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of they were taken from their beds, their cars, from the dance floor of a music festival. at the break of dawn, over 200 people were abducted by her loss terrace from southern israel, along them. babies, toddlers, elderly people in urgent need of medical assistance. it's a hostage crisis like no other, not just because of the senior magnitude and brutality, the abducted or citizens of many countries, german american, british, all of them taken to an active war zone. and it's unclear what the militants plans are for them. every day that passes in uncertainty, the ordeal for those waiting to hear from their loved ones. or since i'm the call for the him, berlin, and this is the day, the
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women, children, elderly on the call survival beyond my comprehension vehicles. imagine what they're thinking. beyond my comprehension, the last thing i heard was my youngest, who's 12 thing, don't take me on too young. and that was it. the line went off and i were gone. you know, a whole lot of breaks down you don't understand, do not good is that she was under 50. what, what works has been by a why do people have like this not want to leave the new world where elders and babies, and children and civilians gets kidnapped. welcome to the show. nearly 2 weeks after her last brutal incursion into israel and the extent of the habit they reeked as anything but clear today is really, authorities adjusted the number of hostages taken to over 200 advising families
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that it's likely to grow even further. the military is bound to do everything possible to bring the hostages home, and with more than 40 nationalities, represented among the abducted. that mission is receiving a lot of international support. the head of the united nations to has called for the immediate and unconditional release of the hostages on a wall outside the is really defense ministry. and tel aviv and our walls across is real. the images of those taken and missing. these are the government most focus, 1st, the phone on doing whatever is necessary. you know that to release the hijacked people in the october 7th attack from us terrace, killed indiscriminately and it could nap civilians, soldiers be elderly, disabled, and children. so many children. now the hostages are somewhere in the
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gaza strip, or under it in the untold hundreds of kilometers of tunnels. come off as bills now that be lots of effort putting to coordinating identifying the load, casey, where the hostages all being tapped as much as possible. and of course, in the background, this talk of potentially hostage rescue attempts, but these are very, very dangerous options with no way to guarantee chance of success. what, how much recognizes scott walker says, is that is we all has consistently prioritize the safe return of their citizens. so they can add the vin on case end point. the 19 year old is rarely soldier held by him. us for 5 years is we'll get him back by giving up more than a 1000 palestinian prisoners to whom us they always want to take captives. they
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know what captain's can do. one is riley soldier, actually, and that's the price of israel was willing to pay. the hostages ruthlessly taken on october 7th and likely guarded now by some of the homeless kidnappers face a link the captivity. and indeed the threat of death from the captors to the families of those hostages are shaken and afraid. desperate for any word and hopeful that the images of their sisters, brothers, parents, grandparents remain in the forefront of israel's moves against him. us now joined by 2 relatives of 4 of the german hostages, taken by him office. 20 roman, whose sister was kidnapped, an audience, a lizzie, whose aunt and uncle had been taken. thank you so much for joining us on the w today. and start with you when you, when did you last hear from your sister and her sister in law has also been taken by home us. where were they?
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actually, i was in the south africa with my father. and when we saw the last message from my sister that says that they are all right with the picture of her and her 3 or 3 years old kid guessin. and that's fine. actually, it's kind of weird to say it, but with that it's, it's a years old they, they have a routine of alarms getting into the shelter. so we wasn't very afraid. so, but as a time pass on, we realize that this is very different situation. and this is unusual, extremely unusual. and um, since 10 am and saturday morning, we haven't heard from her. what about you audio? what? what was the last you knew of your uncle and your aunt says so like when i said on
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saturday morning we woke up a former beside alarms and again, not something to unusual. a but then i heard on the tv and the terrorist of a broken into his room and the mexican, a mother and a member so fed nikki, was even in the gaza strip. and then i hear that to my cousin is crying on the tv. saying that their dad a was pictures in gaza and that's how i found out you found out on tv? yes. and, and they were in basically keep boats one of those sites of, of yeah, where he was busy and took a hard hit in this terror attacks 140 ne, in this for now. and that's and then we'll just keeps rising. and then lots of hostages also from the keyboards. and it's,
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it's very concerning. and then my mom is from the q, what's the issue up there? it's such a nice place to go there all the time. and just seeing those pictures from the keyboards, he just feels like a nicer is like a whole movie. and you, unfortunately share this faith with, with many other families and as well right now, does it give you any sort of solace that you can to share this agony that you're in this together? one that i would say that there is a lot of so there was a right now and between the people are, these are a lot of people are volunteering to help and the people will collapse to the army and the one before the and the serve on of the we were divided the 0 a full politic issue is busted right now. i think it's safe to say just where all the in this together and it doesn't matter right now about politics. we just
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want to to get this over with you being ahead of the hostage back home and truly faithfully. and this is the top priority of the government to bring the hostages home. have they've been in touch with you and your families? are they keeping you in the loop or they keeping you informed to they know anything about where your family members are? and i think that our government has the everyone, what was really in shocked. nobody expect these attacks. so it took some time for the government to understand and i think that even right now they don't really understand. we don't know this, the final numbers of the people who the murder of the people who gets kidnapped. so until now there is a lot of knowing that the government is trying to reach us and keep
