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the rages people are trying to stem the turkish governments, all sorts of gibs. but only if the crime is addressed and the power of attorney to takes responsibility for his actions. guardians of trees starts october 28th on d. w. the on saturday. how boss militants went on a killing rampage inside is real. truss passers and terrorist and one, leaving almost a 1000 people dead. many in their own hopes. it has taken 4 days for israel's security forces to regain control of the border with gauze of how long will it take to rescue the hostages inside? gone to a 150 of the most of them israel. it's what will the orders b for his rarely soldiers search and rescue or attack and destroy,
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or will it be both? i bring gulf and berlin. this is the day. the savage attacks that come us perpetrated against it, as it is rarely a mine, bought, sold a lot silver and bought a piece. it's a most okay, so everything but something like that. so we remain extremely alone. fight the strategy escalate to events, the what is our fault, what did my children do? the company that come from us opportunities have no way to hide in gaza. we will and reach them. the also coming up this half hour iran has cheered on the attacks by him off it has denied
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that it had anything to do with them as unlikely. and as improbable as that may be . as to the question of whether or ron knew about this attack in advance or health plan or direct us attack, we do not. as at the moment, i'm standing here at the podium. have confirmation of that. for to our viewers watching on tv as in the united states into all of you around the world. welcome. we begin the day with the picture of terror carried out by a moss inside is real, with his rarely forces back in control along the border with gaza. the details of saturday's massacre and blood bath are now coming to light. officials today reported finding bloated bodies and decapitated babies inside a could, but not more than 2 miles from the gauze border. the death toll from saturdays terror attacks now stands at more than $900.00. israel remains
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a country in shock. it is also a country for now you find it. in the past 4 days that some 360000 reserves have been called up. a mobilization of this magnitude and speed never before seen in modern is really history. foreign minister netanyahu he has predicting a long war against a mazda that would change the entire middle east. well, israel's allies are promising full support. the european union is calling for restraint, concern that israel's military attack against him off will result in a collective punishment for palestinian civilians. we have this report me saw blas echo throughout garza raising whole buildings to the ground in seconds. israel says it's military offensive against the palestinian militants behind soft. today's attack
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will continue disputed shows the movements that missiles hit. what b is really all me says a 2 set per mosque months and has in gaza on the ground. residents a gathering the belongings and trying to escape as the strikes continue, whole neighborhoods are quickly becoming uninhabitable. and as the number of injured increases hospitals the struggling yeah. do you have the full this is randy . as drank the medical situation in guys i had already been green for nearly 17 years. the hospitals have been seriously hampered by the siege. we don't have the access to many medical supplies, drugs and equipment in guys, out above,
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as the israel has announced, a new siege of garza cutting of food fuel electricity and water supplies. a mazda is trying to increase the pressure on israel's leaders by threatening revenge for the strikes on gauze a but, you know, who mean had, he said, no, early, no, we announced that's daunting. now, every target thing about people without warning, will regrets. if need be met with the execution of one of the enemies civilian hostages, hear the hear nothing. we will be compelled to broadcast it. you know, both audio west and video valley come with bullying before will be was full. but as well shows no sign of backing down in an effort to maximize its cheap strength is really full. so started flying citizens back from europe to be mobilized as reserved this a beloved join. now, by marshy zimmerman,
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he is and is really historian and a leading authority on nationalism and anti semitism. he joins me tonight from jerusalem. mr. timmerman, we appreciate you for staying up the talk with us this evening. i'm sure you've heard the news is really forces today saying that they have re gained total control . that is really territory along the border with gaza, but they didn't do it in time to prevent the kidnapping of some 150 people who were now hostages. in the hands of her mos what does history tell you about the chances of getting these hostages out safe and sound? well, it is a very tragic. it's totally that way or it's very hard to get the officers back from any of our country and especially with the phone, the home us. we had already
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a long story about the getting that one soldier, all the one, the civilian know we have to do with the whole group of more than a 100 people. so the chances of getting that back. so even if we already, if these are ready to pay the price is very low. what is the readiness in is rarely society, in your opinion, of accepting the price being collateral damage that these hostages may have to die in order to defeat a mos. whether it is quite clear that the army is going to try to free those hostages, but falls into of course, we know that this is a very difficult task, or the general public is of course on full freeing the people who but they
