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dozens of tons of vital age stuck at the russell border. crossing with egypt. 20 trucks were supposed to be let in on friday, but so far, water, food, and medicine are still being held up. the head of the when called the supplies a lifeline, and the fact that they were still unable to reach their destination heartbreak. scoggins are also bracing themselves. they are bracing for what seems to be an imminent ground offensive find these rarely army troops stationed at the border. well told they'd soon see garza from the inside. all seem said for the incursion to start. the question is, how will it and i'm gonna go further kimberline, and this is the day the what they do is on human it's a crime against humanity of disease, no minutes. normally,
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we need to eliminate the threats. we need to eliminate thomas isis. this is what it is to my son, and they will come out to the point because like the follower confident in what it can do and what they can do. and we can do almost everything they wants to suck his round fruitful, twice enough in the area to. it draws a lot of attention to the post post. i hope it's it will be very short. they focused, very effective and they will be surprised or described welcome to the show. first, some goodness, almost 2 weeks after israel stuff or the worst terror attack and it's history. and over 200 people were abducted to gaza. a month has released to american women on humanitarian grounds, they see a much need a glimmer of hope for a country reeling from trauma. meanwhile, no good news at ga, the us border with egypt,
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despite an agreement to open the roof or crossing to allow a limited amount of humanitarian aid and to the enclave. supplies remained caught up today. the head of the un visited rafa, calling it's opening a matter of life and they are ready and waiting. the percentage of these a trucks is supposed to be allowed through the roof or crossing the only crossing into gaza. not controlled by his wheel. 20. you know, a trucks for guys, a 2 and a half 1000000 people need assistance. 20 trucks is dropped in the ocean of need right now and doesn't come up on the other side of the roof, a crossing there is may him and despair. even if southern gaza is where it goes, we'll told the northern guidance to go for safety sake. heavy air strikes and con eunice in the south meant the overflowing nicer hospital. took in even more wounded
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for critical care. there's no safety. there's no way of saving guns, so how do you have to be ready to dine and to just stay in your house will be when there was a threats originating or uh, being conducted against israel from the south. and we will strike absolutely is wheels. army will soon move into the gaza strip. israel's defense minister told the troops massing on its border oh my god, i promise you that whoever sees guys a now from a far will see it from the inside. good luck. oh. and is really ground operation will likely focus at 1st on the north with some us expected to put up fierce resistance. all of that, pushing even more dozen southward in need of food, water, medical supplies, and back on the other side of the rough, a crossing age supplied stream into a nearby airport. destined to join the backup, waiting to get into southern gaza. for more we can now speak to frank language.
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he's a senior elector in strategic studies at portsmouth university and a former u. k. military intelligence officer. he joins us from oxford tonight. frank, good to see you again. now since october 7, the is really army has killed several members of homos top commanding brass. how much of a blow is that for the tower group? it's nicole. good evening. they killed about 6 or 7 major lead us and operationally, i suspect it won't have decisive effect because need is always replaceable. and we found that ourselves while dealing with the telephone on a did this tonic state, no 10 irreplaceable. however, i think gone at the top 2 level to come about level, what will be happening is people be asking, who can i trust? is really seem to be getting so pretty senior people, how they finding them. is it to try to is, is it through tech, so to intercept,
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so that's expensive. be so difficult, and cutting away more all, i think. but how mazda isn't quite open about their commanders getting killed? why is that? because as you said, they presumably risk looking week at the it's posit come, but they will announce that losses uh with some pride i suspect these become bosses and heroes to that cause i don't think that. so i think i'm starting over the circumstances that we're billing, obviously with pride. mm hm. how much has released to hostages today, reportedly onto military and grounds after guitar and mediation? do you think this is a one off or could we be seeing a major breakthrough here? or i don't think it's a, one of this would be a strategic negotiating task on the one hand and a propaganda. as a propaganda efforts on the other. it's worth mentioning by the way that uh,
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under stomach, lois got a settled but women and children should never be home and preferably should not be held as hostages. so this where these can be used are supposed to establish some kind of legitimacy but, but of course that's, that's just propaganda. what's happening here is a negotiating tactic. and we'll see, i think several more of these releases to remind the world of who they have. and what can happen if uh, if that if their demands on this yeah, negotiated and talking to what and because the timing here is interesting, isn't it, could this be an attempt of staving off israel's and now it's grown offensive? i don't think so. and if there's such a time, it's going to fail the i know, i don't think many of us expect the defensive to cost before before. now, of course, are all the political visits and stuff. i put in one sense. israel has the upper hand, it's got the width times the longer it holds off, the longer it has time to build up. it's a picture, the battlefield is setup. it's intelligence framework and it's targeting and
