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the the, the state of the news line from berlin, the palestinian health authority says an explosion at a hospital in gaza. city, a skilled, nearly 500 people, a mazda lanes, and is really air strikes, israel, and the us say, the evidence points to a rocket misfired 5. how standing and military also coming on. you as president joe biden, wraps up a visit to tell a beef with agreement from israel, that it will allow limited humanitarian aid into gaza for each of the
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on the call. for least welcome to the program. because as how mos run health ministry says 471 people were killed in an explosion at a hospital. and the territory of moss is blaming and is really air strikes. israel and the us presidential bind both say a rocket misfired by palestinian militants was responsible for now. there has been no independent verification of either claim. this is where the sick all supposed to be healed. instead of the arab hospital in guns, the city has become the latest casualty. in a conflict, it's costing so many lives. hundreds died in this attack. if you were,
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you would just sitting here and suddenly there was an explosion last shot dead on us. many people who look is many of those cool chopping up last, what palestinians who'd been seeking refuge haven't looked at the ledger section on the lease was a safe haven for women. and children who fled is rarely selling near the hospital bubble on the market. they saw this place as a refuge for them to feel safe and secure. not a young brother most, there was no advance warning before targeting and the hospital for them. however, you sent us a lot. there were more than 3000 people you can have in my bathroom display as was a safe haven. the terrorist group. hum us which rules garza lamed israel for the attack. and she is, well, protests have been held across the palestinian territories, including in the city of ramallah,
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in the westbank no craters. these are that could be as riley army says, it has proved the attack was carried out by another palestinian militant group is law make jihad and that israel is being unfairly blamed air to ground meeting. it was at the time that 6 59 pm when the reports opened the explosion is the honey in my dining possibly to go to see to according to our intelligence from us check, the recalls on this to this wasn't islam. it just broke it that had misfired and decided to launch a global media campaign to hide what really happened. dawson's meanwhile, on left to pick up the pieces from the night before. knowing this conflict is fall from ofa. security analysts just in crown from the
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risk advisory company, civil line joins me now from london. justin, good to see you again. conflicting claims over the blast at the hospital in gaza city. what do you make of the situation the while as you say, i mean, is this tragic situation. there is a sudden amount of confusion as ever, on the battlefield and on this sort of environment, in terms of allocation blame. and in previous and this is a happening cause or sometimes 2nd year as in paul causes that themselves is now for investigators finally to work out what's happening cause there's no investigators on the ground. now looking at this and the is ready story, those son, he does have a lot of evidence, a lot of merit tobacco. so it's uh, there was nothing here. okay. it was just for the reserve at the hospital at the time. um and the boss everything else, every expert i've spoken to fails, the does support the sort of sized broker that was talked about from policy is not my job. but the real point i think, is an in some of this tragic
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a course and the way in which has been viewed and seen the scenes we've seen all through it in part. so the middle east, the evident anger in many parts of the world are the only thing that's gonna change whatever the assessment subsequently is. this will be impossible to know. probably . yeah. use presidential by me to high stakes as a, to israel, to show support, but also to de escalate to using. he succeeded in doing that. a real blow, i think for barton's visit was the fact that he can visit the passing lives as the arb agency refused to see and enjoy. um, so we didn't see the full benefit of the diplomatic effort. there was long to take . it is amazing to see the president united states blowing into an active. it was a um to lead on diplomacy. and i think that was a very bold move. and very important, i'm the clear for us has been we support as well, but the very strong message, the as well kind of forget the suffering, the palestinian people in this. and it's new, good fighting a war against time, us and forgetting about the policy and using selves on actually delivering. so how
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much will they sort to achieve, which is the victimization of people of gaza and increase 9 go against israel? so, i mean, i message very strong. the effort towards humanitarian so cool, very clear. we're waiting now to see does it good for a problem? because on the ground in ghost at the 5 and called on the israel government to not route repeat the mistakes the us made in the wake of 911. and you hinted at it there, what would be the biggest mistake israel could make? is it really the sustained civilian suffering in the gaza strip? yeah, this is what we call the central gravity for his rails or a foot ready. and i think there was a fight is recognize this exactly the same way it off 911. will be failed to recognize what i will call it a head. so to achieve at the attack in the united states, which was to suck the us into a winnable complex that created more enemies than the us could deal with. and this
