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resistance, these people who, you know, put their children out these weights. they say, well, if you want to stay, stay but send your kids to safety. and now the government is taking that next step and is, you know, giving no choice to those parents. thank you. so much for as always, that is nick connelly reporting from keith. and that's our new show. i'm clear. richardson in berlin, thank you so much for watching the can you hear the we are all set. we are watching close all the to bring you the story behind the new your own about on volume information for free might do to name the image and how many portions of love us turn out in the world. climate change. the
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story faces much less the way from just one week. how much was getting ready to get we still have time to act. i'm going to like this the this is an unusual protest. every weekend at 11 protesters and the southern african nation of mozambique took to the streets to demand justice from germany. the so called much a minus toiled as contract workers and former east germany, but they never received the full wages to this always. yeah, but we're still waiting for an answer his, where's our money? where's our money is on? is that again? the,
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the big demonstration is about to start as it does every wednesday. everyone knows each other here, the majority of those major minus the german garden in the middle of moves and beach capital photo. but above all, this is a meeting place for those who spend time in germany, or more precisely, a former east germany. the period left its mark on them and to this day to keep its memory alive and speak german among themselves. so as to not forget the guy's machine under the pseudo things a la carte, as a monument, a german, as i called here. the measurement community has been united for more than 30 years, demonstrating for the rights since the early 19 ninety's. this did not go down love with the state, especially in the beginning. there was at least one fatality among the
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demonstrators shot by the police. today a stone commemorates him, a time in germany, also safety studios life. he mentioned the treaty or 1980 when he was just 19 mine for me. the finding my family was not pleased because i was so young about this but times were so hard. i just want to get out of most i may try to like there was no life here, just chaos that i said this and it was a difficult time for mozambique having just one independence from portugal in 1975, a bloody civil war broke out shortly. after anti communist rebels faced off against the socialist government, by some more am, let's say it's michelle. michelle and east german liter ada konica came to a cooperative agreement and 1979, which we settled thousands of months them beacons to the g d. r for laborers were urgently needed. barely lived in tower blocks and outlining districts with little contact to the german population. but they receive training and work sometimes in
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industry, often simply in a slaughterhouse. the problem was that a large part of their wages weren't withheld. they were told the officially that they would receive the remainder when they returned to their homeland. but in fact, the money went towards servicing was in big statue the g d r. the contract workers knew nothing of this and never received their money. from 17000 people are still waiting for their wages. the newest game was almost everyone in the world to see is the communities as the and we want the world to see that we have never received our phone. hey, for the work i did an east germany, i can connect kind of, i am not near the i. e, we were exploited like modern day slaves with bad news is crowd. this is why i'm approved to every wednesday at 1132 to the streets winding through the city center. the police stay back even blocking a few streets to prevent accidents. relations between the modern miners and the
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police were not always so good. they demonstrate and dance, demanding justice. the ministry of labor on the corner of karl marx avenue marks the end of the demonstration. the protesters demand to finally be paid for the work and address not only germany, but also the most in beacon government, which is not exactly popular with most much a minus. the larger miners have not been especially well licensed, their return. they are seen by many as being relatively affluent and having lived a comfortable life abroad during the civil war, still the regular demonstrations have ensured that they are not forgotten. the, the especially since considerable amounts of money are involved,
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each person is likely owed the equivalent of several $1000.00 euros. that is a lot of money, even though the country has a strongly growing economy and a norm as other potential tourism. for example. on the other hand, mozambique is a very fragile state, one of the poorest countries in the world today. the town of so an east drum and toner. india was nearly 9000 kilometers to the north. and the g. diarra simpson motorcycles were produced here with a reputation for being strong, durable, and reliable. the state combine has been closed since the fall of communism. young people still res. here on simpsons, the at the most would be a dodge while worked here for many years. he was one of them, 2000 contract workers who remained in germany rather than returning home. he now
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works for the protestant church, and so the leno supervisor, group of 240 mozambique and contract workers employed here in motorcycle production . 200 men, 40 women thought this is skip boy, the lessons of this building here was the personnel department. this. why then? the business of title and contain was over their cups and rotten spices, spices obviously on it. everyone's thoughts and 8 together there without any problems. awesome. he says, i haven't, i didn't use the title company as group leader jones job was mainly to translate ensure discipline and make sure that the production schedule was met. but the deductions from their wages were also recurring. issue at 1st $25.00 and later as much as 60 percent was withheld and supposed to be transferred to an account in mozambique events we described move on gov that were
