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i press statement, vice us president joe biden and is really president benjamin netanyahu bite and had just met they will come in at that and uh, is around that. so a bit more about this is trying to was honestly, did i use a middle east unless funny, you've listening to what they've said? a pretty slim statement that from by now would say, what do you think of what we're seeing, the same message coming again. and again, we have to remember, this is also working for the benefits of both leaders. they want to benefit another pelp, the politics behind that for, for barton, in the, in the states. this is, after all an election, you're coming in to us. and that's an elf course trying to restate his position. is mr. defense the protector of israel, which was his wish to be, you know, his legacy at the end of as a rain and as well. what we do see from by repeatedly again and again. and he said he, he mentioned it again now is not only talking about the fatality, the water,
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the hor, but also the need to find other solutions in to get peace. and here he repeated several times at the israel was ground. the, you know, bait was grounded up on the principles of freedom, justice, and peace. you repeated twice, mentioning he would expect israel to find its way to peace at the end of all of this bloodshed that we're seeing the crisis. and we're seeing the horrors that we've been seeing in the last 1012 days now from both sides. unfortunately. so how, how important is this visit at this particular time for israel by us pretty well, it's unprecedented. we've never had an annual, at least, really has never seen an american president on ground in israel before doing such, you know, active a war happening. it's interesting to notice that there's been hardly any attacks on israel during this time during the hours before the visit and now a biden's or to their for to to it has always,
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this is the quietest day. he's realizing since october 7th, i believe it's probably not a coincidence. it's hard to tell. but maybe it shows some signs of american leverage still through the categories may be on homeless and so on. and it's also quite meaningful in the sense that a spider does not fully trust netanyahu. you wants to be there to make sure that while the support is giving while there are 2 carriers american carriers in the middle east stores, they want to make sure that he's giving humanitarian aspects very good of weight in his decision making. and he wants to make sure that the mater it's in his cabinet and his work cabinets that were brought in are also there. he wants to make sure that the plan is real plans, as well as making for garza in the near future in a long future. are sustainable and are aligned with his bigger strategy for the whole region and which then connects to saudi arabia yvonne until on. and of course,
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his visit comes on the day if you will, of those, these horrible bloss in the end because of that. and then hit the hospital, the correct is what it says. it is not responsible for this for this last. did joe biden boxes as well? yes, he seemed to be fully convinced by the evidence, but to present it to him by is really ideas of, you know, it's also something they've been releasing to the world to the, to the press in the world. they have some recordings of, of, in or in that they were into, intercepted between in their forces in gaza. claiming the idea of claims if, as a proof that they are aware of the fact that this was a mis a miss. charlene and they made a sort of an accident that happened to uh, as long as g hottest militants in gaza. biden was clear in saying he believes to be convinced, but according to what is just that this is the fault of the other side. as he said,
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it himself was also seeing also referring to it's his own evidence. it is there, i don't think there's american evidence. it could be connected similar to intelligence though i don't know have but, but, but that but, but mostly based on what he was given by the israelis. that seems to be a convincing enough for him. we've also seen the british for a ford minister releasing a speaking to falling in this line. we always do to remember, you know, the idea of stretching, you know, into a no longer war, had needed some time in order to substantiate the, the fact that the, their claim is a, they know that this is not as real as fault because they also want to maintain their credibility for the long run as we will be seeing more and more unfortunate accident and no incidents happening in garza more than we've just no seen so far in the last 12 days. as long as the middle east analysts thank you very much. you're welcome and by the appeared as we have mentioned, it's to accept is really
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a kind of what happened at the guys all spittle israel and some of us have tried the blame for the blah. so, so let's listen to a well joe biden, to save us, are deeply saddened in our age by the explosion i was hospitalized cause yesterday and based on what i've seen, it appears as though it was done by the other team. not, not you. but there's a lot of people out there, not sure. so we're gonna allow them to overcome a lot of things and prominence, benjamin netanyahu effect biden, for the steadfast support of the united states, for as well in the front crisis. i've seen your support every day. and the depth and breath of co operation that we have had since the beginning of this war, a level of cooperation that is truly unprecedented in the history of the great alliance between our 2 nations. we see that support and your steadfast commitment
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to provide as well with the tools we need to defend ourselves. we see that supports in the clear message, you send our enemies not to test our resolve. and then the 2 american carrier battle groups that you send to the region to back up those words with action. but above all, mister president, the world sees that support. and the more clarity that you have demonstrated from the moment israel was attacked at the 2 latest match just hours after that blas at the hospital and gaza, which was filled it with patients and people seeking shelter amongst a group that launched terrorist attacks on israel and governs gaza says and these really struck hit the hospital. a bump is well says that last came from a rocket, misfired by another police stadium, group islamic jihad and wounded