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is obviously pretty much exactly what i'm asked to sort to achieve so that the voice is very opposite and it comes from a nation that's been the, it's a nation that has gone through this and is recognize that you call and just tackle a problem like this was an issue for us, however, buttons for the wall. and however, angry upset and justifiably terrified your population is you need to box clever. you need to think more widely and not do what you're after 3 wants you to do it. i think night is the very strong message being delivered and hopefully that, that land time. yeah. israel's, as it plans to destroy us, given everything that you just laid out, is that an attainable goal? not just purely, militarily. i was a very small cold in a very large machine and the school was a good word to her the time. and it was very clear, the amenities solution, learn when look to feed terrorism. you need a comprehensive approach. the, the war is one part of it, but the other tools around is the diplomacy, the thinking that you might interrogate the approach. the problem is what makes it
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somebody you can alternately manage and it's been like a warm crime or anything else. you never get rid of it, you have to actually control it, manage it, and when support. so it's inherently a war i'm at the moment just to destroy. i'm asked us a simple statement that's going to be difficult to do. i think with any pollution, i always rather approaches it underneath pollution about more and which may or may not affect how operation on the ground are conducted. i think certainly affects how the palestinians on looks often the degree of international support that comes into the pool population. and causes the tracking list just in chrome from civil line, always. great speaking to you. thank you so much. i a joe biden has wrapped up a visit to tel aviv with agreement from israel, that it will allow limited humanitarian a to enter gaza from egypt. the israeli government says supplies can get to civilians in the south of gaza, provided they do not reach from us abiding, offered unconditional backend for israel and said he would be asking congress for
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what he called, unprecedented support for israel. an innocent fellow staying in civilian even before landing in tel aviv go biden's visit was offended by events in gaza. he was there to show his unwavering support for israel and to persuade lead is to minimize the humanitarian catastrophe box. he emphasized that he had israel's back are deeply set in an outrage by the explosion of the hospital and cause of yesterday. and based on what i've seen, it appears as though it was done by the other team. i q prime minister benjamin netanyahu sang to buy it in full, the support. there's only one thing better than having a true friend, like you standing with it as well. and that is having and standing in israel. your visit here is the 1st visit of an american president and as well and
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a time of war bite and also appeared to have secured a deal to finally bring much needed humanitarian support to the people of gaza. to dash, these really cabinet i met with for some time this morning to create a delivery of life saving you mandatory assistance to civilians and gosh, patient and understanding that there will be inspections that the age should go to civilians not to him us. the president also announced $100000000.00 and assistance for the palestinians in gaza and the west bank a fight in strip was meant to calm the region about the blame game of a who bass responsibility for hundreds of deaths in a golf. the hospital has done the opposite. off of the explosion, jordan cooled off a plan summit with the us presidents in the mon leaving biden's diplomatic toll cut short. let's go to the w correspondence stuff in simon's in washington stuff. i'm
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sending humanitarian aid into gaza via egypt is a huge step forward. does that make find strip to israel today a success though? well, if you asked me yes, eh, and you know what? there was no other opportunity or chance for a bite. and if you wouldn't have gone to israel, that would have been really, really bad for him here domestically in the united states and going there despite what happened in gauze, in the hospital incident on this explosion there. and despite arab leaders and partners as a c, c in egypt or, or the king of jordan cancelling on him on or mountain with the boss of the palestinian authority. also catholic and him, it was at least the administration thoughts all the best way forward and $100000000.00 for whom to turn age to for taught students in gauze, off and west german and in the west bank is not a
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a bad stop. now i want to emphasize the nothing of there's none of these have to be negotiated by the president himself, at the day of the visit that was done before. that's why mister blink and secretary of state was there before. but it seemed to be, at least in the eyes of the administration necessary to go there and to throw staunch support behind israel. and from in this very narrow point of view, in this a narrow perspective, this was in the eyes of the binding it ministration. certainly a success this term by the n. yeah. who are known to have a fairly rocky relationship. are there any strings attached to us support for israel? i don't think so. and i don't think that any president puts a big basically afford any strings attached. of course, this administration makes or tries to make sure and to assure the public that they
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will do everything a to deliver who monitor in a to be influenced. these ryan is on, in, in, in a sense of, you know, exercising caution. military targets do what you have to do in gaza to or as you these railways claim route out. how much spot protect civilian and civilian life. that is, i think what the u. s. will do, but all the, any strings attached really to support really big support militarily, support munitions are and don't the rockets or other things know there are no strings attached. some analysts say that the us and the ones in the range and was diminished significantly by the war on terror in the wake of $911.00. and how much can the 5 minute ministration realistically hope to achieve when it comes to its efforts to avoid this conflict? from growing even even beyond the borders of cause on the israel. a short answer.
