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with mine, we are here on please find your voice. so we got all the topics, i'm much up to you from campbell fixed a new culture. and in 15 minutes, let's say parts of our community life on the research is now on the top, the hello, you're watching dw news in berlin. my name is christine window and these are the latest developments in israel and the gaza strip is really ministry has struck 100 small targets in concepts of the night. more than 2000 people have died on both sides. since how much this terrorist attack on sunday, the united nation stays more than 260000 gallons,
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had been displaced by israel's bombardment as officials in gaza report of a 900 palestinians had been killed. these randy armies says it has no knowledge of the re gain control of the gods. a border way is as mass forces. he doesn't expected round offensive. israel continues to find victims of from us as a tax in the area around gaza. within 1200 is rain. these have been killed, dozen small have been taken back to gaza as hostages. now how much has a that's a dozens of people, including children and the elderly. some hostages were also taken at an outdoor musical festival close to gaza. gunman shot dead at least 260 people that all the families of some of those at that festival still have no news about their loved ones. they don't know whether they are dead or alive. our corresponding tonya cray must sent us this report to the uncertainty is unbearable since saturday doesn't
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tomo shut them, have had no news of that or to a new one. she was at the race next to the boots. the you the gossip order when i'm us militants, launch the attack? no, on the i was calling the 830 about 8 30 in the morning this saturday and she was frightened and crying. and she was like saying, there's gunshot that we could hear like there's the gunshots around. and now we find some show took place and with a group of people together. and then this things happen here sometimes, you know, like i was telling her no problem. you're in a safe place, work with 10 soon and see you in a while and then she said ok, i don't have much a battery. so i, i love you all and then i'm,
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i'm afraid i love you all and i don't know what's going to happen. but anyway, i love you all. remember to sit up to several of thousands, mainly young party goers were at the side. saturday morning when rockets felt looms and gunman started to shoot at least 250 people died here. dozens missing. so to be taken to gaza and had hostage by them in attends 3 days later, toma shalom and his family. a still searching hospitalized. hoping the daughter wasn't a doctor. that was the last time that anyone heard the something from nom and from that time we are kind of in a total darkness. there is a sense of sadness, anger, and uncertainty of what is said to come. as more details emerge from what unfolded on such a day, many is radius has
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a hard time to come to terms with the unprecedented attack when it's ready communities near the cause. this trip in tel aviv young adult has also been looking for a friend from he was working at the festival. they have known each other since they were teenagers. and then the last contact with him was at 9 21 am. on saturday morning he sent a text message to his mother and uh, in the text message. he says that he, he loves them his family. um, but he's in the container. there are a lot of terrorist outside, lots of gunshots outside. and it does not seem like they are going to make it out of their live friends and family is going to the media for a sign of life that didn't know what had happened to him. but then a text message arrives. and i was just asking
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a rooms wife last if um, if she can send me one of his pictures. so i can uh so i can send it to you from there winning day. and um and uh, she says that they, they told them no officially, but he's dead. um we use family knows already he's one of the many killed in this attack. ludy romances that y'all have been has been missing since i'm us attacked and keep boots in southern israel on saturday. he told us what the family knows about the disappearance. that of course, thank you, christine for having us as. as you said, my sister and her family alone, her husband and guess and her daughter, a 3 year old daughter. and when to their families, dinner for holiday, for holiday feast, and friday evening,
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they stayed the night there. um and woke up on saturdays for this madness, the people coming to their home and to the shelter that they have built for their family and just pull them out of there and in the house um or alons family my my sister's husband um 2 of his parents, his sister as well. um they were taking a different stages. he was the 1st one. um, she was got into a car. um he thought that you know then and guess and we're hiding and adobe. okay. yeah. and but after a few minutes, they also were pulled into the same car. and there were all taken together and
