and how these police can be changed. the stop filming us. plea for new perspectives. stuff october 20th us dw, the, the, or it was billed as one of the riskiest strips of jo biden's presidency. but desperate times call for desperate measures as tensions in the middle east rise following the hamas. the attack on israel bivens visit is a delicate mission, a balancing act between reaffirming us support for israel, an urging it not to repeat mistakes his own country has made and responding to terror attacks. fighting arrived in israel just hours after a devastating explosion at a hospital and gaza city of killed hundreds of civilians. it's unclear at this

point who is responsible with both sides trading blame. the incident has triggered a wave of international condemnation and exacerbate the already dramatic humanitarian crisis and golfing. the besieged gaza strip article for lation berlin, and this is the day the hospital and gaza sheltering hundreds of people was turned into a hell of fire when a rocket fired by palestinian terrace. this far landed on the products in boston. we hold it responsive in for this mass, a kind of this crime. i repeat, this is the responsibility of the slimy jihad. we should no rush to judgment before we have the box for this awful situation. based on what i've seen, it appears that was done by the other team. you all need to be established

and those responsible must be held accountable. also on the day a number of countries in the world leaders are offering to mediate in the mos israel conflict, including turkey's president area on. so how much influence mine has government my my own view and this would suggest authorities influence with some us is negligible . but also took it, offering itself as a mediator between israel and the mazda authorities, is it is an insincere, simply because took his relationship with israel. this is tenuous at best, and he's ready government and his ready authority do not trust the intentions of ad one. welcome to the show. even wars have rules, international humanitarian law demands of all conflicting parties to do their utmost to protect civilian lives. the deliberate targeting of civilian

infrastructure, such as hospitals constitutes a war crime. the almost run health ministry of gaza says 471 people were killed in a blast at a crowded hospital in gaza. city on tuesday, at the time, hundreds were sheltering from hostilities, leaving they'd be safe, their home off the group that launch terrorist attacks on israel and governance, cause the claims and is really or strike hit the hospital. but israel and the us say, the blast came from a rocket, misfired by the militant posting in group as long as jihad. this is where the sick are supposed to be healed. instead of the arab hospital in gauze, the city has become the latest casualty. in a conflict, it's costing so many lives. hundreds died in this attack. if you were,

you would just sitting here and suddenly there was an explosion. the last shot dead on us. many people look is many of those cool chopping up last, what palestinians who'd been seeking refuge haven't looked at the ledger section on the lease was a safe haven for women. and children who fled is really selling near the hospital bubble on the market. they saw this place as a refuge for them to feel safe and secure. not a young brother most. there was no advance warning before targeting the hospital for them, however, they sent us a lot. they were more than 3000 people you can have in my room display as was a safe haven. the terrorist group home us, which rules garza lamed israel for the attack. and she is rout protests. have been held across the palestinian territories, including in the city of ramallah,

in the westbank no craters. the other that could be as riley army says it has proved the attack was carried out by another palestinian militant group is law make jihad. and that israel is being on sadly blamed air to ground. it was at the time that 6 59 pm. when the reports open that explosion is the honey in my dining hosp. the in got the seats according to our intelligence from us, check the report on this to this wasn't his stomach judge rocket that had misfired and decided to launch a global media campaign to hide what really happened. golfing. meanwhile, on left to pick up the pieces from the night before knowing this conflict is fall from over. as we can now speak to siena, lowe, she's

a spokesperson for the norwegian refugee council. sheena, good to see. you got, 1st of all, i know you've colleagues working on the ground and gaza and hope they're ok. what have they been telling you about the casualties of the strike on the of the hospital? i mean, they know as little as we know. first of all, it's, i think we're all expecting and hoping for an calling for an independent and transparent investigation in terms of what happened. regardless of who is at fault. it is clear that the people who were victims of this massive attack were largely sit, were civilians, you know, they were children and their families who are just seeking shelter had a place, but they thought would be safe. there are very few places in gauze. have that are safe right now. there really are no places that are safe. and so these were people that thought, oh no one's gonna fall in the medical hospital and and unfortunately, um close to 500 people lost their lives last night. but i think in general,