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yes. you're right. the u. s. has been in compared to how it was in the ninety's or in the beginning of the 2 thousands before 911. i'm pretty much upset. absent with an active, middle east policy or diplomacy, this scheme in the middle east of the us was occupied with $911.00 and the response of this war in iraq war and if can to stand and so on that isis remember, ices us, uh, put a lot of money and personnel on hunting down and finding our supporting groups who forced part were for were fighting isis far. um, now the us has even if they never disband that the idea of a 2 state solution for as well as the palestinians, they have to kind of get back to this. now also pointing out the u. s. has sent to strike navy's aircraft. carriers try grooves to the region, and that is for the sole purpose to warn iran slash this ball on lab and on to do anything, anything to escalate this conflict because it is not in the us and us things in
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anybody's interest to make this even bigger this conflict, this bad enough, make it a regional conflict or more that's really bad. the us doesn't want that sometimes reporting from washington. thanks for that. a protest as a rob did across the middle east over israel's bombing of the gaza strip. hundreds gathered in the egyptian capital cairo, they also demanded an end of the blockade, denying gauze our residence, access to food, water in power. thousands of supporters of the militant group has the law rarely been living on the group has engaged in border classes with is really forces since the last attacks by the heavy police presence protest also flared the jordanian capital a month was bringing policy. let me use the president of the middle east institute and joins us from washington, dc. good to see you yesterday. we also saw protests against the palestinian
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authority in the west bank. how wall tile is the situation there. duplicate of a situation in the west bank. the has been now worsening in the last uh, 910 days. there's been increasing violence there. there has been, uh about 60 palestinians killed largely from uh, from settler activity in the, in the west bank, a lot of palestinian protest, of course. uh uh and blaming the palestinian authority for not speaking out forcefully for basically being very weak in this situation. i think the situation on the west bank is serious but is not as dangerous as serious as it might be across the news is randy border where you have a big military force which is has by law, which conceivably could join a conflict in the, in the future, what can realistically be done to prevent that from happening, or what i think the strategy uh, i mean, i think in a way as your previous uh,
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quarter before the journalist was talking to be attacked by him as which most likely was coordinator. and he's shared in terms of information. what does the butler enhance with the goods force of the rod was designed to provoke a very large it's rate of reaction. and so, so far in a way you could say things are going according to plan for how madison has a bela they're drawing here is really into a major operation in gaza. they're drawing it into a land invasion, which probably by their assessment is, is an invasion that israel cannot win decisively as so we're still in the territory . we're probably how much and has about left field things are going according to plan. the in such a case, i don't think has the bella and you, ron would need to open a 2nd front. i think they will wait developments to unfold in gaza and there's both the military and the political tract politically already. how may i ask them?
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because by law, i've been able to begin shifting era public opinion in a certain direction, against normalization, against, you know, the brand mccord's and all of that. so politically, it's already paying dividends and sympathy for the bad as soon as a militarily the, the, the, the battle has not yet started. now, now a lot of concern um, or seeing about the guys and civilians caught in the middle of the fighting. the currently trapped in the besieged cause a strip, both egypt and jordan refused to take in palestinians from gaza. why is that too? well, because both, i mean, the palestinians themselves are aware that in previous explosions, the palestinians reflect the georgia and palace into flat, the lebanon. where there was a 1948 or 1956 or 1967. we're never allowed to return to their homes or villages. so this is a very ex, the existential moment for palestinians. and guys that many of whom are already
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refugees, from their original towns and villages and pre 1948 palestine. so wild, yes, they want to save haven. they would like to save. at the same time, they are very aware if they leave their homes and townsend guys, uh they will not be allowed back in. similarly, egypt and jordan. first of all, out of let's say, understanding or respect for that palestinian and general positions that they don't want to be exiled from their country again at both egypt and jordan don't want to, you know, to be saddled or to be, you know, have a whole of exposure and again, fellow students, and then your data have to deal with them themselves. so it's a more profound issue about the future of the palestinians, or the absence of a 2 state solution. the absence of any positive pathway means the only option is expelled, expelling more palestinians, which is not a solution. it might be
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a hard question to answer at this point, but israel is bound to crush them off if and when that happens. what is the plan for gaza is exactly, well that's a very, very big question that nobody has a very clear answer to. obviously, before that, you know, the big question is, can they do that? they can certainly harm them, they can hurt them, they can degrade their capacity is short of a complete invasion and complete occupation of gaza in a short of that. i don't think they will defeat him as so. but even if they do have a complete occupation and they defeat thomas, and then there is the question of the day after now, israel doesn't want to be stuck again, you know, having to manage an occupied 2200000 palestinians and an extended occupation that will be very difficult to sustain, and frankly, no other power or authority is likely to want to shoulder that burden in the wake of such a massive war, there's been some discussion,
