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leaving the situation open to all scenarios, his leadership was cleared about knots, tending neutral in this a bottle. so far, the escalation on the minis front was a limited even the killing of a husband law number the, the retaliation may be within the a known a rules of engagement to that with his right. but what guarantee is that the existing status cool will last on the border? i would say only has the law has the answer for this the, the, the, the group has its own assessment, an agenda. and although has been less part of the government and the been on is military actions are never discussed in the cabinets. okay, thank you for that in the how much it tried to baby to bureau chief. thank you so much. let's say we don't care and that has been holding a memorial ceremony and saying press for the victims of the hamas attacks. israel
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is on boss of this to jeremy, are on process unbuttons that, that kind of vegas on amongst the government. officials and representatives here to show solar batteries, not political corresponding to emily go the is that as well? welcome, emily. tell us about the service to yes, this service was organized by the jewish about community invalid and it took place just behind me up to send the gold. and the service was intended to come on, like the victims of the how must harris the tax and his role. but also, but it was also assigned to full adoption support to his role in times like these. as he mentioned, among the attendees were high ranking political as it goes, but also families who have relatives in israel, her directly affected by what is happening there. and um, we initially had quite a few speeches and all of them occurred really the same thing that germany stands
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with israel in these times. and in these times it is also very important to show unity. and that was really quite a quote for a very strong message in the speech of the here today, especially from carving of the mayor of button, he reinstated time and again that israel has the right to defend itself. i'm not germany will stand by it. and i thought what sort of reaction has, that'd be the most have driven public to these attacks as well, especially here in belin, yesterday, we saw hundreds of people come out to brandenburg gate to show the support to so this adult solidarity. that being said, we also did see incidences of pro telephone in groups, celebrates in the streets a few kilometers away from here. now the small celebrations was stopped by the bell and police and kind of even though the mayor fell in here in the service again, said that onto some of them has no space in germany. it has no space. that's my
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place in the streets of berlin. and as a result, we also seeing a higher police presence in the streets, not just in the streets, but also in front of juice buildings. and all of this intended reading to show that to choose will be safe in this country. because by land and indeed jeremy has seen an increase in anti semitic attacks of the yes, that's true. we sold the attack in holla synagogue, a few years ago that was really quite shocking and read and it led to a lot of the base in germany, that jewish buildings, jewish sites needs to be protected further. and i mean, we saw in london now i think recently that's the windows of occasional restaurants were broken in. they were, they were smashed with a rock and how find somebody have sprayed and free palace time. i think this is
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also very much reminder about now. generally, we'll have to look very carefully on what is going on in the streets of this country. so make sure about jewish live is protected. the commissioner of the federal commission off of jewish life, and mr. klein was here as well today. and he is, he emphasized about feeling time and again that is germany's to start responsibility to israel and to the jewish people following and the holocaust you know, so i think this will be, remember this, this generally will take this seriously from what i've heard today. and that's what we are going to look at going forward. thanks a lot, emily, i'm going to go team and buddy. now i have a couple of, it's is a political analyst and john list based in jerusalem, asked him about reports of attempts to negotiate for the freedom of
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a kidnapped his writings. a little less report about come us yesterday was that it rejected the idea of negotiations. today we're already hearing reports about as well, trying to negotiate through egypt. i see monetary and sort of deals with change women for women and miners for children that are health hosted within the gotten strict, it's unclear right now how possible this deal will be, but it's definitely something that seems to at least be at the beginning of a discussion, this is something that both sides have much of an interest in israel has never before faced such a situation where so many women and children and the elderly people are held hostage by its enemy. and for how much that would be you to achievement, to succeed and release in many of its prisoners, especially woman prisoners and miners, were held in it's rarely prisons within israel. however, it is still very unclear that this deal will actually take place and sources and israel are denying that they're willing to accept this deal. it doesn't mean that