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there's nothing out they come us can do to to delay that. mm hm. let's talk about the ground offense. if that does seem imminent, how mosse is hiding in civilian infrastructure in a sophisticated tunnel system, while holding. all of these is really and international hostages over 200 at this point. how does the idea of plan on going about this incursion? a, there's a huge amount of assistance, like i think they, they, they have probably, well, the leading capabilities in hostage identification, location, and rescue. the idea will be to get what, what a co trick us on, on, and each, each hostage of a certain groups they will know a certain groups of us intelligence, a huge us intelligence infrastructure is now directed towards this as well. and it's, i think it's in the ultimate certainly isn't the open source is that us special forces are on the spot too. so the 1st problem, of course, is to locate the hostages. and the 2nd problem, the most serious one i think,
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or even more serious, is to get people in and get them out. and those efforts will stop if they haven't started already, but very soon. and we will see results, but softly it's, it's, i think in fairness it's, it's a long stretch to hope that they will get out. but the bully efforts of these really commendable is really intelligence system plus the us and i suspect the u. k . job. any funds on others? i'll focus on this problem now. i'm not so pretty formidable, right? yeah. at both how i'm us and israel have not been oblivious to what's been happening in ukraine in the past year and a half. how could that influence the current conflict between them are considerably both sides been watching, particularly the developments and by the 2 into 2 elements. first in the, at the tone will, will be very intense in, in, in, in, in, cause i suspect is what it is. so just as i said before, we'll have to look up,
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they'll be looking up and watching for strike drones, suicide, drones and the costs. but for surveillance, usually these to be using drugs in the data i and a like directed drugs as you see or beginning to see actually in your grade as well . so there's that aspect to precision artillery. very important. we haven't seen too much of that yet. but we will so far we see an arrow at, at take the take the lead in precision strike. but i'll tell her will be a major factor. but it goes to elements in gaza. totally different. not least the, the nature of the bottle is totally open. and of course, the tunnel systems and the fact that how mosse knows the grounds so much better then the idea of how big of a complicating factor could that be, is a pretty, pretty considerable the idea of course, the house has not every square centimeter of costs over the last 20 years and well,
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it's in theory know it well, but you're quite right that, that intimate, local knowledge is very important. is it decisive? now? there's another aspect i think, which is it is good it's, it's rather impossible, but it's nothing less significant. it's right or so just want to survive from us. uh, terrace. i'm not interested one mind the other. and that's what it is that human element which will undoubtedly what the detriment of many people will increase casualties. and finally, of course i'm us. stop that weapon. all 5 of the many thousands of human sales. they are holding not just the hostages, but their own people on the political effect injected by that, that, that, that killing. yeah, i mean the world has been watching in horror really, to the, the deteriorating situation of innocent civilians in gaza. and that is even before this ground defensive has even started. and how can, how my, i guess, as well as the idea of go about accomplishing their goals while respecting
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international humanitarian law, which both warring parties are obligated to abide by. it may be a obligated to abide by us, as indeed the only one size making the slightest effort to do so. we have to draw that bright white line between deliberate feeling on inadvertence, inadvertent killing, uh, the, on the idea of come on this understand fully the effect of, of, of the destruction of human life in a situation like this. and when people do die, you can be sure that whether this compassion or not is why they come on this. obviously it didn't because i understand the political effect more widely of this and effective my telephone into us, particularly locally. i want to say, look, i mean in the region, of course from homicide. the more throughout people are killed from that perspective. the better. and $0.01 is was walking into a truck that has no choice. there's no, no, no alternative,
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i think forward as well to do this. but it is, this is, this is the situation home us wanted as the situation to which is really tough to kind of to, to assault. that was frank led, which thank you so much. always great speaking to you. thank you to call the israel is planning to evacuate. the city of curious, shown on following days of classes with has bullfighters along the border with lebanon. and the city is home to 20000 people and is just 2 kilometers from the border is really, authorities have been steadily evacuating communities along the northern frontier. deal anita goldstein have driven up to k yet simona to pick up the father level to take him to south and out of range of rockets 5 across the border by his beloved. so my father is revealing that that's one of which i can take on the big picture to
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my home and try since i've this is why the leaving sirens wail is a raj of rocket streets towards israel from 11 on. busy to yet shimoda has already been hit by those munitions. you hear me say it's time to go. because this kind of about q ration that allows b i d f to expand this operation of freedom to act against the hezbollah tire business of all people. many residents have in fact already left before the enforced evacuation for the confident they'll return. actually the situation here right now, is there a difficult like my body to say? but you know what we're going to in? no one is can be tough. that's it. no one is can be done. this is what all over the