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us updated, but they don't know. my sister is still in the status of missing, although i'm sure that she's given us. i, i know it, we were at the point that she was last seen and my brother for 5 days was in the warfield and looking for her. no signs of fly them, no signs of a fight. so for sure, they just, ricky snapped her after for a runaway and square are waiting for information and we're waiting for a sign of life. and that this is also, there isn't that we are here in germany because we really do need every help to, to, to know what is their condition. your sister is a german citizen. yeah. and your uncle is a german awesome is there on his a german citizen. what kind of support have you been receiving from the german
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government since you arrived here? and we arrived here after almost 2 weeks that we were in the same thing. as you said, movie in israel, and we just decided that we need germany by our side and actually not by our side with our side because we are as a german citizens. and germany shouldn't be a real axis here. and a real actor, not only a 3rd party, this is a matter also of germany. so we came here and i have to say really, we already met the chancellor and mr. bad book and a lot of people in the parliament and we really feel a lot of support and commitment to us to, to help our loved ones. and i really do hope that they will do more than everything
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that they can. first of all, to bring us a sign of life and then right after then get them released. you know, there is talk about an imminent ground offensive, of course, also with the aim of a freeing the hostages. it. how do you feel about that? because it comes with a lot of danger, of course, and as well, i don't know what to say. like, because i'm, i'm not familiar with what the actions to be. all i know is i want israel and germany as well. do anything they can to bring on the hostages. eh, we don't, we don't know what it dates, but a, i'm sure, eh, that will do anything it takes to feel hurt at this point. and so in germany, i've been here for 2 days and or we have received with this love and support and all the and the politicians. we may as it also the public
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a love it to receiving it. it really is comforting a to be here, although the stiller it on to some of the k actions here in berlin. but the that's, that's everyone to was i now, because what will it well, i'm not safe everywhere and nothing is well, and that's outside of israel. that is very unfortunate reality. so if you had a message for your sister right now, or would it be the only thing that um i think that's the only thought that my sister has in her mind right now that she doesn't know that guess any of the live. heard on her daughter. yeah. she doesn't know that she with her father succeed to hide and get back to the army for. so this is the only thing that i would tell her because i know that you know that i
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love her. i know that you know that every one of us or her family is doing everything that we can to get her back. so don't need to tell that. oh, what about you? this? is it just so they're both safe? i hope there's together. and i'm really concerned about mount as well because of ice has a or them even disease. and she takes off fierce medic, a medical affairs every day. and it's been 2 weeks now that she hasn't received the name of that goes tension. i assume we don't know, and that's why we need a, the help of the monetary age for the hostages as soon as possible. cuz we don't know how much time she has left. without those a, we know those medical, their time is running out. this is not the events that happened in the 7th
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of october. this is still, we're still under attack. my sister was also and at least $200.00 more adapt take, not people there are still under attacked. and i also would like to say that this is not an issue about israel and palestine. really, it's not, this is about terror and the liberal world. they were and i started a war against our army because of a matter of ideology, ideal logic issues. this is innocent people, woman, children, or people ill, people that are now in a war zone does they need help and they haven't done anything bad. and their time is running out. connie id,
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thank you so much for sharing your story. all the best to you and your families. thank you. thank you. as we can now speak to or a sloan him, he is an experienced hostage negotiator who is working with the families of the abducted in israel. mr. sloane, i'm good to have you on the day you have dealt with hostage situations for decades, but this is unlike anything israel has ever seen before, isn't it? is on the i'm president to visually evince not only in these room in the history of these very like a very, very, and worldwide a never, i can never remember where it is such an eventually with these cage, with this situation of it having such a event there with the war and the having in cafeteria, t an old ladies, old man,
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about the age of 18. and babies. one of them i believe is a couple of days baby. and the city is this. the 1st event it was a festival. and the install just was more just regular within the war, but on the race the something unprecedented to really original keeping it being a you know, now the human, you know, the, the, the elderly, the babies, the toddlers, the festival goers. why did how mosse take them? what is their plan with them? who is see i thing, i don't know, i can again, single say of their desire to reduce room and attending that they would like to smash the state of israel out of this grow. and they, they are, they are a bunch of people way i believe were,
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was marshall is the nicest. as we've seen as far as bi katara who are, of course, very close to how much to have at least women and children released. is that a reason for whole is 1st of all a baby who is holding otherwise i couldn't stand is your so many is eh, but it, you know, it's a, it's all for. ready read, so ro standing did the to get such a big a big number for hostages. they took a guess and raped them. they, they took people and they settled in the, the presenting and medicines for most people. i mean, presenting, get food from babies of from couple of days and do they have city babies and