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towards the border. this is where our story have a little of magic in it. where they found this opportunity to just get out of the car, the car with free terrace armed and they started running. they started running the beginning, they had a chance to run without anyone behind them. but then they, they heard the terrace after they're starting to, should work by and this is the, this is where, where they, they lost track of each of the way they went in different directions. laurie as i understand, i'm sparing you on because i do when it gets other aspects of of this is of the story. and have you heard any news? it's been 4 days now since your sister disappeared any indication of her
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whereabouts? no. so because there is the spot of where you have the in, in a long got a parts a search and tree where he last saw her. there are teams that are looking in the field of trying to find any track, any sign of, of direction. we hope that maybe she's still hiding somewhere, but we've heard nothing. we know nothing. um. it's an innocent woman, a mother for a 3 year old child that is now here with me that we need to take care of her until her mother will be back. specifically here, and then he's also a german citizen. um, so we did, i want to hear also from, from germany. um to put as much as much pressure to,
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to know about a citizen of germany. that is, that's missing the unknown. yeah. saturday or larry, um, of course there's a lot of uncertainty. yeah, we saw in my colleague tanya cream is report that we did shortly before talking to for some families. the reality is their relatives have been found and then uses no, great because the renaissance have been found that i want to know that this is probably a very unfair question to you. but if your sister is being held somewhere in does that, does that give you a little bit more hope that that, that she is alive and bearing in mind, we don't know what's happening to so the hostages that have been taken into gaza i think this is why it's so important for us to talk about it and to bring it to the attention of the world. i'm so everyone will, will care about those people,
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so the attackers or keep them safe. they will have them and hold them, but they will keep them safe because they'll know that they're missing just with israel and they're not just messing with these early government. it's not more of an army, i guess, army innocent people, it could be if it's, if it's going to be a system of terror, this is going to be everywhere. and we hope that the voice of the world will help us keep you then safe, even though she held hostage somewhere. larry, we're reporting a lot about this ground defensive that we anticipate the israel will launch into, into the guys. and we've heard from us that they will kill some of the hostages will. they will kill the hostages that they've taken in retaliation. so that does
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that, does that worry you knowing that this is the threat on your sister's life, is indeed she is in, in casa, i must be honest and say that we are, we're interviewing here today because we feel it's very important to, to tell the story and to make the whole world aware, but i'm not much aware of what's going on in the, in the press and what's, what's, what we hear from us because i have a 3 year old to take care. yeah. um and i appreciate that. i don't want to i, i totally understand that. um, of course you've got a lot to deal with at the moment. um, larry, have you um, there are other families that all in, in, in the situation that you are in now. have you been in contact with them? is there some kind of a support system that you would have established to help each other at this moment?
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so there are a few and we're trying the beginning. everything was chaos um, as expected, i guess. um, nobody knew anything and we're still trying to figure out a lot of different channels of communication, different groups, not everything is very organized and everything is official. we haven't got a, i'll even not one official phone call from the store the same. we're looking for assistance or, or we don't have any new information, but we're on it. and this is one of the main things that we need the support of one another to try and push to try and get some sense into this crazy ration. larry,
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i really appreciate your coming on to the program today to talk to us about this and thank you so much for sharing that story with us, but is very real non whose sister is still missing since saturdays attacks. thanks so much again, larry. all the best to being in the united states has confirmed, at least 11 of the citizens were killed in the terror attack on saturday. and believe americans are among the hostages being held by how much prison joe biden has condemned, via text by homeless and emphasized that the united states stands by israel. he says israel has the rights to defend itself, so not to share even more than $1000.00 civilians. schlosser, francisco slaughtered and israel long them at least 14 american citizens killed. parents butchered using their bodies to try to protect their children.
