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the, the, you're watching to the news coming to live from berlin. joe biden explains his assessment that as well is not responsible for a hospital explosion in gaza, saying his comments are based on information shown to him by the us defense department 5 and also says israel has now agreed to allow a into gaza as soon as possible the policy and health authorities, as the blast at that hospital killed nearly 500 people from offices blamed, is really airstrikes. israel says a misfire rocket from another palestinian group cost the explosion.
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the clare richardson, welcome as anger flares over an explosion at a hospital and gaza. that's apparently killed. hundreds of people. president joe biden, who now said us data suggests to the is really military is not responsible. biting, says these bases remarks on information provided by the pentagon. wrapping up a visit to tel aviv and talks with prime minister benjamin netanyahu bite and warrant is really not to be consumed with a rage over the hum us terror attacks. he said, israel has also now agreed to allow aid into gaza. he added with united states to do everything. it could it to ensure israel is safe and worn to other countries who are not to launch attacks. ro, watson, of items plants to hold talks with the arab leaders and jordan have been cancelled
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in the aftermath of explosion. app because a hospital he also reiterated america's commitment to supporting as well as i told her 7th, which was sacred. due a sacred jewish holiday became a deadly stay for the jewish people. since the holocaust is brought to the surface . painful memories, the scars left by millennia of anti semitism, the genocide of the jewish people, the world watch, then. it new and the world did nothing. we will not stand by and do nothing again. not today, not tomorrow, not ever. as i'm joined in the studio now by dw use, middle east analyst shawnee, it rose on us. i saw that you had a chance to watch biden's comments in their entirety. what stood out to you. they're not. you seem personally very much touched at. you see, this is the moment that he feels that he really needs to be sort of the,
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the adult of the world. maybe, you know, bringing calm but also security and confidence with him and, and also let's keep in mind he's in israel, but his audience is mostly sitting in the us. we're in this this morning hours and he is soon entering election a very intense elections session. he's happy to have the moment to shine as the strong leader of showing to the world his position, but at the same time, also, no doubt, this is something pressing touching him. he is bringing news, you know, his, his main goal was to bring results and that is allowing a to come into cause a he sees the pressure, he knows it's important. and having had the agreement by these are the government to get 8 into gaza. that's a main goal that he had set for himself and he succeeded with that now by and also their stress that there was no higher priority for him than the return of hostages and were taken from israel. that must be welcome news for the families who are
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waiting for news that they're very latrice. you see the hostages, because this is a topic very much closer to biden's heart. he has spend a lot of time with the families and throughout the last 12 days. we don't know about anything concrete, but we do know it's probably somehow connected also to the humanitarian effort. and there is a great pressure on home, us to lout subject to interior and release of the children in the instance the, the elderly that are kept in in a garza so you mentioned bite and really calling for calm there. um, he had also a strong warning for hostile actors. they don't, don't, don't record. yeah. what do you make of those comments by then came to support as well, but also to, to show his as a know to help is, will show its strength. and this alliance, these trying to build, bite in this building alliance of democracy is receive also in what he does for you came, but he also what he's trying to do for the middle east. he was aiming also to meet with jordan, with egypt. he wants to build a moderate alliance and keep it as
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a force as like his bala, which is a proxy of iran. and if further down the line may be no greater a global powers that he, he really wants to make sure this, this does not escalate into a bigger world superpower on support for israel in these days. and is actually seen to have also succeeded in some way today because this has been the quiet stay, israel's since the beginning of the, of the fights for 12 days ago. very few rockets, a lot of come at relative come to a war zone up. probably still showing that the deterrence of american president is something not to be, you know, still not a road. it's still very strong. you mentioned to was meant to go on a 2nd leg of this trip to meet with the arab leaders that's been canceled. um what is that going to be in for his diplomatic efforts? well, he says, clearly he's still working on diplomatic solutions. he still wants to see he's mentioning to 2 states solutions. this is something that for nathan now is not
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somebody he's happy to hear, but for provide and also one of the reasons he's coming is important. he's talking about making a difference between him, off and goss. i'm bringing him to the idea of an end game of his vision for the good days that will come and not just the war and the shock of the heart of the strikes. now israel and he seems to be very determined to go on despite the fact you had to cancel the regional assignment that was planned. thank you so much . i really appreciate your analysis. american now clauses come off run health ministries as $471.00. people were killed in the explosion, which it called and is really massacre. is also is evident, shows of rocket misfired by palestinian militants, is responsible. neither claim has been independently verified. this is where the sick are supposed to be healed. instead of the