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world. they don't understand. we're going to fight and fight on residents splitting the law. so now joining tens of thousands of israelis who have left their homes in the south and the gaza to another front and a fast evolving conflict between israel and tomas is the one found online. this information is running rampant across social media. we're millions turn to get real time updates. i'm at the very real image are floods of fabricated videos and photos spread by both fake and real accounts. the companies behind giants like facebook acts and tick tock say they've taken additional steps to tackle this information around the violence. but the eu has reprimanded social media companies for not doing enough and about all that. we can now speak to caitlin 10 rosman. she's with a center for strategic and international studies or see research as the impact of technology and geo politics and society caitlin,
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good to see here. lots of people these days, getting their information on social media with tensions running so high. are these platforms equipped to bear the responsibility that entails? thanks nicole. first of all, no, i don't think that platforms are equipped to bear the responsibility of content moderation. and there's a reason why the e u has already reach out to ext meta and tech talked about all of this information and harmful content that float on line over the past 2 weeks. and we're seeing that platforms don't have the resources to detach very large amounts of content, especially in non language english languages. i will say that platforms are in a very difficult position currently due to the very, very large volume of information that's flowing. but also due to the fact that platforms are making real time decisions in very short periods of time, they don't always operate with all the information. so it's not always possible for
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them to verify the claims that are flowing. so they're both technical, but also normative challenges that social shop social media platforms are facing right now. mm hm. and how are both sides in this conflict using social media to shave use of the war? think we've seen the boats from us and the is really government use post on social media. quite often, tomas has been posting on a platform called telegram, which is less popular in the united states in the u, but more popular in other parts of the world like russia and ukraine. i'm telegraph has very induced content migration policies, which has allowed mazda post very graphic or violent images from its initial attack on october 7th. and israel as well, has been quite active on social media. it's been posting on x, formerly known as twitter, instagram, and other platforms. it's posted photos of is rarely families and individuals who were impacted by the get tap. israel has also posted it pretty high profile audio
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class of what it seems to be mas operatives discussing the bombing of the hospital . so both sides have been very active and using social media and trying to shape a narrative, spend a message. and i would also just add that both sides are trying to reach that the international community. so their audience isn't just israel, it's not just palestine, it's the entire world. i want to look a little closer at telegram that you just as it's used by him on not only to spread propaganda, but also to recruit new members. now this is an internationally recognized care organization. by much of the west at least, can the platform be held accountable for that? so it's very difficult in, in the united states at least we have very boost content moderation laws. so platforms and generally not held accountable for 3rd party content that users upload. now that is different in other countries, especially the u,
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which recently passed the digital services act and the online service online safety bill, united kingdom is about to come in to us that i know telephone has not seen as much regulatory attention from the you or the u k, i think partly because it's just not as popular in in either jurisdiction, but i think going forward i would accept the governments to become more interested in how telegram operates, especially if we continue to see byron extreme is content emerge on these platforms in real time or situations. net katelyn you study, the impact of technology and geo politics. how cool and social media and the content posted on it potentially shape the course of this war. i think it affects everything. i mean, users, people all around the world, millions of people are going to social media to find out information about wars, to respond and react, and real time, which seems that the content moderation,
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decisions that these platforms make are very powerful. they affect how so many people view complex. so i definitely think that um, social media also affects how actors act. for example, extreme is actors are finding that they can gain a lot of attention, get a lot of engagement for posting very violent or graphic content. and when they get those reactions, it's like instant gratification rate. it reinforces polarizing cues. so i think 1st thing, social media change both how people view and access information, but we're also seeing social media change, how the extremist actors themselves are playing out the conflict as tremendously interesting stuff. kaitlin's and rockman with the center for strategic and international studies. thanks for that. thanks for having me. classes have broken out between police and protesters, add an unauthorized demonstration in berlin. at least 174 people were arrested and
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dozens of police officers were injured. some demonstrators use fireworks set fire to barricades and pelting police with stones and bottles. profile, assuming protesters were protest, sorry, were also held in other german cities on wednesday, including frankford where police use water cannon. and then you're in burg. authorities had bands such protests sparked by the ongoing conflict between israel and the last to prevent possible anti semitic incident. now, a short while ago we asked the w correspondent has drawn from our parliamentary studio about the demonstrations here in germany. and here's indeed we've just seen the pictures of those demonstrations which were banned for fear of incitement. and in other words, for fear of anti semitism turning into a cold, full violence, for instance, against jews are against israel. and these bad things relates to this classes.
