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antidepressants are stopping me from throwing myself off the news clips. it's good stuff to get them in by do anything to go back in time and not start taking those or anything. yeah, i just said finished it. i wouldn't give up taking my medicine even if i have 2 years without any symptoms. did you come in? doctor said, action depressants don't solve problems. they just, none of them. who is able to name is the main problem, is that many people wait too long before they gather enough confidence and try and to the presence shot is just wrong to think they're harmless. it's fine because they really can't do immense harm to come. must be shot when it comes to anti depressants. who's right and who's wrong, who do they help?

and how dangerous are they really the marries from hamburg. she's taking antidepressants for 20 years. ringback and she's been trying to stop for 18 and i'm trying to see i was in my early twenties, i got model nuclear elsis and i to assemble. but when it went away, i was left with a low level depression on sundays as trust. and then i started getting stressed by things that hadn't ever bothered me before and flu shot up and i went to a neurologist and she prescribed antidepressants. secret of course.

then have you she started to notice i had more energy again paula: so i went back to the doctor and said, i didn't want to take them anymore. he said ok, stop taking them and i did. and that's when it started doors. so the cutoffs i felt like my body was under, in men stress look like. so i think it was as if the devil was always chasing me. i was nothing helped with a stress. and these types of i still didn't look for it sort of shaking happening, but stuff because i just couldn't stand it record. so when i saw i'm on the slips, every cell of your body is wrong by terror, and it just feels like you can cope with it to tackle. you just can't bear it, but it doesn't stop for a minute on and on and on and on. because this is, you know, so i think i was getting back to invite, to invite, to invite the doctor's eventually realized that mary's anxiety

began when she stopped taking anti depressants. her body was in withdrawn and still is shasta investment of your 1st claim, your own mental state. i said to me, i'd never have thought that stopping my medication could have had anything to do with it. this time it was kind of what it means. no one told me about side effects and in the long term issues or problems, getting them up with one of them. i think i said it was never mentioned either. hopkins came out and i just thought that if the doctor gives you something a medication that is available in this country by prescription, it can be that, that for you to select so the, the number of prescriptions for anti depressants has gone of 8 times over the past 3 decades to about 1700000000 daily doses here enough to supply jeremy's entire

population for 2 weeks, the professor tom sure wants to know what's caused this mass of boom and anti depressants. he's one of jeremy's leading researchers into anti depressing cues. he's also a sought after expert when it comes to treating depression. as a psychiatrist, he also studies whether people are being treated according to the latest recommendations. the this sort of see how you're taking out to the presidency name, correct. and on wednesday, and what are you taking for the faxing and not fax, the fax. and that's why the why didn't you start taking antidepressants? do you remember the phone book on an invalid? at this is it as well? so yes, several that's in our family. i couldn't be happy anymore. are going to dispense fully sign me. it's going to see like a fog, a difficult question,

but i'll ask it anyway. what helps the vendor affects in our conversations at the clinic or something else, or i don't know why. so unless it's think about both i think but and also cuz of in the vaccine pulled me out of the ho but lots of talking and meeting people also did i started feeling better this? yeah, sure. okay. it was 5 years ago. yeah. my preventative question. why are you still taking the effects and i see is names for 5 because of my psychologist. yeah. chapel. so we've often discussed me giving it up upset some countries when sees and she says you shouldn't stop too quickly. yes, they say that following a 1st severe bout of depression, 12 months course of anti depressants should suffice under way past that it would be a good time to stop at some upsets me, professor sure advises against taking medication longer than necessary,

not least because of side effects including weight gain and sexual issues. but he says too often prescriptions just keep flowing in. i guess that's fine. have a nice day. it's gibbs, i'm calling yes. nice doctors think they're safe if they recommend people keep taking onto the press instead of as i didn't need some vitamin d i to do a pleasant it also call me that these a lot inside. that's the last thing factor you see reflected in prescription numbers. you going back solving much? i don't think you can save this huge rise in anti depressants. prescriptions is largely because everyone with depression is finally getting diagnosed and treated but so and how, how did they perceive them to call them with the students yet? we haven't that goal was tied in most cases of depression or just like to model it's cases and you really shouldn't automatically treat like depression with medications. hyundai