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they will refuse to it because right now it seems like a bill with very favorable terms. much more favorable than what is real could have expected at least 2 days ago. right. and this is early days. yeah. either that with with some previous president exchanges. oh, excuse me. exchanges of, of hostages that have happened. it has taken months to achieve a deal for more than months, usually takes years of the most famous deal in recent years was that you actually deal sleep was in his room, soldiers taken hostage into the guns and spend 5 years in jail by come off inside the gun and strip there were 2 is really military operations in the gun the strip and eventually he was released in exchange for over $1000.00 palestinian prisoners, 60 percent of which went back to care activity after they were lee. so the whole idea of prisoner exchanges between as well and come up is
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a very sensitive topic and it's rarely public discussion and it's unclear how things will unfold now. so this is must be pushing immense pressure on these regular government. absolutely, this sort of crisis is something that because really, government has never faced before. it's a home proportion of a crisis and it's unclear how it will also dictate the actions of these really governments within the gaza strip. this is part of the reason that the israeli government is trying to put immense humanitarian pressure on the go strip. we heard earlier today i is really security minister. you all got on thing that everything is shut off in the strip right now. electricity, food, fuel, part of the idea, and this is that israel is still not capable of bombing all the almost areas within the guns for it because it's feared it might fit the hospital. so it's trying, instead of that to put some humanitarian pressure on the strip, and the palestinian residents within it and come muscle forces the ruler of the guy,
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the script, and maybe pressure them into going through a deal faster and more favorable terms for israel. so we, we have a government that was already quite fractious, under pressure because of the war because of these hostages. i'm because of these massive a power and failings of a, of these riley and military intelligence. how is that coalition holding as well the coalition as was holding very firmly together. we've heard discussions in the last few days about the alternate, but unity government right now, prime minister in the, in the out, was rejecting these ideas completely several opposition leaders including members of can assist. you used to be chief of staff. the is really military and who can contribute a lot to these really security kevin and said that's all they want as a guarantee is to know that their voice will be heard and the security cabinets. nothing. yeah, i was refusing to give them any guarantee for that. so right now, the general standing, the opposition is to say, we have absolutely no problem to support the government from the outside. we're in
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a situation of war, it's an emergency, but we won't join the government and one join to secure the cabinet. that doesn't allow us to take part and help make some sort of in effect and bring our military experience to the state. okay, so we have a government that for the moment is holding together. we've also seen over the last 3 months, he's right, a society become a quite divided with mass protests against the government's political reforms, targeting democratic institutions. how is vs wall changing those splits in society as well? it's very much different, 180 degrees to the other direction. the protests we've sent in as well. and the last 2 months were the largest, most well organized pro israel has ever seen before. it took less than 4 hours from the beginning of this war until all the logistical infrastructure of these protests went from organizing people and driving buses to protest against the government,
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into driving soldiers to the front, to buying food and purchasing equipment to bring them to the soldiers, this is somewhat of a compensation for the malfunction of the governmental organizations and the institution. but all of the pros, disorganization, and all of its infrastructure was immediate. if we channelled into supporting the military efforts into supporting the military itself and the citizens in the front were seeing immense efforts of civil society and as well to help this front it to support the civilians. as there is an understanding that the is really government right now is incompetent and is not functioning as expected. so thoughts and on are of age, riley's arab is very soon for 20 percent around of the population. how would they now regarded in this time of war as well? i think it's a very complex time to be an error in israel. obviously the fear and anger in the jewish society in israel is very high and people are only looking for an
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opportunity for a class of people still remember the classes that happened just 2 years ago during the month of may where city mixed city of arabs and jews went into a tremendous riot and the act of violence, one against the other. but right now it seems like people are waiting to see how things unfold. it's not out of the questions that these rights will be rough, and things will get much worse. right now it seems like the ards, within his route or waiting to see what's the response and we have to mention, there were 260 people killed because rarely in the party next to the gods. a border, many of them were arab citizens. so think there's also somewhat of a sense within the arab society and israel that this war is not just between arabs and jews, which very much between gaza in the territory. that is israel, including everyone within it, including the arab citizens. it's kind of a new situation and i think that's the site and as well as film adapting to it. because of course they,
