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the gentleman has been sent to the children to go to the in progress pop calls to everyone who wants to know more about this topic. that concerned about this story is beyond the headline world in progress, dw, talk because you're watching the w and use age of coming up today. china is political and economic future president cheap ones, other nations against the counseling as he opens the building the road for him and welcomes russians. vladimir putin being indicted full for crimes plus the fight for equal rights in india. as the top court defines to legalize same sex marriage, there's wanting a big indian wedding. the white could be long. the
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thanks for joining us. i've been fizzle, and russian president vladimir putin in china is changing being have met in beijing . china is mounting the 10 cent of those for you if it's lost, built, and road infrastructure project put in the cold she, his via friend. the russian leader is guest of honor of the summit of a 130 heads of state and representatives of the loudly from the global south strongly. and she said the trust between china and russia keeps growing. let's go to badging correspondent, probably on christmas. this is post and his 1st trip to a major global palace and sponsored, we invited ukraine. there's an international warrant out against him, but china was never going to head him over to us already. of the no, it was obvious. he would not get the rest of the to you, but rather that the officials would roll out the red carpet. first of all,
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china does not recognize the international criminal court the so from a legal point of view, they can just ignore the warrant. but also the chinese government has so far not criticized russia for the one who crane. not even with one slippy. um, they didn't even named rest of the aggressive in this conflict, and they don't even call it the war. they call it ukraine cries. so that gives you an idea to what degree x the china has cited with russia. just how buddy, buddy, i see and potent coming down. yeah, quite. i mean, you can even argue that besides the political friendship is also a personal friendship. am that meeting for the 42nd time in the last decade, that is really record breaking. and when putting arrived here, there was a seating ping into putting that were shaking hands during the group for to of, of the bells and wrote for him him paging with all the head of states that were placed next to each eye. but also when they were giving speeches, they were sitting directly next to each other,
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so they are really very close. and i think you can argue that this some personal chemistry between those 2 head of states putting really needs customers when it comes to sound like it's all abroad, off the sections, but put on it. um. but what about the relationship from the other side way you what, how much does she need to? and it can only play and politically what russia is. um, china is biggest neva, they share bought of more than 4000 kilometers. so they have to get along already by that perspective, but of course, right. so that's also very important when it comes to a china energy secure it to you when it comes to supply of oil and the yeah. so also i would say the biggest aspect is that they are political allies. they both um, one to tenants, the western world order. they have the same a very similar political views when it comes to um yeah, the, the, they are against the west, so to speak. and so they share a lot of values,
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but when you ask how much this is teaching ping the protein, i would also argue how much this puts you need to see, i think a y square. so it's even more, i mean to the rest is clearly the junior partner, because china now has become economically much bigger in size. and you can also see it in terms of trait numbers. um, china has a lot of, you know, diversified traits globally. but for us, a really, um china is by far the biggest trade partner. so i would say the dependency is smart. the other way around. and ross is more if it of course, is costing a lot of lives and money. and this is all on the sidelines of this built in road initiative, which some countries have been pulling out. and she opened the floor and warning against the coupling. he does sound worried about chinese economic future of the well, i mean i'm, it's not to teaching things strength to, you know, publicly meant weaknesses or a self reflect. so i would say is rhetoric is still very confident,
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but you're right. i mean, uh, especially since a pandemic, the boat enrolled initiative or the new silicon road as it is often called has encountered a lot of problems. um, i mean the many states couldn't pay big their loans and um, they were deep and trip to what's the chinese that brought some problems. and also domestically actually, um, the building this and also the popularity among the people to spend billions and billions of tax payers money in the global global south while equity. the budgets here, um, it's also empty and you know, china face has its own economic problems. so that has really decreased the popularity of the both and wrote initiative. so what china is doing right now is the, basically it's transforming this both and wrote initiative. they want to make it less financially risky. they want to open it more also to, for investors also invest as of from the west. and i would say if you view this initiative holistically, then it would still call it to some degree of success. and you can see that also by the fact that um, for example, of the european union and also the g 7 nations,
