ass strikes on cause also continuing. the goals and health industry says, well, the 500 people have been killed and nearly 3000 injured pillows of smoke across garza is really defense for us to say they are striking. hundreds of targets belonging to militant is miss group hamas and islamic jihad, terrorist groups, and the gaza strip. a response to the unprecedented dudley assault by him, us on southern israel, inside today. an idea spokesman said it was the worst day and is really history.
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never before have so many is rubies, be killed by ones seem to be let alone, and then you give it to you one day if you're americans that want to compare this to something in american history, and this would be a $911.00. the pearl harbor wrapped into one trucks carrying tanks and military equipment lining up in southern israel, the, the buddha. our job is to make sure the details of this war from us no longer have any military capabilities. smithton is really civilians. and in addition to that, we also have to make sure that's how most not to be able to govern because this is riley minute tree footage shows, strikes across gaza missiles, hit tunnels, apartment buildings and mosque
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residents of the territory of surveying the smouldering debris on the dozens of rockets fell on people while they were sleeping. there was no alarm or anything like that. so we ran out into the streets and we weren't prepared cuz we had been home and that there were so many rock a lot of these attacks and not likely to relent soon. israel army chief says they are ready for a long bottle. let's pick out some of these events with marcus fob. he's a member of germany's parliament for the liberal, free democratic party that part of the coalition government. so, so the vice chairman of the german is mainly parliamentary group. welcome, cdw. i fava, i'm greece, thoughts of with your reaction to this attack on saturday? yeah, that's the tech, and it has been condemned by every party in germany. so the question is, what can we do here from germany to support israel?
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not just with words. that's, that's kind of health and such a horrific situation. but also can we provide any age? i think it's wireless on military terms able to handle the situation. um, how does this shopping event, but we are looking for ways to help a besides that. so what do you think jeremy should be doing in terms of practical assistance? a practice of assistance can be military. i can also be a aid when it comes to providing the opportunity and for i'm psychologically to go in there and we have policies is horrific. um pictures from the festival people that got it couldn't have people's at the top. so just keep those that people that get raped. so i think there is a need for us that's kind of have i'm so psychological assistance and the potential for ministry assistance. what might that look like?
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i think we have a very strong house system in germany so we can provide something of that is there is any campus and fee that is overwhelmed. any sort of right now? oh, for every week i'm not going to. i'm sorry you would just about to, to come support that i that i thought you had me say god, forgive me for interrupting. so if it comes to military assistance, i think israel is much more capable of defending itself than germany is like 10 minutes of these very i'm, i'm ready to reason that we more than i think the question is that these riley has to change the challenge that how much is using the people that are living in the gaza strip as hostages? so the question is, how can you identify the must really tens without hitting the civilians, right? as 0 space where we're actually looking at the live pictures of the dock and skies about that gaza, i'm seeing a trace of fire and explosions in the sky. i'm can we turn perhaps to your thoughts
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on israel? responds when they called a complete to blockade of gaza, a cutting of electricity, food and fuel supplies to a region that was all ready, desperately cool. yeah, but if we had, as we don't have fluids, um the aim of each way right now is that how much will not control is it got us rep anymore? as they have proven to be a terroristic organization that has no empathy at all with the civilians. in east ohio. so too, i think to enable that operation to get us out of the get us with this as a 1st move right now and as move follow in the coming days and weeks. it does look as though the entire population of gaza is being punished at the moment c o population of cause. i also enabled some us to have to do this harvey fake actions to this terrorist actions. so it's very hard to have to hit hum
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us without also headings and civilian populations. it got us rep. so i think this would come to a side effects and we have always seems the use fairly ami to be very, very sensible, not to it's the civilian population, more than absolutely necessary to have time us. and i think the, it's very military. we will act in this way this time again. so is it just so i can say what you say, you see i and you said the whole population of goss that helped him. us knew that didn't, that didn't enable from us to rules and got us, but i think it's not an active cooperation with the whole population of the guy that's with by the mazda was able to rule regardless of it for years and years now . and they had engaged sims in as a resource that they needed to, to do the actions we have just seemed to go hundreds and hundreds of used by any
