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of 2000 tons of age stuck on the addiction side of the border with causal supplies that are desperately needed by the over 2000000 civilians strapped on the other side of the crossing gauze and caught in the middle of the fighting between hamas militants and the is really army, are running out of food, water, fuel and places to seek shelter within is really round defensive against thomas expected to start any time, no diplomatic efforts to achieve, at least a humanitarian truths are running high. israel is warning of a long war. ahead and concern is growing for the civilians who have no chance to run for much. nicole fairly in berlin and this is the day the we're living in the west of time. gaza is out of power. hospitals are running out
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of fuel for their generators, bill life is running out of water running. we are saying that they're slow to be significant with these here. once we purch disobedience, we evacuate, you cannot ask people to move out of harm's way without assisting them to do it. our goal is to victory a crushing victory over how much they have said they want to put their current directory is going to destroy the gap. also on the day, a major shake up in poland. motor is give a governing majority to pro e u opposition. parties were promising to end years of democratic backsliding by the nationalist law and justice party. are the you sold and as one of the democracy has one. yeah, we have driven them from power. well,
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and this result may turn out to be even better, usable, so we can already announced today calling it this is the end of the rain calling you of law and justice. welcome to the day for days, international aid organizations have been warning of the increasingly desperate humanitarian situation in the gaza strip. they say time is running out to save millions of people as fuel, food and other vital supplies, dwindle image, a total blockade, and intense bombardment. after the recent time lost her attacks in israel, israel has stepped up, its air strikes into gauze on ordered a 1000000 people there to leave the north and head south ahead of unexpected ground offensive gauze as much ortiz granado for space. ice cream trucks are being used to store the dead bodies. the number of casualties
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is multiplying every day. the soft audit struggling to name the arriving victims. with the device, these are the ice cream freezers. ice cream freezers contains so many bodies of the dead inside these trucks. these bodies here have not been identified since day one due to the gruesome state. and when i just asked mr. mcdonald, these bodies could not be identified. unknown bodies that should be honorably buried. in the political ha, hospitalized article event with injured civilians. as it all continues, it strikes and prepares for the income, offensive essential supplies, like food, bother and clean water running shot in the sort of hospital and the southern tunnel fun eunice, doctors have a struggle to treat patients and their fear many will die once some great dogs run
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out of tune about one day my fuel. the whole system on the shuttle to give the service would be the would be something that you would do is rise. defense forces have one people to move from densely populated northern garza to the south. many followed the ultimatum and left but but that impending had disaster and ongoing as strikes. this search for safety hasn't ended. assembled, boucher is a journalist and those era in central gods on earlier he described to us. but it was like where he was, where she needs very clear take miserable, very hard. no electricity, no, with the sales people are queueing on bakeries on uh, uh, 2 or 3 shops. the middle of that is way the area and on boardman. like you can hear
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it from the back, the ground is our carrying gun injured and killed people from different places across the golden thread that this is a really bombardment continue differently from the real science design. so people would here as get a refill or anything but history for the as well. and then the whole band and the looking at the ceasefire, which it didn't work according to the official. so we can now speak to china low. she is a spokeswoman for the norwegian refugee accounts, so good to see you. now you have colleagues working in gaza. what help are they able to provide to people in the circumstance our colleagues in gaza at the norwegian refugee campbell have not been able to provide any assistance since all of this began on october 7th. the situation is just simply unsafe for our
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teams to be able to go out and access communities in need, provide them with assistance. right now our staff is focused entirely on making sure that they and their families are, sees that they and their families have a roof over their heads that they have food to eat, that they have access to water. that is all that me as humana, terry, and can do right now. and that's why we need is real to lift the total siege on the gaza strip and allow in the fuel electricity, water, food. and we need there to be humana. terry, in court, or is a stablish and the, and the influx of humanitarian assistance into the godless trip. so that we can start to do our jobs as many periods and reach those communities in need. but we need to have guarantees of safety in order for them to be able to do it. but in you adjust today, announced that is preparing an air lift to um, to egypt for 8 organizations operating and gaza. now, how confident are you that this aid will get through?