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some suggestion from turkey and others that maybe there could be some sort of multinational force that would come in and take over, but i see that as a very remote possibility and certainly we haven't seen anything serious in that direction as paul sail on the president of the middle east institute. thank you so much for those insights. great speaking to thank you. the carnage of the hospital and gaza has brought angry reaction in turkey to ankara. has the clear 3 days of morning, the turkish president richard type aired one is a firm and supporter of the palestinian costs. hundreds of people have joined demonstrations in the capital on girl and is stumble. you know, we use your 100 reports. oh wow. it's been a night of rage here in easton, who police use t a g as in boy to kind of to dispose crowds protesting outside these. right. and he comes to that some trying to storm the building others through fireworks and
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stones. the protesters, blame israel for the deadly blogs at a hospital in garza city. we feel deeply sorry for the palestinians. they are not alone. we have wisdom. 7 people have been killed in hospital, women and children gotta wake up across the people have been struggling for the last 70 years. and you turn a blind eye on them. tons of videos you intend to case president reggie atanya bad . one was also week to assign blame. he called the hospital last quote, the latest example of israel's attacks, devoid of the most basic human values. meanwhile, these really minute terry says it can prove that a rock had launched by the palestinian militants group is low make jihad is to blame. comic jihad was responsible. in any case, consequences,
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fatalities between turkey and israel could be dia, we did an immediate review recently add one has been working to with have relations with israel, which of long suffered from his support for the palestinians. a few weeks ago, at the who in general assembly in new york, he even met prime minister benjamin netanyahu in person for the 1st time. the now the fragile reco small could be over of what was said to see increasingly, is idle on the governments of turkey taking a very strong and he's ready position to the extent that i think out on is more interested in abandoning the so called a lukewarm rapprochement, which was never credible, unrealistic to begin with. one of the major reasons analysts say is ad one's relationship with the islam is thomas. just in july, he held talks with homeless political v to east main news in on colorado. the 2 men have met many times of the years, and the israel has accused tuffy of providing
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a safe haven to members of the group. during has more than 2 decades impala ad one has always been a sub and support health, the palestinian cause. and it resonates well with many here in turkey to this day, he refuses to classify him off as a terrorist organization. unlike most of his western allies and along with the wrong and culture of turkey, a is a central actor that enables from us is activities on an international scale, you know, add on, move systematically to essentially ensure that how mosque bound office space, diplomatic recognition, and hovering or from us leaders and operators inside of turkey, the following. how mazda is that falsities in israel october 7th, had one has been trying to use his times with the militant group to play a mediating role. turkish officials say they all negotiating the release of hostages, held by him us in the gaza strip. but how much influence does ad one's government
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have that remains to be seen my, my own view on this we've been suggested took his influence with him. us is negligible, but also turkey offering itself as a mediator between israel and i'm also authorities is it is an insincere simply because took his relationship with is what it was, but is tenuous at best and he's ready government and his ready authority do not trust the intentions of ad on well protesting in groups a calling for more protests in the coming days. israel has told it citizens to leave turkey immediately and the fears of reprisal attacks. here's some other stories making headlines around the world today. frances very sorry paula is has reopened after it was evacuated due to a bomb threats. it was the latest and a series of security. false alarms involving tourist attraction since the weekend police. the 3 airports were also evacuated. the threats come days after the fatal
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stabbing of a teacher. felicia and went to cyrus, say the us and is really embassies have received bomb threats, buildings and nearby businesses were evacuated until the premises were declared safe. and u. s. embassy says it is now operating normally the u. s. right wing republican lawmakers, jim jordan, has lost the 2nd ballad to choose the next speaker of the house of representatives . the house has been unable to bade or vote on new bills for the last 2 weeks since the previous speaker was ousted because of in finding between republican lawmakers . aguilar watching the double you news line from berlin. here's a quick reminder of our top story today, or israel says it will not stop limited amounts of humanitarian aid entering gaza from egypt. us presidential by been pushed for the concession talks in tel aviv with the is really prime minister benjamin netanyahu. fine,
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also urged israel is not to be consumed with rage over the hum to her attack. that's all for now. we'll be back with more at the time of the next hour. the, [000:00:00;00]
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