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killing rampage inside is real. truss passers and terrorists, and one, leaving almost a 1000 people dead. many in their wrong holds. it has taken 4 days for israel's security forces to regain control of the border with gauze up. how long will it take to rescue the hostages inside? gone to a 150 of the most of them israel. it's what will the orders b for was rarely soldiers search and rescue or attacked and destroyed, or will it be both to bring golfing berlin? this is the day, the savage attacks of come us perpetrated against it as it is rarely our mind bought, sold a lot. sylvan thought of this. it's a most okay. so everything but something like that.
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so we, we me extremely along like these trafficking escalate events. the what is our fault, what did my children pick up? let's come off how most opportunities have no way to hide in gaza. we will reach them. the also coming up this half hour iran has cheered on the attacks by him. off it has denied that it had anything to do with them as unlikely, and as improbable as that may be. as to the question of whether or ron knew about this attack in advance or help plan or direct his attack, we do not. as at the moment i'm standing here at the podium, have confirmation of that. for to our viewers watching on p b as in the united states into all of you around the world. welcome. we begin today with the picture of terror carried out by him off inside is real,
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with his rarely forces back in control along the border with gaza. the details of saturday's massacre and blood bath are now coming to light. officials today reported finding bloated body use and decapitated babies inside a car, but not more than 2 miles from the gauze border. the death toll from saturdays terror attacks now stands at within $900.00. israel remains the country and shock. it is also a country for now united in the past 4 days, some 360000 reserves have been called up. a mobilization of this magnitude and speed never before seen in modern is really history. prime minister netanyahu he has predicting a long war against a mazda that would change the entire middle east. well, israel's allies are promising full support. the european union is calling for restraint, concern that israel's military attack against them off will result in
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a collective punishment for palestinian civilians. we have this report me saw bloss echo throughout goza raising whole buildings to the ground and seconds. israel says it's military offensive against the palestinian militants behind such today's attack will continue disputed shows the movements that missiles here's what is really all me says a 2 set per mosque months and has in gaza on the ground. residents of gathering the belongings and trying to escape
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as the strikes continue, whole neighborhoods are quickly becoming uninhabitable. and as the number of injured increases hospitals the struggling. yeah. yeah. the oh, this is randy. as drank the medical situation in guys i had already been green for nearly 17 years. the hospitals have been seriously hampered by the siege. we don't have the access to many medical supplies, drugs and equipment in gaza above as the israel has announced a new siege of gauze, a cutting of food, fuel electricity and water supplies. how must this drawing to increase the pressure on israel's lead is by threatening revenge for the strikes on goals. but you know, who mean had he said no, early, no we announced that's daunting. now, every targeting about people without warning, will regret it may be met with the execution of one of the enemies civilian
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hostages. here the nearby hear nothing. we will be compelled to broadcast it. you know that both audio and video valley come with bullying before will be we'll start off. but isabel shows no sign of backing down in an effort to maximize its cheap strength. these really fools this daunted, flying citizens back from europe to be mobilized as was of his beloved join now by moshi zimmerman. he is and is really historian and a leading authority on nationalism and anti semitism. he joins me tonight from jerusalem. mister timmerman, we appreciate you for staying up to talk with us this evening. i'm sure you've heard the news is really forces today saying that they have re gained total control . that is really territory along the border with gaza, but they didn't do it in time to prevent the kidnapping of some 150 people who were now hostages in the hands of her mos. what does history tell you about the
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chances of getting these hostages out safe and sound? well, it is a very tragic. it's totally that way. or it's very hard to get the officers back from any of our country and especially been on the phone. the home us, we had already a long story about the getting that one soldier, all the one, the civilian know we have to do with the whole group of more than a 100 people. so the chances of getting that back. so even if we already, if he's are privy to pay, the price is variable. what is the readiness in is rarely society, in your opinion, of accepting the price being collateral damage that these hostages may have
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to die in order to defeat a mos. whether it is quite clear that the army is going to try to free those hostages, but falls into of course, we know that this is a very difficult task. it change the middle east. and when you hear him say that, what do you understand in that statement? change it in what way? i mean, what will this new, this different middle east look like after this attack on lots. what i'm gonna use really is these very, very good use to not to believe to anything that the my prime minister says. but i understand, go to intends to do, he wants to erase from us. and they may be even more than only from us. he wants to change their balance of power in gaza in the wrong got in between these
