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the adoption side of the border with casa supplies that are desperately needed by the over 2000000 civilians strapped on the other side of the crossing gauze and caught in the middle of the fighting between hamas militants. and the is really army, are running out of food, water, fuel and places to seek shelter with an is really round defensive against thomas expected to start any time. now, diplomatic efforts to achieve at least a humanitarian truths, are running high. israel is warning of a long war ahead and concern is growing for the civilians who have no chance to run from it on the golf. really in berlin. and this is the day the we're living in the west of time. gaza is out of power. hospitals are running out of fuel for their generators,
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bill. life is running out of water running. we are saying, go to the significance here. once we burge disobedience, we evacuate. you cannot ask people to move out of harm's way without assisting them to do it. our goal is to victory a crushing victory over how much they have that they want to. but the expert trajectory is going to destroy gap. also on the day, a major shake up in poland. motor is give a governing majority to pro e u. opposition. parties were promising to end years of democratic backsliding by the nationalist law and justice party the whole and as one democracy has one. yeah, we have driven them from power and this result may turn out to be even the best uh,
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usable. so we can already announced today calling it this is the end of the rain and great calling you of law and justice. welcome to the day for days, international aid organizations have been warning of the increasingly desperate humanitarian situation in the gaza strip. they say time is running out to save millions of people as fuel, food and other vital supplies, dwindle image, a total blockade, and intense bombardment. after the recent time lost her attacks in israel. israel has stepped up, its air strikes into gauze on ordered a 1000000 people there to leave the north and head south ahead of unexpected ground offensive gauze as much ortiz granado for space ice cream trucks are being used to store the dead bodies, the number of casualties is multiplying every day. the soft loudest struggling to
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name d r. i mean victims i the ice, these are the ice cream freezers. ice cream freezers contains so many bodies of the dead inside these trucks. the bodies here have not been identified since day one due to their gruesome state. when i met the mythologies, bodies could not be identified. unknown bodies that should be honorably buried in the political hospital, hospitals, or will event with injured civilians. as it all continues, it strikes and prepares for sea income offensive the essential supplies, like food, bother and clean water running shot in the sort of hospital in the southern tunnel fun eunice, doctors have a struggle to treat patients and their fear many will die once and great dogs run out of tune about one day my field news,
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the whole symbol and the shuttle to give the citizen the road vision from the data so that his eyes defense forces have one people to move from densely populated northern garza to the south. many followed the ultimatum and left but but that impending has disaster and ongoing as strikes. this search for safety hasn't ended. assembled, boucher is a journalist and those they're out in central gauze on earlier he described to us what it was like where he was. you ation is very clear. take miserable very hard. no electricity, no. with the sales people are queueing on picking. rees on, uh, 2 or 3 shops, the middle of the way, the areas on boardman. like you can hear it from the back. the ground is our
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carrying gun manger then kills people from different places across the golden stretch that is age where eatable by me continues differently from the from time to time. so people would hear, i was going to refill it or anything, the history for the as well. and the whole band and the looking at the ceasefire, which it didn't work according fidelity. so we can now speak to china low. she's a spokeswoman for the norwegian refugee accounts, so good to see you. now you have colleagues working in gaza. what help are they able to provide to people in the circumstance as our colleagues, mendoza? the norwegian refugee campbell have not been able to provide any assistance since all of this began on october 7th. the situation is just simply on safe for our teams to be able to go out and access communities and need provide them with the
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assistance right now our staff is focused entirely on making sure that they and their families are, sees that they and their families have a roof over their heads that they have food to eat, that they have access to water. that is all that we as humanity ariens can do right now. and that's why we need israel to lift the total siege on the god the strip and allow in the fuel electricity, water food. and we need there to be humana. terry, in court, or is a stablish and the, and the influx of humanitarian assistance into the godless trip. so that we can start to do our jobs that to man the periods and reach those communities in need. but we need to have guarantees of safety in order for them to be able to do it. but in you just today announced that it's preparing an air lift to um, to egypt for 8 organizations operating and gaza. now, how confident are you that this aid will get through? because right now there are 2000 tons of supply stuck at the border. i mean, we,