people are just devastated. they feel hopeless. and and last night's events have only further reinforced those feelings that, that this is, this is devastating. and that there needs to be at these fire immediately. this of course happens in the midst of a growing humanitarian crisis, with neither of fueled or water or food getting into gaza. israel has now reportedly agreed to allow humanitarian assistance into gaza. what is the biggest priority for people there at this point? i mean, i think food and water are at the top of the list. fuel for hospitals and medicine, excuse me, medicine to treat those that are ill. i heard that dr. i saw the doctors without borders was reporting that they were providing surgeries to people without the use

of anesthetic. so we need all of these medications supplies. i think at this point with the, with the society on the verge of collapse, everything is essential. the most important thing is that it's not just about getting the aide inside through the roof of crossing, but being but having assurances, but that able be able to be distributed throughout the gaza. and that humanitarians and aid workers will have their safety insured. while doing that distribution and that those seeking to access that aid will not be harmed. well, trying to access it. yes. what exactly does it take for 8 organizations such as yours to be able to, to work in a safe environment and to take this a to where it is needed? most 1st and foremost, we need a humanitarian pause. a ceasefire. we need an agreement by all parties to be as close to this conflict that they will cease fighting, so that should military and can safely access those in need. for the last 1011 days,

our office has been paralyzed. and guys though we've had to suspend operations because it simply isn't safe for our colleagues to get out and work with people who or need our colleagues priority for the last 11 days has been to take care of their families and make sure that they're safe and we and, and in order for them to be able to do their job so we need assurances that they won't be harmed while trying to access people who require assistance. shayna low from the norwegian refugee council. thank you so much. i thank you. you as president joe biden landed in israel just hours after the explosion at the hospital in gauze o 5 and came out in support of israel's claims saying the blast appeared to have been caused by palestinian militants. the president said he was sad and outraged by what had happened by them was in a high stakes visit. the end of preventing an escalation of the conflict and talks

with is rarely prime minister benjamin netanyahu until a beef he appeals to israel. these to not be consumed with rage over the last her attacks. the later announced an agreement to allows amended hearing aids, to move from egypt into gaza by more schedule to hold talks with air of leaders and jordan invite these plans were cancelled in the aftermath of the hospital explosion . and his talks with prime minister netanyahu bind, reaffirmed his report for israel. and so the us would do everything i could to insure it is safe. i want you to know you're not alone. you're not alone. is that precise? earlier? we will continue to have israel's back, as you were, to defend your people for continue to work with you and partners across the region to prevent more tragedy isn't civilians. and jo biden's visit as part of a huge international diplomatic effort to keep the conflict from drawing in other

regional actors. the turkish government, led by president ridge of type early on was one of the 1st to last week to offer mediation officials and non co say they're involved in negotiations to release the 199 people. abducted by some us from israel on october 7th, but efforts are being complicated by the escalating violence in gaza, which is also accurate echoed on, took her streets within 60 people, reportedly injured during a major protest in is stumble on tuesday. our corresponding julia han has more so on. it's been a night of rage here in east them who please use t a g as in boy to kind of to dispose crowds protesting outside these writing the consulate some trying to storm the building, others through fireworks. and stones, to protest as blame israel for the deadly blogs. at a hospital in garza city we feel deeply sorry for the palestinians

they are not alone. we have wisdom. 7 the people have been killed in hospital women and children gotta wake up across the people have been struggling for the last 70 years. and you turn a blind eye on the tons of videos. do you intend to case president? reggie of tony a bad one was also week to assign blame. he called the hospitalized quote, the latest example of israel's attacks, devoid of the most basic human values. meanwhile, these really military says it can prove that a rock had launched by the palestinian militants group. is low make jihad is to blame. stomach jihad was responsible, in any case, consequences, fatalities between turkey and israel could be dia, we did an immediate review recently add one has been working to with have relations with israel,

which of long suffered from his support for the palestinians. a few weeks ago with the un general assembly in new york, he even met prime minister benjamin netanyahu in person for the 1st time. but now, the fragile reco small could be over. what was fun to see increasingly is idle on the government of turkey taking a very strong and he's ready position to the extent that i think out on is more interested in abandoning the so called a lukewarm rapprochement, which was never credible, unrealistic to begin with. one of the major reasons analysts say, is ad one's relationship with the islam is thomas. just in july he held talks with homeless political leader is my and her knee is incorrect. the 2 men have met many times of the years, and the israel has accused toughie of providing a safe haven to members of the group. during his move in 2 decades impala ad one