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survivors of the explosion that the ali hospital in gauze. a city which runs for to the nearby she for hospital or adult is doing the best with limited space resources to treat them. hundreds of people died in the last ali hospital where many palestinians had been seeking refuge in recent days, from the continuous showing by his ro deterrent organization, hama, explained israel for the attack. but the idea is denying responsibility. it was at the time that 6 59 pm. when the reports open that explosion is the highly in my dining custody to engulf the seats. according to our intelligence from us, check that we close on this to this wasn't just allow me just rocket that had misfired and decided to launch
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a global media campaign to hide what really happened. but the palestinian millison group is nomic jihad say. the i know behind the explosion, palestinians in the west bank. so blame israel for the hospital last couple days into protest in ramallah, just hours later. price to install a darcy with palestinians and goals that took place in jordan, lebanon, iraq, donasia came to the menu, spend a minute, we won't remain silent team. this is a message for all arrow, but non arab countries moves them or not. we will not be silent. we support the palestinian calls and we're against what's happening in gaza and the new see of the 3 of you have the the hospital explosion and say,
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prompted palestinian president mac mood, abbas to cancel his meeting in jordan with us president joe biden. he says he needs to be in his home 9th, during this big old you the as early minutes or it says it has confirmed that islamic jihad was responsible for the hospital explosion. i spoke to israel. defense forces spokesman lieutenant colonel pete a lot at austin. how are the idea of investigators could be so sure, so sued off to the blogs as well. we have the most a extensive high level investigation in the immediate ultimate, just off a certain o'clock yesterday to identify the root causes of this tragedy. and it is indeed a human tragedy. i can say that we mobilized intelligence capabilities, operational things up, an aerial footage of our own in order to confirm what we found. and what we establish was that the festival was no active idea. apple operations in that area,
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the area of the hospital not by air, land or sea. we identified the trajectory of the rockets launch from adjacent to the hospital, towards israel. many of them crossing over into his route, but one of them ultimately following inside the gods trip. also of the uh, in the parking lot of the hospital already all, it's all. and finally, we also our intelligence intercepted conversation between 2 of us terrorists that were discussing the rocket bit promising in this moment you had had launched and that didn't actually hit the hospital. so there are 3 to confirm what is the receipt that actually exemplify as an approved? that's a no proof that we did not do it. no, no. so when we're looking in the ultimate goal of this, the transfer to the in the hospital, we see that there are no crate of uh the, the,
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the damage is very limited, not risk representative of the type of strikes that we're con, probably conducting against from us in the causes written, and that was the lieutenant's l, v to learn it from the israeli defense forces, speaking to us. now let's get a more from the military expert marina miran, from the defense studies, the populace kings college and the marina. we just heard that idea of spokesman, very clearly refusing any is reading the responsibility for the hospital attack. what's your assessment of who is likely responsible for this on the scratch evidence that you've seen the day? well, it is difficult to say who is responsible. um, honestly, i don't know. these things can happen. it could have been collateral damage. it could have been a misfire. drop it, and the less we have more evidence. and that evidence would include an examination
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of the launch side, a verification of the evidence provided so far. there is no way to tell who would have done that. and we have seen that and you create as well. we're at 1st, it seems very clear in the attribution is very clear, but then later on, investigations show something else and there needs to be an independent investigation because this is a catastrophe. what has happened and those responsible need to be identified in terms of a strategy who benefits from this incident as well, in terms of benefits. let's look at the 1st of the idea and definitely for them. if, if we were to assume it was a pre mediated strike, it would be very damaging admin political terms. and we're seeing the full out being right now was president biden are visiting the region. and now the meeting between um ncc and the jordanian comes apart and the boss has been cancelled
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due to this. so for each rail it would definitely be very damaging. and if it was collateral damage, then it is a different story. and i'm now looking at the as a side for him off again, it might be reasonable for one of the groups operating in garza to conduct this right. but then, and the question is, what effect it has on the civilians and what effect it has on the support of the civilians. because at the end of the day, also these groups rely on the civil population in gaza. so in the, in the, in the media space, there will be some benefit. however, in the long term, um, it would have ramifications for the popularity of these groups in, in, in that particular area. have these groups provided any proof for their claims?