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that's why we need international pressure. we need in the international community to be creative and how they're going to get interested in the gaza. i know that there has been roadblocks, disagreements over uh, who can monitor the a to make sure that it is to mandatory. and that this does, that's going and we need the international community to work, work quickly to, to alleviate those roadblocks and help to let us just just get to decide to gaza. now almost half of the population of gaza has followed is really evacuation orders and moved south. how big a burden is there displacement for the already struggling infrastructure there to the north of gaza, where these people have fled from was the was the center of economic cultural civic life. that's where the institutions were. that's where the hospitals were. and really the south, the southern part of god, the does not have the infrastructure,
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does not have the facility to accommodate that giant influx of people. my colleague yusef told me earlier today, and it's the 1st time he's ever seen homeless people in gaza because palestinians are known for their generosity, their hospitality. he himself is being hosted by extended relatives in the south. but there just isn't enough capacity. you and that facilities have, are, are overflowing the owner. why has said this today that they don't have capacity to help any more. and that's why we need there to be, uh, the assistance to, to reach inside of god that we need israel to reverse. it's a order that palestinians flee from the north. we need them to be able to return those who still have home standing to their homes. it's just to humanitarian catastrophe. one thing that i should also mention is that the majority of hospitals are in the north and, and there are patients there who cannot be moved feasibly moved to the south bowes
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because it's difficult just to transport them. and also because there aren't the live saving, live saving equipment and facilities that they need. this also goes for people who have chronic conditions like that and the dialysis if they have kidney failure, there just aren't facilities in the south to accommodate all of these people. now there for shelter, for health care, for water, and for all the other infrastructure that's needed to help people survive. and all of this is happening before israel has even launched this widely expected major ground offensive against thomas. how do you think will this affect cause us civilian population? once it happens, if it happens, i mean, we're already seeing that things are catastrophic levels. the conditions on the ground are just and speak about their shortages of food, water, other daily essentials, and a ground operation. is only going to cause ment civilian suffering. these are
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2300000 innocent civilians trapped inside of the gaza strip. who have absolutely nothing to do with what happened on october 7th and they are being punished for it . it's important to remember that more than that almost 50 percent of the population in gaza, our children under the age of 18. these are innocent civilians that are paying a price for something they have absolutely nothing to do with china low from the norwegian refugee council. thank you so much for your time. thank you. as this conflict intensifies by the day, some are asking china to use as regional influence to help deescalate. you might remember beijing brokers a normalization agreement between iran and saudi arabia earlier this year, and also enjoys warm relations with around the country that back amongst the terrace group. launch the recent attack against israel. a china has declared it's
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neutrality in the matter, but has failed to condemn her moss as the aggressor and accused israel's response of being excessive. still, china says it's intends to send a piece on by to the region to do that well, to advance the 2 state solution piece tools should resume as soon as possible or you've got all kinds of mechanisms to mike talk. so should play a role in this regard to especially which one is invoice will visit region to attempt to reach a ceasefire. and the bombing, deescalate the situation is obviously lots of interest at play here and about those . we can now speak to believe non soccer rober. she's a geo political strategist and consulting based in vienna. miss tucker ro, welcome to the day and tell me, how could the conflict in the middle east affect the global balance of power? well, 1st and foremost, we need to understand that we are already in a cold for 2.0 scenario in terms of the global context. that is a competition between the united states on the one hand and china and russia on the
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other. and now we have a 2nd front where these competition is being manifested, given the fact that, uh, similar uh, development has occurred in eastern europe when russia launched the war against ukraine. namely, now we are observing similar behavior by china, also in the middle east, where another convergence of interest between russia and china has so logically marched as expected. mm. at how is beijing using the situation to its advantage at this point? as well as it was pointed out, in fact, china was pursuing a normalization of relations between uh on the one hand israel and the our approach on the other name. the as it was also highlighted to the chinese broker deal between saudi arabia and iran. this was