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arab hospital in gauze, the city has become the latest casualty. in a conflict, it's costing so many lives. hundreds died in this attack. here we were just sitting here and suddenly there was an explosion. the big law shot dead on us. many people look is many of those coal top in the last, what palestinians who'd been seeking refuge haven't mccadney, literally since the display, as well as a safe haven for women. and children who fled is rarely selling near the hospital. the not bubble on the oven, like i saw this place as a refuge for them to feel safe and secure. not a young brother most. there was no advanced warning before targeting the hospital for them, however, they sent us a lot. there were more than 3000 people you can have in my room. displeased was
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a safe haven. the terrorist group home us, which rules garza lamed israel for the attack. and she is route protests have been held across the palestinian territories, including in the city of ramallah, in the west bank, you know, craters these are that could be as really all me says it has proved the attacker was carried out by another palestinian militant group is law make jihad and that israel is being on sadly blamed air to ground meeting. it was at the time that 6 59 pm. when the reports opened the explosion at the honey in my dining hosp, the gods i see 2 according to our intelligence from us, check the reports on this to this wasn't his stomach judge rocket that had misfired and decided to launch a global media campaign to hide what really happened dawson,
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meanwhile, on left to pick up the pieces from the night before? no. do you have his washington bureau chief in his pole has been following biden's visits from the us capital even as the white houses that ahead of this trip invited was traveling to tell of you with hard questions for the is really prime minister this visit though in some ways look more like a pat on the back from the us present, then a real interrogation. um, what are your thoughts there? yeah, well, you know, us policy has always been to support israel regardless, regardless which party actually is in the lead. so, and also the us doesn't recognize the state of palestine just to give a little bit of a context here. this trip is meant to ensure that the state of israel is still supported by the us government and the administration. it would be a complete $184.00 united states president to really start interrogate the israeli
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government. yeah, and it's also interesting that bite and, and that in yahoo are known to have something of a rocky relationship themselves. is that going to put a limit on what biden is able to achieve their on his diplomatic mission as well? by doing this, many western leaders actually is trying to thread the needle in the us response to israel, a military campaign. the democrats, this is vitamins policy, are really divided over the israeli offense and gaza, especially after the hospitals tried yesterday, which killed hundreds of innocent people as you just mentioned. and in this regard, it is really important to bite and said that israel would not be behind, but definitely the last, according to information he of the u. s. president is receiving. but, you know, as we just heard in his speech,
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he underlined the commitment to standards is right in saying you are not alone. but you also talked about the mistakes you estimate of to the $911.00. this is an analogy which is actually often used these days. he aust, israel notes to be consumed by rage and follow the rule of law. yeah, i think it's fair to say that the united states influence in the region has been massively diminished in the wake of 911 and its subsequent war on terrorism. how much can abide and realistically hope to achieve with this visit to thank as well as the president biden. uh, there are limits to what you can do. the us itself doesn't have an appetite to try and controlled parts of the middle east, like it did during the early years of the bush administration by then, who asked me effectively elected withdrawal from of gone this dawn, which we know had it's slow. it has no interesting in being involved in another war,
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in the days of the us military hawks actually seemed really to be in the past. and even within the republican policy, we see trends towards more nation, this nationalistic tendency. so the role by it and, and the u. s. placement region, it does seem to be really changing. he wants to be rob, or someone who is able to help catering a piece deal and being actively involved in another war. thank you so much for that . those data, these washington bureau chief in this paul and i'd like to bring in shayna low, a spokesperson for the norwegian refugee council. say not hundreds of people are believed to have died in the explosion at the uh, the hospital in gaza city. what else can you tell us about the casualties there? i don't have much more information than what's already been reported. i do know
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that the people that were there were people who are seeking shelter. there's no safe place in gaza. people often go to medical centers, hospitals, un facilities thinking that that will be a safe place. so many of the people there that were killed were just ordinary civilians trying to find a safe place to stay with their families to be protected from the onslaught. because we've seen that despite the israel telling people that they needed to leave from the north austin, to bleed up, the south would be safer. we're seeing that the central and south of garza as well are not safe. so that's why people are going to hospitals and you when facilities thinking that that will provide them with some degree of protection. as soon as you and i have spoken to before, can you give me an update now on, on what you're hearing from your organization, staff and gaza at this point? so i'm in contact with my staff as regularly as i can be over the last few days.
