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the thoughts of hours when we say they're about never getting up every weekend on d w. the everything that he knows about his roots is inside the suitcase. paul redmond was born in an irish mother in baby home. just a few days after his birth. he was given up for adoption. ready this letter is only linked to his birth mother. ready this naturally is a personal touch. it's something she wrongs it's something she touched. so it's,
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it's some sort of physical connection. the physical connection. it might not have a whole garter kiss, but at least you've got something to talk to the whole of these are the survivors of a scandal that is still rocking ireland, born and catholic institutions and still trying to discover their identity and trace their birth parents. the the seemingly tranquil town of tomb and western ireland. a place that and a car again, just can't seem to forget. this was once the side of a mother in baby home run by catholic nuns, up to 1961. and married women were sent here to give birth. the remains
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of 796 infants lie here. this is the, the list of the children who died in the home. here, john does mantell and he died 15 months. john, her older brother was born and apparently died here. and then there is william. what happened to and his brothers, and there was no official grave for decades. the nuns didn't just hush off the high rate of child mortality in the home. they also humiliated and neglected even the very youngest of children. and a still doesn't know what really happened to her brothers here. it's a very strange position to be in because i have one brother here. i mean has a death search. so i'm not blue, but he's here. i have another brother who's dead, doesn't you have a death certificate? no reason for that. animal select believe he's here for the yes,
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he's not on the names of the 796. these 3 carmel, larkin, walter, francis and p j have, or t survived the home, into the full deal for hello, hello. hello, walter, how are you? i'm with there. i just came in to add a quarter again, met them 8 years ago, shortly after the scandal made international headlines. oh, i was looking at impairments because if they could be my brothers because the age pro 5 for see if you are feeling in from a parents, i knew nothing about my mother's thing. somebody didn't tell me before he should have a p j have her to spend almost 7 years in st. mary's mother and baby home. then he was put in foster care. most of the other survivors were given up for adoption. so the kid all the off to so i was one of the lucky ones. i was lucky, i probably would use board and maybe has the baby in that and they survived. it's
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a frightening place. it's beside the said place because i could be in here is with this website and see what was going on in tomb was being practiced systematically throughout ireland. those were the findings of a report published by the irish government in 2021 and investigation into the countries 14 largest homes up to 1998. revealed that 56000 women had had their newborns taken away from them and released for adoption. the in the ultra conservative catholic ireland of the time getting pregnant out of wedlock was seen as a sin and castle pollard. there was also a catholic mother in baby home. paul redmond was born here in
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1964. the building is long empty. but the home dominates his thoughts. he wants to understand what happened to him here. that was, that was 58 years ago, was a moment. celebrate xbox, a lot of memories, because this is where i last saw my motor for the last time. i've never seen or since the more than 4500 children were born in a home in castle college. a catholic quarter of nuns ran the institution from 1935 to 1971. paul redmond's research shows that the nuns pressured the mother's into signing adoption papers for their children. paul was separated from his mother shortly after his birth and he was adopted when he was just 17 days old. it's a very mixed emotions going back here because it's very my life starts of my life
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color gone. the wall of 2 directions. one was to stay with us from the motor total was to be adult. this saw this place is like i'm a rail junction with 2 rooms or trucks and the old dry golf. the more it was all my mind. why was i given away? what happened? is there something wrong with me? he now knows that his birth mother is called adeline. she was 20 years old and, and married at the time, her parents paid the order $100.00 irish pounds to make the baby disappear. of the if you are pregnant, denied, and then you were married. then you are just a horrible sooner on the pallet and as they would do anything they called to dos, depaula issue for loss. so it's important that we remember all these things and bear with this and make sure to future generations. don't forget paul redmond has
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set up a self help group to make sure that doesn't happen. today he has arranged to meet others like himself on the side of the former home. yeah. yeah. for the 2 guys know re you good to see you guys. so you guys are saving us, my whole wants to give others the opportunity to confront their past. almost all the adopted children are trying to trace their routes. many do not know to this day who their mother was missing documents and the non stony silence also dogged lawrence cloaks attempts to trace his pass. i when i started looking and i got in touch with the nuns, and they said it's very difficult. go back and look for your mother, like because she could be anywhere in the world. that's gonna cost money because we lawrence received this letter from the religious order back then. paul reads it out to the group. this is time consuming and could be expensive. so if you want us to
