it's a very difficult journey and one's 3 tommy question is verify everything . audio stuff. find out about some on storage, info, migrant, reliable news to migrate wherever they may be. the us crisis diplomacy is in full swing. the recently re ignited month lease contract is just one of the many products is on was that the us is gonna be having to deal with president by didn't have made of boston with a to a sign that match prime minister. and even now, following the audio deployment of to us and draft count here is to the mediterranean to deter it on the same time. but us government as also supplying weapons on financial support in the russian water progressions. again, to print a situation that many of us have started to find over by them. i mean by china i'm,

it goes prime or the geopolitical arrival is busy and expanding it's global insurance at the philip drilled summit. is the us having too many walls to juggle left one accord shampoo to ultimate to be the ones to reap the benefits. go down to the point we ask, so the ball on the street, how many people, the conflict, the us, colquitt, the hello and welcome to, to the point. i'm you shop. how do i sign in here in berlin? let me quickly introduce my guess to we have because along the he is a senior fellow to munich, security, confidence on pharma, chief of staff, of the job in ministry of defense. next on the bottom of joseph drama. he is a political on the list on the europe and director of the trial after the commission of global platform for dialogue between him and call europe and asia.

and we have suit hard, david webb, she is a senior fellow and divisional director of the german and marsh refund in but a very involved bell come to you or thank you for joining so that there is the middle east crisis right now. then we also have ukraine and russia, and then we also have china, taiwan, which of all of these crisis is something that bothers us the most, which is the most dangerous one where they need to focus most at the moment. but i think unfortunately all 3 are inter connected and there is an issue where the u. s. has to pay attention to all $3.00 crises in the world, hopefully together with allies, because without doing it together with partners, the us will probably at some point and is already feeling overstretched. i think there was an expectation that europe will do more for ukraine eventually, especially as the u. s. enters and election here. the middle east is focusing

a lot of energy of, for the us administration right now. and that's, we've seen this, you know, playbook in the past. many us presence get embroiled in middle east policy. but i think at one point present vide, will have to pivot towards his re election. me go to use has been of shooting away from the middle east for some time and focusing more on china i'm pacific. but now be was feel the need to focus more on the melodies. what do you say about their back in the role of global shed of or so what we can clearly see is when the us started to retreat from certain areas of the world situation got worse. one of the reasons is that the europeans been not capable of filling the gap themselves. but now we see america has to be a decisive factor in many uh, crisis that we have your pin unity when it comes to supporting your training construction. the question is which you've made of the, by the industry. so it's a lot the new chief went up to your plants themselves, but i agree with sort of,

i mean, if the u. s. has to dedicate so many resources to the conflicts we are talking about. i think the europeans have to step up, especially when it comes to supporting ukraine. and we have not, not observe us. and as a dramatist interest are in europe, they are in the middle east, they are in asia. so germany cannot expect the us helping to fulfill germany's interest germany has to get involved. so if i could just also clarify before you go to joseph, and the reason that all 3 of these countries are interconnected is because they're all the front lines of democracies and very dangerous areas. and it's in the united states interest as well as partners to defend democratic values and also to try to all pulled in already stressed, international rules based international order. joseph, would you say it was

a strategic mistake to disengage from the middle east within them? i think so, and we sent signals of witness, but may have in bold and the one or the other dictator. i mean, when bulk obama, we all loved him, but he drew a red line in syria and it turned out to be a pink line. you know, that's not how to turn to work. so you said if you use chemical weapons, we will. and so no. and so from washington, the withdrawal from afghanistan and didn't look have right to other as part of right. so they, they may not be forgiven, but the, they may have calculated america's weak, has problems to defend its own democracy. we may have to talk about trump and frontline of defending democracy. i think that's in america because we all depends on the america. so the russians, the chinese and all the others cannot do to us what america is doing to itself

right now. so that's the biggest problem. so at everything together, then we don't have to god, you know, through based order, which has to be america. and we have to live in a world now that has been described this tight, and brenda we woke up, we woke up late, but hopefully we stay awake and not dream or sleep walk into the next crisis is woke up late, but finally woken up. so at the moment the middle east seems to be the top priority for the us government. the us wants to ensure that the conflict does not escalate beyond garza. it's a dangerous trip at a highly explosive time. the west president is visiting israel with a clear message. i want you to know you're not alone. you're not alone. this is an for sized earlier. we will continue to have israel's back, as you were to defend your people. us diplomacy is in full swing. israel