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a very big diplomatic highlight and china was also implying of the, of the emission to a broker of view between israel and palestine. so in fact the, the plans are now put on hold as we've seen. also a, with the american plans towards normalization between these royal and socio ravia. so here i'm now china is pursuing, it's so old, let's say a more traditional approach. sure. regarding the region, namely that china has been, i, in fact, well in support of 2 state solution and has been supported also of the palestine in cost that goes back to the time of the cold war. similar also to what frustrates doing. mm hm. and this is, of course, a hugely complex conflict. do you think we'll see china hit a wall when it comes to it's ambitions to, to expand its reach in the middle east here as well. let's not forget the china is
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already declined. number one, when it comes to a lot of commodities coming out from the region. so the output countries were in fact, strongly interested in intensifying the relationship with china. given the fact that china is also the largest exporter of the commodities in the world. so in a sense, trying to cannot spent neutral uh, even though that it just wants to gain of following the same approach as it did in eastern europe, which, which tor, against ukraine. sending an invoice more or less announcing on your trailer to, you know, china is not mutual on this conflict. same as with the other and let's not forget to, to, we have a 3rd front which is of course a, taiwan. so it is a multi from to a competition, and here once again, china will have to position itself. so clearly, what we expect is that the true position itself, together with russia in
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a more convergence way as we'll proceed to the united states. so which is clearly supporting israel, let's look at a russian because they're seeking more immediate games. how likely do you think this conflict is to draw attention and resources, of course, as well away from ukraine as well basis, goal number one, as seen from russia's perspective of the very fact that now there is a risk of immediate war that is the ground offensive that is release planning to conduct to in the gaza stripe is a good news from russia's perspective. why? because the international attention will be drawn to another region. and russia, of course, will be more or less a continue. and it's worth petition against a crane that is a goal number one, goal number to, of course, is not to have a war with the oldest fuel over effects in the region, but at least ongoing, mainly to retentions. this is why russia has now actually declared that wants to
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position itself as a mediator while having all these conversations with key players in the region, such as edgy rom, uh, even in the post and in a tory t. so in a sense, this is a typical behavior refresher to take of all the sites to position themselves between all decides to support all the sides. well, actually making sure that the, as a said, really to retentions continue. and this is also a positive from russian point of view, because the united states will have to get involved on the side of each row. each royal is strategic partner among the most important situ partners of the united states. and that also means in the long run that ukraine may face a situation where the americans will no longer provide me with 38. another of course, good news from russian perspective. so you only know it means the tricia will
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actually support the 2 states. the solution will actually go against a military innovation. so ground defensive. yeah. but will also try to position itself in between. will have to leave it. there is a, a political strategist believe that talk her over. thank you so much for your input . thank you very much. to poland now with the right wing governing law and justice party appears to be on the verge of losing power. exit polls from sunday's general election suggests the party one the most, most spots that opposition parties will be better place to form a government, a bid or victory for prime minister mateo is more of yet ski and the sweet 2nd spot for opposition leader dog to us who called at the beginning of a new era potent selection, so the highest vote to turn out in more than 3 decades and roaches still biting for the final results in was so many residents were happy with the exit polls
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indication that the incumbent law and justice policy is unlikely to secure us that i'm very happy and i think the colon will now finally move a bit closer to europe, and that will be respected there. the good times we return, and we'll put an end to the middle ages of those a skeptical thoughts. hope that the political shift will be a positive one. because i am disappointed with the results, but i accept vouchers. democracy. we don't have the final result. see it there on the exit polls, but nevertheless, they seduced the victory for those who call themselves the democratic opposition. i think my policy is also democratic, the lower and justice policy for you to pay, you know, position to lead a donor to us is confident. he says he and his civic coalition party already have
