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many reasons select additional reason that's nothing for me this. yeah, i believe something green is coming very, very soon on. we know when the story in for migrate reliable, nice her migraines, wherever they may be the welcome to our continuing coverage of the conflicts between the as well and thomas over the next half hour. we'll focus on the challenges ahead for middle network of tunnels bill by militants on the gallons that you'll hear from the families of his why the hostages, who have come here to germany for help. we'll also look at new ways, foreign policy. but 1st, the role of egypt, nevo, it's
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a gaza and israel. egypt holds a strategic and historical place in the conflict. cairo opposed to the formation of these riley 1948. and the 2 states of several was sections of land passed back and forth between flareups, egypt took control of the gaza strip when its quotas were 1st drawn in 1949, but less than 20 years. lisa israel claimed it during the 6 day war, at the same time seizing this united peninsula. in 1979, cairo was handed back the peninsula and the 2 states signed a peace deal. egypt became the 1st arab country to recognize the state of israel. the 2 nations have had mostly peaceful relations since and have cooperated on issues like security, past governments of mediation between israel and some us, which has historical ties to agent of the militant is the most groups began as
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opposed to me in branch of the muslim brotherhood which was founded in egypt, the muslim brotherhood briefly held pow wow. up to the gyptian revolution in 2011. that was an ousted by current president of delta o. c. c. in a cool of the. the group has been outlawed in egypt when to despise cooperation with these rail sentiment amongst objections is largely fold. the palestinian coats and crowds in cairo has been rallying against these rails bombardments of gaza with an election due in december. the government is standing sun on borders and security and says it will not allow a mass movement from gaza. egypt fee is a crude to become responsible for millions of palestinian refugees, like lebanon and jordan before it cairo who said palestinians should not be forced to flee. the lat does advocated for a true state solution. the government said it rejects the killing of any civilians
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. it is urged restraint and said israel's response to her mazda is terrorist attack now amounts to collective punishment. egypt is working to mediate, along with other international partners and to create a humanitarian lifeline for civilians and gaza. one of those partners is that united states of senior political analyst melinda crane, has the waste angle for us upon returning from the region bite and said that america wants to be a seat as a beacon to the world. but it does america one that does the american going to be the world's policeman. this was the 3rd in a series of very, very passionate inspiring speeches by president biden. and even some who are critical normally of his leadership, say that this is possibly his finest hour. we've seen him display empathy. we've
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seen him also issue some pretty clear warnings not to make the same mistake as the us did after 911 in the heat of the moment responding and rage. a warning to record israel. yet his call that america essentially re assume the rule of world police man, i think, will fall on some the skeptical ears, both at home and abroad. he said in his speech, we have to stop dictators and terrorists because otherwise they will spread more death and destruction. but in fact, many americans would ask these endless wars we fought in iraq, enough, got us down our actions in libya to stop a terrorist. a tara regime there, what has they actually brought? and likewise many across the world and certainly across the error of world will be asking for what has the us actually done to, to create
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a real piece and a real solution for our regions. so i think as passionate as he is about really seeing america take a leadership role in keeping the world safe. it's hard to well, the clock back to the time when that might have been conceivable. because my other question is, what influence would by that have on is way. well, we saw him trying to use that influence when he was in is real and said a, you know what? he said about 911 and basically saying yes, you have a duty and a right to protect your people. but you also have a duty to respect international law. and that means respecting the humanitarian rights of civilians and, and his warning to 911 was very seriously meant. and it's been echoed by others, including the general for tre us who served in both iraq and afghanistan, saying we made big mistakes. is that being heard in israel?
