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felt diploma engages instructions on the feet across them at least asked me, blink them says that you are working with boston us to prevent the conflict from spreading and free hostages. the number such as while back into the program almost one week after the unprecedented from us at that the attacks and it's true, it's really, it is very troops have been cutting out the rates inside. got so the minutes recess, infantry and tanks furnace and to track down, drop it fullest, destroy weapons, and search for hostages. the rates do not appear to be the beginning. often expected down defensive is read, has most troops. i'm tags along because i border that'd be corresponding to rebecca to us instead of be she told us more about the strategies rates on god. so or so

that is what we've been hearing me is riley military saying that they have been carrying out these very smooth, very targeted, very elite teams have been going in and carrying out these raids. it, as you said in the late in the to try, particularly i think to look for some of the more than 100 hosted, as we know are being held in garza. this is the 1st shift really towards the ground invasion though. as you also mentioned, not indicative of the beginning of such a ground invasion though that is something that is largely expected to happen in the coming days of now. week we've been seeing, i was down a this week myself been saying very, very heavy argument and a huge troop movements around that golf and border. and it is thought by everyone that we've had no confirmation from the israeli military, but it is sort of the ground invasion would be the next step. so it isn't surprising that this interim step is a way that they can in to try and look for these hostages and, and,

and do all the targeted access there without triggering of the full ground invasion of this stage to god. this is rebecca with us instead of you. now, 2 thousands of people are attempting to flee the homes and guys of north. there's really ministry has given over $1000000000.00 fee for just 24 hours to rectory itself. the united nations has called the order impossible, and the data will come us is telling people to stay in the homes. but many cousins have decided to just put you on you before a forcible invasion. micro handling a senior fellow for foreign policy at the brookings institution in washington. thank you for joining us. why? cuz i want to start by asking you about is transmitted, treat, calling these localized trades. do you see them as a 1st step, indigo, and envision. and what does localize streets mean at this point? the readings? well, i thought your coverage was mary correct to say that they're looking for certain things and including hostages. obviously, once they go in and mass with

a big force, they know the hostages lives or even greater peril. and so if there's any hope whatsoever of finding those hostages, it makes sense to try to do it beforehand. however, this is very hard work to find people like needles in a haystack to find individuals, whether israel a or a mouse leaders or a mouse holding these rallies because you just don't have a lot of ways to find these individuals. so you can try, you can hope you might know their cell phone numbers or be able to recognize their voices or otherwise have some kind of a telltale signature. but it's not that hard to just find a basement for an apartment and put people there. and there is no particular way modern technology can find a hostage for a mazda liter, just based on, you know, their identity or their dna. so it's going to take some walk to be able to find anything useful with these limited incursions. israel has been watching the gaza

strip for years, obviously. and so they may have some places where they suspect activity's been ongoing. where from aust tends to do it's most important work or have a lot of it's key assets, but a mazda is relatively unlikely to put hostages in those places. so i think israel's probably not going to make a lot of headway in these initial efforts, but it makes sense to try because it may be the best hope for getting anyone out of there a lot. it's. it's interesting to me that you're used that analogy. you also need those in a haystack because it's also talking about an area that is very densely populated, then it's an open today, and that is amongst the most densely populated in the world. is it, given the circumstances even possible for the drugs military to avoid mass of civilian casualties? if the soul followed john defense for it's got it out. so it's going to be awfully hard. and this is of course why is real has asked or demanded that more

than a 1000000 palestinians in the northern part of the cause of stress relocate. it's a preposterous claim at one level. how could they possibly all relocate? how would you ever expect to have boss with let them? and yet if they don't, they're going to be in the cross hairs of an operation that does not know exactly where it's at it. i don't think these realities, they have some initial targets, i'm sure. within cause, beyond that, i believe they're hoping that one target leads to another. they gain intelligence as they perceive. but it's going to have to be, you know, it's going to have to be human intelligence work which is always painstaking slow and in perfect and requires good sources to be done. well, i don't know how many palestinians are gonna want to talk to the israeli army. this can about about to enter into a causal. so my overall concern is that these realities are not going to be able to do very well at finding what they really want except through brute force building by building searches. which means that there will be a lot of firefights. they'll be people with itchy trigger fingers,

they'll be ambush is set out by her boss. i just real respond to innocent people will get caught up in the crossfire is real sometimes. well, think that it's being ambush is really, soldiers will feel that way, even if they're not, it's going to be an extraordinarily intense and unfortunately quite legal battle ground. i'm afraid. and in the coming weeks to that sounds like it was really difficult situation for everybody involved to navigate. and i may be speaking a bit too soon. but if these are the circumstances, the military would be dealing with, at what point can be called for the conclusion to this kind of an offensive, what is the main goal at the end here that would make them and such an offense of the main goal? i believe is the over throw from us. now we all know a prime minister. netanyahu was famously said that if you're a member of a law single guy and that sort of a understandable human emotional reaction to what's just happened to his fellow israelis. but i'm not sure it's a realistic military objective,