katara saudi arabia, egypt, secretary of state antony blinking is touring the middle east to mediate and to find solutions. under discussion is also the precarious situation of the palestinians trapped in the gaza strip. in cairo, the us and egypt are discussing how to get aid from egypt into gaza without triggering of fear in the mass exodus into egypt itself. at the same time, america is sending clear military signals. it is moving fighter jets and more warships to the region. above all, the move is about the turns not only for her most, but also for other terrorist organizations supported by iraq, such as has beloved in 11 on most recently us peace efforts had focused primarily on reconciliation between saudi arabia and israel. but the war is now re shuffling the cards in the middle east. can the us preventive broader war flaring up in the

region. so now your thoughts and that can be us really prevent fighting a war industries and can bite and really contin this. i mean, right now, president biden, the us is still the leading force in the world, the leading power, the leading edge them on and present binding must do something to try to stop a coastal duration of the middle east. but he can only do it also with partners to chancellor schultz was also in egypt on a little bare bach is, was also in the middle east. so it is in our interest to make sure that the stability can be achieved. but 1st and foremost, israel does need to react to what happened last week and how much is sort of discredited itself as a party to negotiate with the come off must be dismantled and israel has the right to exist. but certainly the hope is that eventually this 2 state solution to get

back on track and a, you know, a warming of relations between saudi arabia and israel can move forward. but 1st, the hostages needs to be released. and israel also has to make a statement. and not let what happened last week go on answer, since you mentioned shows how well the tool was. it's different shows of and vitamins when it comes to the outcomes. well, i mean, 1st off because of the horrible tragedy with the hospital, president biden was not. i didn't get the opportunity to meet with the boss and with other are leaders. and chancellor schultz managed to meet have a meeting in egypt. so, but i still think that what the us does, what it signals comes 1st and the europeans usually fall in line. or there may be nuances that would maybe help the situation. but for the most part,

i think you're and us must try to remain in lock step just as they have done with ukraine. can you, if continue the task of mediation of the audibly does refused to meet with i think so. i mean, just situation about the tragedy when it comes to the hospital is okay, well um and uh, i think the combination of sending a carrier strike group and sending diplomats of is the right one. and it's only do you as can provide does. unfortunately, we do as europeans, we doing old half those instruments at our disposal. that is our weakness. we have to welcome them as the distinction between the terrible organization. hum us and the error of population in gauze. i think it's very important. unfortunately, we in germany, i'm not good enough in making that distinction of sofa. what i've seen from the us

is something i think that could be helpful and we have to see it say it's early. but so far as working during his blog of from joining uh, the war against east what i think is the most important, immediate issue. many total developments will develop on that. and so far i think that you as a setting to write to them, they're spit out about 2000000 civilians in gauze and half of which are children is to you was working on getting the humanitarian caught at all for them during that. but what is more important is that they're on more of that. so to keep a bows, his bola out of the war and the run. so the clear signal, the terrans, it's important as bad as it is right now. it could be a lot worse. so that's, that's the most important. so this doesn't enlarge. and then us are the only credible boys who can do both assure security. they are the security guarantee or even though it, israel, i mean,

who would have sought that israel would be surprised like that? i mean the, this, this has been amazing to many of us, so it needs america, but america is own only the other 4. so you can also say, don't overdo it, don't make the same mistake as we did off the $911.00. so military forces, not the only solution, i mean by no is a what americans are talking about it. so if we did that, we would have a problem, especially we in germany. uh, but america is credible on that one. 0, i think if, if somebody manages its the american president, they've gotten his health would, would allow for the president by did just that. i mean, he talked about israel's right to self defense, but also differentiated between how most of the palestinian people and also mentioned that you know, there has to be who made way to let civilians cross. and so i do think that president biden has also told israel, don't let revenge consume you. think about what your next steps are. and i do think