this issue, it's like as high eat i drink. i take my tablet. is that my a deposit of my daily routine? it doesn't upset me or bother me, that'll be taking medication all my life and he's supposed to be. so if it doesn't affect my quality of life, it is quite a to me because i know these pills gives me a quality of life. well that they can restore it as the vs. them some stops again and, and be the most that goes into market over it. i christina is from live sick and has been taking anti depressants for 23 years. she lived in a group home as a teenager, after her mother took her own life. depression appeared later in life. the leaves is kind of fish. i was in my mid thirties when i had to give up what i thought would be my life. and i just was then, i suddenly couldn't look forward to anything, but i knew

a depressive episode could totally turn my life upside down at any time. come cut from corston, pasadena needed several years to stabilize her mood. not just through medication, but also with meditation and psychotherapy. the is vice this by me a but those key factors that can lead to depression play a role in mine, and i'll just be in the side is one of those, the experiences or events in life that have contributed to me. but suffering depression. they proceeded, if he's, without the tightness or, and that's the of the, is the in balance of neurotransmitters in the brain in the home. that's what casino was repeatedly told in the hospital. one of the transmitters beserra tonin, transmits information between brain cells. the serotonin hypothesis says that if

levels are too low, transmission fails, and that can lead to depression. that's why almost o antidepressants increase the concentration of sarah toner between cells. the theory is a simple one. the more sarah tone and you have, the less depressed you are the best inside of done. it's a convenient type offices or should be in by monday. that's easy to understand because you have a simple, apparently biological explanation. it can say that i have a server toner deficiency and display for doctors. it also makes to comes the patients much easier. listen, you have low serotonin and i have a drug that will increase it in a home. it makes for an easy conversation to head on. so i think that's why it's so persistent and widespread. the problem is it is totally completely wrong. and yet the internet is awash with reports, claiming sarah tone and deficiency causes depression. even though studies have failed to prove the hypothesis,

no one actually knows what goes on in the brain during depression, and how anti depressants influenced the psyche. but science rejected the thorough tone and hypothesis long ago. feel it absolutely have so many doctors will say they don't know if it's true. that's best because they have their doubts life. but you notice that there's loads to completely reject this simple explanation of dependency. we can yeah, find these uh, i can actually have on fox sheet and the i to opa and time for germany is the side of a bi annual convention of the german depression age foundation. people with depression and their relatives can come here for advice and talk to others about the professor early kagan, as a psychiatrist and chairman of the foundation, it's financed by donations and public funds.

he got his turn to the media to increase public awareness of depression. the most, i repeat visitors at the convention, which includes everything from musical entertainment to yoga tense and personal towns. the central piece is a series of seminars focusing on depression. it's causes and how to treated correctly thanks on came to know, did you ask the general public 95 per sam will say depression is a result of personal tragedy over work. relationship issues, the discount. that's what people believe this is of who's gone and that's not quite

wrong. but the significance is massively overestimated them on the dip because you only see depression as a result of difficult life circumstances. some people tend to reject medication at the same time is blaming wrong decisions and try to when it's not, they're not going to, i mean, to come in to, to name and people obviously aren't willing to try medication if they think their relationship is to blame. and to, to it's only when they understand, but it also has links to the brain that they understand things better to feet and less than it's a relief for many to realize that they're just unlucky. they're predisposed to this really stupid illness. and now they have to try and make the best of it, like others living with, for example, diabetes office, paid the campaign for years to increase the use of anti depressants by the people are usually skeptical because i often find an exaggerated skepticism