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go ahead, we would need help in that area as we are in voluntary society. well, that's the strait of lloyd, and we're not voluntary safe of hearts adoptions. so as the sauce was a professional and registered agency changing baby, and they got, they got money from the government to look after. for 2 years, the nuns kept demanding money from lawrence and kept finding him off. she would from the nuns, only revealed his mother's name when he threatened to stop the payments. and when i was adopted, but i was looking to come back and find out. yeah. and the 191991 race. i found a lot about 2025 years and i finally filed another 10 years after that was a long buckle. for a long time, the survivors were unaware of the scale of this inhumane system. paul found out that almost one in 10 babies born in castle pollard, did not survive literally right between
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a need our fee stores of those $245.00 form of burials and a $150.00 still by itself is about $400.00 pages. very dear paul has written a book about ireland mother in baby homes. so being adults digital slowly, 100 percent face, which are toppling families, have the adults fully faced with charged actual fabi either because they're gone. so with the volume is be easy to over. they do sort of feel a sense of kinship. we all call one another, a creative mace. and the group is being a huge benefit for everybody. and if i people talk about the last about how has changed our lives and made them feel less lonely and give them the best sense of belonging to the survivors or yesterday's unwanted children.
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the, the mother and baby home in june was torn down in 1972. catherine corliss has a scale model of the building in her living room. the amateur historian brought the nuns appalling abuse to light. she discovered that the baby's bodies had been disposed of in a disused sewage treatment system under ground. she had uncovered one of the biggest scandals in ireland history. or when catherine confronted the authorities with what she has discovered, the stone walled, nobody wanted to hire bosses that tried everything to come out against me,
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even the paper, purple treasures, of course tried to stop me. a call recalled to counsel did everything in their power to stuff me because they knew what happened at their response, but so they did their best cover up. while homes like, shoot me, were run by catholic nuns, regional authorities were generally responsible for their supervision. one woman against the church and the state assisted in her research by her husband, aiden irish media 1st reported on the scandal in 2014. catherine began receiving threats and that is still going on to this day. but she refused to be intimidated to the interviews. i would probably got some and tyler say that i had to do this and especially when nobody was listening or want to listen is this is if i put another baby, so they become really babies to me. and just because the religious and that the work,
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the word in the parking and i put enough understand toiletries it hasn't been brought into the water, could not be in parkins. they wouldn't give the medicine, they wouldn't call a doctor. and they just let them die. i physical and to the death certificate in particular, continue to haunt catherine. some records of other mother and baby homes spacious. that's the that's for, for suffice stuff. the mother with the told us the shake of birth of the baby dies, an a set of tests that say if it may have been given to a couple from america, or are elsewhere as quite possible, that's a lot of the babies haven't died at all. the server hard, like i'm in the bus or are you said you're going with in the course of her research? catherine has made many of the survivors. her revelations have changed the lives of p. j. have her tea and carmel larkin. she's returned a piece of their identity to them and america it is for him. now he's
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a carpenter. that's where you type in bar and carmen here and then the charges you and i'll come back here. that's. that was a bit further say. and then yeah, your poor mother then after giving birth to to the left over here she was given 7 days rest with the baby. the notes the 7 days. so just and that was, it is open and do all the heavy work that's with populations. lots of some scrubbing floors student over time. yeah. birth certificates, adoption papers, letters for decades. the nuns and the adoption authorities kept all these documents under lock and key. so everybody was afraid of the police, afraid of the religion, afraid of everything, day to control on everything completely. and the effect in that they didn't want to is to new one thing and just hide over thing. it was another way of torching you. there was no investigation as to who did all of this damage while you, with the baby's pushing to adopt a lot of times you couldn't take the knowns. i'm anyways, cause they have mess up amount of money. the government even were afraid to
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confront the known sort of church. they could get a top dollar to start or celeste or in the world, not in europe. so how could you, would you compete for things that you couldn't when as no one was held responsible for the dead babies of choose the order is none that ran the home. only apologize in 2021. when the government published it's report and that report came too late for many of those affected who doubt whether the state is really interested in uncovering the truths. pga have righty is now 71. he lives just a few kilometers from to a small farm. peach . it was just under 7 when he was fostered with the stigma of being illegitimate,