that president biden still wants to somehow achieve a 2 state solution. don't forget, present 5 and president obama didn't have the best relationship of not yahoo. and so i do think that president biden loves israel, but is also aware of the different tires that are on the table. and he's best with his experience. he's the best person we have to try to get him some stability back into the money to, to eat is still not treating that as he's there and they're working on it. i mean, i know that they're working on it as well. right? there is a constant shuttle diplomacy going on right now, and hopefully there will be a breakthrough. now, a lot of explosive thing that if a ground defense of which was planned, if that happens, that's probably not very good idea. is it too late or can it still be stopped? we don't know what the idea is really planning. i think they are doing well no

telling anybody the grounds, so the ground defensive as an assumption. and from a strictly military point of view, the drama offensive and the density populated area is always a very, very difficult, long and dangerous endeavor because it develops into 3 dimensional welfare. the problem is, i think that's how most is using to civic population of the area of to avoid being hit by i d. s. and it's i think a combination of special operations and drug abrasions that can maybe find a way around it. but let's be clear, this tetra tech on israel still needs to from a point of view of to secure what you have to do sort which is also is on the top of germany. that needs to be an answer to that. and i share the view of id after

time. mazda is a terrorist organization, needs to be destroyed, to provide security for israel. and the question, how to have a distinction again to separate the terrace from us and to population. that one's a, just a normal civil life is something that we did not pay attention enough to, i think also for the last the kids because they wouldn't be possibilities to organize a better life in gaza. they were different possibilities before, but how much was taking over the authorities. i'm not playing the role that they could have played. maybe there is a way to transform this into a situation where, but alive as possible and goes off to this, the ground defensive and standing assumption. but if it was to happen with the us, the support as far as financially and technically, of course, there's no question about that. that's what biden made clear. and if in that case, if it's available to date goes up, ship, then us would still continue. sure. okay,

keywords, i'm talking about the garden sentiment in the us. how well people in america looking at this? well, i think the sympathy was very much with israel. um, but of course, you know, there is a split in the democratic party to some degree. you do see people also in college campuses. unfortunately, i think not necessarily looked having enough information and realizing the difference between the homeless and the palestinian people. and so i do think that the, the government, no matter republican or democrat, will always support israel, just like for germany, israel is an important, valuable partner for the united states. but i do think that the united states also would like to see a 2 state solution, no matter how, how hard it is that goal should not be given up. we may now obviously move backwards on that path, but hopefully as make a long said, it may take

a tragedy to try to get people to talk about this again. or you want to not necessarily, but i mean, what policy makers want to do is one thing. i mean, it's clear in germany and us, but the take out of states, you know, this abrams of course. i think that's off the table. that right now, edwards, this is nicole calculation of from us not only at the expense of its own people to gain power within, published in you for the territories of those. that's their cynical paul game and to destroy that piece of movement because they would be out of business. i mean the war fighters, terrorist, and i'm not in a good position when there will be peace and arab states who have neglected, you know, the 2 state solution. i mean they, they weren't really interested when you remember, we can leeks and what all of us they said,

and then the not did. and now they have to be aware of that population, not only and hot, but do you have to be careful? what is it? because there's so many people who do not differentiate. i mean, in these regions of the world, i mean, the leaders have to be careful not to be swept away by the that's folks so, so let's not be too optimistic about about peace solutions. let's just contains a situation and, and avoid the a bigger was going to contain the situation and think carefully about what our contribution from a drug and into a pin point of view should be. because, um yes, we are on the side of you. so it is very clear, yes. do we have to put magic possibilities and to transfer the salt salt at which with going to chiral. but at the same time, it sounds better adults, but more support for ukraine. from the military point of view could be exactly what the needed was. the focus of to us is necessarily very much on the middle east. and

did you as the only one really would with the tools to achieve a solution in the, in the middle east. so it's again the connection between the, between the different conflicts but, but i am convinced we need to step up now to support ukraine to diff biden more headspace to work also on other issues. and also to build a bridge to what's the result of the discussion into us. i think if the europeans would contribute more and be on, i love it when it comes to health for your brain also, the whole argument for budget would be easy. i wouldn't do, you know, i'd like to come back to you cleaning a bit. the us government currently is not only facing challenges on the international front, but is also in competing significant holders and the domestic politics, particularly from the republicans as domestic politics, us person and fight and took office with the aim of reconciling