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a mandate to lead the next government meeting. we have a really tough battle. we will form a government as soon as possible. a good democratic government without partners. poland has, would you have won the men and women of poland to have one a little bit of just this policy one, move it to any single policy that fits the you just said you did not know if the party success would lead to another tab and power cannot do is to have that done this, they put that in all thought to those 2, but of course we are still facing the question of whether we can turn this success into another time. yeah, i mean it's something we still don't know yet. you machine besides review due to that and just let us know that we need to have whole benjamin 0. and we know that empower or in opposition. we will keep working on this project in different ways
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and we will not flip poland people try how the power to use the christian democratic. so dwight coalition and the new less capacity, but also celebrating their success on the next night. and they're looking to be pot who in coalition government? many analysts believe the positions strong shelving domestically increased the relationship between brussels and also i've got some analysis now from michelle barnowski, he's the managing director of the german marshall fund east. he joins me from the polish capital. warsaw, mr. barnowski, welcome back to the day. now out of all the scenarios in play right now, what is the most likely outcome? who do you think will end up holding the reins of power in poland? a it's very clear that the exit, paul and the late paul points to the government farm by united democratic opposition of 4 parties and there, and probably the time and there's,
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there's shipped off donalds to us. we are still waiting for our final results. they will probably come on tuesday mid day, but so far the results coming in confirmed yesterday's exit polls pointing to a position when each selection. so this is a huge strength of we're looking at what does it mean for poland domestically and internationally, of course as well. absolutely, this is really an unexpectedly high victory, a large victory par, and for the opposition and also incredibly high turn out 10 percent higher. then during our 1989 election, this will stories historical election. it will, we, we may call it any to whether we make colleagues place in europe. one of the key differences will be points, relations with its neighbors. both germany, ukraine,
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to some extent, also france. and perhaps more importantly, the way that poland is looking to brussels. the way the poland in gauges, you'd opinion that so far over the last few years has been much more of a negative obstruction. is to you. now it's going to be constructed even if not do the same as the many other views. it will be constructed voice in europe and debates will poland automatically be able to return to the folder? is there some work to be done as well? if it's out to our allies in partners? and i think most of the eh, capital sweetie, breathes a sigh of relief or tomorrow we'll, we'll do that. and i think that the work will require both sides. warsaw and our allies and, and partners. the sooner that we can think through new agenda for a bilateral relations and farm throeder of foreign policy,
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the sooner that paul ej will be able to replay the role it needs to play far, the changes and betterment of your opinion. you already mentioned the historic turn out a little earlier, even higher than in 1989. what do you think motivated people to go to the polls? so 1st of all, let me say it was, it's huge. you could feel it on the street. you could feel it in uh, in the uh, in when people are where boating last, the polls close that might be in, but some people have to stay in the line until 3. yeah. there were so many people willing to about why such a huge turn out that it was clear that this was actually started collection. that's why i'm thinking the it was breeding to close to call before effect. so both sides are all sides of the political spectrum. we're motivated to,
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to come out and it was clear that the states are credit cards really across the board because for both sides larger the, let's put it as the government side and the opposition side. it was clear that what's that state is vision of paul is paul and i have placed in europe and poland, domestic politics, which obviously are hugely determined by the outcome of yesterday's vote. yeah. now the largest this party won't like winning the election but being kept out of power . do you think there is a scenario where they could refuse to accept the results? no, i don't. i don't think there is any way for, for anyone to question the results. there is a very strong legitimacy of this about partially also because of the terminal degree that we talked about. poland like many other uh, wisdom european democracies or democracies really across the world. but it's not
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enough to just have the most of the votes. you have to have the majority. very often you have to form cause issues and even the exit polls. tense if the results are similar, then low and just as it just will not have the ability to form enough wide colors and to keep the government, it will be the opposition that is able to gather not only majority, but actually a strong majority. yeah. perhaps a majority that will able to keep this government in color for the full 4 years. tell me how far enough key of the german marshal fund east on the election results in poland. thank you so much for your insight. thank you very much. i or another time we'll be back tomorrow with more from all of us here on the day. thank you so much for spending part of your day. by the
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