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because right now there are 2000 tons of supply stuck at the border. i mean, we, that's why we need international pressure. we need in the international community to be creative and how they're going to get interested in the gaza. i know that there has been roadblocks, disagreements over uh, who can monitor the a to make sure that it is human to tearing assistance. that's going and we need the international community to work more quickly to, to alleviate those roadblocks and help to let us just just get to decide to gaza. now, almost half of the population of gaza has followed is really evacuation orders and moved south. how big a burden is there displacement for the already struggling infrastructure there to the north of gaza, where these people have fled from was the was the center of economic cultural civic life. that's where the institutions were. that's where the hospitals were. and
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really the south, the southern part of god, the does not have the infrastructure, does not have the facility to accommodate that giant influx of people. my colleague use, they've told me earlier today, and it's the 1st time he's ever seen homeless people in gaza because those demands are known for their generosity, their hospitality. he himself is being hosted by extended relatives in the south. but there just isn't enough capacity. you and that facilities have, are, are overflowing the owner. why has said this today that they don't have capacity to help any more. and that's why we need there to be, uh, the assistance to, to reach inside of god that we need israel to reverse its, uh, order that palestinians flee from the north. we need them to be able to return those who still have home standing to their homes. it's just to humanitarian catastrophe. one thing that i should also mention is that the majority of hospitals are in the north and,
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and there are patients there who cannot be moved feasibly moved to the south bowes because it's difficult to transport them. and also because there aren't the live saving, live saving equipment and facilities that they need. this also goes for people who have chronic conditions like that and the dialysis if they have kidney failure, there just aren't facilities in the south to accommodate all of these people. now there for shelter, for health care, for water, and for all the other infrastructure that's needed to help people survive. and all of this is happening before israel has even launched this widely expected major ground offensive against thomas. how do you think will this affect cause us civilian population? once it happens, if it happens, i mean, we're already seeing that things are catastrophic levels. the conditions on the ground are just and speak about their shortages of food, water, other daily essentials, and
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a ground operation. is only going to cause immense civilian suffering. these are 2300000 innocent civilians trapped inside of the gaza strip. who have absolutely nothing to do with what happened on october 7th, and they are being punished for it. it's important to remember that more than that almost 50 percent of the population in gaza, our children under the age of 18. these are innocent civilians that are paying a price for something they have absolutely nothing to do with china low from the norwegian refugee council. thank you so much for your time. thank you. as this conflict intensifies by the day, some are asking china to use as regional influence to help deescalate. you might remember beijing brokers, a normalization agreement between iran and saudi arabia earlier this year, and also enjoys warm relations with ron, a country that back home on the terrace group launch the recent attack against
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israel. a china has declared it's neutrality in the matter, but has failed to condemn her moss as the aggressor and accused israel's response of being excessive. still, china says it's intends to send a piece on by to the region to do that. well, food funds for the 2 state solution piece tools should resume as soon as possible. we've got all kinds of mechanisms to make talk. so should play a role in this regard to the special which one is invoice will visit region 2, attempt to reach a ceasefire. and the bombing deescalate the situation as obviously lots of interest at play here. and about those. we can now speak to valley not soccer robot. she's a geo political strategist and consulting based in vienna. miss tucker ro, welcome to the day and tell me, how could the conflict in the middle east affect the global balance of power? well, 1st and foremost, we need to understand that we are already in a cold for 2.0 scenario uh, in terms of the global context that these uh,
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competition between the united states on the one hand and china and russia on the other. and now we have a 2nd front where these competition is being manifested, given the fact that, uh, similar uh, development has occurred in eastern europe when russia launched the war against ukraine. namely, now we are observing similar behavior by china, also in the middle east, where another convergence of interest between russia and china has so logically marched as expected. mm. how is beijing using the situation to it's advantage at this point as well as it was pointed out, in fact the china was pursuing a normalization of relations between uh on the one hand israel and the our approach on the other. mainly as it was also highlighted to the chinese broker deal between
