as well then progress as top calls to everyone who wants to know more about this topic. that concerned about this story is beyond the headline world in progress. the w postcard, the welcome to our continuing coverage of the conflicts between the as well and thomas . over the next half hour we'll focus on the challenges ahead. submit a whole network of tunnels bill by militants on the gallons that you'll hear from the families of these by the hostages, who have come here to germany for help. we'll also look at new with foreign policy, but 1st the role of egypt neva. it's a gaza and israel,

egypt holds a strategic and historical place and the conflict cairo opposed to the formation of these riley 1948 and the 2 states of several was sections of land passed back to the faults between flareups. egypt took control of the gaza strip when its quarters were 1st drawn in 1949, but less than 20 years. lisa israel claimed it during the 6 day war. at the same time seizing this united peninsula. in 1979, cairo was handed back the peninsula and the 2 states signed a peace deal. egypt became the 1st arab country to recognize the state of israel. the 2 nations have had mostly peaceful relations since and have cooperated on issues like security. past governments of mediation between israel and from us, which has historical ties to agent of the militant islam as groups began as opposed

to me in branch of the muslim brotherhood which was founded in egypt. the muslim brotherhood briefly held power of to the egyptian revolution in 2011. that was an outage by current president of delta o. c. c in a crew of the group has been outlawed in egypt for him to despise cooperation with these rail sentiment amongst the gibsons is largely fold the palestinian coats and crowds in cairo has been rallying against these rails bombardments of gaza with an election due in december the government is standing sun on borders and security and says it will not allow a mass movement from gaza. egypt fee is a crude to become responsible for millions of palestinian refugees, like lebanon and jordan before it cairo who said palestinians should not be forced to flee. the lat does advocated for a true state solution. the government said it rejects the killing of any civilians

. it is urged restraint and said israel is response to homos is terrorist attack now amounts to collective punishment. egypt is working to mediate, along with other international partners and to create a humanitarian lifeline for civilians and gaza. one of those partners is the united states of senior political analyst. melinda crane has the waste angle for us upon returning from the region bite and said that america wants to be seen as a beacon to the world. but it does america one that does the america want to be the world's policeman. this was the 3rd in a series of very, very passionate inspiring speeches by president biden. and even some who are critical normally of his leadership, say that this is possibly his finest hour. we've seen him display empathy. we've

seen him also issue some pretty clear warnings not to make the same mistake as the us did after 911 in the heat of the moment responding and rage. a warning to record israel. yet his call that america essentially re assume the rule of world police man, i think, will fall on some the skeptical ears, both at home and abroad. he said in his speech, we have to stop dictators and terrorist because otherwise they will spread more death and destruction. but in fact, many americans would ask these endless wars we fought in iraq, enough. got us down our actions in libya to stop a terrorist. a tara regime there, what has they actually brought? and likewise many across the world and certainly across the error of world will be asking of what has the us actually done to, to create

a real piece and a real solution for our regions. so i think as passionate as he is about really seeing america take a leadership role in keeping the world safe. it's hard to well, the clock back to the time when that might have been conceivable. because my other question is, what influence would by that have on is way. well, we saw him trying to use that influence when he was in is real and said a, you know what? he said about 911 and basically saying yes, you have a duty and a right to protect your people. but you also have a duty to respect international law. and that means respecting the humanitarian rights of civilians and, and his warning to 911 was very seriously meant. and it's been echoed by others, including the general for tre us who served in both iraq and afghanistan, saying we made big mistakes. is that being heard in israel?

it's hard to say, certainly they have not prosecuted the ground defensive as quickly as many expected, but they do continue aerial bombardment that has caused a lot of civilian deaths and casualties as well. the timing of buttons visit to israel was also interesting. he was advising the way the government was military strategy, then be linked directly to bite and into what it may or very well may be. and in fact, you saw both egypt and jordan cancelling their own meetings with biden. he wanted to establish a kind of proportionality with his recent visit, the visit to israel, and had planned to speak to the leaders, but in both countries. and they canceled those meetings right away. so clearly there is a perception, but he said it himself is real. is the priority for the us? the solidarity with is realizing norm, this child the priority. what about the palestinian people? well, i think he would certainly say stopping you manage and stopping,

suffering everywhere is our priority. and as i said, he included this morning about 911 and acting too hastily. but i think there's a clear perception that the strongest bond right now is that bond between the us and israel, and therefore what israel does or not, does not do, will read down upon us foreign policy. there's no question plan to create a very complex issue, but thank you very much for the certificate and come again today to explain u. s. foreign policy. on this conflict on the influence of course, that's involved, something else complicating this war. and posing one of the biggest challenges for is very forces is homeless, is complex system of tunnels used in battle and to supply weapons. it's also known as the gallons of metro. here's a closer look. one of many is really air strikes on gaza. this one targeting cause of tunnel network according to be as real defense forces or i d, f,