towards anti depressants. so i don't see a risk of them being taken widely at an increase rate or frequency service. i think the biggest problem is that many people wait too long before they decide to try the problem. i know many people who say that was the point that their life change with eva configured. they don't song up these and type of thing. my leave on the slide. it helps feel free to mention that i've met so many people who missed out on thriving home because they rise garron because they were told antidepressants aren't any better than a placebo or that they'll be come and dictate. people are told all kinds of things and are scared much more than necessary, as new to guest. many attendees have personal experience with antidepressants. just give it to the search engine to tie, admit anti depressants, helped me, and when i was really bad, other. but i suffered a lot of side effects and pretense was the most unpleasant side effects of the

names and the invoking. and my emotions felt dulled and i couldn't cry, and i didn't feel like me any more smoother, just confused on the spanish to naples. the side effects were very strong on the side, and it took a very, very long time for the actual benefit as it took a lot of patients that month to month to each 5. when, who would you take anti depressants again? name yeah, yes. i think i would sure fish a but perhaps was better supervision and may be a bit more. well, i was lacking advice. really see the best means you might think here you're pushed too much towards drugs. truth, maybe i'd like to hear more about subjects like spirituality, meditation, and all those other things outside the mainstream, those 2 months it can be dismiss one business male to my thought. they were pretty weak here this morning. if i was honest, it's very one dimensional argument and it's very pro medication for me and not

enough about the down sides. yeah, i'm at the top and then we've spoken to patients who said this is a very anti depressant, friendly event was i couldn't do this in this in particular. i think that shows this antipathy towards anti depressants of us. i feel like that's doing a lot of damage to i believe it, father, under the 5, had to have this conversation with patients so often when i tell them to try them, this is and so many people were so grateful that they did in photography inside the house on 51 that's outside of the us, put that on, you know, my opinion matters. i just keep mentioning these are people who are allowing you to hopefully if of course i hope so. i hope that people listen obviously is what i'm not telling them anything wrong with sort of a disclosure. a pete, it's, i know it's such an influential position. mean you can't accept payments from pharmaceutical companies in august, and when did i last get a payment? by 2021 and one of your article states within the last 2 years on rick,

hey girl was advisory board member of johnson on speaker survey. i'm a d j for example medice from i should be in this in the shop to the corporate office. i'm in the fortunate situation that i'm not dependent on that at all. what this thing that was a speech for which i was paid $500.00 euro. so with, with that is a very, very small something. this is guns, guns, giving us all the stuff to come in the opposite. get sure about has been constant for years. a 1000 years 20132017. to 2021. where you worked for various pharmacy companies. him for these each doesn't preclude you from doing what you're doing right now. being a mouthpiece kind of tune them salvage pop, lots of 5. it's been, it's been oh, i'm also an associate professor. we're also conducting research into antidepressants, on the 4 flats run, mostly by industry, and we were engaged in collaborative work. even if you can't avoid it, come with its own unfortunately, isn't about me, but you personally get paid because i haven't received

a penny in 3 years. that's as far as that's from 2021 on the investment i in the past 3 years. i think probably i'd have to look, but i haven't gotten anything in 3 years. there's no conflict of interest to come to kind of christmas conflict. a foot note to a 2022 research article that hey will contribute to to says berkeley cagle reported receiving money from johnson survey biopharma. and it did say outside and independent of the submitted work data is the shot, is everyone's convinced. they want to be influenced an item, i don't, they think they make their own decisions. that'd be windows got funds based on their studies proving it. and so if you ask, do you think you're being influenced? they say no. if you ask if there's colleagues would be influenced, yes, by everyone believes that the only ones immune to influence, but it really affects your way of thinking and the police on the industry doesn't