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people. and therefore they deserve to be punished in these riley reprisals. now is the aim of c. it's rarely, i mean, just to punish, i'm us to gets a mazda i was a guy this rep to um, to another state. uh oh my god is being punished. now. there is a blockade. there is no electricity, there is no food going, and there is no water. so that's right. so we will see how long this situation can say like this. i think it is a 1st move to get a mazda out of the guys estimate. and so in the long run, it will also be better for the population of the guys of script been how much is not terrorizing the name of us but to the civil population regardless with as well . okay. did you have a government to today? and i'm said it was freezing around a 125000000 euros in development aid for the palestinian territories. and why so many is up the listing and i
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was out to use to support their own people. and we have now is the question we ask is money going to is really used to support the people in the westbank guns regardless of it because it also used to finance as the terrorist x we have just see. so we will have talks about that with our money actually going. we have to have proof, it is not misuse us as the service x. and on to this proof happens, i think that will these assets that'd be frozen. why don't you already know how best money is being used if we're talking about millions of dollars of that already checks and balances on you already see where the money is going on, what it is being useful. so obviously the official reports where it is going to, for instance, it is used to support the education system is a guy that's slip and also in the west bank. but then we also see that some books
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that are used there. awesome promote anti semitism. so we have to, to have to find new conditions when we want to continue to support the people living in the west bank and they've got us. so i think right now, what's the mess of a tech on east? well, we have seen the adults, and i think these doubts have to be talked about. if you already knew this, why did it take a massive hom us incursion into israel for you to do with this? because it does sounds as though you are joining age around in punishing the whole of the gaza strip for this we don't want to punish the people living in the westbound and regardless of but we had hopes that z o sovereignties of us. they also ins of westbank, where the tough actually is the 70. we had to help set things will develop for the better. but they didn't, and they stuck in the events of the last is proof that they are not developing for
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the better, but they've got was very much was so now we uh we as you mean if we're doing our program subs the right effect, the adults about this right now, i'm and the other point and my question which was if you, if these books and the symmetric, as you say, and you have criticisms of the way the money is being used. why wouldn't you acting on those before? why wait until this happens? there were discussions between the colors and partners in germany, whether to reduce the funds out. for example, if did it go to a go. so education to make it to was going with conditions or not. but as these discussions within the coalitions have not come to an end before. so i know it's a very pressure points, right. the, the priority has grown whole perspective. and there are many change we as a free democrats,
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we always said we have to change our perspective also to 0. so to use, especially in the guy, that's what it was if we democrats was that has announced how much to be a terrorist organization. and the bonus tag and some years ago and said, said say, well, the germany is following this way. so another issue is, or also that we have to ben associations in germany said supporting homeless. the un describes the situation in gaza before the war as a chronic humanitarian. a crisis is the removal of billions in gym and i, the deed of your p and i, you can see how that is likely to make the situation was i think the crisis we had talking about here is a bombardment of israel. is a kidnapping of hundreds of people. it's a murder on hundreds of you. so at least i think this is the crisis we have talking about. and we have to see what is the actual problem. it's
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a terrorist x. and what is the reaction to that? so i think responsible for all that has to be the terrorist organization that is called homeless. germany has long lobbied for a 2 states, a solution to the weekends events, a change that stuffs. and i think that has to be some pre conditions for 2 states. so illusion on the one side of listing and also to use it also recognize the right of the so i have to exist. and then also is a policy in, you know, so it has, it has some legit, tennessee, and we don't have had elections and they've got us rep other westbank for years and years and years. so we're not right now as a preconditions for those uh, 2 states illusion of them. thank you so much for joining us. not knowing that so clearly marked as a fob, a vice chairman of the german is really problem entry group. thank you. thanks everybody. watching data of the news, what am i from by then?