or destroying the tunnels used by the militant islam as group from us has long been a priority for israel's military. the network runs underneath gaza, connecting its cities running to the border with israel, and also connecting the strip with egypt. the tunnel slip militant store weapons launch attacks and are believed to contain how most command centers, because those tunnels are also lifeline to the outside world. passage ways for importing essential goods, as well as weapons under a long standing is really blockade. this animated video released by israel shows what they suppose that they look like inside militant islam is tomas has been developing the tunnel network since they came to power in 2007 recently and most claims that tumble network is 500 kilometers long. come us another to how does scripts use tunnel exits. basically holes in the ground so much rocket attacks on israel. the launches are then brought back underground. that makes them nearly impossible for israel to see or target. israel has tried bombarding the

tunnels in 2014201720212 destroy the network without success, but with a significant civilian casualties. the terminal network is reportedly woven underneath the marketplace. as apartment blocks and hospitals have his head of the middle east and network analysis desk at television university. welcome . just how extensive and effective are these tunnels are are very expensive, quite effective, actually the, the whole warfare of how much is based on these tunnels. they can say something like dozens of kilometers. i'm not sure if 500 kilometers is how much tried to put it. i think it's mainly to deter it is rugs they persist anything that you may think of, including so which water system electricity. and of course,

a besides the systems and the other things, but the need for a battling good. their enemy name, use ro above the good. why these above the ground, including shooting me sizes, one is really is above the ground. and every now and then to pop out and, and to shoot that in soldiers. and you'd say this is like a city under a city. these titles are built on the hospitals, for example, how hot are they then at the bottom they're very hard to bomb. it's a major challenge the for the idea because indeed the main, that war rooms the main commands are located. we know this and they went out to the media that they are located under the main is a single the centers of the gaza strip. for example, the she thought hospital and other a schools and the clinics in order to avoid these really bargain is really disappointing. good is avoiding following these areas. but they will need to

find and i'm pretty sure they thought about something, how to still attack those tunnels, but from a different day and not necessarily by air bulk. how have, how much manage to create such and effective kind of lab work. i mean, there's a lot of money it obviously involved. or of course, we're talking about something that's only digging the cost. it's something like $300.00 per meter. so you can make the math and you will reach for above a $1000000000.00. and just do this in for us to. 2 sure, including of course, all the systems that it includes not dimensions of weaponry in it. so we're talking about above $1000000000.00. and most of them came from a succession of anything that comes into the strip. and of course,

the donations that were a given by goodwill countries that taught that they are giving it to, to welfare. but actually the money found, find its way at the end of the day, underground to, to the needs the military needs. they'll tell us what's the likelihood that they're also using the tunnels to hold hostages? in my a opinion that's not the, not the big one. uh, i think that most of the hostages, particularly kids and, and women people that cannot really toddlers and cannot run away. okay. holocaust survivors, a for august of i big to kenneth runaway store. they are being held above the surface. they actually come out just and they said about something about it that they don't know where all the hostages of the get the this is because many of them were abducted by civilians. we need to remember this as well. so i think the ones

that will be taken down to the tunnels will be the only people that are perceived. this is the didn't just as assets for the for example, a high rank officers. if they do have one, they do have a soldiers. we know that this 4 event, but most of the hostages will not be taken down as the statements a. so population won't be allowed to go down. have thank you very much for your analysis. it's been great talking to you. thank you back and thank you for joining us for the w. special coverage of the israel. how much more i've been for the will and let me leave you with a look at another of the complicating factors in this conflict. the scores of hostages thomas took in their masters cells on the as well 2 weeks ago. the international please from destroyed families full days, say for ton of being harrowing. my colleague nicole for lisa spoke to some of the

german hostages, relatives who have come here to get in direct contact with the building government . but 1st this brief report on the is where the government's edits. on a wall outside the is really defends ministry in tel aviv and on walls across is real. the images of those taken and missing. these are the government most focus, 1st the phone on doing whatever is necessary. you know that the release that hijacked people in the october 7th attack, come off, terrorists killed indiscriminately, and it kidnapped civilians, soldiers, the elderly, disabled, and children. so many children. now the hostages are somewhere in the gaza strip, or under it in the untold hundreds of kilometers of tunnels come off as built. now there be lots of effort putting to coordinating identifying the load, casey,

where the hostages all being kept as much as possible. and of course, in the background, this talk of potentially hostage rescue attempts. but these are very, very dangerous options with noisy guarantee chance of success. what, how much recognizes scott walker says, is that is real, has consistently prioritize the safe return of their citizens. so you can add the vin case in point the 19 year old is rarely soldier held by him. us for 5 years is we'll got him back by giving up more than a 1000 palestinian prisoners to him. us. they always want to take captives. they know what captains can do. one is riley soldier, people actually, and that's the price of israel is willing to pay. the families of those hostages are shaking and afraid desperate for any word and hopeful that.