have money to burn it. so i think about where to invest in this to me, sometimes those are going wiley's, i can tell you that because i've done it once, isn't house one hours on its top and being paid by the pharmaceutical industry for it and off the phone to have how much i edition in this to you will know how to do it because at some point i couldn't have a clear conscience that lied to me. i didn't think it was ethical to take any more money from the pharmaceutical industry. right. i like gauge me off on now, thoughts auditioning as to what you don't hear on stage at the convention is anything about the growing doubts surrounding the effectiveness of anti depressants . down step 1st arose in 2008. the psychologist irving crush was conducting research at harvard university and boston. she was testing whether antidepressants work better than placebos. a cbs documentary about us findings cost a fire storm of controversy. second study using data not only from the drug

companies, clinical trials that had been published in medical journals. this time he got data that weren't published, but had been submitted to the f. d a, which he got through the freedom of information. these are the studies that showed no benefit of the anti depressant over the placebo. what they did is they took some more successful studies, they published most of them. they took their unsuccessful studies and they didn't publish them. the 1st use the junk company's own information to show that for people with light or moderate depression, taking a placebo or real medication made no difference. antidepressants don't work for them. crush concluded that anti depressants only showed an effect and helping severe depression. the

mary was one of those who for years believe the pills worked until she came across other people's experiences on internet forums. they reported severe withdrawal symptoms every time they tried to give up antidepressants. chapter 5. understood no . i just and believe it. i always just thought it was neurotic rubbish from likely that they were people with psychological disorders and found it easier to the same . the drugs then look at themselves and deal with why they couldn't cope this. and that's what i saw to the subject that mary is a qualified psychologist and until recently worked in the outpatient department of a psychiatric clinic, she was never taught as a professional about withdrawal symptoms related to stopping the use of anti depressants. this i learned in my studies that these were non habit forming drugs. they didn't alter your personality or have side effect. that's what i learned. and

i just used to pair it at all back to my patients telling them that yes, they probably have low serotonin levels. i simply carried on repeating all that unchecked. like every other psychologist, that's what you believe. i think stuff is done at the same time. i was sitting there trying to pull myself together on the function normally and speak normally to people, questions, and to help them on the award dimension of the field for the field. and the, i don't want to do it any more who, who has to hit a dancer, but i could have carried on a demo. and there were so many opportunities for me professionally in because i don't want to do that anymore. and i don't want to fight the system this way though . i just don't want to him came from it's been a while. i just want to get better with me and but no big enough. he in one of his food and i don't want anything to do with these drugs. going to come out next next to him. some clinics now take an alternative approach.

the center for mental health and marine hide in your combust spouse. in western germany has award, where no anti depressants have been prescribed for 5 years. not even for severe cases. the head of psychology here, professor hi, not moss believes that depression is best explained by the events in people's lives . she works with patients to find a checker and develop a treatment plan with various options. the his approach is often quite unconventional. it's kind of between them that is much less stuff. what can i do to make myself feel worse? my mother's phone, an inverted if i plan to feel really bad this evening by 8 pm. say to be really depressed. and what do i do? let's come on to the fall. i blame myself for. stay in bed,

just pull the covers up over my head. think about sad experiences. anything else that can office on this plan too much and then feel overwhelmed on this one flows and does it then you're inside the downward spiral? no, i so i mean it's really important to add more positive activities back into your daily life. to generally become more active again, and that's independent of your move out because i don't think i've visited the other student on this. as soon as i see every day things small things by level, you ask yourself, why don't i do it if it's going to make me feel better and definitely if it makes me better, what stopping me up. yeah, to take assist, clocks and nothing, but a trick is to be clear about why it makes sense and why it's important that part of i know when i was i might not feel like going for a high call or

a walk around with or painting a picture kind of just, i really don't feel like it is, but i know it's the thing that will improve my condition, done more than i do it. so it takes the most important thing is to start doing something again. so call me because that is the start of the process that leads out of depression faces the us to, to pursue and that also it can be exhausting. it's hard work just like pushing a car. but you do that because you know why you're doing it well for my wife, for to school, just the clinic looked at it's therapy success rates a few years ago and by chance discovered that its approach was successful. after studying the results of nearly 600 patients, this is this the stair test, and we discovered that antidepressants play no part and a successful therapy. i thought somebody kind of wonder if it didn't make a difference, whether you supplemented treatment with antidepressants or if you stopped taking