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stayed with him his entire life. so when they came to my teams as the ones i've got to sort of difficult for me, then that's when i got the videos from people. they found out that i was bored notices outside of wedlock, which is a big mark to send a volume that statement, just reject you back to you and just called your names for no, actually a reason. i couldn't understand why an old that's affected me growing up at the pension the then i went to a river to do away with myself because i couldn't take any more life. life didn't look back on june and i still have that insight me all the time. like, you know, i really do. the irish government has announced compensation plans, but only those people who spent at least 6 months and a mother and baby home will be eligible. p j however t is said to receive 40000 zeros. we're going to get some peanuts. we're going to
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give them a fraction when your thing like it goes 7 years. take note of my life, locked up what i caught up for the nursing home, i presume like honest something you've taken over my life. i don't know anything about just and you must have taken away from you. that's what christ. in his early twenties, pj, i started looking for his birth mother. he asked neighbors and other locals and discovered that his mother was living in london. at 1st, they exchanged letters. then she agreed to meet him. from his mother, p. j discovered that she had never wanted to get him away. for 5 years, she had knocked at the door of the home every day. but the nuns turned her away. she loved for me, she wants to lifting farm and what she was restricted, she told me. i was delighted to know that she didn't leave me there because she didn't like me or she didn't want me, which was nice to know that she did want to make sure did over tend to get me out.
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and that was lovely like, you know, it cleaned, it took a lot of field. you know that you for jury hillman, he over the part of the human race and everything like, you know, your data from what the image and more that i need to talk to. and i think so it went to north flush north of the dublin and a cork in search goes on. she still doesn't know for sure what happened to her 2 brothers. she collects everything connected to the mother and baby homes, birth and death certificate. baptism certificates and investigation reports for search has become central to her life. and i grew up as an only child. she only discovered by chance that she had siblings after her mother's death. it's like somebody has given you a stage signs. the big wooden cudgels are
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a big wrecking ball. it takes a lot of time to process it. my mother never had told me anything about her time, interim home, people didn't discuss it because in the law, the case scenario and this was there was a lot of shame attached being in a home. and i came across a medical report in documents held by the adoption authorities. an entry about her brother john read. he was a miserable, emaciated child with a voracious appetite and no control over bodily functions. what happened to discharge from birth to 12 months that he ends up in this condition? no control over bundling functions. if john is dead, i contend he died and i'd like to him on nutrition. in 2014 and i contacted the police. john's cause of death is under investigation. for brother, william is officially classed as a missing person. on the outskirts of
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dublin, paul redmond lives with his adoptive mother. he helps look after his adoptive father, his dad. they were open about his adoption. it didn't read the kind of occurred to me, what's the top demand of to live us 7 or age. i'm gonna have a vivid memory of being in english. and then the 1st mcdonalds in ireland, which has a lot of mirrors at the time. i don't remember seeing my whole family in the queue and looking at the mirror seemed to everybody else. the family had black hair and i had red hair. so that was one. the 1st times i kind of realize that's what it really means to be adopted. and i knew what it meant to be adopted, but that was the 1st time, but really, emotionally hit me. his adoptive parents didn't know what really went on in the mother and baby homes. so they couldn't answer pose questions. i started searching as a teenager, and then i was 50. i took my bicycle,
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the side of things adult. and after looking up the address of to adoption society in the phone book, i like an absolute short to stay or nothing on top. of course they just got ready to miss pull treasure, just the result of his search. it took 25 years to track down his mother adeline. but on the telephone, she told him that she didn't want any contact. all that po has is this letter, this letter is a personal touch. it's something she wrongs it's something she touched. so it's, it's some sort of physical connection. the physical connection. it might not have a holger kiss, but at least you got something to talk to him, hold. i
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did find peace and bought a very strange sort of piece. i kind of became normal about the whole thing. you can trace and you can search and they can do this. you can how so the government from mountains of paperwork going to the end of the day. you cannot make somebody want that relationship with you. it has to be their choice. but just like to paint floyd solved to die house, be calm calls to believe no, unfortunately the obvious which has to stay comfortably more. there's no more p j have or tea was at least able to meet his birth mother. i talked to him that day on life once we had the ice broken and we had met with neat again. unfortunately, life doesn't work that way. it didn't go that way. decades of separation cannot be