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let me recap. i've top story for you israel's response to those attacks on saturday by how much these are pictures. these are life pictures of a sky of a gaza, where israel has been counting on to ask strikes a game some militant tockets. mister benjamin netanyahu, who studies countries punishment will, in his words change the middle east or the 700 is rain. these have been killed by how mazda attack is more than 500 palestinians in is riley strikes of gaza. israel has denied reports and negotiations to secure the release of hostages, abducted by how much of the iowa. i don't know if it is a professor of political science international relations at james madison college. at michigan state university, just been monitoring is rarely politics for many years. welcome to the w. a. could you? how could you ever have imagined on attack? on the scale of on israel and from within israel or
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yeah, i mean it's, it's, it is very hard to imagine a and it's, it's just a overwhelming and extremely upsetting. it's like having 19 eleven's in israel. if you look at it per population, $700.00 people murdered in their homes and on the streets at peace, music festivals having children and holocaust survivors taken hostage including german citizens. i believe as well. uh is one of the mothers. if you looked at a parent the american population, it would be over $25000.00 people that would be murdered on american territory. and i haven't done the math for what it would be for the german population. but it is an overwhelming force of terror, unspeakable. i have a friend who's a son whose daughter and son in law were murdered by some us terrace in their
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home. they were covering their son who was shot in the stomach who is undergoing surgery, but as it is an unspeakable her. that has happened. when the prime minister says his punishment will change the middle east. what do you think he means? well, um you know, i uh, is a don't believe in punishment sake, and i hope that he will actually not carry out vengeance or punishment, but actually concentrate on getting the hostage back and providing security for, for people which is based on the obligation of a government to protect its citizens, but not necessarily engage in punishment or vengeance, as we also feel for those really civilians and we feel for palestinian civilians. but how much has and has intentionally had this huge escalation in israel knowing
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how israel would respond. one thing is all to respond that way. knowing its own civilians are going to be caught in the mix as they hide among civilians and shoot among civilians. and this is just unspeakable, a trap that they've sped set and we need the international community to be compassionate with israelis was posted in civilians to respect them. and we need the trash community and regional actors to uh, eventually bring the actors to negotiations. and as your previous question until to a uh, twos negotiated, a 2 state solution, unfortunately is a mazda has been a huge spoiler to that. even in the ninety's, when a real progress was made. initially towards that, it was from us who up the suicide bombings. all over israel and for elections especially, that's tried and so it has been a spoiler, a search since the night is until today because they don't want to post in state
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and part of the territory. they want to pass the and state and all of the territory . and so the view they come off has been a huge obstruction to getting to a 2 state solution. and, but we can't be deterred and can cause she ations that the policy already face attacks of, of come at the time when israel was about to normalize ties with our countries. do you seeing that being a backlash to these events? yeah, absolutely. one can't help thinking that one of the master's motivations was to obstruct normalization between saudi arabia and israel, which i hope would have been hinged on pro progress on the is really posted in track and moving towards the 2 state solution. but again, they're of been opposed to a 2 state solution and they've been opposed to normalization boots and saudi arabia and israel. we can't help. so we know that iran is also a back of this. they support and fund and train her mosse and misalignment jihad
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they are on zoo uh, meetings and coordination with them. so we don't have enough evidence to know to what extent it was for this particular weekend. but we know the preparations and backing has been from iran who has a big stake and trying to obstruct saudi is really normalization. so this is a big part of it. and it is going to set that back. and it is very, very unfortunate because it could have, it's under the right conditions, been used by regional actors and european and american actors to facilitate incentives and pressures on the posting authority in israel. and perhaps a change in those really government and the process that would actually would able to make progress towards the 2 state solution. so this is a huge step back and right intended to be. so i, so even if not active participants in the event of size of a usc, iran's fingerprints all over this. absolutely they, they,
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they fund a mazda. and so i'm not sure how they provide them with rockets. they provide them with the training as those has belie who is also backs. they share doctrines and strategies um and so we don't know the extent of the um, the footprint and the actual attacks that this happened this weekend. but there is no question that overtime they're backing it and may have given the green light to it and of course are praising it. so there's certainly connected, it's just a matter of a to what degree. so it's not going for punishment. how does the prime minister now demonstrate to his country that he has the situation that he has israel security under control? yeah, it's a huge, huge, huge dilemma of a no win situation as to how to go about doing this. um, i, you know, myself would believe in trying to get uh towards peaceful processes and
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negotiations as soon as possible. unfortunately, any government that had uh, you know, that has dozens and dozens and up to a 150 hostages uh, by a group that did this on it so ill and so many murders who would have a need to defend itself and have a military action. um, the problem is that uh, if you try the top of a mazda it would come with a huge cost and so that's a trap that could get his blood involved. it has, the law gets involved with this 150000 rockets that could be thousands of israelis poor, killed, more palestinians who are killed. so i mean, there is just nothing but bad choices. it's an extremely upsetting that her mouth says as late as trap, and i would hope that this can be with the help of others, ended and negotiated as soon as possible, so that more civilians are killed. but yes, it's not okay, but really not
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