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well as of yet we don't have any prove or any evidence the public opinion assignments you had denied the allegations. stan, this is the primary suspect um, as we have heard before. so we have only um, partial evidence disclosed by one side which needs verification. um, and in order to increase the related reliability of this assessment, there needs to be more evidence from multiple sources. and of course, i can understand that for military reasons, it's also difficult to disclose all the evidence to suppress. so that is why i think that an independent investigation should be made. and i think here reason should be taking the driver seat. because right now we're all in motion. the only taken by this blast, but you need to get to the core of the problem to see what exactly happened there,
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maureen, i'm or on that from the defense studies department as teams, college alonda and thank you very much marine thank you. i'm off has so far i'm not allowed independent to investigate just onto the hospital grounds. i also w senior international correspondent funding for john tel aviv. how difficult it will be to establish an unbiased account of exactly what happened. a very good question and i really would like to stress that word independent because that's was really difficult by doing any warranty and any conflict, same in this situation, to really tell police what this happened independently for one, it's impossible for international journalist why any journalist in fact rather domestic here from these are all international journalist to verify those facts on the ground. and the journalist inside gaza strip a pretty much trust themselves, trying to make sure they did they, they protect their families and, and get to a safe harbor which is pretty much impossible at this point and go this trip. and
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since there's no access at this point to independent organizations or journal this 2nd independently verify what happened. you basically have 2 sides of the story. one of the claim, but use well that it was, if somebody jihad that many, 10 a group of rates with how much committees should fitted and be here, obviously from gaza strip the claim that it was ease route. in the meantime, obviously they've also heard, but the rest president, by dint has said he was a bit careful in expressing his view by saying if he or she didn't say it is, he said it appears for that or the other team painting. but by that that he wasn't as well about that. a lot of people obviously in the region, i'm sure this is exactly the dilemma and that is what he's facing right now as one of the key play as t a a is in this situation. that's regardless whether the version of the story is true or not. and let's assume may be true. who's going to believe them?
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so this level of trust that's being shaken very much in the region is really bringing the region to boarding point right now. and it just completely unclear regardless what the facts off rebuilding this particular incident, what the consequences are going to be from here on. now it's funny just 24 hours ago. it looked like a diplomatic window was opening at the end. the financing has that window. now, closed diplomacy is always ongoing and, and put it takes it even if it appears that 24 hours later. now everything seems to be completely uh, going out of control. one has to on the line that even though you as president biden is not going to meet in person. now, the head of the policy and authority, mr. a boss or to has all of jordan and egypt in a mind which was scheduled to take place tomorrow. you did uh reiterate that he is in close. got to be that will lead us to you all the stakeholders here, making sure that there is no further escalation, that the conflict is not widening. but this is exactly the question,
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the fuel message that may be sent to the road by the fact that president biden was only be able to talk to each row as promised. and that then, you know, what's really the message here to the region of the it was due on the line have a that is there is any possible breakthrough by the us putting us some influence of the on, on israel. some breakthrough in trying to deliver aids to people in gaza strip, making sure that that's close roof or border crossing reopens and, and it can get through that. this may result in some sort of, of the escalation. also, it may be possible that they can somehow influence that this is expected a ground defense. it may not be as big as maybe it has been plan after all, it's been delayed now for, for many days since it wasn't, gosh, initially i talked about a lot of question marks they for, and it's just on see how things are going to go on and exactly what the impact of us presidents, 5 and visit is going to have here in israel and in the region as
