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tv   DW News  Deutsche Welle  October 14, 2023 6:00pm-6:16pm CEST

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the, the, this is deal of the news live from berlin, benjamin nathan, you know, visit, is really soldiers gathered up the guys and border and asked them, are you ready? is rarely prime minister makes the visit after issuing dozens and evacuation order to flee to the south. of the territory over a 1000000 people have been told to relocate situation to you and has described as impossible and on a visit to saudi arabia, us secretary of state and to me blinking cause for civilians in israel and guys to be protected. lincoln also phones as the chinese counter part to asp aging, to use its influence in the middle east to stop the conflict from spreading
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the next by sir, welcome to the program is really prime minister benjamin nation. yeah. who has visited troops near the guys a border, a head of an expected ground. defensive is it comes as civilians leave. northern gas is really official said to main roads. would allow people to escape safely and relocate south of the why the guys have wetlands but cut the territory into israel's military has already been attacking targets. it says are linked to hum us . the terrorist group says 9 people with withholding hostage have been killed in those rates in the past 24 hours civilians and guys have also been among the casualties rushing easier to hospital after an air in kansas city. the
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israel's military stepped up air strikes on how mass targets a week after how mass launched terror attacks in israel. that to more than 1000 people made bombardments and ground raids. israel's military says it dropped pamphlets, giving civilians in northern gather a new time window to evacuate to the south. the warning comes ahead of an expected ground invasion by israel. but the united nations is urging israel to revoke the evacuation order warning of a humanitarian disaster. they are calling for an end to the stage on data. and the passage of 8 our call now is uh for uh, long humanitarian. it pauses to entertain clay doors, face buses just bored at 8 to reach the children and families. and then it goes to
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also the protection of children is, is but amount. and it's the sponsibility of all of talk you through the complex israel's army. it uses how mass of stopping civilians from evacuating and stress that its target in gaza is from us terrorist the palestinian civilians and gaza or north our enemies. we don't assess them as such and we don't target them as such. if they were obviously the situation in gaza would be totally different. we are trying to do the right thing, trying to evacuate civilians in order to minimize the risk for them. and meanwhile, to israel's north and 11 on israel's armies as it killed several terrace trying to cross the border. lebanon's has the law a militant group back by iran has said it is prepared to join it's ally her mouth and fighting is real. fears are amounting that the conflict between her mouth and israel could spill over across the region. let's go to debbie's.
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rebecca rivera's who is a came for us near the is really border with gaza. rebecca, we keep hearing that a ground defensive is imminent. what's your impression there but suddenly feels that way from where i'm standing, nick i was here a couple of days ago. i've been back in jerusalem. but since i got back to that, you can see the quite stock a upgrade over the amount of hardware and troops that are around this region. excuse me. it started raining here. when i was here the other day, there was a huge build up of hardware just behind us in this field today. when we came down here, you could see another massive build up on the other side of the highway. it definitely has the feeling that this ground defensive, that everyone believes is going to take place. is there gearing up for it and it is going to take place soon. today, as you mentioned there in the late in their benjamin netanyahu, the prime minister visited 2 of the keyboards, says me, there it goes,
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this trip that you know, with the seeing that there's her. if it comes from last weekend, he spoke to troops there and he said, be prepared with get ready. the next move is, is going to take place certain. so it definitely feels as though this ground offensive is what we believe is going to happen is going to happen saying earlier, actually i saw what was in the 9 military vehicle coming across this right behind it. sorry, it's very dark. and how many getting the prospective they have, but they us, the vehicles that go in in a ground, if those incursions 1st make clear the way behind them of the tanks and then the troops. so definitely preparing for what could be an imminent ground invasion. okay, rebecca has we're talking we're showing our viewers pictures of benjamin netanyahu meeting troops. and we've also been looking at pictures of israeli strikes on northern gas flattening entire city blocks. it would seem, what can you tell us more about the safe passage quarters at the guidelines were offered to flee southward as well. that safe passage was supposed
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to expire this morning, was extended until 4 pm this afternoon. and as far as we are aware, uh that was carried out. that was a safe passage from here. you could hear far less if any of the old asteroids normally the one i received the other day. boom boom. we could hear the strikes uh fully into gaza. you couldn't hear any of those this afternoon just in the last hour or 2. we've heard them pick up again. we saw a couple on the horizon and you can't see them now, but there are a couple of fires. also burning on the, on the other side of the border in gaza. so the strikes picking up a game. we had a confirmation from the idea that that was in fact taking place now in terms of the civilians trying to get out. we're talking about 1100000 people trying to move south. now they have begun to do so, but it's a complicated process. it isn't going to be able to happen very quickly. we've heard from the un saying that is something like that is k, all taken the most vulnerable people are going to not be able to carry out that
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kind of a move. we're talking about the same people, pregnant women, you know, elderly. these are these people who are going to be stuck left behind and that the idea of how they use writing military has a, excuse me, the range is getting very heavy. now the thing is how do you know to really have a duty to, to continue to protect those civilians. on the other side, we also know that yesterday they were offered some sort of safe passage as well. and we were getting reports that around 70 civilians were struck by a buying a strike. so there's a lot of fear among people. we also have been hearing reports that have most of trying to prevent civilians from leaving the areas. so all in all we're talking about 1100000 people trying to move in a very, very crowded space down to the southern part of gaza. and it's not, it's not something that's going to be able to happen in a 24 hour period. okay dw, as rebecca re, renter's importing for us from southern israel. and these rarely government has