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put aside just like that. peter, his mother didn't want to interfere in his life and avoided further contact. 35 years passed before the 2 of them saw each other again. his mother was 88 and no longer recognized her son. she died shortly afterwards. the only thing is i thought the reason, because when i talk to northwest survivors, i've never met them. i don't know for them. other even is so for me to free my mother, that was a big thing. and not knowing that then, but to be able to go to a funeral and see how be led to rest. so i can conclude said to myself, i've everybody okay man, i've got that much more that signal because of now p j would like to find the last piece and the person who was his biological father. he hopes
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a dna test will shed light on that. catherine cordless is helping him who just show you the issues. it's like technical. if a test page you go with all the tests do, puts us into the cost difficult codes. the you stop talking because advise you if dna records of even a distant relative of his fathers are held anywhere, p j will know more to coat the whole truth and nothing. oh says catherine gets enquiries from all over the world. she looks for names and contact details of survivors, relatives with the help of dna test results and online databases. i faded gold if like the answers for them. it's the same thing as to beat the system. a lot of those people who are born in the home,
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they are not allowed to see their own records, see who their mother is older father is that information belongs to the fish and that's a social world. i get a good feeling if i find something for that family, they're so happy. there's still a time for i've changed their life. and what more could i ask? the results from pj's dna test will take a few weeks to arrive. paul redmond is concerned with one question above all. why didn't his mother try to trace him? not only the long silence of the state and the church are to blame. over the years, a kind of our borrower saw a lot of the monitors. i'd be told that it was a terrible more to say to reconcile our have a reunion with our child that was drilled into them into boulder and baby helps. i live with something that really stays with monitors. because a more to say it was tossed the worst of the worst. i mean
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a rags up. there were bird or am. and if you come in or more to said, due to how for all the time to see it changed my perspective on my natural mother by making me realize that she missed the fact that we were both victims and survivors in the way as well. in 2018 pope francis visited ireland. as a survivor, paul was invited to an audience with the pontiff. he asked the pope to set the record straight about models in all the time. many single mothers were told not to see that children, but this was a multiple st. i'm also saying irish adoption agencies saw a sudden jump in the number of tracing requests after the pope's announcement. i'm afraid of all the teams. we see that's the wall and the kind of stays with me the
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most and some ways of being door monitors and adopt these and all corners violent. and they'd be living in shame and fee or of silence for turkey. 145060 years old vibes of 5 lead the pope hive of such a free of all this nonsense. now what is it the square your stuff in your is the baby holds. have a sense the ignored want, the pulp said they haven't taken the responsibility to have and offer to to call attribute towards re dress for some i verse paul's battle continues. he wants the irish government to pay compensation to all survivors, regardless of how long they were in the homes. he plans to go to the country supreme court if necessary. anna is still waiting for answers about what really happened to her brothers john and williams. i'm
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hoping that they do find my brother. i mean we're getting older and 67 this year. so my brother's into a seventy's so time is running else and there's more of the glimmer of hope there. this is and i was time needs and we may not want to know me, but i just want to say so your life you survived. you don't like may's look like do i wish you a very happy days? if you don't want to know, i'm just please leave, turn that letter for you. if you do want to know i'd be over the amount of bringing home a, introduce you to your nieces and nephews, a show you my show you where i live, bring use the countryside, show you where a mother was from, bring it to where she's buried. let's say they knew a piece and you can send me the piece for me. the, the government has now announced it will have the remains in june exhumed. perhaps
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this will give and a certainty about the fate of both of her brother's p . j search also still goes on the dna test, didn't provide any leads about his father's identity. i have names being told to me like, but to really find those would be lovely. but for the all the survivors, you know, my outstanding goes out to them. the silicon model is that what they're still looking for, their sons and daughters want to know where they are just to hold them because of the change. and hopefully one day that's what happened the of the
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