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a whole the see the, it's a national correspondent, funny such all the intel to be for us. thank you. funny. a german shots that will have shelters in egypt and says, germany wants to support egypt mediation efforts and helped to deescalate following almost turbo tax on is well. john slide shows empty egyptian president of up the cc, discussed the human to terry and situation in gaza. the chancellor traveled to cairo following a visit to tell of the way he expressed germany sort of directly with his around that's listening to a want sold set of the joint press conference with the exception president call run . i'm a split the mines them together. we are working on humanitarian access to gaza as soon as possible. and people there are in need of water, food, and medication. i can assure you, at this point, we will not leave the people alone. the german government will continue. it's humanitarian efforts for god's a to is the suffering of the civilian population. the german charles that
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has reiterated it is right to defend itself. i spoke to journalists, but here i mean in cairo, and also with the egypt degrees. it has in general, not contradicts the gods, but the difference in what egypt has reiterated in the cycle of violence is it is or it has gone beyond its right to defend itself into collective punishments. and so that includes israel targeting civilians targeting has to sort of fees the 5 thing, 2400000 people of the essential needs and to the fluid water, electricity, and fuel. now the shows was expected to push for the roof of crossing the only border crossing between garza and egypt to be reopened. has there been any progress on that? and so we were expecting that there's the same level of the same line of communication that happened between cairo and of european be there. and we did get that for the fatality theory. attributes commitment to keeping it open so they have
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never chose that on egypt. and side, but that is really weird strikes. i'll send you and border post to forward. it has force, it's closure at this point, hundreds of trucks full of either city. we think on the addiction side of the border pressure for them to be about in is reaching a krishanda. but with addiction the there's really 3 things to see or strikes. and there's a working on it, there's studies and everything with you. and what is your address allies that doesn't seem to be focused? um, do you mind if area workers outside of the ladies still don't have any kind of times? i know several international leaders have no visited egypt asking for what's intervention and what role does car we'll hope to play here. so kyra has been buried here. um during the friend violence on it's role, which can be think which can be thought of in 3 ways. first and maintains its historical role as a key mediator between 0 and um urgent restraints pushing the pharmacy and by doing work either to a p summit next saturday seconds, it sees itself as a guarantor of some kind of hearing aids,
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the least reading it as such. it is valid to secure a through the crossing again, the only passage and then also scouts the north central. right is there is you just for administer and said yesterday that once the crossing is safe, she monetary and medical cases will be allowed. and you just, sir, isn't the most telling parts of cds speech today and has cairo positioning itself in refusing to have miss larger numbers of refugees as the champion of palestinian statehood and the keeper of regional. he warned that the danger the course of the basement of god, the godsa instead, egypt would, would create the forces stations of the west bank and some jordan and bringing to enter the gold out of city and state. but he also said that a mass exodus into sign i would make the peninsula a new base for arms operations against israel, which would cause the regions most from defense in peace treaty between egypt and israel to fall apart. now is looking at public opinion and then in egypt and also how politics might be influenced. how has the hospital last and gaza effected the efforts of diplomatic intervention?
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i'm on the humanitarian front of that. definitely. i'm to pressure um, do you want to train situation in garza was already a couple strong with every must have lost a place that gets pushed further over the edge victims from last the last night, for example, were transferred to another hospital that was already hosting some 30000 displays people, the commodity we've seen that i'm in the mid meeting was canceled by that has problems to be in contact with air beaters who is going to meet there. but there is no further information on what that will actually look like in terms of public opinion. it's remains the same in egypt, there's a, there's this course i'm changing workers and civil society that we do have an obligation to both last 8 and then let those in need to be treated in addiction, hospitalized but not supported supports the spacing of protestants. here i remind me of why is egypt not the opening of a roof are crossing back into both directions?