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think the tongue software on that why and bone being the are the god the street, this is going to bring about the death of the last to do is to the wishful revenge, i think is it the whole point so strong to the other considerations? it would be coming more background configuration. it is a very cool decision to be my foster. my impression is that people are ready to take the risk. they are old for punishing the arab's punishing the people of god of cause punishing from us. and they are ready to pay the price the prime minister of his real letting yahoo, he says that he is going to change the middle east. and when you hear
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him say that, um, what do you understand in that statement? change it in what way? i mean, what will this new, this different middle east look like after this attack on him? ok. or what i'm a is really, is a, is very, i got us to not to believe to anything that the my prime minister says, but i understand. well, 10 things to do, he wants to erase from us. and they may be even more than only from us. he wants to change their balance of power in gaza and wrong got in between these right in the are of neighbors by publishing. and some us old by punishing garza lid as a general idea. yeah, i don't believe while i don't think so. it is going to achieve the real change if he is not going to be ready to deal with the palestinians especially. and they, the bill is off day, or this daniel authority, as long as you don't stop,
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you don't show any signs of waiting. they have to have really peace with the palestinians. are most of being a boss from us and talking about the policy, both in the west bank. then of course, you're not going to change anything, bradley, because we did so on the conduct the slogan that the use of, you know, all the 2 or console on the he's rarely so i know that you've been critical of netanyahu's government and that you've called this more a failure of is really state. what exactly do you mean by that? so he's really state was created in order to be a safe haven for jewels from all over the world. we know about the story or did you within the gas or on the 18th century, in the 12th century, to, to a pull room by the non jews, by christian, by others in the idea of the deal. certainly the more to create the state to create
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a place in which to us we live safely. this is something that was really destroyed by the what happened yesterday and you know, the gaza strip jewels in use really in the summer instead of these really in the submarines painful, the vi on these move in folders will put the wrong the same way as it was in the 18 century and 19 century is still in europe or even joining the 2nd level when the nazis invaded is invaded the sale if the state has failed in its obligation to protect the people in israel. um, let me ask you personally, do you feel less safe now then you did a week ago. i mean what have the events from saturday?
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what did they done to your notion of, of personal safety inside the jewish state of israel, a way of clothes i expect. these were the only way to protect the most of these various society. this holds an exception this occurrence the 3 days ago. but in general, one must save to his ways because he is really stayed. he is very with the state that is not very successful in really keeping the safety of these rated people. it's not on your program or such a brutal effect, but the one from god. this is something that you feel in the everyday life. there is something wrong about the way the way the user, the politics understand their duty, to walk the people and the deal of the world history. historian, washington member, mr. zimmerman,
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i wish we had more time to talk about this. but i certainly appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts with this tonight. thank you. thank you very much. well, earlier tonight you, as president joe biden said that he is ready to order additional military forces to the middle east in support of israel. he confirmed that american citizens were among the hundreds killed and among the scores of hostages. taken by him, i see called the terror act, an act of sheer evil were traveling the moss, his blood thirsty, and this praise the mine, the worst, the worst rampages devices. this is terrace. so in this moment, we must be crystal clear. we stand with israel. mazda is not stand for the power. steering is people's right to a degree, the self determination. the state of purposes is not lation of the state of israel
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and the murder of jewish people. loss of innocent life is heartbreaking. like every nation in the world is who has the right to respond? indeed, has a duty to respond to these vicious attacks in our washington bureau ged this policy was following president bind's remarks. she gave me her main take away. hi brenda, it's ralph for him to he was so descriptive, so strong words talking about a slaughtered bodies, butchered bodies, babies, and hollow costs. survivors which were killed. so this is definitely something which is really close to his heart. um his uh, speech was clear, strong heartful, as i said, and he left no doubt at all that he and his administration stands behind is where i without any hesitation in bed, and i quote him here, you as has israel's back, he reiterated. and that does not come as a surprise military and economic support and stated that the response of the us
