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the games, thomas, who are the enemy of israel, but the people of god understood we have one of the world's most densely populated areas. this narrow strip of land. it's already suffering a humanitarian crisis. now it is being a bound by is riley troops annual telling more or less costs of the population to move from there to an already populated area on already domestically populated area because no one can leave the territory. so we, we know that how much terrorists killed moles and 1200 is really civilians in this brutal attack on saturday. joseph, that's legitimate, the states of israel now ordering an attack on one of the most densely populated areas on a, on inflicting even greater suffering. so are you suggesting that we don't
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protect our civilians because they are hiding behind this? so this is a ridiculous question. no, right, let me just interrupt you and because i'm not suggesting anything, i'm not suggesting anything. what i'm asking you to do is to provide the it for less less than i'm for me as well. just to explain what is the legitimation for doing this, because it does sound like you are inflicting what the un has described as collective punishment on dawson's. so my question was does what, how much did legit to make the stay surveys ratio acting in this way? i'm if you like i yes or no, we'll do. so i don't like. and what i'm trying to explain is when from us tons the people of gaza as hostages to the terrorists activities by putting rockets in their school yards by putting drones on their roofs by tunneling bits would be nice
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them off and putting everybody at risk. so i'd say yes, when we tell people to move to the south is we are taking care of the people that doesn't move in all the numbers. so i would say yes, we have no the responsibility to restore the safety and security to the people of israel to the bedrooms. and that is something that we will not accept ever again from us. cannot be garza and expects to come out with and for, for as well just to turn another page, we have that responsibility. our military is in charge with the defense of the state of israel when the how much stars organization broke down with friends charged in 20 different sub 20 different locations across into our communities killed bushes of doctor. it's to back over a 100 people into the gaza strip. they could, they, they basically said, we don't care. this is the situation. what are they trying to achieve for the people, the cause of our responsibility and our government and our operations. and i'll
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military operations. most importantly are conducted within the laws of conflict, specifically in order to set god's civilian life even when there is a risk. this is so so many lives. so i would say yes, we have the right and obligation to operate. and so with a levy, i can remove that for it completely. it cannot be happen. ever again. we won't let that happen. and that is why we are in a box on this mission. and quite frankly, that the whole line of this thing position against the right to self defense. you know, when your charging is wrong with the responsibility for all of the people, because i'm not asking how much, why did they sacrifice the people have? doesn't such a business, right? that is why we're missing the point. the point is, this is a terrorist organizations that establish terrace foothold and strong coal within the civilian arena, specifically so that you would ask these questions, but they are responsible and they need to be held accountable. we will not allow them ever again to threaten mistakes of as well. okay,
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thank you for joining us enough time to kind of come down and i'll be as really defensive office. thank you. feel well, how about this claim? but 13 hostages, they've been killed by his writing missiles 5 in the gaza. ask off and john, mr. hasn't been sushi about those claims on the about the is regular evacuation aud, the payment of the whole statement was issued find a miniature legal come up. not defend brigade saying that can hold. that is a case where you to bump into a govern. they to the know turned over me and, and they weren't killed in 2 areas in, in the her date. and at the, at 6 what kills there. and that was that 7 were killed in y'all's, the city and in 3 locations. um this is that what we, we know about this so that only from that statement of the people who receive a recorded messages from the, from these lady at our meetings,
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telling them that that's because we've been talking to her name and they've got a cd to evacuate not to be without them and the time for, for them to leave, and then they have to go in the south direction without giving the directions to, to the people where to go in and face the road. the problem is that it's, it's very clear. i think here people don't know if they should sleep or not. they the local activity advised the people to stay in their home cuz i thought to leave, i talked to the what they call it. i knew the placement like what happened did 1948 . it's a tour for many people tied in cities being has a problem with that. there was no transportation to go through this now because of that, that the lack of, of, of taxes for cars and those cars. they have no fuel to drive down to the house. so many people pass in a li, big big my relatives at the. ready asked me so they don't have
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a way to go there or causes that facing a growing the need for humanitarian supplies. as you can imagine, many residents desperate for food, water, and medicines. israel is constant, ariel attacks me many electronics and that homes are in buildings where they've sort of safety, attain from gem and public television. said this report from a hotel inside the territory. this gaza hotel has become a refuge for civilians. diplomats and gen lists a place of relative safety sent back from the surrounding residential blocks in this densely populated area. the below going with smoke and dust from is bailey missile. strikes is really media says thousands of targets in gaza. have been hit save file size. there is a trained pharmacist,
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she does what she can to treat the injured administering the state in the hope that an ambulance will take casualties, the hospital and heavy. and at the moment we have 4 wounded people. here. we've tried our best to stabilize them, but we need an ambulance as quickly as possible. there just aren't any. even waiting for 5 hours are ready at the end of how and if i'm a salad. hardly anyone does venture on the street. the one camera man does get as far as the hotel engines nearby housing, taking a direct hit the moment slate to another strike. this time,