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they are bas riley's haven't relatives in the palestinians who will have been boned . of course, many of them have relatives in the west back in the gaza strip. most of them identify his palestinians that their national identity. it always has been however, the live in the state of as well. and they're quite in complex situation right now . okay, good. talking to you, i thanks so much for taking us through that. so clearly. so in this that a couple of it's in jefferson. thank you for having the provisions as it suspending all 8 payments to the palestinians with immediate effect. a commission, all of a heavy posted on the ex, fully notice twitter, the scale of tenant and brutality against each room. and its people is a turning point that can be no business, as usual, as the biggest donor of the palestinians. and you are paying commissioners putting its full development portfolio under review. was a total of $691000000.00 yours. when i asked the
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correspondent in brussels band re get some more detail on this decision that you have the commission of a healy is talking about the about the development 8 that is paid of from you funds and to the palestinian authority. and this is not the money that for example, goes into humanitarian assistance, the also a 300000000 euros for food stamps, for social allowances, for medical equipment and things like that. this money is as far as we know, not concerned yet. so the normal people, so to speak, in the, in the gaza and the best thing for us to have access to that money. and but you also have to say, this is not the, the us, not the only one is suspending things. also, the german government of yours and government, they all declared today that they have been stopped at the development health of which normally goes into projects like infrastructure building,
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how the building and things like that. and all, and all that you is the biggest donor international devise. since 1993, a point, 5000000000 years has been paid to the public opinion of hard to use and to and also to other 8 organizations in g o's that have funding the money into the rest into a the got a sense, excuse me, because there are no direct contacts that seem to you and how most, which scene is a terror organization in europe. right. and so what have all of a sudden, millions of, i mean you are always in aid to palestinians in gaza. what have they been used for? of the 1500000 people in gaza strip dependent on donations and on the allowances from the outside because there's no books this of the people on the siege more or less, they are totally isolated. so those are the 3 quarter of the inhabitants and guys
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underneath is held from the outside. and it's not only done by the you, it's also done by the united nations, which has an especially organization called over. and this is also funded by the you and these funds will flow further as we understand. so it's basically to buy food and medicine for the people and garza, i felt bad, bad vegas in brussels. what's the driving force is kind of out, those retaliatory strikes against thomas and the gaza strip. israel has also ordered the total blockade of the territory, including a hold to food, both the power supplies, and then unprecedented. 300000 reserves have been mobilized following each round declaration of war against thomas of the is really tanks gathered in fields outside gaza, after the vine into incursion and terrorist attacks by minutes. and we promise hundreds of thousands of his riley army reservists onto the quote. i don't know
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what the limit we are imposing a complete siege on gaza. so it will be no electricity, no food, no more to no fuel and everything will be closed. so we are fighting against human animals, and we are seeing accordingly, hospitals in casa, already feeling the effects of the brocade running out to critical supplies to treat the many injured by the ongoing strikes headsets, fluid. and unfortunately, the amount of medical supplies we need to deal with these injuries is insufficient . there just isn't enough. and some of the medicines are not available in the stores of the ministry of health and reform. there's also the threat of running out of fuel into power outage. medical operations cannot be performed in emergency departments without fuel or electricity and the zip is mile say, is it just targeting facilities and headquarters of how much? and you had 10 of his groups, but hundreds of civilians are being hit by the missile defense that across guys that began to,
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to i was in my house with my children. i was sleeping in the morning. so came to me . so i was like right now, we wait, spiker vox and the children were fleeing. some people we interviewed to us, and others made monsters by the forwarding with both of us. when we fled to the schools, my daughter was hitting the had time job. i'll have to do that as well. say's the board is with gods and will stay tight closed, reinforced by tanks law. so just sky with this out. so i have mass fights is about the rocket. fire continues into israel. the and so does the aerial bombardment of the gaza strip saving further infiltration by militants, as well as all sort, deploying troops and tanks along its northern border river. they've been on