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they kids do they get married because many people don't know in the exact number. but the kid in the, in the cold blood like a, i can test it like like that matches the time as, as of the essence here, you have been involved in many hostage negotiations in your experience, what's the toughest part in negotiating with palestinian militants? this is sort of a, i think is a most overlay situation and it came to being any hoss is just thinking is the family that are living with the onset and uncertainty is they don't know they, they're afraid they don't know about them as specially the people in the babies that say i can do that. uncertainty is the worst situation to say any human
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being. how do you know that there's ferris and expectations because they, they pin lots of hopes on the people trying to, to free their loved ones. so how, how go about that not, not let them down, offer them support, but also not create false hopes. they talking about the families you. yes. it's our main main task and we are very experienced a how to take care of the daycare and how to read and how to drive to ease their life. but there, there is one thing that you can not said you cannot dean is the uncertainty. how is we land? so you're losing the all day and night with the, you know, with this on the night i use this was a love. because if, if you know that the, even the french go,
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it said less than 70 is much more with then the ideas 70 is we have 70. if somebody gives you say, some, some news about your own. and he said, look, you're in a very bad situation. it's website and then you're trying to find the bench a doctor. it's better to be as you have some hope, a bad day. if you live in an assistant gates or for years, sometimes you don't sleep, give it a brief. it's a something which is a pretty the most on human that freely. it's our lives, always telling them thank you so much for those insights and your time to be occupied. westbank malware. the is really military has stepped up, operations arresting, hundreds of palestinians. it says are linked to how months,
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israel's bombardment and siege of gaza fuel to anger across the territory. and the last few days, palestinians are flooded. the streets and cities across the west bank to protest against is really strikes on gaza here and the city of not blues people air, their frustration with the palestinian authority and chanted slogans against israel and the united states. during a demonstration in ramallah, a small group of palestinians broke away and threw stones, as is rarely soldiers. my son is following the situation for us from jerusalem. marks these protest highlight a long simmering anger against the palestinian authority and the pal assuming president my food a boss in the west bank. what is their stance? been in the wake of the homeless attack against israel. right, and also according to various news reports posted, you know, 40 president's a boss has made a comment on the situation and
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a phone call with venezuela president nicholas madura. and which is quoted as saying that quote on quote from us actions do not represent post indian people. now this statement was published on the posting in news news agency website, the wall for and was later deleted without further explanation. so it appears that he may have walked back on the issue. and apart from that statement which happened to a couple of days ago, the post to me a 40, i'm barely spoke on the matter. and if so, then in very reserved tones, or without explicitly mentioning how most of all eyes are on gaza these days, of course. but the situation in the west bank has also deteriorated since the homeless attacks. what's driving the violence there? that's right. i mean that's, that's a very complicated question, but the westbank is occupied. it is under military occupation and there are military operations happening there on
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a regular basis and in classes between the id f and the settlers and the region and posting is that many people have died so far. 2023, in fact, has been the deadliest here so far with roughly 30 people have been killed on these really side. and if you look at the posting in figures close to 200 people have been killed, dozens of these people have been killed over the last couple of days um during, during protest and during their security operations. in addition to that, you mentioned already, there has been long simmering anger against the palestinian authority over accusations of cooperating with the v is really security forces. but in addition to that, and above all, the pictures coming out of cause the stories that people are hearing that are coming out of cause of the devastation and the suffering. the civilians being killed. that is very difficult for people, especially in the west bank to too much with this and to accept but not just in the west bank also across the entire river region. we have seen protests in the west
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bank tension is firing up, but also in protest in every country such as levon on jordan and egypt. yeah. intentions are also brewing in northern israel. thousands of people have actually been ordered to evacuate from towns close to the lebanese border. how big are fears of a run back? has the law opening a 2nd front and this war? so that's right. so we returned from the northern border visited there a couple of days ago, we were visiting one of the board of towns and into line one of the towns that has been ordered to evacuate later on. and while we're approaching, we were able to hear gunfire in the distance later we learned that there has been an infiltration by his bola militants in that area. and ever since the beginning of this for the has been an exchange of, of, of, of fire of shelving, there has been cross border violence, usually it has bullet attacking in israel and then the idea of responding. and so there have been, this has, there haven't come batten's killed,
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but also there have been civilian dest um, both in israel and, and 11 on as a result of this. now you mentioned already, and some of the, the towns are happen, have accurate a 20 a communities along the border. everybody living within 2 kilometers of the lebanese border has been ordered to evacuate to leave. and in addition to that, the idea, the, the, the is really leadership has been, has been sending additional troops to bolster, i'm to most of the northern border, very volatile situation, dw correspondent mac, send our interest along. thanks for that. and that's our time. but make sure to stay informed, stay engaged and stay in touch. you can fall our team on social media. our handle there is at student one. your notice of leaving the headlines. you're looking for this course. always our website that's the www dot com for now though from entire team here on the day. thank you so much for spending part of the
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