has always been a sub and support health, the palestinian cause. and it resonates well with many here in turkey to this day, he refuses to classify him, us as a terrorist organization. unlike most of his west and allies, along with the wrong and culture of turkey, a is a central actor that enables from us as activities on an international scale, you know, add on, move systematically to essentially ensure that i'm off bound, office space, diplomatic recognition, and hovering or from us leaders and operators inside of turkey, the following homosexual cities in israel and october 7th. edwin has been trying to use his ties with the militant group to play a mediating role tech issue, official se they all negotiating the release of hostages health by him. us in the goal is to strip. but how much influence does ad one's government have? that remains to be seen my my own view on this would be to suggest that took his influence with him. us is negligible, but also took it, offering itself as

a mediator between israel and the mazda authorities, is it is an insincere, simply because took his relationship with israel. this is tenuous at best and he's ready government and his ready authority do not trust the intentions of ad on well protesting in groups a calling for more protests in the coming days. israel has told it citizens to leave turkey immediately. fears of reprisal attacks, frantic diplomatic efforts from all sides to keep the crisis from spiraling efforts, certainly not disconnected from individual interests for more on that we can now talk to in bremar political scientists and president and founder of the your racial group, n g 0 mediums are rem, are good to have you on the show and what influence don't international community have over what happens between israel and how much a in the international community. i wish i knew where that was. there was an effort by brazil to put forward a security council resolution that would both condemn from us terrorism and also

urge focus on humanitarian support for the past indians that failed with an american veto. the united states, of course, is israel's most important ally in the world. israel's america's most important light in the region. a lot of the developed world is a line with that, if not completely, most of the global south is not an almost everyone is unified and having ignored the palestinians for most of the last decade. but that turns out to be something we should have been agreed upon. uh and uh, and the world is getting a lot more challenging because the pivot away from the middle east proves to you that you have to continue to keep focusing. so i wish i had a better answer for that question, but maybe it will be an excellent. yeah. i mean we have seen that guitar and turkey offering to mediate and to me blinking us towards the region. so as on the babel off china is sending someone soon, is there anybody who is suited to really achieve something in this or the americans are most suited in,

in the sense that they have the most leverage over israel biting doesn't like, or trust not yahoo, but that doesn't mean that they won't work together, they will, i and given that the is really, is, are the ones that are now on the back of the terrorist atrocities in october, 7th, are planning a ground invasion that will be incredibly bloody on the back of a couple of weeks of bombings, it is the united states that is going to play the most significant role. the chinese will be on the margins, the europeans will be on the margins. they all understand that. but it would be nice to have the regional players involved actively, especially because we're talking about the potential of this. we're expanding, expanding into the west bank in till 11 on with has blocks may be more broadly. and in that regard, the biggest news this week was a disappointment. it was the fact that the palestinians thundered indians and the egyptians cancelled. what was going to be a summit,

but president biden in the region on the back of his trip to israel. colin, yeah, he travel to israel, he met with matt and yellows. and when you say he doesn't like or trust team didn't come with a strong message of solidarity. but in the week of what israel's calling it's 911, he also came with a message of caution disney, as it did and, and if it's israel's 911. and of course, in terms of the impact on a country that size, it's much greater than $911.00 was the united states. but the us does have some less than 20 years of war and terror lead to a lot of failures. i mean, failures domestically in a, an overly repressive policy that took away human liberties, especially in terms of profiling muslims in the united states. but also a much more tragically failed wars in iraq and afghanistan, the cost trillions of dollars and disrupted millions of millions of lives. and the united states does not want israel to repeat those mistakes. a ground

occupation of gaza would certainly go a long way in repeating those mistakes. i will tell you personally, i think that israel has every right to want to destroy the terrorist organizations from us. but i also need to tell you we're talking about 30 or 40000 fighters in gaza and i do not know how is real can accomplish that, especially because they operate within and next to civilians putting them in danger. now, how is real accomplish is that without radical wising, far more palestinians to become okay, they'll change their name, but an organization that will be much more dangerous for israel and for the region . is that what you meant when you said a couple of days ago that the is really population is most threatened by what the terrorist of her mazda on the lease from israel? that's absolutely right. i think it was golden. my ear that one said that we won't