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the shockwave reaches the hotel lobby. as fighters can retreat to an extensive network of tunnels. but there's no way to go to the civilian population. the amount of time in situation here is becoming more desperate as well blocks food, water, and power supplies. fuel for generates is also running low. in the darkness repeated missile strikes the whole, the whole situation out there isn't human. we urgently need who monetary and intervention. foreigners may be stuck here, but we also need a way out. these are civilians, here, mothers and children because even with a safe way out,
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we wouldn't know where to go and apply them. how to buy. so in many of these are made at the hotel, no one knows how long they will have to be there. your secretary state down to me blinking has met with published in the lead on my food, a boss in georgia. and mr. obaskey have se palestinian of thursday, which controls the occupied westbank util wisdom. thinking that he rejects the force displacement of palestinians engulfed after days of silence since the hama kind of attack and which $11300.00 is available to the palestinian leader finally condemned the violence against civilians by both sides as well. so as evacuation flight of gym and nationals from israel landed on thursday upfront with apple and just been working with enough times to to organize the special slides to be punched a it citizens so far, 950 people have been flown out around 5000 to register to lee,
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since is right at to leave israel a since the war broke out or united with family back safe and german. so we are so happy. so we leave that everything worked out doesn't start until we leave the burden. big feller we, when we took off the plane down and he would over to see the lift on so i was so great they would really talk to the pilots at separate times. it doesn't on the fly us. but unfortunately, the own nbc, in our clean hundreds are home, but thousands of germans remain stranded in israel, waiting for their chance to return to units and talk a bunch of times the last few days were exhausting,
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especially when we were waking up to sirens. it was so stressful, but thank god we're home. that's great. now of course i'm so happy. there are 12 people in our group and we're all here all healthy. thank god. now let's go home. so happy to be back returning. i couldn't help but think of those they left behind so who's not inside on, but it seems to me it's a hard decision because i have friends who are then now people who have talked to the conflict, i meant to try to long as big as one of my best friends hasn't written for 3 days and would be part of the ground defensive in gaza if it happened not get in the next few days, i'm going to be looking through the list to the photo and just hoping i'm saying all that my friends in the class on page that's kind of mind to find sort of more special flights from tel aviv to frank ferguson munich are set to continue on friday. we'll have continuing coverage of this situation and that just
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scale would be impossible without devastating humanitarian consequences. many of those already starting to leave northern areas, the evacuation, so taking place and it's continuing is really as strikes on the territory as claims that 13 hostages, including foreigners, are among those who have died in those areas on boardman in gaza. in the last 24 hours has a new chaise, a june list, based in gaza, who joined us earlier. bye fine. the people are low. i mean, they lost their minds. they are like, they are thinking, calling everybody trying to communicate and to understand what's happening. this is the new thing that happened in y'all's. i never been before. people didn't know what to do, where to go by the local come in a 30 here thing they did to this is um, cuz this is not true and people shouldn't leave and they have to stay in their
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places. but without giving them any instruction, what to do, you know, even if the people decided to leave, i mean it's, it's impossible that the type of city and the capability of all the other bottles down the stretch wouldn't be able to contain the 1000000 over one currently from, you know, and get all the cd to the south and the structure there is a limited but as little as like even there is no in a school or more and more those people to know been in the same time that the pods and all of the goddess 20th is not totally safe. i mean, the way that i'm now when i was trying to her that here aren't either smoking. no, that wasn't and they were frank yesterday and it did a little while, which is why does it include included in the area that that it is well and instructed people to go and they was like about 2022 people and killed their
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according to the voice and also has allowed so people don't know, i mean it's not they there and they all refer you to the course question. i wonder where to go, how to go and, and what to do and you know, it, he said it's an option. i just want to timing on that point. they because you seem to be um, alluding to the fact that they've been mixed messaging people not knowing if it is true indeed that they have to evacuate. i'm. i'm interested to know if, if you're going to be back to racing, have you made plans to do that? and what does this in tail from it just to call perspective easily or the infrastructure to move people at that scale. i find that that was, it wasn't clear enough, but if i hit it like, you know, either myself, that's fine. i'm thinking of this to stay in the morning. i received a record. it's my feet right here saying that for the north in one and you have to wait for and without saying, even like,
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how long or you know which period who did it in getting instruction to anything? i wouldn't, i wouldn't my, i'm keeping this as an option and i'm looking for a place to do it because honestly, i don't know where to go. you know, like even i have my car and, and its like limited amount of fuel and barely able to, to, to, to go there with would that the whole remaining in my car and there was no and there is no, no fuel. i can refill it from deficiency because of all that the who is went out or stored in, in some places. so i have to be honest and my wife and the kids and neighbors. i'm understanding that like currently by moved out my my house like a few days ago, and i'm in them in order to his house. so i'm thinking now to go somewhere. but i mean, i don't know where i'm still figuring out where, where and at,