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saudi arabia, new rom. this was a very because diplomatic highlight. and china was also implying of the, of the emission to a broker of view between israel and palestine. so in fact to the plans are now put on hold, as we've seen, also a, with the american plans towards normalization between israel and socio review. so here i'm now china is pursuing, it's so old, let's say a more traditional approach. sure. regarding the region, namely that china has been in fact um, well in support of 2 state solution and has been supported also of the palestine in course that goes back to the time of the cold war. similar also to what frustrates doing this is of course there's usually complex conflict. do you think we'll see china hit a wall when it comes to it's and visions to,
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to expand its reach in the middle east here as well. let's not forget the china is already decline. number one, when it comes to a lot of commodities coming out from the region. so the output countries were in fact, strongly interested in intensifying the relationship with china. given the fact that china is also the largest exporter of the commodities in the world. so in a sense, trying to can not spend neutral uh, even though that it just wants to gain of following the same approach as it did in eastern europe, which which tor, against ukraine, sending an invoice more or less announcing on neutrality. no, china is not mutual on this conflict. same as with the other and let's not forget to it. we have a 3rd front, which is of course, a taiwan. so it is a multi from to a competition. and here, once again, china will have to position itself. so clearly what we expect is that it will
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position itself together with russia in a more convergence way as we'll proceed to the united states. so we choose so clearly supporting israel. let's look at a russian because they're seeking more immediate games. how likely do you think this conflict just to draw attention and resources, of course, as well away from ukraine as well basis, goal number one, as seen from russia's perspective of the very fact that now there is a risk of an immediate war that is the ground offensive that is release planning to conduct to in the gaza strip, is a good news from russia's perspective. why? because the international attention will be drawn to another region. and russia, of course, will be more or less a continue, and it's worth petition against ukraine. that is a goal number one, goal number to, of course, is not to have a war with the oldest fuel over effects in the region,
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but at least ongoing, mainly to retentions. this is why russia has now actually declared that it wants to position itself as a mediator while having all these conversations with key players in the region, such as edgy rom, uh, even the post and in a tory t. so in a sense, this is a typical behavior refresher to take of all the sites to position themselves between all decides to support all the sides. well, actually making sure that the, as a said, really to retentions continue. and this is also a positive from russian point to view, because the united states will have to get involved on the side of each row, each royal east strategic partner among the most important situ partners of the united states. and that also means in the long run that ukraine may face a situation where the americans will no longer provide me with 38. another of
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course, good news from russian perspective. so you only know it means that tricia will actually support the 2 states. the solution will actually go against a military innovation. so ground defensive. yeah. but we'll also try to position itself in between. we'll have to leave it there, 0 political strategist believe that to her over. thank you so much for your input. thank you very much. to poland now with the right wing governing law and justice party appears to be on the verge of losing power. exit polls from sunday's general election suggests the party one the most, most spots that opposition parties will be better place to form a government, a bid or victory for prime minister mateo is more of yet ski and the sweet 2nd spot for opposition leader dog to us who called at the beginning of a new era potent selection. so the highest vote to turn out in more than 3 decades . and rotors still waiting for the final results in was so many residents were
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happy with the exit polls indication that the incumbent law and justice body is unlikely to secure of us that i'm very happy and i think that poland will now finally move a bit closer to europe, that will be respected there. the good times we return and will put an end to the middle ages. of those a skeptical thoughts, hope that the political shift will be a positive one. but as i am disappointed with the results, but i accept that as democracy, we don't have the final result. see it there on the exit polls. but nevertheless, they seduced the victory for those who call themselves the democratic opposition. i think my policy is also democratic. the lower and justice policy for you to pay, you know, position to lead