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will be swift and decisive. and over whelming, he also said that he was urge congress for urgent action on funding. and then that is interesting because pretty much everything here in the united states is so politicized. he said that this is not about party or politics, that this is about the security of the whole world. and brendan, as we all live, so it's just coming in, the bible is sending his a state, his secretary of state is tops diplomat blinking to israel, who is supposed to arrive there this thursday. israel has declared war on him, off and bound to destroy its ability to govern. garza, the militant palestinian implements group is considered a terrorist organization by the european union and the united states. here's more
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now on what homos represents of the kansas street, where the israeli defense forces have been striking targets belonging to the militant islam is thomas and palestinian islamic. and you have groups. it's from this densely populated enclave line between israel, egypt and the mediterranean sea. that promise has for years launched rockets into israel. the group has governed the over 2000000 residents in gaza since 2007. since then, gaza has been seen as enemy territory by israel, and has remained largely sealed off these rail controls access by land, sea, and air. the militant islam is group rejects any piece process with this row and coons for its destruction. thomas is designated a terrorist group by israel,
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the united states, the you and the united kingdom, among other countries. thomas is part of a regional alliance that includes iran, syria, and the is list organization has blocked 11 on which opposes us policies towards them. at least in these route. the you and other countries have deemed test by a terrorist organization. how much has carried out attacks on israel, which have led to 4 major military conflicts with the israeli army in 2008, 200920122014, and 2021. thomas has warned that these latest wave of attacks are just the beginning and cold on other groups to join the fight. just how much depends on $4.00 and $8.00 of all kinds. a lot of that aid comes from iran for the wrong supreme leader. i a total all the how many he says
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that t, ron had no role in the from aust terrorist attacks on saturday at the same time. he praised the operation as an rubber bo military and intelligence defeat and run into mos share the declared aim of destroying the state of israel. my next guest now is dantes the turn of it see she is with the institute for national security studies. intel of eve previously headed up rainy and research for israel's military intelligence. it's good to have you with this this evening. iran has denied being involved in these attacks. what so ever? is that even plausible a well, a week time, a stand relations between how much time that you run. you run the sending money to run, of course, sending alms to run training in the parentheses by the end of the day. uh, how much is it part of seeing interest movement in
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a ways that the solely independent, especially in the gaza strip. so there is, of course, the support of the ron to come by cic tv. but technically speaking, once we sold today and what the so in the last couple of days is a, a tech carried out by come, us operated by come us and come on. doesn't need the approval of the run to launch these attacks. so in that regard, it is possible of we'll do some sort of cold donation in the background over all the time. by the end of the day. it's so that you run needs to, to approve. amy attack can be done by come us the support, the move, maybe it's ability to see these, but that's the key operationally on the ground. i'm asking the defendant to do what he wants, what he's able to do. so actually what we sold today is that we use as to teaching, supposed by uh by you arrive, but i'm doubtful that from us the did the approval overrun. okay, okay, are we now the subject? so, so, to what extent then would you say that how much is
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a tool for iran such as other groups like, has blog in lab and not to well, there is a distance between the seeds below and come on since so many ways as well as the shape uh, movement is actually dispute ahead of you on the cvs, the uh, in the mean, the least. and how much is it but a single moment, assuming movement is actually supported by you run? no, because of the, the logic, the reasons. yes. i suppose the reason of both are kind of both uh, a move in country uh wants to destroy the state of each route. but one is sony. one is she. so it's more uh, less ideological, more uh, in interest to white and so many ways. so its not that, um, uh, come us uh is uh, assuming that too is valid and that means that the effect, but we have to understand what the one is trying to do is actually build the circle of fire around the sits a visa. it wants to the therapy as well, from