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and how you can make it happen. a how must, meanwhile, has told people living in northern garza to stay in their homes, despite the warning from israel's ministry for them to evacuate. israel has told 1100000 people to leave, that's about half of the population of the entire gaza strip. it seemed from jim and public television st. this report from inside gaza. this guy is a hotel has become a refuge for civilians. diplomats in general is a place of relative safety. so back from the surrounding residential blocks in this densely populated area. the billing with smoke and dust from is really missile strikes. he's really media say 3600 targets in gauze. a have so far been hit by the is
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a trained pharmacist. she does what she can to treat the injured administrating 1st aid in the hope that's an ambulance will come to take the casualties to hospital and heavy. and at the moment we have 4 wounded people. here we've tried our best to stabilize them, but we need an ambulance as quickly as possible. there just aren't any, even waiting for 5 hours already done. and when it's on the side of the, anyone does venture onto the street. one camera man gets as far as the hotel and friends nearby housing takes a direct hit the
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moment slate to another strike. this time the shockwave reaches the hotel lobby of how much spiked is couldn't retreat to an extensive network of tunnels. but there's no way for the civil population to go. palestinian officials say more than 1500 people have been killed, including the 500 children. the humanitarian situation is getting more desperate as israel blocks power and water supplies. fuel for generators is running low. in the duct and this repeated missile strikes the whole, the whole situation out. there isn't human. we urgently need who monetary and intervention. foreigners may be stuck here, but we also need a way out. these are civilians, here, mothers and children because even with
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a safe way out, we wouldn't know where to go. and upon the size and many others remain at the hotel. no one knows how long they will be the the usa for ship stay to enter. new blinking has been holding talks with pennsylvania, need a buckled a bus in jordan. a bus has the power to send me the 40 which controls the occupies when he had initially made no comment on the must tara attack of israel. but i was to release the statement condemning violence against civilians by both sides. clinton had earlier visited israel, where he met in tennessee with families still reeling from b. i must hear a tax thinking described images of a mess of trustees, shown to him by israel as depravity. israel meanwhile is stepping up it's response . the award cabinet formed in response to
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a terrorist attack that's become known as israel's $911.00 at the top of their agenda. the race to bring back around a $150.00 hostages. many of them civilians taken by how much was the government, the piece of the whole done, the money to we're still working to locate those kidnapped was up, we need to bring in more special offices, forensics. we are receiving assistance from abroad to identify bodies, to know who is alive, who is dead well known who is kidnapped and we will not lift up on this effort. we will not for less help on trying to bring them home a bite. and until a v, a high profile visitor, i came to israel bearing a simple message. united states stands with real and with its people. today. tomorrow, every day in my meetings with the prime minister, with
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a present hers on with the ministers in israel's newly formed national emergency government. we discussed in detail what is real needs to defend itself, its people, and how the united states can help to meet those needs. a blinking also met families of missing is really relatives and friends of hostages taken by him us and now being held in gaza. we were married the hearing our story makes decisions human, this is a human issue. these are civilians that are missing and had been captured. all soon told these the vigil honoring victims of the dead lease attack and israel's history . while hundreds still search for their loved one
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defense analyst frank lead, which is a senior electra in strategic studies at portsmouth university. i asked him earlier whether the is ready to order to evacuated within casa pointed to women in ground. the sold us? yes, i think we could be fairly certain. is that christy the preparations visible to everybody was that maybe an maybe an element of surprise to this? there's no tacit told that that going in. i think we can, with respect to the old is given by the is raise and the controversies around it. but one reference point might be what happened in most, all in the fight against a similar type of script. i s way reputation were allowed to leave the battery to some extent, but look, that's it. that's a separate issue. they ask you questions? yes, i think they'll be, they'll be going in at some point in the next few days. they may not do a sort of full on the full panoply. a sold made it mandate for
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my sort of patchwork of assaults, but will say the speculation. what kind of will say, can we expect to win those is really trips into augusta. look back both sides with a plan for this. the operations against i us in iraq and syria is what it's going to look like. except i think what you have seen is how much is fall back to pad, best or on equally motivated as, as, as then, how much has it has in terms of there also has drones that will have prepared tunnels, fortifications, strong points, killing zones, and all the rest and all that will be fully caught with these various become percent of all of that in the planning for these ready perspective. they have some very effective counter measures. nobody's excellent. tom and vehicles, your basic tanks in the streets, but you will be saying a lot of equipment perhaps you haven't seen an action before on some plaintive we have. it's going to be really tough, bloody and fight to dump, forgot the tunnels. i see that's what's really going to be concerning me is really