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a donor to us is confident. he says he and his civic coalition party already have a mandate to lead the next government meeting. we have a really tough battle. we will form a government as soon as possible. a good democratic government without partners. poland has would you have won the men and women of poland to have one a little bit of just this potty one move it to any single policy that fits the just said he did not know if the pocky success would lead to another tab and power did not me is to say that in all thought to those who, but of course we are still facing the question of whether we can turn this success into another time. it's something we still don't know yet you machine besides libya, due to that you have let us know that we need to have wholly benjamin 0. and we know that empower or in opposition. we will keep working on this project in
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different ways and we will not split poland people try how the power to use the christian democratic. so dwight coalition and the new less capacity, but also celebrating their success on the next night. and they're looking to be part of the ruling coalition government. many of the display, the oppositions strong showing domestically increased the relationship between brussels and also i've got some analysis now from michelle barnowski, he's the managing director of the german marshall fund east. he joins me from the polish capital. warsaw, mister barnowski, welcome back to the day. now out of all the scenarios in play right now, what is the most likely outcome? who do you think will end up holding the reins of power in poland? and it's very clear that the exit, paul and the late paul points to the government farm by united just democratic
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composition of 4 parties and there, and probably the time and there's, there's shipped off donalds to us. we are still waiting for our final results. they will probably come on tuesday mid day, but so far the result was coming in, confirm yesterday's exit polls pointing to a position when each selection. so this is a huge strength of we're looking at what does it mean for poland domestically and internationally. of course as well. absolutely, this is really an unexpectedly high victory, a large victory for, for the opposition and also incredibly high turn out 10 percent higher than during our 1989 election. this was truly circle election. it will, we, we may call it any to whether we make colleagues place. you know, one of the key differences will be points,
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relations with its neighbors. both germany, ukraine, to some extent, also france. and perhaps more importantly, the way the poland is looking to brussels, the way that poland engages in europe in union. that so far over the last few years has been much more of a negative obstructionist view. now it's going to be constructed even it's not do the same as the many other views. it will be constructed, voice in europe in the banks, will poland automatically be able to return to the folder? is there some work to be done as well? if it's up to our allies in partners, i think most of the eh, capital sweetie, breathes a sigh of relief or tomorrow we'll, we'll do that. and i think that the work will require both sides. warsaw and our allies and, and partners. the sooner that we can think through new agenda for
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a bilateral relations and farm throeder of foreign policy, the sooner that paul ej will be able to really play the role needs to play far the changes in betterment of your opinions. you already mentioned the historic turn out a little earlier, even higher then in 1989. what do you think motivated people to go to the polls? the 1st of all, let me say it was, it's huge. you could feel it on the street. you could feel it in uh, in the uh, in when people are where voting last. the polls closed at night pm, but some people had to stay in the line until 3. yeah. there were so many people willing to about why such a huge turn out that it was your dad's. this was actually started collection. that's why i'm thinking the it was breeding to close to call before effect. so both
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sides are all sides of the political spectrum. we're motivated to. ready to come out and it was clear that the states are very hard, really across the board because for both sides larger the let's put it as the government side in the opposition side. it was clear that what state is vision of paul is pulling a place in europe and poland domestic politics, which obviously are hugely determined by the outcome of yesterday's vote. yeah. now the largest is party won't like winning the election, but being kept out of power. do you think there is a scenario where they could refuse to accept the results or no, i don't. i don't think there is any way for, for anyone to question the results. there is a very strong legitimacy of this about partially also because of the turn out to be that we talked about paul and collecting many on our uh, wisdom european democracies or democracies really across the world. uh,
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it's not enough to just have the most of the votes. you have to have the majority. very often you have to form cause issues and even the exit polls dense if the results are similar, then low. and just as it just will not have the ability to form enough white color sion to keep the government, it will be the opposition that is able to gather not only majority, but actually a strong majority. yeah. perhaps a majority that will able to keep this government in color for the full 4 years. there we go. far enough key of the german marshal fund east on the election results in poland. thank you so much for your insights. thank you very much. i another time we'll be back tomorrow with more from all of us here on the day. thank you so much for spending part of your day by the
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