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stomach churning reports of the baby's being killed, entire family slain. today, americans across the country are praying for all those families. it ripped apart. most of us know how it feels. it leaves a black hole in your chest when you lose family. feeling like you're being sucked in. the anger, the pain sense of hopelessness. this is what they mean by human tragedy. leaders of france, germany, it's as the terrorist attack came as israel was beginning to forward, closer ties with arrow countries on the what on known as the abraham of quotes. this was started by when we do as president donald trump's administration, now pet, as the indians criticized these agreements saying they ignored their situation and failed to address their conflict with israel. and now they're off. is that the
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facing could spill over? a mass is recent terrorist attacks on israel, couple of questions about how it managed to carry out an assault of this scale. and if the consequences could spock, why did conflict in the region for many years or role and as being one of the main supporters of a mass and other palestinian is the most militant groups providing both arms and financial aid. tyrone expressed support for the latest attacks, but denied involvement when we'll do some of them as below all via run backs and heavily armed organization in neighboring lebanon is also a supporter of a mass mass and has been law deemed terrorist organizations by both germany and the united states, among others, a mass as latest attacks comes relations,
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have warmed between israel and some arab countries. the west has suggested the attacks may have been in part, an attempt to undermine this process. there rollins, long time rivals, saudi arabia, head reports. they've been close to signing an agreement with israel. it was hoped this could lead to more arab and predominantly muslim countries, folding better relations with israel. the saudi government has said it will only normalize tides if there was major progress towards the creation of a palestinian state of since 2020 as well as also normalize relations. under the abraham of quotes with united arab emirates by rain america, they joined jordan in egypt. and having different magic relations with this row. so don has also taken steps towards normalized relations. so many palestinians, these agreements as seen as serving only the interest of israel and as an abandonment of the palestinian caused by arab states as well. the is really perspective t w's. hans bryant has interviewed is rails and basset to germany. wrong proposal
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here in, but in augusta, the quotes are the people who say that the events in israel not comfortable to 911 in the united states, is that a comparison? you what support the answer is yes, from the shock. and but you know, saturday, the 7th of october will be a day is it is going to stay in memory. s a black day as the deadliest day that the state of israel and the nation state of the jewish people have ever encountered. those images, the state of israel was basically established in order for those images and never to happen. we're going to act in such a manner that come us as a terrorist organization with it there was infrastructure will not be there
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after we finish turning to the situation. now in israel, at the moment, the gaza strip has been cut off from the olive signs completely even including water and electricity. that is impacting more than 2000000 people is not a little bit harsh, i guess more than 2 a 1000000 people that are. so i'm going to stop here and we all drives us off. this is you have to understand, this is a paradigm shift between as humanity and barbarism civilization and this, this has not this cycle to finance. this is not 2 sides. this is one side, a terrorist organization. this has decided to wage war against islam and we will go after them everywhere. they are in order to eradicate this infrastructure of their that basically terrorized as not as the only user but the
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whole region. but it appears to be necessary to take this 5 into gaza that will cause more casualties, both for the israelis and for the palestinians. is that price necessary? is we'll pay a high price if we go in because we don't have another choice without soldiers. well, boys without gross price, in addition to the price of what we have just paid, we're going to do that because we cannot even think of living in this region where the own neighborhood is located. so what about peace? what are the chances for some kind of peace between israel and the palestinians and for the middle east as a whole? no one thinks of piece. at this stage, we need to make sure the mass is taken out. believe me when they're out there many and you've seen that in the region of it's one piece we want peace at
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the end of the day, we're going to deal with it. but now let's go and not go back. we haven't finished this, we're not, we're in the middle of the morning. we're not thinking of anything as but making sure that those who did it to us will not be. but there has been some progress on the peace front and recent months between these rather than some arrow upstairs. and most recently that was talk about some kind of agreement between is relevant. saudi arabia is all that finished office. you understand that it is not going to venture that the run and from us a, that's a special the wrong saw. this a function mile with saudi arabia and beside it to the story. so it's not going to eventually and come us at this stage in iran we are now in the middle of the war. we may have to make sure that
