actually amongst the population because for every adverse or reset is being killed, if there is population being killed as well. this could essentially decide from thanks to minute terry, in the ethical considerations for the neutral posting in population to embrace from us and to become an adverse or a. so that is the biggest problem and, and that's why um, precision needs to be taking into account as well as a, as i said, good intelligence command and control. and of course, from the political side that needs to be and understanding how this military operation will wrap up. and what will happen after is that in terms of um, reinstating the root will floor in the territory and was a israel is ready to commit to a lot of political and monetary assets to palestine at to, to the casa section in, or the to cover. and there, or how this is going to be result. this is unclear. yeah. what do you think the

wider implications are of a major war between israel and how most, how concerned are you about spillover or a much wider conflict of the well, on the one hand, we have factions that are supporting from us, such as has a lot and has will a has already voice that it will not shy away from entering the where should israel start? it's ground operation that's incursion into gaza. so that is the 1st concern that the, that the, another front on the 11 these board there might open, which would be very problematic for each route. and those are problem is the fact that the presence of the u. s. and, and to a lesser extent, also u. k. could also potentially lead to escalation. so the idea of was, this military presence would serve a as a deterrent in order to prevent the groups like half blocks from joining the war.

that being said, um, the escalation can take place, not just because how much it has to level do something, but there is a qu, they can also be misinterpretation, bad intelligence, which could accidentally lead to escalation and with actually towards the us and to the score. and of course, what have the, an arab country saw your, a, b, r, and caught are what have you ran and syria. so, all the regional players will also be the most likely supporting casa, and from us because of the regional, the. com. so we are risking a very big wars that goes well beyond the casa, and we have turbans isn't to raise rock. so it's my turn into huge. we're in the middle east. yeah. as i say, plenty of room for error and such high stakes. marina, thank you for taking the time to speak with us. that's marina moran worsley's research on a case college london. thanks for having

a. so looking further as possible regional implications, us secretary of state and to me blinking has wrapped up talks in katara. he's been traveling around the region in an attempt to prevent the conflict from widening. he began in israel to show support and discuss hostage negotiations and blinking also at the palestinian president in jordan. he's as it is vital to contain the violence united states and cutter share, the goal of preventing this conflict spreading. we discussed in detail our efforts prevent any state or non state. we're creating a new front in this topic. we're also working intensively together to secure the release of positive learning, american citizen being held by a mouse and gas and i'm grateful for the urgency. the cutter is bringing this after

the w. special correspondent abraham told us more about guitars, role and trying to de escalate the conflict as it is expected that we've cutters. sort of special connections with him as a group that is designated as a term organization by the us and others. but obviously not in contracts that contract can help with the hostage negotiations in the 1st as, as, as a 1st priority. each secretary blinking and at present inviting, have reiterated again and again in the days in the past couple of days that the release of hostages really is a i'm, she's also hoping, i mean this is part of when tour of the region at the moment. she's hoping that can also help with the escalation, in fact has not only relationships with from us, but also relationships with the machine. and so there's, this is definitely also about de escalation as well as maybe helping with us

with abraham reporting. let's turn to australia now which has rejected a proposal to recognize indigenous people in the constitution. australian media have projected that at least 4 states would vote know along with a majority of voters, a successful referendum requires at least 4 of the 6 states to vote in favor along with a national majority. australia as indigenous citizens who make up almost 4 percent of the population are not mentioned in the constitution. and are the most disadvantaged people in the country. many fear a waiting for the no campaign could set back reconciliation efforts by years or the big games. in 1996, she represented the nation about paris, the 1st of the original woman to win the big gold medal. now she's been competing for a yes vote in a historic constitutional referendum that she hoped would help empower her fellow

indigenous australians in 19 o one. you left us off the nation's birth certificate. the way, as far as nice as people do not come from any of the continents, no other country. oh astrology is everyone who's come to this country too. and now citizens allow us to be seen to the rest of the world, despite the positive stalled opinion polls pointed early on to a loss for the yes campaign in a vote that have turned into a touchstone, false trading. yes, national identity. a yes vote would not only have formerly recognized the indigenous population as the countries, original inhabitants, but also established a party to advise parliament on their fast foot both david and rupture for supporters of the no campaign. this was a major sticking points we've already taken to help in every way possible that

previously every single bodies have often being corrupt. and if it's not successful, you know means a little to your fashion problems. the know kemp also argued that a successful vote would divide the nation racially by putting the interest of one group of people above the rest. it's giving the access to one portion of the strategy and population to the executive government and to the parliament. this proposal gives them an advantage here, but that is exactly what the indigenous groups meet says nova paris. she had hoped the constitutional change could have helped to turn things around for the nation's most disadvantaged ethnic minority paper. why we the most in cost. right. why that we the most because the high sun employment, right, in some of these remote community, so like 70 to 80 percent aboriginal people suffer in this country. so yes, campaign faults to the last minute, but they need,

it brought supports to with the indigenous communities, only account for 3 percent of the population and left the numbers to significantly improve. and the outcome by themselves. from where i'm joined by our correspondence gave with motus in pers who filed that report. georg advocates of this change must be devastated. can you tell us what was at stake with this vote? why were people being asked to vote in favor? yeah, it's pretty clear that the boat has but has been lost here because it would have taken the majority not only nationwide, but also a majority of the fear out of the 6 australian states. what was at stake here was basically in a way, a symbolic gesture, to acknowledge the 1st nations, the originally people here as of the inhabitants 1st inhabitants of house trailer. but this would really have been the basis for this or constitutional arrangement

for an institution called the voice that would have advised parliament, a non compulsory advice to parliament on how to improve things for the indigenous people here in australia and what many indigenous people have told me here today is it really needs more involvement on the part of originally the communities themselves, to a, to, to improve things for, for their community. so, so more input from the side that most the hope that this institutional mechanism would bring. and then we already heard some kind of reaction from indigenous voices regarding these emerging results. so i've talked to a lot of the regional people here in perth today. this was the last states that voted in australia. and they, they are deeply disappointed that their hope was really that this would have been a chance to turn things around and would really just have to look around. this is an extremely rich country process,

a very rich city. but if you looked into the real communities of original people in the, in the heart of the country, you have extreme poverty there. and how to, to, to change that, that but, and to change that, that, that was the hope on the part of these people. and then adjust the moments ago, the prime minister albany is here. i can see that that, that, that boats has been lost and he made clear that now a new way forward a needs to be found in unity. but clearly that is that it's not what else trained that needs so that the solution for these people can be solved. yeah, tell us a little more gayor about the situation of indigenous peoples in australia. we heard someone in that report talking about high levels of incarceration, high levels of employment, and you've mentioned that this vote was, would have been mostly a symbolic game. what does this tell us about indigenous rights going forward in australia or yeah, it's an age old debate here. of course, you know, how, how can things to be in place, for instance, how can you do cation be?

we brought to these people that the key thing about think about this rep uh, rebec random would have been that it would have brought it provided the mechanism for indigenous people themselves to look for solutions and to provide input that is non compulsory. that is something that the no campaign of, for instance, used it to say look, we're, we're creating a mechanism that is non compulsory. we might as well leave it out. and then you've heard the gentleman in the report who sets up that a lot of these institutional mechanisms where a corrupt up the but on the other end at the moment now there, there is no real mechanism to, to move things forward. and i looked at a number of a reports that effect checking reports both of both sides. and there was a lot of misinformation on the no contained one has to concede. thank you so much for your reporting there. that is due to these corresponded georg my test reporting from pers. before we go, we can give you a quick reminder of our top story. israel has carried out waves inside the cause of

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