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shedding the area as i try to push back the sweat has belonged to being was born in kind is while now faces the very real prospect of a multi fun tool. and the rest of the world can only watch and hope that that doesn't happen. well, you know, i don't know if there is a professor of international relations at james madison college at michigan state university in the united states. she's been monitoring is very politics for many years as to whether she could ever have imagined attack on this scale or yeah, i mean it's, it's, it is very hard to imagine a and it's, it's just uh, overwhelming and extremely upsetting. it's like having 19 eleven's in israel. if you look at it per population, $700.00 people murdered in their homes and on the streets at peace, music festivals having children and holocaust survivors taken hostage including
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german citizens. i believe as well. uh is one of the mothers. if you looked at a parent the american population, it would be over $25000.00 people that would be murdered on american territory. and i haven't done the math for what it would be for the population. but it is an overwhelming force of tear unspeakable. i have a friend whose son, whose daughter and son in law were murdered by a mass uh terrace in their home. they were covering their son who was shot in the stomach who is undergoing surgery. but as it is an unspeakable her that has happened when the prime minister says his punishment will change the middle east. what do you think he means? well, um you know, i, uh, or
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a don't believe in punishment sake, and i hope that he will actually not carry out vengeance or punishment, but actually concentrate on getting the hostage back and providing security for, for people which is based on the obligation of a government to protect its citizens, but not necessarily engage in punishment or vengeance. as we also feel for those rarely civilians are we feel for palestinian civilians. but how mosse has and has intentionally had this huge escalation is well known and how is role would respond. one thing is all to respond that way. knowing its own civilians are going to be caught in the mix as they hide among civilians and shoot among civilians. and this is just unspeakable, a trap that they've sped a set and we need the international community to be compassionate with israelis was
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posted in civilians to respect them. and we need the chest community and regional actors to uh, eventually bring the actors to negotiations. and as your previous question until to a uh, to go see did a 2 state solution, unfortunately is how much has been a huge spoiler to that. even in the ninety's, when the real progress was made initially towards that it was from us who of the suicide bombings, all over israel and for elections especially, that's trying to end. so it has been a spoiler of systems tonight is until today because they don't want to post in state and part of the territory they want to pass. so you can state and all of the territory. and so they have you, they come off, has been a huge obstruction to getting to a 2 state solution and, but we can't be deterred and can cause she ations that the policy already face attacks of, of come at the time when israel was about to normalize ties with our countries, do you seeing that being a backlash to these events or yeah, absolutely,
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one can't help thinking that one of the mazda is motivations was to have struck normalization between saudi arabia and israel, which i hope would have been hinged on pro progress on the is really posted in track and moving towards the 2 state solution. but again, they're of been opposed to a 2 state solution and they've been opposed to normalization, become saudi arabia and israel. we can't help. so we know that iran is also a back of this. they support and fund and train her moss and as long as you hi there on zoo uh meetings and coordination with them. so we don't have enough evidence to know a to what extent it was for this particular weekend, but we know the preparations and backend has been from are on who has a big stake and trying to obstruct saudi is really normalization. so this is a big part of it, and it is going to set that back. and it is very,
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very unfortunate because it could have, it's under the right conditions, been used by regional actors and european and american actors to facilitate incentives and pressures on the posting authority in israel. and perhaps a change in those really government and the process that would actually would able to make progress towards the 2 state solution. so this is a huge step back and right intended to be. so i, so even if not actually if participants in the event of size of a usc iran's fingerprints all over this, absolutely they, they, they fund a mazda. and so i'm not sure how they provide them with rockets. they provide them with the training as those has belie who it also backs the share doctrines and strategies um and so we don't know the extent of the um, the footprint and the actual attacks that that happened this weekend. but there's no question that overtime they're backing it and may have given the green light to
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it and of course are praising it. so there's certainly connected, it's just a matter of a to what degree. so it's not going full punishment. how does the prime minister now demonstrate to his country that he has the situation that he has israel security under control? you know, it's a huge, huge, huge dilemma of a no win situation is the how to go about doing this. um, i, you know, myself would believe in trying to get towards peaceful processes and negotiations as soon as possible. unfortunately, any government, uh, you know, that has dozens and dozens and up to a 150 hostages uh by a group that did this on it. so ill and so many murders um, it would have a need to defend itself and have a military action. um, the problem is that uh,