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rooms. and they are neighbors by publishing and some us old by polishing garza lid as a general idea. yeah, i don't believe. well, i don't think that is going to achieve the real change if he is not going to be ready to deal with the palestinians, especially in the the bill is off. they auto spinning a far too. as long as you don't stop, you don't show any signs of readiness to have really peace with the palestinians. i'm not talking about some of the people in the west bank. then of course, you're not going to change anything brother, because he did so on the conduct the slogan that the use of you know, all the 2 are console on the he's rarely so i know that you've been critical of netanyahu's government and that you've called this more
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a failure of is really state. what exactly do you mean by that? so he's really state was created in order to be a safe haven for jewels from all over the world. we know about the story or did you within the last 4 of the 18th century, in the 12th century, to, to a pover owned by the non jews by christian, by others in the idea of the deal. certainly the was to create the state to create a place in which to us we live safely. this is something that was really destroyed by the what happened? you know, something today. and you know, the gaza strip jewels in use really in the summer and state is really into so brain staple. the vi on these move in with folders will put the wrong the same way as it was in the 18th century,
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lodging century is still in europe. or even joining the 2nd level when the nazis invaded is invaded the daughters i sail if the state has failed in its obligation to protect the people in israel. um, let me ask you personally, do you feel less safe now then you did a week ago. i mean one of the events from saturday, what did they done to your notion of, of personal safety inside the jewish state of israel, a way of clothes, i expect, these were the only to protect the most of these various society, this holden exception this occurrence. the 3 days ago, but in general, right, one must have to believe that the is really state is right. it was a state that is not very successful in really keeping the
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safety of these rated people. it's not on your program or such a brutal effect, but the one from god. this is something that you feel in the everyday life. there is something wrong about the way the way they use or the politics understand their duty to walk the people and the view of the world history. historian washington, my name is a minute, i wish we had more time to talk about this. but i certainly appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts with this tonight. thank you. thank you very much. we're earlier to 90 was president joe biden said that he is ready to order additional military forces to the middle east in support of israel. he confirmed that american citizens were among the hundreds killed and among the scores of hostages, taken by him. ah see called the terror act, an act of sheer evil were traveling the moss. the
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blood 13 is praised. the mon, the worst, the worst rampages devices. this is terrace. so in this moment, we must be crystal clear. we stand with israel. mazda is not stand for the power steering is people's right to a degree. the self determination state of purposes is not lation of the state of israel and the murder of jewish people. loss of innocent life is heartbreaking. like every nation in the world is who has the right to respond indeed has a duty to respond to these vicious attacks in our washington bureau g. b. this policy was following president binds remarks. she gave me her main take away. hi brenda, it's ralph. i him to he was so descriptive, so strong words talking about a, slaughtered body's butchered body's babies and holocaust survivors which were killed
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. so this is definitely something which is really close to his heart. um his uh, speech was clear, strong heartful, as i said. and he left no doubt at all that he and his administration stand behind is where i've without any hesitation in bed, and i forward to you as has israel's back. he reiterated. and that does not come as a surprise, military and economic support and stated that the response of us will be swift and decisive. and over whelming, he also said that he was urge congress for urgent action on funding. and then that is interesting because pretty much everything here in the united states is so politicized. he said that this is not about party or politics, that this is about the security of the whole world. and brandon as we all live. so it's just coming in, the bible is sending his a state,
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his secretary of state is the top diplomat blinking to israel, who is supposed to arrive there this thursday. israel has declared war on him, off and bound to destroy its ability to govern. guns of the militant palestinian implements group is considered a terrorist organization by the european union and the united states. here's more now on what homos represents of the kansas street, where the as rainy defense forces have been striking targets belonging to the militant islam is thomas palestinian islamic jihad groups. it's from this densely populated enclave line between israel, egypt and the mediterranean sea. that how much has for years launched rockets into israel. the group as governed the over 2000000 residents in gaza
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since 2007. since then, gaza has been seen as enemy territory by israel, and has remained largely sealed off these rail controls access by land, sea, and air. the militant islam is group rejects any piece process with this row and coons for each disruption. thomas is designated a terrorist group by israel, the united states, the you and the united kingdom, among other countries. thomas is part of a regional alliance that includes iran, syria, and the is limits. the organization has blocked 11 on which opposes us policies towards them. at least in these route, the you and other countries have deemed test by a terrorist organization. how much has carried out a tax on israel, which have led to 4 major military conflicts with the israeli army in 2008, 200920122014 of 2021.
