for you, let's see chris live behind these discover new adventures and 360 degrees. and explore fascinating. both heritage sorry. dw world heritage 360. now it's not getting the headlines these days, but the war a new crime has lost. none of it's in terms of dates with both sides anxious to make games before the winter impedes that movement on the battlefield. from the few i can use capital vilnius, my guess is the problem. is that in good that she money say? what i think is the most to show is that countries stay committed to providing the brain with weapons with needs the financial funds with needs, with everything needs the when the world, how's the little goes on? how much faith does she have in major plans for defending the baltic states? what about human rights and accusations for the border gods have

a legally pushed back my goodness along the frontier with by the rules. and why take on by doing the diving this you id is relations with china, off to taiwan is allowed to open a representative office in the country with its name attached to it. what did you want to prove? you're welcome to come pick tone. oh, thank you for having me here right now. the new middle east conflict is dominating the world's headlines. how vital is it that the west doesn't change? it's ios to boil in ukraine. well, it is high. so this is a message that my colleagues from the government, myself and also they like mine is the country keep repeating, but i don't really think this will happen because of the courses. so which is it just sort of work on a couple of problems. and it's natural that the new for that your information comes from israel is a guy who's most probably now taking over the public,

the public space and visit the media coverage. but on the other side, the uh, the uh, the problem i think underlying in both cases you brain on an israel nozzle is related because what, what we see here are both both bookcase. this is the fact that some of the people think that they can just improve 20 by fours a, rewrite the rules and dictates the democracy. do you worry the, those countries supporting you crying with weapons and ammunition might be less inclined to ship the supplies to care, but they've promised preferred baths to keep them for themselves. i don't really think so because i think that most of the country do understand that the problem is long lasting and it's not their fault. you know, whether you're ship or something you promise to do. you bring to keep it for your phone. but the problem is much wider. the problem is

a long time on the financing on the, uh, on, on the look, uh, situation of the defense and security in the most of the countries. well, uh, the position that you know that there, there is no, no real risk and there are no real types to, to security may be covered it, but not the authorized for the tri military file. and of course, the warranty frames has changed this understanding significantly and what the countries need, they need to increase that pension. so that'd be fine. some security. so i think the both the countries of the countries in the region has done years ago. but for this, you need also to increase the capacity of the military capacities within the democracy to produce 1st and foremost, at the woodmen. the artillery, i never think of what is needed and this is not, you know, that you can save on account of your brain and sort of you'll, you'll pay for it as much. why this is what's much, why the things that need to be done in the democratic world when it comes to the

battlefield in ukraine. where are you hoping for better results by now from the credit in forces? well, you know. 5 frankly, i think this is something that people will say want to come on understand the but on the other side, we must think uh what, what's the rush shop a lot to do during the time that the rain was not dim and was not trans. it's even uh to be given the weapons needs, because the level of blinding the level of a sort of problem that was created for, for the premium army within those couple of months, was so huge, back to the cost is a very hard work for your brain. to, to break through um, even more difficult, but when winter sets in, so everyone's in a hurry, the baffle seems very finally balance, but the moment is not your impression as well. oh, well, my impression is that the,

the changes in the, in the, in the board a lie has, if i minus the, so on the, not the huge. and of course, rationally is trying to about to erase some of the new at toxin in, in, in the region on the bottom most and, and, and the new regional coupons, most probably to, to draw all that attention of the, bring an army from the problem solving from this home board, and this is a, this is the way i'm even russian will not count its losses because it doesn't care about losses and for your brain. it just like a huge challenge given by the just smaller country. it's just a democracy has to be charged by the office. so in the end, yes, the winter winter time will be much more complicated than the summer and automatically but you understand that. but i will still say that it's not for us, you know, to make inclusions or to make judgments on, on them. on the success of bringing an army,