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connectivity has been an issue. there's limited regular mobile cell service. there's limited internet. so really we're trying to check in as much as we can through as a mask. um through what app when it's available, but it's really, really challenging to get updates from the ground. what i can hearing from san eunice where, where one of my colleagues is, is that it's just chaos and panic. i can see on the screen that you're showing people struggling to get bread. i've heard about these long bread lines. people are fighting over just small amounts of food. there's limited water, it's not potable. we're also hearing about shortages in medicine. doctors that borders reported that they have surgeons operating on people without pain killers or anesthetics because they just aren't supplies. the situation in garza, it's getting more and more dire. our colleagues are losing hope, as they feel like they can't go on much longer. that's what they're telling me,
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that it's just too difficult and they don't, all they want is a ceasefire. all they want is even if it's just 24 hours for them to collect their things, barry, the dead, find food, find resources, get aid in the situation. really is quite desperate for medical workers. there's even another challenge. um we've been hearing urgent calls earlier this week that hospitals are running out of fuel to run emergency generators. um are we already starting to see that happen at this point? i'm, i can't speak to the specifics of what type of fuel hospitals have. i do know that they've been warning all week. that applies are quickly dwindling. it's not surprising to hear that, considering that no aid has been eat or anything has been able to come in together since october 7th, because the strip is a place but has that has very few. a supply it's
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supplies in stock. they are dependent on, on, on things coming in through crossings on a weekly basis. there isn't that much stockpiled in terms of fuel or other things to, to supply generators and other things that are needed when, when there's no electricity and no water coming in. we have the news today, the israel has said that humanity an aid can be made available in a humanitarian zone in southern gaza. does that? does that gives you hope that there will be a clear road map to achieving not what we need is not only for there to be safe zones, but we need assurance. is that for people that can't access those safe zones, or choose not to go to the safe zone. that there's the safety for humanitarians to access all throughout garza to be able to distribute aid and reach people who are in need. people also are going to be able to need to go to distribution centers to access 8. and so what we really need are assurances that there will be safety for
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all for, for all people seeking need. and it can't just be restricted only to be safe zones . we need humanitarian pauses in which aid can be collected and distributed accordingly. shayna low from the norwegian refugee council. thank you. as always for taking the time to speak with us on dw. thank you. and i'm joined now by military analyst mike martin from kings college london. hi um, we know military's israel's military, as it denied getting that hospital in gaza city, is there a way for researchers to find out whether that is true? suddenly if, if you look at social media at the moment, there are a number of, of videos of the strike and photos post strike. and what research is can look at is for instance, the angle that any objects fell into the grounds. they can also look at
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a can see on your screen the bloss radius of the impact. and they can look at things like trajectory unbuttoned box. and with all of this material is actually possible to determine whether it is you know, misled rockets of these really say whether it is a missile strike or even an ad results munition. and that will take some time and people won't want to immediately come out with the answer. they want to be quite sure, but it is possible to determine what type of strike it was, how several arrow countries have already come up with an answer and blamed israel. do you think that they would have done that without having intelligence pointing in the direction of israel, which is very confusing and you know, you've heard of the phrase, the fog of war and nobody at the point that this happens, including these values,
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all the palestinians will have known exactly what caused the missile strike, and as i've just laid out, it takes some time to determine a post facts. what has happened. so the time that there was claim and counts a claim going on. neither side knew for sure what it was that had occurred. let's look at implications of this terrible attack of this explosion. how do you expect this to affect the course of the conflict going forward? what will the repercussions be? that's what we've already seen. a number of repercussions today with our latest pulling out sold meetings with the president biden. but i think going forwards, actually this has a huge the narrow it, no matter who it is. that ends up being, you know, the, it gets pinned on. this is usually narrow the scope, i think for is rails future activities. i think a number
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a indeed all of the our countries are now cooling for. i stopped the conflict and pressure will grow amongst as well as allies like the united states and europe as well. for the conflicts that come to the end. so i, i actually think that this ground invasion that these riley's have been talking about since that terrible soft today. i think that's is now there was a question over whether that will go ahead in the face. ready that people think it will have done. thank you so much for your analysis. that is my martin from kings college london. thank you. so now the carnage that we've seen at that cause a hospital has inflamed emotions. in many parts of the world, protests interrupted across the middle east and world leaders are calling for accountability. the fusion with the explosion of the only other possibilities in 1000 products are taking place in libya and humans and dig around. among others,