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so i think frank around 300000 reserves happened both allies on the, on the is really side. but there is also, in addition to, of course this, this, this invasion and to how much we know that israel's also facing the street from his bullet coming from the north. i guess i'm asking you is israel essentially per page here for, for a multi front wall, the dances with us as us. and they will have exercised on both of the highest come on the levels and down to the down to the brigade, just to say the units of $3000.00 or so israel has dedicated brigades that know the know that are directed that way. the reserves in those particular units will have been deployed there in the past regularly during that that periodic trading. so yes, that prepared for for hezbollah entity. it's was remember that as well as considered the farm or for me to both of us read on hamas on the uh the only allow me thats defeated is right is i'll be at a touch still just strategic level. but nonetheless, a very formidable when these writers will be full of mold and aware of that. all
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right, that is let's leave at the frank that as a military analysts frank language talking to us the thank you so much, we appreciate that. and ok, mid bye. around is with the aid group, the norwegian refugee council. i asked him about his organization stuff on the ground in gaza. our stuff up projects really by last night's announcement. we have moved from laurie to panic, to fair and now. so let's just see this stage raise this announcement is going to stretch and not just off, so not just an, an entire office elation in casa, but also the future of this. uh, you know, at all 6, i also am 50 of them, part of seniors over 50 of them have to leave how they are feeling for they lines that children don't know what is happening or that they think that what is
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happening is punishment for an entire population, this is honestly, i'm speaking to you and i'm thinking of my colleagues. some of them have been disconnected from the world who don't know where to go this morning. this is what this is the phrase that one is a patient. we don't know where to go and our colleagues and i'm not even able to how in the circumstances and ask me the order is from the ideas that people in northern gaza must or head south. and they've been given 24 hours. is that realistic? as such? as unrealistic good sweetie. i think of breakfast attempts to panic. people, there is no, there's no honestly, there's no genuine way you can achieve past hospitals in those garza have been
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are being targeted. they are over flooded with patients, some of them and life threatening situations. and also that kind of old gives the impression that southern guns are a site. and that is to see not true. a lot of areas. i'm eunice, even the crossing has been as being a targets it show that there are no shocks has to take people there and that there is no age for people. there's no place for people to stay in. this is not just unrealistic partition, so it's also a swaggering features international they don't want to pick up on the point you're making about aid. we know that there was a sprint need for aids to get into guys right now. has there been any breakthrough on that front that there hasn't, that hasn't israel fractions to,
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uh, from there or seeing if each choice to the agent that there's so many sort have on 7 for the doors and inventory imposed. we have the nice being for is not just on the cheap level as, as now is this is rails actions. we're actually heading in the opposite direction to direction of escalation. again, to begin collation of, to the young people under the pretext of our response to a group of as, as long groups. this is not how how you deal with a situation where you are obviously laying a siege over 2000000 people. the entire garza strip is less than 400 kilometers square kilometers me of $2000000.00 people are crowns into this, into this trip. they help him think about it from every side. and you know, the latest you here is you telling them to go from one. i'm safe from dangerous
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area to another. all right, we'll leave it. they estimate buyer and from the norwegian refugee council. thank you for for that. yeah, there was a total brocade off guys. the that means both is really hostages, and palestinian civilians are tracked. is there anything families and friends here in europe can do? well, i'll report a rosie, but child has more from brussels. after a moment of silence. israel's national anthem, it goes through quite crowds, outside the european parliament and brussels. we're here with the president of the european council, the president of the european commission, and all of you as one to express a solid diety inside a group of israelis, buffalo's between meetings as parliamentarians, making the case for more action. we need to know um,
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as she lays out the photos of loved ones, 11 of whom are presumed, kidnapped by him. us look at these family. okay. they're not on these. riley's many of them sion, she's a german citizen as well. we're really a s cable for the you to take responsibility and bring their citizens back home after the horrors of the weight is like a nice thing. they burn the house, who thank you everyone. and they took him to him and we're just trying to save whoever is to your opinion says age stands with israel, but the block has also warrant the country against blocking supplies to go. so cutting what a container 3 cd cartoon for to a mass where she really and people is a gauge international. so yes, the actual mx shows that had not the in accordance with the international. that's why little,
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why fi is terrified to hailing from casa. we meet her at her home outside proposals, as she frantically tries to get family members out of the strip. but they're trumped. well for you, why can they hide up? they've nowhere to run to the starting to run out of milk milk, bread drinking more to do, put them layla rejects the actions of him off on the is really response through this is the killing civilians has never developed the palestinian cause. we've always said to the killing palestinian civilians does not make israel safe on both sides. now we are weeping mothers. we are parents searching for our children. we are both at the mercy of xtreme is politics and we shall have the same pain, but in opposing camps in mid on the cope with a for no, all those watching from afar can do is hold on for their taking solace. a no whispered prayer for peace or song, this hope hanging in the air.