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if you try the top of a mazda it would come with a huge cost. and so that's a trap that could get has blood involved. it has the line gets involved is 150000 rockets. that could be thousands of israelis poor, killed, more palestinians who are killed. so i mean there is just nothing but bad choices. it's an extremely upsetting that home off as, as late this trap, and i would hope that this can be with the help of others, ended and negotiated as soon as possible, so that more civilians are killed. but yes, it's not. okay. i believe a professor times are against the professor. yeah. go on and off from michigan state university. thank you so much. thank you. or maybe tap on the top story here on dw israel's response to the of tides. by how much of these like pictures of the sky of a gaza, where israel has been counting our strikes against met at g tockets by minister
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benjamin netanyahu. his studies countries punishment will, in his words change the middle east at least $800.00. these writers have been killed by having us attacked as more than 500 public stadiums. kelvin is riley strikes against gaza. israel has denied report 70 goes jason's to secure the release of hostages, abducted by how boss. so let's take you back to israel, then we can join that corresponding to rebecca richardson ash don't in the south the country. welcome. and rebecca, let's stop with the situation in a gas and israel at the moment. well, feel sadly, the death toll on both sides. he keeps rising. we've just had some latest figures from these riley side. more bodies have been found as the military go through the communities that were overtaken by hamas militants and with terror rising the
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people there and murdering them. and they're now finding more bodies that def, told around $900.00 at the moment on the guards inside there, they need a constant, bombardments. we can have them here even an act, obviously a little bit further away than where we've been full day. we've been a lot closer to the border and we can see the as trying some hid them out as well as the artillery strikes, firing into the guys are old days of the death toll. that is so going up the civilian death toll. there are the confirmed that told close to $500.00 at this stage, but it's very hard to see how it comp be a lot more than that. so i'm sure we'll be hearing new figures and if not tonight, then tomorrow, as i say, the, the consistent bombardment as israel, the military say that they are continuing the mandate of what they've been told to do by the government. which is to make sure that i'm us and has no military capabilities anymore. and looking at my pictures of the guys as you speak up,
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rebecca with the low from fires and the at the distance that have being reports that how much is threatening to kill hostages. and what are you hearing is we have, we have seen that we have heard that sits come from a home us spokesman, who said that the continued in israel continues to target civilians that it will start to, to, to know the hostages. and it will be doing that to on video for all to see. so we haven't seen any evidence of that yet. and as i say the strikes are continuing. um, it's too early to know whether or not that would carry that through. but it's, it is not hard to believe that that could be a potential tactic that him us might try and use we still don't know exactly how many hostages that i hope being held captive. but the israeli military say that
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they are now aware of the number and they have the full dates, house of everybody that is being held in that as soon as all of the families are notified, you know, those figures will start to come out to the major as well, so we still don't know exactly how many hostages are being held in guns. the box. uh, it does sound like that number is going to be quite alarming racks. israel has announced a full blockade of a gauze that including cutting off power water supplies. what response has, has they've been from inside the territory so hasn't made any particular response to that specific thing. we did hear from these really defense minister earlier today saying that that indeed would be happening that that would be no food fuel electricity. every gas would be completely cut off as they try. so i continue pushing on with it with a they were trying to get their hosted as out, trying to defeat the homeless terrorist organization and military capabilities,
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all of her moss. i mean the, the, the sad fact, so it was of course for the civilians living in gaza. it isn't just full of militants there. of course, to minutes of indians living in garza who are all already under a blockade who i who, who already have a lack of access to a lot of facilities and a lot of food. and it will be a really devastating and di situation for the civilians. the as the been continually bombarded with rockets and ms tiles. right. and in terms of a response, as we've seen the bump bottom and we're still looking at those pictures of gaza, the bombardment continues the 300000 army reservists, uh cold up on the public and fully behind the government it does appear so yes, i mean there are many is riley's who of course don't want to say palestinian
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