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all of our demands are addressed to era leaders, not to the west. we don't want half of solutions or half speeches like condemned. we do now. we are asking them to break off relations with a zionist animal all the other will. so he will define this thing and people did not commit to crime. they don't want anything. it's feared. who is a mist militant group home us claims the hospital was hit by end is rarely strike is ramsey. he's a did not carry out an attack on the hospital. it sees a rock, it was misfired, but another palestinian group is i'll meet you held loosely as the blame game goes on the those around the world a condemning the blast for $45.00. by the 100 is what people do. it's all holy hospital. these same day you guys by us that i, that i strongly condemned. earlier today, i called for an immediate,
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too many tendencies fires. there is no excuse for hitting a hospital full of civilians. all effects need to be established and those responsible must be held accountable us and this tragic our we must always double our efforts to protect civilians from the fury of this war. many people around the world wants those civilians to be protected. the hospital last is also sputtering demonstrations fall from the middle east, including in the united states, in columbia. and in the philippines or brussels, corresponding band regard, spoke to israel's and bastard to the you and nato, a raggedy. and he asked him whether israel was doing enough to protect civilians in the gaza strip. what i'm saying is, 1st of all, we need to look how it started. how must provoke
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a war. that trust of these did they conduct can not before get in and cannot be they've, you know, be an excuse for that. he's run, he's acting according to the national, non human in town. know, these are all these, they will, this war is not against the policy and people is not against is really honest, is not against the man woman that they're not involved. it's only against a mass activities in theories. so we do own, in our power to avoid, to avoid harming on involved people and civilian. nevertheless, the european union says visit or radiation and tearing treasures in gaza because the 2000000 people are deprived of both of food and so on. and the you've been out since if it's possible, as you military in age a to gather strip. so what can easily do to avoid that? we are not, i'm not aware of any humanitarian crisis. we are monitoring the situation. there is no you mind to and crosses the movements of people is because we do not wants to
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harm any on involve civilian. this why is read out of the army and defense establishment called the population to move from areas that make some that they do it, they might be homes. so again, the purpose of these warning that we will not harm any of people that are not involved. unfortunately, they come us use those people as a human shields. they do not have, they do not care for the population like the incident that we saw yesterday at the hospital with some us fire, a real good, the heat or stomach, the heat, the hospital they, they, they fire eat from it will pull out area versus we don't live in any to they, he did their own or speaker, and they caused the deaths of hundreds of people. this is the way they, they act and they don't care for them. yesterday was a sick, stressful day because they succeed to says the story that is really these home and
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people and put pressure on ease, right. but we have this phone evidence that it was done by hamas and islamic jihad . but i'm not saying that is a lab tech at the hospital, it into european union, for example. the head of the commission was with fund the line also said the effects have to be established. i mean, of course you are the embezzlement. visa, you tell your story, i must have the other story. so what show the public to know he's the only one story fact and we have a clear rate quotes from us terrorist activities. and we have a clip of footage video of these through ok. so there is no question mark about that. there is no doubt about that. and it's about time, i'm not really certain you, i'm just saying that i think that it's about time to listen. i'm calling you are open and, and everybody watching us, it's about time to believe and distrust is right, official statement and not terrible. then these vision statement, but we have the proof. it's, there is no question mark on that. the you says also that is sort of course has the
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right to self defense and that the ground offensive will come in the next days maybe. or you're not afraid that there will be more pictures of maybe killed civilians and gaza, that then will the temp of the, the image of the cause of israel around the road. we are north now looking into image. we are looking into what's happening and how to solve the problem in as long as how much is there? the problem we stave wherever we are fighting. the war of these are our 1st and foremost, but these, this is also the fight for the police. danielle, because as long as commodities there, they will not have any future. so we, i'm not going into the author action or the total for what we plan and what we are not planning, but europe and they will need to us to understand. what is this fight about? so that was a reporter speaking to as well as in boss or to you and nato. hi, rebecca. and that is your news update at this hour. don't forget, you can always get more on our website that d w dot com. i'm clear, richardson,
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