them for the opposite. whether you kept taking them or didn't take any and all that was the result was only the same assistant light, of course it had on sort of a few that let us to stop prescribing antidepressants to our patients here. so this 3 of us will go to me, it's even ethically problematic to recommend a drug with side effects and know beneficial effects, even though cool from fear in for of on this i can best assist you however it patients wants to continue to believe in them then no, we're not going to force our believes on them. one thing, the other thing that in this one's own vision of the honda is checked in 2 weeks ago with severe depression. he's a married 30 year old father with 2 small children. the fits the job gets him restored. as of the last year, i realized my depression was like a monster keeping me prisoner continental, everything looked black. so i had no self esteem less than $24.00. and it was like

a poisoned arrow stuck in me for that poison spread and poisoned me with thoughts. and i couldn't think of anything else on those things and come the new one has tried to cope with his depression by himself for a long time. until last year, when he knew he had to get help destroyed by my house or my family doctor, excuse me, from work to me. the heat prescribed me my 1st antidepressants, but they weren't working, disclosed them? um we switched to a different one does include a, but i didn't feel anything kind of not even side effects of kind of made him go cool. it was like taking sweet so he's when he's on bumble. of course it would be great if there was a tablet that simply shield depression. the difficulty, what i suggested to short weeks on the sofa drinking tea, then your hill, the culture leading to taking on that. that's not the case. unfortunately. no, but on this or i hope that here and together with the experts is it's like and

create a roadmap and that will help me get my life back on track on the issue and, and be there because a gets hard work even come. but hopefully, it will be worth it in the ends amended us failed or so because the tablets don't work. he wants to gradually stop taking them. german guidelines have recently begun recommending against prescribing anti depressants for light depression, but for moderate and severe illness, even those studies show their effectiveness as questionable we're going to be 50 can we can do. you have to look at the studies default type students into their phase 3 studies in approval studies. and which antidepressants are compared to of, let's see about drugs. they want me to come in a warranty. then there is a difference between a placebo and the real thing vehicle was it was evil. it might not be huge holes,

but it exists logical sense of the core they wouldn't be approved because they didn't work when he gets my name. i don't if you want my opinion from my clinical experience, i am convinced that the effect is greater and every day useful. i took courses, i've a who isn't clear and didn't do it as director of a clinic and you see most people leaving after 6 to 8 weeks of looking forward to going home to their families, to do it for me. they're able to enjoy things and do things again, often happens routinely like it comes, comes to being, there's only a minority where you have to try something again from a homeless and even fewer where nothing works. that's less than one and a 1000. i'm putting in my estimate, you can help me out, i can come and help you out a sure that's a claim that you hear again and again talk. my thoughts wasn't funny, but i put it like this. it is a claim kind of be some talking to evidence of things. we don't have any scientific evidence to back it up the one the particularly in a clinical setting lock did young. there's much more to which and simply with the

medications that are contained on their regular contracts with people do, they're talking to colleges with social workers, various forms of therapy, these communities do stuff, things for me to know and that's, that's a depressive symptoms diminished their door but we just don't know whether that's 22 effects of the medications or other factors in order to sort of from my clinical experience. i don't see any scientifically convincing evidence for medications and suppose inconveniencing. dr. michelle hadn't gotten as researching depression at the zurich institute for applied sciences for years. he's noted that all major studies on the f activity events depressants show similar results. context where the recently the us food and drug administration, the fda, evaluated patients individually. and the biggest study of its kind ever born and they showed, once again, you know, the off, the average effect of treatment is really very small. to fix their klein,

the 2020 to study concludes that drugs only show significantly stronger effects than a placebo. and just 15 percent of patients and 85 percent of patients. that's not the case. the really certainly the person at the, if i have depression myself, and i would start by taking anti depressants and said that with the basic it as soon as i start feeling better and i'm able to make changes to my life and ask myself, are there areas conflicts in my life where i repeatedly feel overwhelmed situations i should consider changing photos with what you want him to impact streamlining screen with the knowledge that depression has something to do with brain function is very important to hearing from child to to as is the presence of a disorder in the brain skill within 4141. so they, how numeration can maple them for treatments to treat the brain. can you start to feed words that they forget the much wider social context of an environmental factors to social factors and all the texas?