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meanwhile, the 1st plane, carrying jim and nationals evacuating from israel landed on thursday evening at frankfurt airport. for news, tons of fly saw bringing 950 citizens floating around 5000 every just to to meet the country since the tumor attacked by home us on southern israel on saturday. and israel stick and ration on the medicine. and for more of this, we can speak to the political correspondent on sprint. hi, hans, what more can you tell us about who was on board these planes? well, there will be many tourists among them. this thread is a very popular tourist destination in germany, a bunch of they're also very active in exchange programs between israel, then germany going on. and of course they are on many, many thousands of double citizens of fuels. citizens, people that have both is riley and german citizenship. so the majority of what have
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been will be taurus that are coming off now that have no of no roots. so no, no fixed homes in israel. but that will also be a handful of people that are bringing themselves all the relatives that children into safety in germany. yeah, and so we understand about $5000.00 german citizens have indicated that they want to come home. just give us a sense of are there enough of flights planned and other of the, the channels to evacuate people at the moment we know about the full slides that took place yesterday and another full that i planned for today. and several that i planned for the weekend, so they are, may be something around a 1000 people per day. the time being and victor evacuated was being brought back to germany by. yeah, they have also been that's been a ferry from israel to cyprus,
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which was organized by the german or far it is in the buses, going into jordan to bring people into safety via that route. that has even been one school class of school children that was put on a plan to iceland to through the intervention of the german foreign ministry so that they could get all of this quickly as possible. but that has been some criticism that all of this the tools much too long and that it was quite difficult to reach the german of car. it is. so it's not quite clear how quickly these 5000 people will be back in germany. and how many of those might still be waiting in the wings. all right, that is all a political correspondent, hans brand reporting day for us. thank you. hans. demonstrations have been held around the world with active is rallying and support of foot israel and the palestinians. some european governments are concerned that anti semitism could rise here in poland ortiz on wednesday band, a pro palestinian demonstration following clashes earlier in the week purchased. as
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they, they were asked. we're actually on their rights to free speech. here in the small district in southern berlin, pro palestinian demonstrate does apply them together. instead, police what everywhere, sorties bound to protest on the grounds. they could potentially in science and to submit to kate and violence. the accusation rejected by the organizers. yeah, we want to have these right peacefully here in the hospital, in palestinian community to express also a direct to the people of heads that who are under an impressive and unprecedented bull bottom. and right now we want it to re, if i'm continuing solidarity with palestine in the face of these radio occupation, the root of this conflict felon has stepped up police presence of a consent event, some israel and gaza could fuel already existing tensions on saturday
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police clashed with around 50 people, with gathered for a pro promised and demonstration in the same neighborhood. authorities accuse demonstrators of charging m t. israel slogans. a few hours earlier, a group called semi do not handed out pastries in the streets to celebrate what they called the victory of the resistance. we have a very heated atmosphere right now, and germany and berlin in particular have made it very clear that they recognize these males right to exist and do not question it with people in a city who see things differently. according to the police, have to prepare for such situations. the despite the band, some people still came out on wednesday to show the solid r 2 and to highlight the flight, the palestinians. we all those violence, we're all not because we're pro palletized with how much it's not what we're saying . who wants to have the freedom of speech and be able to send to the people who
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cannot speak for themselves. and that's not why or the research, how is it that is real, can turn off the access to resources for watch or for electricity and gaza. how is that possible? because they already control it, because it is an open air print reports and what we need to be able to make sense of that is wrong. why? why are we being silent hobbies to flip con, suite and the out with bombing many, i'll give you the right to free assembly is being infringed. the police say they don't want to risk bomb and spreading. don't full thing below the and you watching dw, and use our coverage on the israel. i'm us will continues after a short break. so gail will be on the desk to take you through link for myself with the ones that's been driving your company by the
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