we just need to be patient that we need to provide a grain with everything we can and, and do everything we can to support the to that side for words, independence, etc, territorial integrity. let's talk um, if we may have bought these you, of nato unity and especially since is being reported that you might like to be the next nato secretary general. i don't know what you've sorry about that, but perhaps you'll smile says everything in you and you spoke of the global forum and telling me even you set the war, had cemented the unity of like minded partners across the world, europe, nato. the whole democratic wells has never be more united and we must uphold this unity in those cases spoken a little too soon. vince you problem turns against do crime said last month it with the supply. any more weapons off of the current contracts or not, we'll have to see what the new government does. hungry when ship any you're told of as. as of back here, not one round of ammunition more about was the campaign soaking of the mon roberts

pizza, who set to be the new prime minister. so this is not that unified, is it? wow, i'm a politician. so in most of the cases i separate the political rhetoric, especially when you know that the elections knew me from, from the, from the beach on the, on the ground. and it just not made so that this providing uh weapons and not to read to you brandy and uh, do you bring it in for it just comes from salt major or just members of nato, depending on what, what, what every country can do and isn't a profession to do, i will remind you that from the beginning of this slide to scale invasion like many countries where i'm not in a position to provide any legal weapons to frame and it's a board to us and it took a sort of this that's uh, i'm this time to go all the time that's happened in the district of care. so for

some of the countries to, to, to change his mind and then to deliver the next range of i was that was so much needed. so it is somewhat a different situation because it was never like uniform the same and all of a sudden now some countries are not doing it on the union union is not the military law in your union. it's more of the support for a, for a, for your brain, just sustain itself. the budget to review as reports, with financial support, also supported the fifty's and up to now all the decisions that need to be taken for the support of your brain. how by the, by the countries, by consensus, so uh yeah it is just not the lessons you know to, to, to, to, to less than somehow uh, some. 5 those internal debate that happen, but uh, when it comes to decision making,

i will not be about best. and where are you on the issue of view crane's membership of you and nato images, accession to both organizations? oh, it's the most probably easier to say about the you because the process is rather horrible . and there will the evaluation off of your being commission upcoming this uh this autumn about how successful successful countries, why not only your brain, but also, although i know there's in implementing the interim steps now they have to take to the bit fault is talking to negotiation so right, so they're fighting for european vanity, they're fighting for democracy and to the it doesn't that get taken into account? well, you know, you should not off this live union 5 minutes because the union 5 minutes just

before my how many prime ministers and they're all what bedding for the geo political inputs. all european union just happened to frighten in european union before any invasion installed. even before i knew that before 2014, so nobody might hear, but the foremost that's not will still be taken and it's, it's much clearer if you ask me. my understanding is very simple. if this all of interest to you right within the european family, same as with the family, but the whole list of these consensus around the table, so it will take on let's, let's go back to nathan's, july, somebody in your capital values before it got underway, your foreign minister called public key for dates, way points as he put it, so as to tie it down, you credit your membership, but it didn't get any was, it was not as frustrating for you as it obviously was to ukraine's president so landscape. it's a blessing to uh, to understand that on one hand,

there is a declaration that you bring belongs to me to the family and some broad future. but on the other hand, is due to how this notion of uh, whenever i read and the conditions i met when do way do not know what, what exact conditions are and the minds of land out the problem and solve this formula. but i think you bring these every day that is so the price for the rights to be, to belong to european union and nato. and this is something that the countries need to take into account. so of course the debate will continue until upcoming washington summit. but of course there are, there are countries that were the, that's what, so maybe they tested, but this is not the baltic countries of what exactly it says you can walk away from

this much hide summit security guarantees from the g 7 countries for now that pretty much worthless on the reading, the small print, the only from commitment by the g 7, was that in the event of a russian strep to ukraine, it, they would immediately consult with kia, to determine appropriate next steps, a consultation more than 600 days into the largest conflict in europe since the 2nd world war and you pain can rely on what a consultation that's pretty self thing is there. i think your brain can rely and will rely for the foreseeable future on the real support on the ground from the partners military support the financial support. and it will be able to support the country needs now, not in, you know, in, in the future. in 10 years or in 15 years because the model that you bring was this was and one. 7 thing just most crucial is outcomes. we stay committed to providing the brain with weapons with needs, with financial positive needs, with everything it needs to when the war band, the doubts,