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it's hard to say, certainly they have not prosecuted the ground defensive as quickly as many expected, but they do continue aerial bombardment that has caused a lot of civilian deaths and casualties as well. the timing of buttons visit to israel was also interesting. he was advising the way the government was military strategy, then be linked directly to buy it and into what it compare very well may be. and in fact, you saw both egypt and jordan cancelling their own meetings with biden. he wanted to establish a kind of proportionality with his recent visit, the visit to israel, and had planned to speak to the leaders, but in both countries. and they cancel those meetings right away. so clearly there is a perception, but he said it himself is real. is the priority for the us? the solidarity with is realizing norm, this child the priority. what about the palestinian people? well, i think he would certainly say stopping humanities, stopping,
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suffering everywhere is our priority. and as i said, he included this morning about 911 and acting too hastily. but i think there's a clear perception that the strongest bond right now is that bond between the us and israel, and therefore what israel does or not, does not do, will read down upon us foreign policy. there's no question plan to create a very complex issue, but thank you very much for the certificate and come again today to explain us foreign policy on this conflict and the influence, of course, that's involved, something else complicating this war. and posing one of the biggest challenges for is very forces is house, is complex system of tunnels used in battle and to supply way, but it's also known as the gallons of metro. here's a closer look. one of many is really air strikes on gaza. this one targeting causes tunnel network according to it is real defense forces for id f or destroying the
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tunnels used by the militant islam is group home us has long been a priority for israel's military. the network runs underneath gaza, connecting its cities running to the border with israel, and also connecting the strip with egypt. the tunnel slip militant store weapons launch attacks and are believed to contain hum us command centers because those tunnels are also lifeline to the outside world. passage ways for importing essential goods, as well as weapons under a long standing is rarely blockade. this animated video released by israel shows what they suppose that they look like inside militant as lemons. tomas has been developing the tunnel network since they came to power in 2007 recently him us claim that tumble network is 500 kilometers long. come us another to how does groups use tunnel exits? basically holes in the ground so much rocket attacks on is really the launches are then brought back underground. that makes them nearly impossible for israel to see
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or target israel has tried bombarding the tunnels and 2014 in 20172021. to destroy the network without success, but with a significant civilian casualties. the tunnel network is reportedly woven underneath the marketplace. as apartment blocks and hospitals have his head of the middle east and network analysis desk and television university. welcome. just how extensive and effective are these tunnels are very expensive, quite effective, actually the, the whole warfare of how much is based on these tunnels. they can say something like dozens of kilometers. i'm not sure. a 500 kilometers is how much tried to put it. i think it's made me to deter it is drugs they persist anything that you may think of, including so which water system electricity. and of course,
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a besides the systems and the other things, but the need for building their enemy name, use ro above the grid. why lease above the ground, including shooting me sizes, one is really is above the ground every now and then to pop out and do should that in soldiers. and you'd say this is like a city under a city. these titles are built on the hospitals, for example, how hot are they then at the bottom are very hard to, but it's a major challenge the for the idea because indeed the main that while rooms the main commands are located, we know this and it went out to the media that they are located under the main is a single the centers of the gaza strip. for example, the she thought hospital and other a schools and the clinics in order to avoid these really bargain is really disappointing. good. is avoiding following these areas. but they will need to
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find and i'm pretty sure they thought about something, how to still attract those tunnels, but from a different day and not necessarily by air bulk. how have how most managed to create such an effective tunnel that work. i mean, there's a lot of money, it obviously involved of course, we're talking about something that's only digging the cost. it's something like $300.00 per meter. so you can make the math and you will reach for above a $1000000000.00. and just do this in 1st. 2 sure, um a include the of course, all the systems that it includes not to mention to weaponry in it. so we're talking about about $1000000000.00. and most of them came from a succession of anything that comes into the strip. and of course,
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the donations that were a given by goodwill countries, the thought that they are giving it to, to welfare. but actually the money found, find its way at the end of the day, other ground to, to the needs the military needs. they'll tell us what's the likelihood that they're also using the tunnels to hold hostages. in my yeah, opinion, that's not, uh, not the big one. uh, i think that most of the hostages, particularly kids and, and women people that cannot really toddlers and kind of drawn away. okay. holocaust survivors, a for the orchestra by the big kenneth runaway store. they are being held above the surface. they actually come out just and they said about something about it that they don't know where all the hostages are being kept. but this is because many of them were affected by civilians. we need to remember this as well. so i think the
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ones that will be taken down to the tunnels will be the only people that are perceived. this is the didn't just as assets for the for example, a high rank officers. if they do have one, they do have the soldiers. we know that this for event, but most of the hostages will not be taken down as the public statements a so population won't be allowed to go down. have thank you very much for your analysis. it's been great talking to you. thank you, man. and thank you for joining us for the w. special coverage of the israel. how much will i been for the will and let me leave you with a look at another of the complicating factors in this conflict. the scores of hostages thomas took in their masters, sold only as well. 2 weeks ago. the international please from destroyed families for they say for ton has been harrowing. my colleague, nicole for they,
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she spoke to some of the german hostages, relatives who have come here to get in direct contact with the brother and government. but 1st, this brief report on the is where the government's efforts on a wall outside the is really defends ministry in tel aviv and on walls across is real. the images of those taken and missing the these are the government most focused, 1st the for one doing whatever is necessary. you know that to release the hijacked people in the october 7th attack from us terrace, killed indiscriminately, and it kidnapped civilians, soldiers, the elderly, disabled, and children. so many children. now the hostages are somewhere in the gaza strip, or under it in the untold hundreds of kilometers of tunnels. come off as bills now that be a lot of effort putting to coordinating identifying the load, casey,
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where the hostages all being tapped as much as possible. and of course, in the background, this talk of potentially hostage rescue attempts, but these are very, very dangerous options with no way to guarantee chance of success. what, how much recognizes scott walker says, is that his wheel has consistently prioritize the safe return of their citizens. so you can add the vin on case end point. the 19 year old is rarely soldier held by him. us for 5 years is we'll get him back by giving up more than a 1000 palestinian prisoners to whom us they always want to take captives. they know what captain's can do. one is riley soldier, actually, and that's the price of israel was willing to pay. the families of those hostages are shaken and afraid desperate for any word and hold folded.

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