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thomas has warned that these latest wave of attacks are just the beginning and cold on other groups to join the fight. just how much depends on $4.00 and $8.00 of all kinds. a lot of that aid comes from iran for the wrong supreme leader. i a total of all the how many he says the t, ron had no role in the from aust terrorist attacks on saturday at the same time. he praised the operation as an it rubber but military and intelligence defeat and run into mos share the declared aim of destroying the state of israel. my next guest now is dantes the trend of it. see, she is with the institute for national security studies until of eve, previously headed up uranium research for israel's military intelligence. it's good
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to have you with this this evening. iran has denied being involved in these attacks . what so ever? is that even plausible? a well, a week time, the stand the relations between how much time that you run, you run the sending money to run, of course, sending alms to you run training in the parentheses by the end of the day. uh, how much is it part of seeing interest movement in the ways that the solely independent, especially in the gaza strip. so there is, of course, the support of the ron to come, i cvt. but technically speaking, once we sold today and what the so in the last couple of days is an attack carried out by come, us operated by come us and come out, doesn't need the approval of the run to launch these attacks. so in that regard, it is possible of we'll do some sort of cold donation in the background the over all the time. by the end of the day,
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it will let you run needs to see to approve amy attack here we don't buy from us the support the move meant the suppose you to see these, but that's the key operationally on the ground, i'm asking the defendant to do what he wants, what are they able to do? so actually what the sold today is, there is a statistic, suppose by uh by you arrive. but i'm doubtful is that from us the, did the approval overrun. okay. carried out the subject. so to what extent then would you say that how much is a tool for iran, such as other groups like, has blog in lab and not to well, there is a distance between the keys below and come on. and so many ways as well as the shape uh movement is actually dispute ahead of you on the pvc. uh, in the mean, the least. and how much is it? but a single moment, assuming movement is actually supported by you run? no, because of the, the logic our reasons. yes. i suppose the reason for both are kind of both uh, a move in country uh wants to destroy the state of each route. but one is sony. one
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is she? so its more, uh, let's say the logical, more uh, in the interest of buying so many ways. so its not that, um, uh, come us, uh is, uh, assuming that too is valid and that means that the effect. but we have to understand what the one is trying to do is actually build the circle of fire around the sits a visa. it wants to the therapy as well, from a tech to run. so he chooses to buy like chooses other movements. uh uh, organizations organization like the shape uh movements in the rac, linda who does any um and like the like from us in the, in the go, the stooping west bank. you know, the cost increase press is right, if somebody is so in that way it's similar to this by the but because by the end you run has to, the teacher called to make to the relations that the less than what you see today between you run and come us again, you run these back and come up with so many ways bucks from, from technical reason,
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oppression. the reason come us is really independent the in its own weight and i was reading today. so iran has this goal of annihilating is real by what one person has described as a 1000 cuts. and that goes along with what you saying building this circle around is real. so it is a loss for iran, one of those 1000 cuts that would contribute to the destruction of israel to definitely um and, and then we run and come up smoking the long term solution. it does, are they thinking that they can distort use real tomorrow? but they believe this uh, a run this a tags at the curb unit as well. uh, one wait for that in its submission uh, vision to the store to split the vision. so that's why we, so even if you run didn't know about the attack. technically, it will support it because it's really, it's a part of his grand strategy the other day to make you sort of disappeared from the
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map and this, but it was dependable support. now it's important to say one important thing, despite the fact that we, again, we all can only assume for why the american restrictions thing and what the come us saying on the ground that there is no called the nation between come us and you weren't before the attack itself, i'm not saying you run one supposed come us actively in the interview in days to come. we still in the beginning stages of the companion of these rel again from us . and if from us will find itself in a dire situation. we cannot truly out that you run. we ask that we support. i'm us not only by uh, trying to send um the other elements, but also may be threatening israel to stop it's activity in gaza strip. so the fact that we didn't see this kind of technical compression doesn't say one, see that the meeting days to come. yeah. and the timing of these attacks that we saw on saturday and they looked like, right?
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you could, you know, see them as being a means at and disturbing what has been this building of improve relations between is real and other error countries. i'm talking to, particularly between israel and saw that you're ready to be up. um, it would definitely be in it runs interest for from us to attack and create what it has created this, this up for, and destroy any goodwill that may have been coming from saudi arabia towards israel . the most definitely things that the you run is really, really annoyed from that nobody's ation uh, between the east rarely in the gulf states and especially this prospect of and why they should between these well inside the arabian, this is something that boot real jeopardy towards the u rodney run, see this kind of coordination and between the even the storage of the something that really jeopardizing its core interest in the region and beyond. so if that's
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we got, it's not the come us initiated that because of you run a b says or trying to apply to some obstacles in the nations between these when a sudden a bill, but for sure you run on this, then they've held that in that regard, so we'd, so it's move supported. i think that even more than that, what come us is trying to do right now despite the fact that probably started, like we mentioned the campaign alone, they want to go there. you run without talking to the company and we saw a home, a depth, the head of the, uh, i was come, i was actually goes to sleep, trying to say, trying to do in the beginning stages of the campaign, trying to call for uh, other uh, fronts to be open and they think that these, the, these ation is something that you run can relate to. but we have to understand one, both of the things that the iran is very hesitant to open new fronts. it doesn't tend to get into development. but the kind of post the full see how it will develop
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into the future. yeah. so it's still that you're running with jump into the uh, the events only because of the station between that you were used in the study. right? yeah. i'm sure they understand, but to help them use that to be god, but i think they would try. they would truth think twice, whether to support the right from us. actually the again, i'm not saying they're not going to do that right. but not only because one of these ation, they will try to help how much, okay, then it is a trying to with, with the institute for national security studies in tel aviv, mr. turner. it's we certainly appreciate your time excellent analysis to on the nuances of the of randy and connection to all of this. thank you. thank you very much. i as well the day is almost over and remember whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day. we'll see you then everybody, the
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