but they will do that. they will come to supply the weapons, you know, long so far i have no doubt so far. but looking at the look. 7 that is the best from uh, put in on the electron changes in, in many countries, hoping to 70 percent of your time use media evolve, you know, uh, real leaders. they are like in the us and all we are like awesome the west of democracy. valdez terminated because they just comfortable for years or 5 years. i'm doing away. and of course, this is your best on, on, on the, on the change of political cycle. but i just think that this is that a real, i mean, this is a realistic. i don't think anything will change as let's look if we may add some negroes planning to display your wage and the voltage region last year. your opposite number and estonia kaya carlos was pretty scathing about nato's defensive

strategy for the baltic states under the alliance as punk block. she said it's tony . would it be wiped off the map by any russian, a bronze? even if the intention was to lose estonia and liberate that later everyone, she said, could see that this trip was concept. doesn't really look sense that statement, has nato done anything to rectify the situation? yeah, a lot. because new defense plans have been approved uh before, somewhat before, but for everyone doing business needs or summit. and the planning is a sort of based on the on, on the real world assumptions. and it is a, it is a real defense plan. i was able to say, and of course, the approach all the partners because we as the both the countries all invested, you locked all into all the defense and security. we all have all the time spending well above the 2 percent of the b. that is the 12 volts before make

a whole new member states. but of course we are still small countries. um you rely on um, on the, on the support of our partners and also on the boots on the ground. that's when the president in that and in all countries physically and to most of my thought decisions, i think of this it might have been taken by a kind of government by the government vault charmer, germany, uh. and we are speaking about to the location of the gates of the, you know, within a couple of years. and so this we are building into the structure and uh uh, and the big big capacities to, to, to welcome the of the german troops as a host nation. so i think a lot is happening funding around you. um you say that you get more german service on a couple of years, may be brigade strikes that's, that's a long time given what's going on, isn't it? well, you know, you have been pressing hard to get these troops now having to and how many has been

dragging its feet, isn't that right? i know i would not agree with you because what we were discussing about would that be a permanent position in the military exercise base station in the or whatever on, on call, or depending on the situation increase on the, on the ground. so there is a significant increase all the partners on the ground now, and this will continue. there is a significant increase on military exercises happens in the region, and it is very important. but for the long term, there will be a significant increase on permanent presence. and i think this is this a social. and the other one is what would really happen in russia and directory attacked. and they tell me, remember, since every decision is you say, requires consensus. how does that move in and start the member countries to suddenly agree on what to do with a major event like that? what kind of response did they give? what level, what weapons, what warnings. um,

a lot of people seem to assume that article 5 is like an emergency call and you dial up on the cavalry arrives. it's not like that. is it? oh i would say about uh, i would agree with this slide down about the article my uh, more a couple of years ago. i would be more, it's more a couple of years ago that non board now because i this is amazing. the annual pride of 24 february 2022, also uh 5. as a way to pull all the countries that were talking, there was a real, real mandatory fred, i mean we have the debate all the time is probably not aware of all the countries by saying, you know, this is not about drawing myself in the past. it's not about complicated history, it's about the reality that we see in russia happening where the country is becoming more and more imperialistic. and instead of giving the people

of prosperity and economic growth, they will give the people propaganda and, and do are of the of the come through. and this happens, but i think this is, this was also a wake up call for nato as in the lines. and many things have to use and then sweden and finland decided to best for me to membership. and this is also a change in the, in the security of the region given back to a couple of years ago. nobody was not talked about. and you've been reading your power point joining nato. now we have a new defense planning. we have new uh, new pledges for, for, for uh, what's on the ground. and i think this is, this is my for now be immediate danger for you and your region seems to be from hybrid wall sad things like damage to critical infrastructure. we saw of a baltic connect to a gas pipeline between filling in the stone to which i sprung the mysterious leak.