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they're coming up with a ton of to, to compete with china. they start their own infrastructure projects and to build a south. so you can see that, um is it destiny? um, the notion that, you know, china is gaining a global influence and the west wants to come to that with their own model of investment l g, b, t, q activists in india, a valid to find on the supreme court has declined to legalize same sex marriage the judge has left the issue to parliament to the side of the government is opposed to any sort of gazing hits. the court also ruled, same sex couples, do not have the right to adopt children. still it, except that the states offer to set up a panel to consider rights like joint bank accounts and pension funds. they, they offer his whole lo will sit on the panel and weighs the timeline. here were some voices i had hoped before the judgment. i still have hope, after the judgment,
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that we will go in a direction where ultimately that i do come. of course, it wasn't in the judgement directly, but i do have hope in the country, the people, the laws that one day the day will come with it seems as matters is also allowed. obviously the government is not going to do anything for the 12 movement or the, you know, 12 folks is because the largest will the bang that votes for that in government is the very, you know, extreme is tend to like doing the boys in the government score and we have seen for decades, most government commit these big foot, and we joined by a petition in the case mario de pena. what went wrong? you were in court yesterday. are you benz or uh, having me on the uh, i was in called yesterday and i am one of the many petitioners in this case. it was
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disappointing judgement for the entire clear community here in india. essentially what seems to have happened is that the 5 judges completely abdicated, responsible, the for ensuring the rights off clear be both for ensuring marriage equality to the queer community. and they seemed to have said that it is the paradoxes of the bottom and to give buzz these rides if a dog. however, that was both majority judgment of 3 learned judges and minority judgment of 2 judges. the minority judgement suggested that perhaps not the marriage, but civil unions, but debate to go. the majority of judgment suggestive that while it was to put it
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all get to the bottom and to adjudicate on map does regarding the relationships between queer be bull. it was certainly not mandatory for bottom in to dig this up without mandate development without any pressure from the supreme court up on the bottom and uh, to uh, to bring in some kind of legislation that would deal with the aggregated realities of queer people in india. i don't see the prospect of any legislation, any magic quality or even civil unions has very bright just because there is no pressure. i wouldn't to remind us all of the transgender law that came about in india in 2019. and that came 5 years
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off to a supreme court directive to the government that a law of this kind must be an act. the government such indeed took its time with impacting the law. uh, not everybody was happy with that in the end. uh, but if those are the timelines that the government takes, when it comes to the queer community, i have a to talk about a fee and that meant of any kind of civil union law or of let alone manage equality. okay, mario, so i can jump in that i, you're saying that society is also not quite ready for this yet in india, or i'm not sure if society isn't ready for it. uh, throughout the game that with many boys done. and there was
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a very, has always been a widespread support. uh folks, we have people in india. but i do think that um, in the we that the queer community really came together and made a case with the indian people to d criminalize over 20 long yours. in the early, 2, thousands had the end of which we reached the true lives ations. finally, in 2018 to a supreme court judgement, the kind of work that we did, the hubs has not happened in the same way with marriage equality. i do think we have some way to go, but it is, it is a battle of hearts and minds at the end of the day. and i do think m b and b will
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be able to convince the indian people often need for our rights to be recognized. but i do have the same time. i would like to say that civil drives should really never be left to do a referendum off of how the majority of the community in any country feels like talking about in minority the research in d. r. and you know, if we were to leave civil rights constantly to majority of in willis, then we would really for shot of the kind of democratic ideals that we pride ourselves on in india. but having said that, i do think it is important to have those conversations with the indian, the bully,
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and i, i believe we can. and we'll do that at this conversation and this discussion is being held publicly. that's a great step forward. my opinion, thanks for talking to us today. i i paid for the was nice to have you along against, by the shift your guide to life in a ditch and to explore the latest online trend. navigate your way through the digital jungle. get a global perspective. we'll be your guide and show you what's possible. you decide what really matters to you. sit next
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