hate you for killing our children. we will hate you for making us kill your children. and that precisely is the danger that when you're fighting a monster, you cannot become a monster. and israel can not be in a position where the radicalization that is already occurred among palestinians that has already occurred in gaza, which has become functionally unlivable over the past. decades gets worse and worse and worse again. hum us needs to leave this or any one that's engaged in directly targeting civilians, the elderly, the children, we cannot have they, they have no place in civilized society. but israel has to be so incredibly careful in not making matters vastly worse in the way that they decide to pursue a legitimate response against those terrorist attacks of in bremar. great speaking

to you. thank you so much for your time. thank you. security analysts just in crown from the risk advisory company, civil line joins me now from london. justin, good to see you again. conflicting claims over the blast at the hospital in gaza city. what do you make of the situation as the other one, as you say, i mean, is this tragic situation? there is a sudden amount of confusion as ever, on the battlefield and on this sort of environment, in terms of allocation blame. and in previous instance that happened in gauze or something. the 2nd yes, in golf course is a consensus now for investigators finally to work out what's happened then of course, there's no investigative on the ground. now looking at this, i'm the is ready story. those certainly does have a lot of evidence, a lot of merit to back itself. it's uh, there was nothing here. okay, it was ms for the reserve at the hospital at the time. um and the boss, everything else,

every expert i've spoken to fails be does support the sort of size of rocket that was talked about from policy is not my job. but the real point, i think, is an in some, this tragic a course in the way in which has been viewed and seen the scenes we've seen, offer it in the middle east, the evidence, and in many parts of the world and everything that's going to change whatever the assessment subsequently is based will be impossible for the public. yeah. is there is presidential by may the high stakes as a to israel to show support, but also to de escalate to using he succeeded in doing that. a real blow, i think for barton's visit was the fact that he can visit the passing. lucy, arb agency refused to see and enjoy um, so we didn't see the full benefit of the diplomatic effort. there was long to take . it is amazing to see the president united states blowing into an active. it was a um to lead on diplomacy. and i think that was a very bold move on very important. i'm the clear for us has been we support as

well, but the very strong message, the israel cannot forget the suffering, the palestinian people in this and it's new, good fighting a war against i'm us and forgetting about the policy of using selves on actually delivering. so how mass will they sort to achieve, which is the victimization of people of gaza and increase 9 go against israel. so, i mean, i message very strong. the foot towards humanitarian. so cool, very clear. we're waiting now to see does it good for a problem? because on the ground in ghost at the 5 and called on the israel government to not route repeat the mistakes the us made in the wake of 911. and you hinted at it there, what would be the biggest mistake israel could make? is it really the sustained civilian suffering in the gaza strip? yeah, this is what we call the central gravity for his rails or a foot ready. and i think there was a fight is recognize this exactly the same way it off 911. will be failed to recognize what i will call it

a head. so to achieve at the attack in the united states, which was to suck the us into a winnable complex that created more enemies than the us could deal with. and this is obviously pretty much exactly what i'm asked to sort to achieve so that the voice is very opposite and it comes from a nation that's been the, it's a nation that has gone through this and is recognize that you comp, just tackle a problem like this was an issue for us, however, buttons for the wall and however angry upset and just to pull at the tone record your population is. you need to box clever. you need to think more widely and not do what you're after 3 wants you to do it. i think night is the very strong message being delivered and hopefully that, that land time. yeah. israel's, as it plans to destroy us, given everything that you just laid out, is that an attainable goal? not just purely militarily. i was a very small cold in a very large machine and the school was a good word to her the time. and it was very clear, the amenities solution, learn when look to feed terrorism. you need a comprehensive approach. the,

the war is one part of it. but the other tools around is the diplomacy, the thinking that you might enter in aid the approach. the problem is what makes it somebody you can alternately manage and it's been like a warm crime or anything else. you never get rid of it. you have to actually control it, manage it, and when support. so it's inherently of warring at the moment just to destroy. i'm asked us a simple statement that's going to be difficult to do. i think with any pollution, i always rather approaches it underneath pollution about more a which may or may not affect how operation on the ground. a conductive, i think, certainly affects how the palestinians on looks off in the degree of international support that comes into the pool population and causes the tracking list as just in chrome from civil line. always. great speaking to you. thank you so much. i at another time, but make sure to stay informed. stay engaged and stay in touch. you can follow our team on ex, formerly known as twitter. you find us under apps that we news on myself at nicole

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