who are the people suffering from depression? a lot of single mothers who are overwhelmed audits and who can show their dist dupel burden and also looking at people who have been unemployed long term, who sat on tv and on social media. what's possible in life, people are stuck in pokey dark apartments and can't afford any of that size and kind of my view. that's where we fall short talking to me. why? because there's no funding for it. and on a monday for so, i mean, hopeful research is largely sponsored by the drug industry and tossing of duty. but of course their social prevention measures and as they are and then they would represent the competition for their products. you might just say, because you don't take country depressions until you have the disorder of image doing because you can prevent a disorder, you wouldn't need the drugs to put it bluntly scheduling. most research funding goes into pharmaceutical and medical studies says, hang god, now all this research has been unable to explain what happens in the brain with depression,

but anti depressant prescriptions. continue to grow not least because depression is often wrong. the diagnosed the mazda of us song. what we can say is that many moods dr. ultimately diagnosed as depression, to not an actual effect fulfilled the criteria for depression. i can please and seen. and just, and what did you like most? you can continue on with the pursuing a freedom one day and that's probably the problem and on it goes to the doctor to my house, and it's not exactly clear whether it's depression too far as an easily expandable feeling of projection. you'll notice so i mean no model up level and you get a diagnosis during a relatively short consultation from a full 10 minutes. you've got a prescription from now. it's gonna display nothing when i typed this. think of the largest group, a bunch of depressing takers. are people with light, subclinical forms for me, because the most common consent on, cuz we have no scientific evidence that medication is helping nice group of suffers has been induced. that's the problem we face today. wasn't able to claim what i

mean will be a one point. 2 percent. the mary is gradually lowering her dosage every day. she does the same thing. she dissolves her anti depressants and watcher and drinks a carefully measured amount every couple of weeks. she reduces that even more the the mary's now found a doctor who's helping her to give up her tablets. a process that she has long struggled with it for me. i'm happy you came isn't good few. yeah, it's been for very extreme years or i've been more or less stuck on this one that is long and i'm sick of it. let's look at the moment. i'm getting lots of physical symptoms of friendship and sometimes really extreme,

excuse me. and then i think i've got the flu but an hour later it's all over speed . so usually i'm not that sensitive as to the ones couple ish as we need somebody to cover this me. yes. and the physical flu like symptoms are typical when you stop taking them acutely. and then we'll start late. so it's not the 1st time i've heard the option from 56 percent of people who take anti depressants are affected by acute i'm chronic problems giving up the, i mean that semester analysis from london university, i'm switzerland on one of the sites. and this is for ms. i'm really, really relieved to hear that do tuned to 9 and i think and medical professional confirmed that too. and it puts a different light on things. and ms. abram almost is, although you're not just saying i'm someone with psychological problems to just have to accept it in google and that was most of his apps and exactly the laven,

hutchinson. i often patients a label to psychologically ill. a. i thought that actually just having medical withdrawal in home that told us something wrong with that. and in the disco, the bus hutch, the, the gifted slide it there are people who are trying to make a huge fuss about withdrawal isn't for schools. i thought this coming in normal health care, it's a tiny problem to get put to the we have countless patients here who stops taking their medication without showing any kind of dependency this of the use. of course, i would say there's a greater risk of the depression returning if you stop taking it because it works against of depression. think this is not the bottom. and if people stop taking it and the risk of a set back increases is what he's had that is the best explanation on the 60 no, i didn't use the appeal that's based on the opposite. symptomatic surrounding

