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the security services didn't notice that there was something that there was something going on, but i think that they took the wrong conclusions, or even worse they, i learned it is rarely politics and they ignore the advice of, of the security service old basically d and d analysis also security service, one way or the other business, a mass of political failure and the massive failure of these ready security services. on the other end of that question, of course is how did how mosse manage to build up the results is to launch this unprecedented attack. what, how did they get? how did, how did they get hold of, of the, the weapons in order to achieve this? what 1st of all, we haven't seen from what we know from pictures and videos. we haven't seen any weapons used in this attack, which we didn't know that they're in the professional from us. so usually they get their weapons, food tunnels, smuggling, mostly through egypt,
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provided by you wrong. but this is something which goes on a 4th decade. so we don't know about any new types of weapons they use. so the weapons they use with the weapons. we know i'm us was in possession with the off by was, was surprising was the cool the nation of this attack because this is a tech happens from a land from, from air and from sea. and the interplay between the 3 dimension is something which is usually unknown for home us. right? let's zoom out. so that is a risk, that based severity of age miles response a could draw all the white region into this conflict. one of those things that uh this uh, will depend on the severity of israel's response. i mean, there are the, might be the opening, i mean to say from off the might be the opening all the seconds from the north of his world by his ball law. and then israel with will face
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a 2 front war which will post enormous challenges for you as well. secondly, imagine that israel is able to crash him off and to defeat his ball law, there might be any rang and reaction. and then we're on an uncontrollable situation . in the whole region. so this conflict has really the potential to spill over to more act uh, to more actors in the region, to more players in the region and become kind of uncontrollable. it's very clear, good talking to offensive to history about color masala from that one is very university. i'm unique. you're welcome. aboard of between is around 11 on. there's also seen exchanges of rocket 5 is writing, ministry says it's killed, a number of suspects that a fear is the conflict between these ro on how much could spread to that, but on the left and these economies already and at diet states. and many of this made by the prospect of fresh dr. monday morning and to be rude. cafe,
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some friends are playing a game with back gunman, others a, glued to the news. the escalation between israel and the mass has been closely watched by people here that worried the conflict could spill over into 11 on each of them has lived through was between israel and 11 on the last in 2006. how to behave with the boys really, the last thing we need now look the, our economy is already in shambles. much modular, how to buses, all arts, how do you have them? okay, the problem, i'm worried about my children, about my family behind the boulder. israel is strengthening its positions, then in the afternoon fighting erupt, these ready all nice as it killed him, portrayed his entering from lebanon after that is rarely had, he kept his a tech positions in southern lebanon. this is where he rains aside, and those are all a lead up the uranium fact militant group has the law on the weekend to support as
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rallied the message we already had come back, as well as the strongest military force in lebanon on sunday. it said it had fired missiles and shelves towards israel, but on monday, the night, any involvement in the latest attacks a log book has been law is said, cautious because at 1st he knows, what would it be? the price of it is that you didn't made it to the strike, a confrontation would be bad for business. just last year, these railey and lebanese government signed a historic agreement on gas exploration in the mediterranean, even has the law accepted the deal. he's putting the money time uh bought the deed was uh, is that i end up on the which both parties have agreed to uh, define their money time border and to split that other than you money that heavily indebted lab and own depends on and that revenue would be on the line if
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a fresh war broke out with israel. but william west, the, a senior director of the roof recovery center, he joined us from abu dhabi and asked him if he believes, has blah, and do ron when they say they have no part in the how much the tax as well around? obviously how to part and these attacks because it has been the primary beneficial benefactor of hamas. homos would not have the weapons and materials needed for this attack without around i'm honest, would not have the training to these attacks without around. it's uh, it didn't for just so to that degree it's a little beside the point of whether or not around was specifically responsible typically for planning the operation. but it's all, and furthermore it's, it's hard to imagine that the leaders in toronto were not aware of it before hand.