um, earlier this month, do you have any doubt that the pipeline was intentionally damaged? oh, i have my own theories by the under the circumstances where the investigation isn't going, i will leave my mind to yours to myself and of course we will wait for it because you know of conclusions by finishing this don't you know how valuable does this incident make you feel and i think what is important is what we saw also and you kind of lost or missed that the technical infrastructure and everything about this related to the 5 is the values is something about what the account to get. but she told us that easily as no, no, no boundaries have no barriers to this. and this is also a test situation where you can show that a company should feel more comfortable or should feel that they cannot control everything that is complicated to control everything. and whatever,

and what have them across the country. but of course we also uh learn our lessons and we also make uh make our own calculations. so we've increased the maintenance of the uh, safety safety measures for our critical infrastructure that long ago was this invasion stop. because we know that russia, in many cases, will consider or something like that. just for the, for the sake, all sorts of inquiries. and finally, among the population, funding is the number of concerns the thompson of your above your governments. observance of human rights among your board. us specifically with regard to migrant push backs and august 2021. the counselors commission of human rights. right. you're expressing concern that people attempting to enter and issue a new and then the regular matter may have been summer. labor tend to batteries in violation of your legal obligations. you wrote backside month saying all the people

are treated in compliance with lift you ideas, international commitments. several reports since then have contradicted your assurance. while the reports simply roll over, you misinformed about the situation by law degree, i don't know what reports you uh you refer to it, but i know what happens on my border. this is, i know from 1st time so to say, and i know that it was the can, apologies, arrangements off the fish and flow of migration to make a point again, poland, media, and lots. we have to push them for lifting up. essentially just again, it goes autocratic, the shape or to, to make other concessions because he just, uh, found the way to do so. but i mean, uh, i know what it was submitted and the international conventions. but i also know that the board is all there. and the boarders all that are they should be respect your um, constitutional court in june this year,

the glad that your detention regime at the border was in conflict with alta, gold, 20 of your constitution, protecting liberty. so they ones are the happier than the, the human rights commission, whether oh we are speaking about one particular law, part of the law. and this part of the law is now on the bottom of the amendment. the bottom is, this is a regular procedure that happens in the country where somebody refers to a constitutional court and constitutional important. sometimes the permission over legislation is not the, which is what happens then. the legislation being amended advocacy international says that in 2022 alone lithuanian voter gods pushed people back to bellows moving 11000 times despite the risk of torture from officials that did you know that oh, i know there was a number of attends to illegally cross the border happening every day. i know that there was a possibility to launch

a request for political asylum in the border crossing point. and this is, i think, the procedure that should be follow to people once a real political and refugee, i'm from the 11000 post box as well. the number of people is not equal to the number of people who are not the same people attempt to cross the border each and every day. my 1st back, sorry, legal, legal, under international law and i under you law. oh, they are not something that to that we find very convenient, but we have an extreme situation because on the increase of the migration douglas orchestrated by the time to reduce the shop in our neighbors. so you're saying that just if i push backs, i'm think that we need to protect the borders of europe in union partner. so let's talk briefly if we met about your poor relations with china, which took a dive when you opened the taiwan representative office

a sort of quite as i democracy 2 years ago, much to china is discussed. where are you being deliberately provocative for what, what, what did you hope to prove with this? oh no, we just opened the office now functioning, getting most if you're in countries. but so you knew that it would upset. uh uh the chinese um was it was, it was, it was picking a fight with badges you didn't get that much support from your, your own president said it was a mistake. it's not about the upsetting, upsetting the chinese because it's the summer in decision also with union government to increase its relations or intensity of its relations with 5 on his people as i see no problem there because it operates. and i think most of you repeating countries, the only question was that there was no new office is open in the recent like 17 or something years. but why should the union government know do this because it was

not done in the recent 70? yes, i don't know because it was how it is operating in so many european countries. so nothing seems to be that you wanted to teach everyone don't tech to around pa full countries. that was a mistake. perhaps people made with rush, it was it, and you wanted to give an alternative view. oh, i think that with russia, so you might have all the all talk receives. we have the same, the same problem because it is not that you can push the way the other side, like speaking, you gently saving that phase is doing something, you know, what is what we usually do in, in, in, in, you know, all of the, well, if you will be allowed to be put, then you will be pushed to the corner from is the good to see my you said thank you very much for being on company. so thank you. of the

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