withdrawal symptoms is not that wide spread among doctors give saw that's, that's, i mean, there's always the danger that people mistake withdrawal symptoms but the return of depression, lots of fluent and think they have to start taking them again. and that's certainly happens a lot in the holding fee goes and that's what i find concerning about the ever growing number of prescriptions. i mean, that's me. on shackleton, it's essentially a sign of how difficult it is to get off on too depressing stuff for like i was talked often. that's the highest one. i think the because there are more and more patients starting to annoy when hardly anyone giving them up at home. i know i can read out all of the tests. dina has decided to not just see her depression as an illness, but as an opportunity to help. she advises other people with depression and their families by telling them about her experience with the illness. and she listens. ready among actors, you know,

you're on well gateway and to finish this month and then you decide to address the problem, this problem. but you just end up feeling more and more helpless. it was a, this is even this to that is the typical of, of depression. it really changes the post office of demonte, where people sometimes want to discuss whether they should or shouldn't take antidepressants. christina tells them about her experience with them, that she's never had bad side effects. that she sees them as a reliable weapon against depression. even though her illness keeps coming back, the it's the last day of your highness is drug free and to depression. therapy has 10 week treatment program is almost over. he's just going to this final embodiment group because roll your head

a few times gently this way in that he's been learning how to use his body to influence his psyche. he's been asked to discuss his goals once he leads to investigate. i'd really like to be more relaxed, more stressed resistance does not have the feeling that everything is an insurmountable mountain belk. that's one thing i'm, what do you want instead of the stress is i hope to be more capable. that's very, but i want to be more dependable as i want to be confident and dependable by being aware of my abilities and challenges to control my abilities. and by taking a break at the right moment on an existing moment. i know how is that. how does that sound to you? a lot of yes, that sounds like me think that sounds right. sounds like what you want to achieve, what you have to face now. yes, absolutely. johannes will go home with

a complete set of tools to fight his depression. they include very simple measures that can help counter depression. somebody's photography, done for example struction your day with one simple principle please. when getting every day is achievable, guy and every day, a positive experience doing something that you guys to enjoy seeing a guide and getting up early, regardless of whether you've had a bad night. now that's effective against depression keeps the type of that and not letting surfing on the laptop at 3 in the morning. be the most active part of your day spot in the deed on this, on the 3 harmful homes come monday, activities and mobility is good. and um, you can easily build that into your daily structure. these are a few carton rules that you can try instead of taking depressing straight away, and still be successful. dom at what tough, why that's here? the

tickets i'm doing fine is helping say before i shock myself, because i'm allowing myself to feel joy again. it goes to a lot and again, who goes to look forward to things again for him. and it was like a light switch being lazy as well. and honestly, it wasn't really what are thoughts basically, you're not an awful guy. so and you have a right to live. yeah. and you're fine as you are. and i'm going to to lead one to because it's going to be list yes, knew me from finding it wasn't. i've been off antidepressants for several weeks. i just had a few side effects when i stopped and even though i realized they weren't just smarties shopping. and i sat on a chair in the cafeteria and i felt really dizzy and spies as i knew was a free my thought i was going to fall. i was holding till i had to really hold on because you didn't. i felt sick on your boss. i often felt like i was going to throw up a stomach with stuff that was just really hard to deal with the spinal cold,

most so high your highness as determined. she won't take medication again, even if the depression returns. so long as i'm going to get going, now i'm going a school good. all the best partner . so inside, i'm really looking forward to the time you something kind of the time i couldn't really spend with my family. i get out of line. i almost want to cry with joy and up. i didn't again to be with them again. and they're the best thing that ever happened to make the, hey, i'm coming home, know me. but i think somebody help us pick times to worry about the day to day stuff and i'm not so sure about that. can i do it in the dental office?

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