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called up some 360000 reserves and mass troops as we've been hearing. and tanks along the border with gas on the palestinian territory has been under siege in a near constant ground, an air bombardment. israel says a senior from us military commander was killed in the air strikes. israel is believe to be planning a major ground offensive, although we don't have a start time for that yet. mike martin is a military analyst at king's college in london. he told me what israel would be taking into consideration as it prepares for that offensive. i think that's just the problem. it's not clear that israel does have a strategy. the type of rule that is trying to sites which is against the minutes include stats, embedded with civilians. these was always have political solutions of some sort. the ministry pays of a pot, the moment is where it is conducting
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a ministry of ration without any kind of political aims or goals. and so that's, that's the big problem. and that's, that's something the israel should think about because it tells us how they going to conduct the operation, but also how they going to get out and finish the operation at the end of it. and israel has a mixed record, as you know of using military force and guys in the up killing many civilians and not actually getting rid of her mouse. and in the meanwhile, there are there any signs do think that they have learned, or can learn from past experience this time around? i i, i think you've hit upon the most important thing here, which is the energy milledgeville pricing. you need to discriminate between minute 2 targets and civilian targets and that's very difficult to do whenever you have a militant group, but also particularly in an oven area. i think over the last few days we've seen a one of the heaviest ariel bombardments that i think the as well as ever conducted . so it doesn't seem clear to me that they have learned those lessons about
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avoiding screening conversation. i'm not also sure with some of the rhetoric coming out of as well at the moment. so key about lane seems to gaza is not clear that they are really attempting to separate mitch thomas from civilian targets and moving away from the battle ground itself. what are the, what wider regional risks of the war between israel and how much do you think? well, how much is a major sponsor is, of course iran and iran has a web of alliances in the region with has belong to the north of israel, both with the syrian regime and of course with, with russia. and so the big danger have, of course, is that it wrong gets dragged into the war in a much more major way. of course, one of the things it appears how much this trying to achieve was to break down this,
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the so called abraham a codes between israel and saudi arabia and the en route. and that was one of the runs major goals as well. so there's a huge web stretching across the region and the critic nights as a result of this contract. and that's of course why, you know, the americans has sent a carry, a bustle group to the east submitted training because they, i've used that as a warning to everyone to just step back and keep the conflict contains. thank you, mike. mike martin from king's college london. and peter learner is a spokes person for these really defense forces. i asked him where the civilians who have left northern guys that are going to stay a thank you, nick. we are on the oh, offensive trying to destroy how much does capabilities it's terrorist infrastructure is come on and control positions all the places that they are utilizing in order to conduct strides multiple goods and stage attacks against
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israel. we have instructed yesterday morning and the population living in the most of the go straight to go to the so precisely in order to differentiate between civilian and come back inside of the tires themselves. and that is what we're doing . currently. we expect them to go south, and indeed we are in a state of war, a rule that must declared on us by butchering our babies in their bedrooms. so that the people that the people of gaza that have been let down miserably by. i'm us, the governing bought the, it's not only a terraced organization that was missing into on us because not just a terrorist organization. this is a terrorist government that utilize the state that governs trip as a staging ground for a massacre. and as well as our, the, the, the prime minister of gaza is a known terrorist, the shifting wire. this guy he, as a, he is the most in mind of the mastercard. and so we are targeting from us and their
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infrastructure, their leaders, their commanders, the individuals that make the decision at the top that you have seen martin. so the system denise, and i would say that they, but we are, we are determined to deal with that threat. indeed, the military operation is, and its goal is to rigs that the threats of terrorism from us once and for all. let me help me understand how this works. of the civilians move south. and the israeli government has often said that the guys are essentially prisoners of how mass and they're being used as human shields. what's to prevent the how mass fighters terrorist has been from moving down with the people? how do you, how do you keep on top of that? or indeed it is. one of the challenges about this is this specifically the reason why we need to operate the games from us as soon as possible. but i would say that we need to have a situation on the grounds where how much is proceeds and that we can get hold of
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them if they further and bet themselves within the civilian population. as they, as you pointed out, and rightly rightly, you know, they have no recalls with human life and the, and there is a distinct possibility that they will do so. but i will give you an idea of one of the things that we've been doing over the last few days. you know, you know how much because they're so proud of their butchering. they've broadcasted on social media and much of their activities of the mexico. and by doing so, they also expose themselves and we've seen lots of them. we can identify. and i can even confirm here that we've even targeted and killed at least one of those that was involved. specifically in the attack, we killed one of their commanders. i caught the who was in charge of the breach of the parameter of the back of the boulder area. so yes, we are differentiating. we are gathering intelligence. i can say that the, those the, the tourists,
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the hundreds of terraced and reached into his route. and that were killed in the exchanges without forces in the off the mass of america. they left a lot of intelligence for us together in the process. and in order to help us seek out and destroy from us. and that's our escape ability. okay, well when you're speaking about differentiating between civilians and military are viewers i've seen on, on, on this channel and other, other viewers on other channels, entire neighborhoods, flattened in, in northern gazda. there's inevitably collateral damage how, how, how, how do you sort of square that with what you're saying about only targeting the leadership of how much people who go back south are going to come back and not have homes. the un was even calling as a form of collective punishment. one of the targets we uh, struck the day before yesterday was a rooftop of 3 or 4 houses on the rooftops from us had possessed.

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