a deeply divided society after the polarizing trump years, he wanted to bring the political camps closer together so far without success. there was chaos in the house of representatives. there were a bunch of disputes, and donald trump may well stand again as biden's, republican opponent, the ukraine war. the counsel offensive is threatening to become a bloody trench warrant. new funding for lessons to ukraine is being blocked by the domestic political turmoil. power struggle with china. here too. there was hardly any progress on delicate points of contention, such as tie one more advanced technology. despite so many crises, the us as a sorting itself also with respect to the middle east and ukraine or the united states of america. for god's sake. most powerful nation of the history is not in the history of the world. the history of the world. we can take care of both of

these and still maintain our overall international kelly, us manage multiple crises at once. so that can for us manage to was at the same time it has domestic issues to deal with as well. sure. the united states can definitely manage the poly crisis world that we live in, but we can't do it alone. we need to do it with partners and also and says that present button has to be careful, of course, about domestic sentiments because the american people are tired. these, unless wars i'm ever since, you know, after george w bush has been in office, america is shown more of a straight. but unfortunately, or fortunately, it seems clear that the united states has to maintain a presence, has to show deterrence. otherwise, the rules of the jungle will, you know, be sort of the rules that we have to contend with. so unfortunately, also be united states because everything actually is relatively going well. the

economy is quite strong compared to other industrialized countries. but we seem to have be making our own goals because of our polarization and inability to work together in dc. and we're seeing that playing out right now in the house of representatives. you were talking about you claim. now ukraine is concerned that the middle east crisis would have an impact on them and they might not get the financial aid that they've been getting. is the concern justified? i think their concern is about the combination of the specific situation and the political system in the us and then on the approval of budgets and to the attention to us as no dedicating to the middle east and then ukraine. it's a very practical matter. it's not about political support because of all military support and if m edition is running out of certain types of weapons are running out, then ukraine will have a weaker position and russia at the same time while we are talking is trying to gain the initiative to cease to initiative on the battlefield because they know that it is

a problem for ukraine. if the us support for them not be there anymore. as we can see, we will see if the us will find a solution. there is talk about 100000000000 package that much include held for is where you and for your train and other elements as well that could solve the situation. but to us as to elect to speaker for us than to time is running and russia is the taking. that is the situation as we speak. so i think also that points to a necessity, that to your peons, stepping up also took care of ukraine more confidence in the situation because it changes the calculations clearly already on the russian side. us of the republican guns are not able to agree on the speaker. how does that affect americans reputation across the world? well, it shows that we're paralyzed and we're dysfunctional and washington because there is a lot of bipartisan consensus when it comes to ukraine. if you look at the senate, republicans and democrats both think that ukraine is in the national interest,

and i'm, and the same goes with israel. i think in both chambers of the congress that support for israel is a must. but without having a speaker there can no laws can be passed, no money can be allocated towards these regions. and so we're facing a situation where the us is looking like a banana republic when it comes to governing. if bartonville to dissolve one of these conflicts, how would that help him in the upcoming elections? as i think he will try to tell soleski if he hasn't done so far. i think he has done so far to come to terms with some solution because by and doesn't want to have ukraine issue in the election. it's not only unpopular was republicans. let's look at the front or on this. nobody wants to really defend ukraine. you have actually called people worry about his house, you know, sometimes he had in the wrong movie. i mean, you hear reassured us in munich at the munich security conference,

but he couldn't make a deal. was event a speak of my car. so because they did you crying support out, and now the last deal they made, it was at the expense of ukraine. so ukraine is not an issue you run on to win an election in us. so don't be surprised if by nobody runs on farms the dental, i guess, or that was the some she yeah, but let's put it differently by and we'll try to get you crate out of the electro campaign because he has a son who is still in the parish mall and you'll cry and mess and democrats don't want to have that. so i'm afraid you crane. i'm sure i agree with you will be all problem. america is different problems, especially nice and china. read and it just costs your training. and even if we say they have to come to terms that does not change the situation, the reality is shaped by the reality on the battlefield. we have last 10 seconds so that you have disagree. you have why. nobody runs on foreign policy issues in the u . s. and when it comes to projects on kitchen table issues,

we'll be looking and enjoying. so trump, people will be running on that and then this will make fighting to change. that's position, that's all the time because that's all the time because how many global conflict can for us really cope with? what do you think about it? if you're watching us on youtube to let us know your thoughts. thank you for watching. the, the, the

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