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now this is obviously an assessment that the police, the, the authorities have to make that have been assumed that demonstrations elsewhere in germany it would have been entirely peaceful. so it's also possibly a situation that is particular to bolen where the situation is particularly heat at the moment. tempers aren't particularly heated at the moment. they will also be another dentist and they take incidents such as the styles of david's being sprayed on certain buildings. um, and that has even been an attempted attack on the jewish cultural center with modest, tough cocktails. so yeah, so these kinds of things have been increasing. maybe one should say that anti semitism itself is not illegal in germany, but obviously what's illegal is quoting for violence all acting in nevada. and then uh that was kind of fun. but one of modern and germany's founding principles is support for israel and the protection of jews is one aspect of atonement for the
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non to era holocausts or show up in which some 6000000 jews were murdered. the recent rise and anti semitic incidence has prompted concern among young jewish people here, but they say they refused to be intimidated of the this berlin synagogue could have been set on fire had the molotov cocktails not falling short and struck the side walk in front of the building deborah cogan is vice president of the german union of 2 or students. she knows the targeted jewish community. well, she was shakira. i was shocked. of course, that a synagogue was attack no, but especially this one about because it is a very small community. and i didn't expect something like that. so how did you have the feeling of at least being safe here. but as we see now, that's not the case. coconuts impression is that there is now more police presence
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in front of jewish institutions. still, many jewish people in berlin are opting to stay at home. and i mean, when i walk by some jewish institutions, sometimes i only see one police officer. and i've also noticed that they're looking at their cell phones instead of keeping an eye on what's going on around them, from problems or something that's about crowd right for this kid. even if it's still difficult to lead a normal jewish life in germany, a life and safety, long after the show, a 20 year old deborah kogan does not want her home to be taken away from her. them yet we have had over 1700 years of jewish life year. and i would say that jews have always been part of germany and many are now considering whether they still have a future here at all. it's sad to have such thoughts after all these years. after everything we've been through, the jewish life in germany should end with this. deborah kogan doesn't want to hide. in fact, she advocates for dialogue, even if that seems unlikely,
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at this point in time. the families of durham and hostages, or taken in the most terror attacks of travel to berlin, to pressure the government to take more action. chances are off shots earlier met some of them in israel, and there please have been heartfelt why see still? she's a really, really you woman. is this picture here? she's nathan. heads, phone you born babies knows 50 marguerite moses was kidnapped by him. aust terrace. along with 5 other family members, their relatives have come to germany to keep pressure on the government here. that's what out they be. this is mister shows me and i told you, but we don't want to interfere with the gentleman but but you have to do some
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of the attacks of less than with sleepless nights and endless thoughts about their loved ones. oh vision here is to try all of this is a gentleman the real that a good system and not only shows them simple that doesn't really go well they're not simple. that's our time. but from all of us here on the day, thank you so much for spending part of your day. she's in the
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renew. last, it's getting cold. the rates of holding sign and the volunteers will winter freeze the nation kids particular scene rebuild jobs. move in, this is double the nowadays we shop online, watch movies online work online. digitalization is everywhere, making our lives easier. but it needs energy. a lot of energy. today's data centers and cloud to gobble up around 3 percent of the electricity produced globally and consume more every year. so digitalization is not really sustainable or is it can digital technologies also help us protect the invite.
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