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are you um, so 1st of all there was um, an agreements earlier this week fell through between each of us and israel because egypt refused to last for national out food offer if age was not allowed and, and now we're seeing this especially for the and p c h q one again to the danger of doesn't seem to face them to egypt would therefore lead to the seasons of the west bank palestinians into jordan. custom, in present, what are best was also worn because those facing are people the next site? 1948 the master space and i'm syrians and the creation of the state of israel. it's also know, try to know that most of the population of cars that are refugees who are driven from their homes in 1948 and then so there is the fear that one's palestinians, peter homes in search of safety. those homes are gone forever. so she also said that, that proposed that proposed in the whole immense risk to the regions was from the
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bunch of peach tree c. as you said, he just was the 1st or say to recognize israel, nonsense, i'm tonight. but here, i mean the, in the cairo for us, thank you very much to so called a multiple cocktails. were thrown at a synagogue in central butler natalie on wednesday morning. jennifer place i to as yet unidentified people through to burning bottles, filled with some of the liquid at the synagogue incident is currently being investigated. the child support of charles has vowed to finance semitism on german solo, germany stepping up protection at jewish institutions across the country. even its responsibility to protect jewish life following the crimes of the nazi regime. now we cannot cross straight to w, correspond matthew moore, who is in front of that a synagogue in central building. not very far from our studios here. mfc. what can you tell us about this? a talk as you know, that's like god,
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the attack actually took place in the middle of the night. and it was this, this jersey community behind me that you can see here actually has a 24 hour protection. and the security guards, they, they saw the attack coming before the fire. no one was hot on the chase, the, the perpetrators. but the escaped on foot. and it really comes outside of the heights and feel in the city, especially among the jewish communities you invalid and, and in germany as a whole on his left, on the light, not god as the police were investigating the incident and the hours of this morning . a man came by and began to shouting unto his really inflammatory statements. he was been arrested by the police and has been investigated by the criminal police. i am the criminal police here in germany, but the, the community, if she can, this is not just a synagogue, it's a school, it's a kindergarten. and so there are children here during the day of speaking to people have been coming by to day. they say that they are terrified by the attack,
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but they see the not shocked by it because of the this is the current fee and tension that is that there isn't society the moment. and apparently there was another incident last night, police officers were shots out with fireworks in the central building. right? yeah, this is part of the, the, the broader response to the, to the, to the how much time to talk on the israel strikes or guys in the last 10 days is that we've seen protest in berlin pool posted in full test, retire in the city in the street where people angry at civilian deaths and last night the happen again in one part of the city and 20 police officers were injured according to the police union, with a group of men throwing stones bottles on fireworks at police. and they only want us to dispatch them with the use of walter kind of. but they, it just goes to show that there's visit that attends times in germany and, and the communities are feeling kind of a sense of exasperation, frustration,
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and i can go there. god, now master given germany's historic responsibility to was a jewish community following the hold of costa is a significant focusing on protecting jewish places off of worship and gathering is germany doing enough in this regard. so in fact, the senior politician came by to kind of show us all the diets in our support with the community and i put that through and she said unfortunately because of the the rising anti semitism in recent years, the communities endures. institutions probably dirty, more protection, you might be able to see behind me that the, the method, barricades, i'm going to talk about. so response to this attack, and it's probably going to be the same in the coming days. now all are short, as you say, the time is less will come about this attack and said it was a polled on yesterday while he was a nice real. he said the jewish life is a gift to germany and said it would be
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a response. his responsibility to protect jewish people in germany from a tax t w's. matthew, me all of that in berlin. thank you very much, matthew. are you watching the video and see us a quick reminder of all the top stories is, are as prime minister benjamin netanyahu. i spanked to you as president joe biden for the united states supports the israel button us. it's accept israel's version of planning for listing and militants for a deadly lost out of gaza hospital on tuesday. and officials to the gaza strip say hundreds of people were killed at the last as it goes all the way to a my says it is really striking bills. so, but israel says evidence shows misfire. kind of spinning and rocket was response germantown sort of shows his entire role for a meeting with the agents president up the font, the cc. you said germany wants to support agent efforts to de escalate. following
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