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so whether they were involved tactically, to give the specific go order or not, they still there significant responsibility. and has the law a lie is less immediately obvious. i've seen reports that they were involved in this specific planning. we don't know that yet to be the case. what we do know is that those public reports were source to people in how mosque and has the law and to people close to the government in damascus, all of which are a rainy and allies and proxies. and so the message clearly is desired to get out there that around was behind this and you. so then you ask yourself, why does around want that message to get out there? well, it's because they very much want israel to do the kinds of to take the kinds of actions that would result in this war. expanding beyond one simply between or
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israel and moss into one that would be multi front and regional in nature. in fact, that's the only way that hamas can win this war. if it's just between israel and homos, um, then this war was over and how moss has lost the moment they decided to start it. do you anticipate visual moving in that direction? multi front and regional, as i think sad. com. that's what around once i don't think that that's what is real watson. i think israel will be doing everything that it can and its allies around the world. think of the united states, we doing everything they can to avoid that outcome. we do not want the westbank to um, to immersion to a 2nd front. we do not want riots amongst arab is rallies. um, uh, to become prevalent. the way they started to the last time that there was a military engagement between israel and i'm us, and we certainly don't want there to expand to the north because has laws
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capabilities divorced that of from us. so there's a lot of work being done diplomatically. right? now, to put pressure on all of the governments that have the ability to influence a moss and have the ability to influence actors like has blog to say don't go down this path. and there's also actions being taken. for instance, the united states moving its aircraft, carrier strike group to the region to intended to deter actors like has the law from taking from getting engaged in the war directly. but haven't we already seen that is really miss? how's that heading? i know towards i presume to has the physicians on the board as we've seen a minor things being taken. there's, there certainly, we should not expect nothing to happen from as the law has law can't allow this situation to go through and, and say at the end of the day that it did nothing. but the question is,
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what it does, what we've seen thus far is the kind of a tit for tat reactions that, that are not uncommon, sadly enough on israel's northern border. israel is, is, uh, is, is reinforcing that northern border and one thing that has the law will not have that come off had, is the element of surprise. and so israel will be well positioned to respond rapidly to any thing that uh, that has the law does. so all of these are the types of actions that are designed to avoid a real 2nd front and this for. okay, so if i understand you correctly, and we should look at this in why the terms and just have mass launching on attack on, on israel. this is a mass and it's back us who seek to inflame a regional conflict. if you look at the other end of that and at what israel is
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response, where just is rails response. where is that likely to? and we've, we've heard a benjamin netanyahu talking about a israel's response changing the middle east. it seems. well, so many same thing. see, i'm think about. but it seems on thinkable that the end of this will, ends with the status quo and say ends with where we were before with this simmering resentment and take photography. this is a game changer. if i can use that type cliche or the cliche though tired is appropriate, as at least when it comes to gaza, there is a consensus within israel and all the people that i've talked to there that there is no way that at the end of this operation, the exact same situation will be allowed to continue with her boss uh, being in complete control of the entire territory of gaza and doing and be able to
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build the capabilities to take the kinds of actions that they were doing today. but there will be some in israel who will be advocating for renewed occupation, going back to what it was before 2005. there will be others that will be advocating for a re installment of the palestinian authority's responsibilities in gaza. which ended in 2007 went home us. i took it away by force. there will still be others that will be arguing for a new type, a new strong man emerging from hamas or being imported from elsewhere. these are all the questions that are being asked now and what they all come down to is the same question that general betray us asked in 2003 before the united states. and they did a rack. how does this and what does the governance structure of, of guys a look like afterwards because it's not going to look like what it was before to
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israel's credit. they are asking that question now. they don't have the answers yet . thank you for talking. i sat through that to when they wexler from the atlantic capital. thank you. thank you very much. well, a foreign policy chief, joseph burrell, has said that the over whelming majority of member states in favor of continuing co operation with the palestinian authority. speaking in the last few minutes of the news conference and the omani capital mister, brad also said israel had the right to defend itself, but the world should use the escalation to solve the conflict. so i just had to singles about what is going on, what, what would happen after for that you have to increase a reputation with that, it will, i would have to recalibrate an upgrade. the initiative would be took some months ago together with that of leak with as you with jordan. michelle's your idea
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in order to revive the had a base plan on to remind a will that the police tedium problem still exist that to make peace between not countries unusual is good to necessary, but also these has to be done with the police doing it. otherwise this via the cycle of violence will raise start your game as a burnout. let's go through this with that jack, patrick and brussels. welcome jack. the use response to the conflict saying israel has been massy at times in the last few days. is this message from the foreign ministers like me to provide clarity? so yeah, i think it is. we've seen, as you say, a bit of a, a bit of a chaos of communication. frankly, thousands of the institutions here in brussels, where a libby vi hey, who's the, the commission of a region. so the neighborhood of the european union suites it to say the funding
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for palestine would be. and i what joseph beretta say is that essentially the funding will continue the majority of member states in the european union 203. he said maybe didn't agree, but the overwhelming majority said that you might, as henry and 8 should continue to go to the palestinian authorities, the he was the biggest donor of age, around 619000000, yours every year. it goes to support the citizens in the palestinian territory is now what you have done in the last day also has agreed to have a review of that money to check that it is absolutely not going in to the hands of the how much terrorist organization and joseph very again, was the, was keen to say that that was the case that, that that review will continue. but we know neither the people with the real power, which is the foreign ministers who be meeting that in a month. they say that the funding will continue to go and it will not be suspended as had been suggested. but and what seems to be being a rogue statement by that commission to yesterday, right. i,
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i'm does this cover humanitarian aid for, for palestine in general as well. will money still go into the territories? us? yes. and seemingly. so that's what, that's what this looking like. this the question is as well, whether development money should be, should be stopped. what exactly should happen? but what we've heard this, this coming from j separate relating to the foreign minister as being an agreement, that funding to continue that, that review not looks at where the money is going. know the, the amount of money all the way in which it's delivered will be structurally changed that money. the way the works is it gives money to civil society organizations. the charities to make sure that people who need support to need a can get to it while they're doing is reviewing to check, but no sense of that is going to terrace tons. essentially i said, jack gotcha power in russell's more than a 100 bodies have been found at the.

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