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a tech to run. so he chooses to buy like chooses other movements. uh uh, organizations organization like the shape uh movements in the rack. linda, who does any um and like the like from us in the, in the go, the stooping west bank in order to constantly suppress ease, right? if somebody is so in that way it's similar to his butler, but because by the end you run has to teach a quote to make to the relations that the less than what you see today between you run and come us again. you run these back and come up with so many ways bucks from, from technical reason, oppression. the reason come us is really independent the in its own weight and i was reading today. so iran has this goal of annihilating is real by what one person has described as a 1000 cuts in that goes along with what you're saying. building this circle around is real. so it is a loss for iran, one of those 1000 cuts that would contribute to the destruction of israel to
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definitely um and, and then we run and come us looking the long term solution. it does, it is thinking that they can distort use real tomorrow. but they believe this uh, a run this a tags at the curb unit as well. uh, one wait for that in its submission uh, vision to the store to split the vision. so that's why we, so even if you run didn't know about the attack, technically it will support it because it's really, it's part of his grand strategy. the other day to make use read disappeared from the map and this, but it was something that was supposed to. now it's important to say one important thing. despite the fact that we, again, we all can only assume for why the american restrictions thing and what the come up saying on the ground that there is no called the nation between come us and you weren't before the attack itself. i'm not saying you run one supposed come us actively in the interview in days to come. we still in the beginning stages of the
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companion of these rel again from us. and if from us will find itself in a dire situation. we cannot truly out that you run. we ask that we support. i'm us not only by uh, trying to send um the other elements, but also may be threatening israel to stop it's activity in gaza strip. so the fact that we didn't see this kind of technical compression doesn't say one, see that the meeting base to come? yeah. and the timing of these attacks that we saw on saturday and they looked like, right? you could, you know, see them as being a means at and disturbing what has been this building of improve relations between is real and other error countries. i'm talking to, particularly between israel and saw that you're ready to be up. and it would definitely be in it runs interest for from us to attack and create what it has created this, this up for,
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and destroy any goodwill that may have been coming from saudi arabia towards israel . the most definitely things that uh you run is really, really annoyed from that nobody's ation uh, between the east rarely in the gulf states and especially this prospect of and why they should between use well inside the radio. this is something that boot real jeopardy towards the rodney run, see this kind of coordination and between the, even the storage of the something that really jeopardizing its core interest in the region and beyond. so invest, we've got, it's not the come us initiated that because of you run a because, or trying to uh us who some obstacle in, in the donations between these when a sudden a bill. but for sure, you run on this, then they've held that in that regard. so we'd, so it's move supported. i think that even more than that, what come us is trying to do right now, despite the fact that probably started,
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like we mentioned the campaign alone, they want to gather the run without doing through the company. and we still wasn't hama this the head of the, uh, who am i, was actually and goes to sleep, try to say, trying to do in the beginning stages of the campaign, trying to call for uh, other uh, fronts to be open. and they think that these, the, these ation is something that you run can relate to. but we have to understand one in both of the things that the iran is very hesitant to open new fronts. it doesn't tend to get into development, but the kind of posts the full see how it will develop into the future. yeah, so it's good that you're running with jump into the uh, the events only because with millions ation with between that you use what in the study read. yeah. i'm sure they understand, but to help them use that to be god, but i think they would try. they would truth think twice, whether to support it from us. actually the again, i'm not saying they're not going to do that right. but not only because one of these ation, they will try to help how much, okay, then it is a trying to with,
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with the institute for national security studies in tel aviv, mr. turner. it's, we certainly appreciate your time excellent analysis to on the nuances of the a rainy and connection to all of this. thank you. thank you very much for the day is almost over and remember whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day. we'll see you then everybody, the
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the, the, this is dw news, live it from berlin. tonight is real, stepping up its bombardment of gauze, prime minister benjamin netanyahu, a warning of a long and difficult war. the conflict since saturday has already claimed nearly 2000 lots. and as the violence escalates, there are reports of atrocities at a could board near israel's border with guns of babies and children are said to be among those murdered the
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