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those who did that to us are going to be punished severely after that. i'm sure that they're going to be many in the region that are going to move forward in creating a better mid, an ease and then possible a comprehensive piece. but now this is not the things that we're talking about sort of close or thank you very much for talking to the us. and our residents, middle east analyst shawnie was on his joins me out in the studio for more. and that shiny, i found that very interesting conversation, but just picking up on some of the things that we heard from the ambassador of the day. and perhaps maybe let's actually begin with what's a waste is really forces going into guys. but as we anticipate this ground offensive, so nobody knows, and neither does these really military. and that's exactly the problem. that's part of the hesitance is probably part of the long preparation that we're seeing it. how
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much anticipates is really a ground operations. and this is how much this territory we need to keep in mind. garza has the, the overground city that we know the city, the, the, the refugee is come to us and so on. but on the lower ground in the there's a very elaborate system of tunnels and this is where most from us militants headquarters. and sometimes even daily operations going through the are some the lead us of come us and living in the got in the gaza strip. not many of them are in caught are, but those who are in from us are in the tunnels they hardly see to day of life because they are trying to escape these really air force bombings and so on. so, and this is also part of the wreckage wishing, terrible, uh, you know, pictures from gauze the way the is really military sees or they've, they have to go through the upper garza level in order to make it into the lower level of gauze that it's not clear how it's gonna work out and no doubt about one
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thing is it's going to be very brutal. it's going to be a lot of blood chad. it's not gonna be an easy task at all. and unfortunately, and in general, i'm looking at this, this crisis does it now under my, israel's attempts to grow his relations to develop more relations now with, with arab states like saudi arabia, for example. i think it's too soon to tell. i think it's quite clear that you know, we know that from us is best buy and just buy his box as well as best buy you want . we're not quite sure how directly involved yvonne was in this attack, but there is no doubt that an american is really sell the exits that we have been hurrying about in the last couple of months. is something you are on is not the fund of is very worried off. it's also what keeps now the americans very much involved in the region. they want to make sure you're on stage of pay. they want to keep his bi line, the northern front obtained as possible. and it could be that once this is all done
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and everybody is counting the many debts, they will be some sort of initiative probably that have been led by the americans, maybe other forces in the region. it's honestly, we don't see that in the political discourse right down israel, and i think it's a bit too soon to tell somebody what are the chances of, of the current conflict escalating into, into a wider world. but we see the northern border, we were just mentoring hezbollah, that's the most critical, immediate worry for israel. you know, when it comes to this escalating even further, we've seen the throughout the morning. the last exits in grizzle of small attacks. the morning was also a very lively exchange of opportunity between israel and lebanon and his vala. so this might get out of hand. we're not quite sure how coordinated is his ball out with her mazda in the sense that they did not launch and attack simultaneously with his ball. and maybe just keeping israel occupied and tense is good enough for him
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us and for his bala. but we could be that they also interested in an escalation um, because one of the major things that that happened on saturday was that israel's deterrence, which was the biggest weapon strategic weapon, you know, standing in this part of them at least has crumbled. and if that means that how much is feeling and bowls and, and more gutsy, we might see more of that coming into the region more, more escalation into this cost. it's right, and this is look at the the days pepsi from the hours ahead of us. so we know that israel is preparing for what we anticipate will be a ground defensive massing troops, some $300000.00. that the board is what's on the calendar. we've got friday coming up in the end, the invitations that we were just talking about on a the who the day out friday. what, what, what, what does the next few days look like? what do i get of us? yeah, we need to keep in mind the know this type of part of israel is still not completely clear from how much maintenance is really, is are, you know,
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is where the forces are fighting that. we've just talked about the northern border . israel has the, the eastern west of it, which is bordering the west bank. and whatever happens there, we've seen a lot of very strict regulation against the palestinians into westbank. officially, they are not part of from us, but there's a lot of public support to the causes that how much is pushing. and of course, a great enthusiasm from the great success of how much they've had. and we will get to seen on friday at most of the day in jerusalem and in the west bank, if this is also uh, getting out of hand, you know, a lot of tense alertness in the whole region. too much julia to be seen. yeah. well, let's see that the for the moment shiny resign is our middle east analyst. thank you. well actually see and this is the news continuing coverage of israel as well with how much of the top of the hour to in my clinic, there's been issues. you can buy the
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videos, light from berlin, the depths total lines in is room. as the full extent of south of those terrorist attacks comes to light. the ministry series, the number of people killed, has reached to 1200. and the most of them were civilians gone down and their homes pull the streets and goes uh, phone and neighborhoods are being flattened. as israel steps up its air strikes, some of the try to treat mold, the 900 had been reported that the
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