but i'm not sure it needs to be. but i think what is real is going to try to do is make sure that a mazda is no longer in charge of the cause of the strip. that itself is going to be difficult objective to cheap, but i think that's the more realistic goal. and what they will be trying to do therefore, is locate the maximum number of cars from us, of leadership, talk them us, command and control sites. any kind of financial assets from us as weapon read the most as and also just to be honest to be blunt a create enough pain for everyone, not through intentional taking of civilian life, but through an operation that will lead to a lot of loss of life. on all sides, that at some point i'm us can be persuaded either to step down or to otherwise allow and international supervision of the rule of cause that going forward. i think that's where this most of the parameters of the conversations that you and i and others will be having over the next 2 or 3 weeks. because you're right, it's too soon to know, right?

we're going to have to see what happens on the valid route before we can really know that these are the kinds of negotiations and compromises and parameters for, you know, adjustment that one could expect to see emerge. thank you. for that analysis, michael had mentioned the brookings institution. thank you. let's take a quick look at some of the new was concerning the conflict. miss stuckey has the gone sending her mind at an age intended for gossip to doctor sheriff. both fans have brought food and medical supplies into egypt that a file border crossing is in southern got size, the only point what age can be delivered. and artillery strike has killed a drawn list of injured 6 of those in southern lebanon. if some of the low appears roy tubs, newer version c, was covered in cash as on the border with, instead of doing this extra generally, i'm doing a good data. one. the attack highlights the risk of the conflict spelling of a gentleman president. time for this time, i called for the fall of data team,

would choose during a visit to a synagogue and berlin. he said, the state must protect church life off to the mazda service group. or violence against jewish communities. steinman said he'd have presents the whole nation at the side of all the tools in germany. vs the us actually goes to it and he blinked and has dropped up tops and caught that. he's been traveling around the beach in the notes, in an attempt to prevent the conflict whitening. he began and as far as the show support and discuss the costs of single fusions, blinked, and also match the palestinian president and jordan. he says it's vices to contain the violence united states and cutter share, the goal of preventing this conflict spreading. we discussed in detail our efforts prevent any act state or non state creating a new front in this conflict. we're also working intensively together to

secure the release of positive learning, american citizen being held by a mouse and gas and i'm grateful for the urgency the cutter is bringing this after . and that's good for me on that. but dw, especially far as long as they are, you put him in washington. it's good to see you at the link and get any more details on how cut out of housing contains this concert. it is expected that we've sort of special connections with him as a group that is designated as a termination by the us and others, but obviously not in contracts that contract can help with hostage negotiations in the 1st a as a, as a 1st priority. as secretary blinking and president biden have reiterated again and again in, in, in the days in the past couple of days that the release of hostages really is a i'm, she's also hoping, i mean, this is part of winter. we're at the region at the moment. she's hoping that

covered can also help with the escalation. the fact has not only relationships with from us, but also relationships with the iranian regime. and so there's, this is definitely also about de escalation as well as maybe helping with us when we speak about the condition of things. and then you also see the situation. and how did you want to reiterate israel's right to defend itself in the space of these unprecedented attacks? and she said that it is a priority or is that she has brought it up with is really partners. that is really has to also consider civilian life in conducting these attacks

and conducting this military operation. he said that there's also an emphasis on finding to mandatory and a 40 doors for civilians within the gaza strip. but he was, he was ask specifically about the evacuation of order that was given to civilians in gaza. but he did not give any details about whether or not he approved or condones. that that particular evacuation from catholic boarding from the secretary of state of the us says, but we are seeing him on as we mentioned this one when store. what exactly is he trying to achieve here? to that right. we're seeing him. you know, he was in between today and he's expected to also be in saudi arabia and he has been to jordan and has met with the palestinian authority there. and that is really in an, in an effort to get also players in the region to condemn protera attacks that took

place in israel. but also in an effort to deescalate the situation here for him in washington dc. following that story for us or frontier blinked and shipped to the middle east. thank you so much you. she has a quick look of mind off the top story we are following for you at this hour. is there a that's got it out. 3, it's inside god. about 10 minutes he says it's troops were, was searching for how much rockets, tools, and pieces being headed to cost. it's don't forget, you can always catch each other in your, on the call or just download our app from hoover play or from the app the app store . they'll give you access to all the data cables from around the boys, as well as pushed notifications for any breaking news. the

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