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often problems with the wages. and this is for the se, apart from the 610 percent reduction, or the sentence. and okay, you talked with someone to soon as you calculated how much you worked for dental and tools and how much was the doctor for mozambique a spend? whichever still 5 mark stuart, it's up in the sun is beautiful. then i went to the office with the pace a sometimes with the employee concerned colleague and that was part of my job too. and. and so you don't get on the floor of my mind. all 5 of the trial was unaware that the withheld wages were secretly being used to service mozambique steps to the g d r. rather than being transferred to the workers. despite the promises that the contract workers were getting rich, they could see that there was nothing in their accounts nor have their pension contributions ever been recognized. the draw was calling on the german government to cooperate with most and beacon to find a solution and compensate the major minus it as
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a matter of historical responsibility in the german parliament and berlin. opinions differ as to whether germany is really duty bound on this issue. best 80 victims commissioner evening sutka looks for parliament to look after the interest of those wronged in the g d. r. that includes the modern minus 2 says yes, germany should pay just think of those thoughts and i'm his to was a, from germany has a historical responsibility to the full members. i'm be can contract work. cuz even though, because the injustice took place on john minnesota on the gestures which have so far been made and also not for the service was born in the early 19 ninety's, germany paid around $75000000.00 euros for the modern minus. but the money apparently found its way into the pockets of corrupt politicians and mozambique. no one knows it's paid for sure. plus minus of 10 ton is of mine as this, in my opinion. and my we have to determine what kind of one time payment we can
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make to the form a contract work on this box up to express our gratitude to them. the thought uh, fox and the item. it's any of them have already done it on living in difficult circumstances that even even into kevin talk. soon, evident zip code is confident that a solution to the much a minus issue will be found by the end of the current legislative term. the policy cannot answer all the questions, the 20 feet. there is a musician he plays in a band and sometimes on the street like here in the northern german town of hill this time the most because my music is my life. so to here we talk about it as if life is good, name is good. one thing has been bothering penny for the last year. she hardly knows anything about his father. only that it came from mozambique and was
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a contract worker and that you d. r. a manager man. his mother is durham and such relationships with strictly forbidden. now, in his early thirties, benny grew up with his mother and not to know. at age for a west, german family adopted him and he moved to hill the time. he says he had a happy childhood and for a long time didn't ask about his biological father to sit there. and i wrote for us to just mention, and that's when you already look different and you find a way to belong to your wordpress, to things that can take that away from you. if you end up going in sound good. yeah, i never really felt the need to search for my roots, but that's totally changing now is one of them. i think it's a tough and not an emptiness inside me. that i have to feel the need to know who i am most visiting. very. it's been very fee, there is now searching intently for his father withheld from an $8.00 organization . it is not an easy task because all we have is a photo of scene for to watch the picture. he's standing
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by a white to pick up outside the travel agency where he worked and the tutor, the auburn, texas, isaac. this is the only picture i have of him. there is nothing else. very few. there is not an isolated case manager on his father's an estimate of 2000 children in germany. only rarely is there any contact for various reasons. he often thinks about his father and wonders where he is. some 100 minus living and mozambique today would also like to have contact with our children in germany. my toola an hours drive from a photo zulu things on my car, who demonstrates every week lives here with his wife and son. she's kept all that day to day items that remind him of his time in germany. duty are chairs and beard losses included in an album with photos from back then. you know with that to me with my son over on for one legal father,
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3 children in germany, but he was no longer in contact with them, nor with his german girlfriend from those days defended me thinking that i missed my kids a lot that i did that specially on their birthdays and when i looked at the pictures underneath this, they said to be the now and i hope i can see them again some day. i do see the thing one thing is especially important to julio mozambique in germany. sure. a chapter in history, one that has left its mark on the more disappointing message here, that even 30 years later, the modern minus and most in peak are still waiting for their wages the
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that's okay. that's the nanda foundation. one book sitting on, find out about robina story in some language, reliable news for migraines, wherever they may be. scoggins are waiting there waiting for thousands of tons of vile aids stuck at the russell border. crossing with egypt. 20 trucks were supposed to be let in on friday, but so far, water, food, and medicine are still being held up. the head of the when called the supplies a lifeline, and the fact that they were still unable to reach their destination heartbreak. scoggins are also bracing themselves the racing for what seems to be an imminent ground defensive find. these really army troops stationed at the border will told
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they'd soon see gaza from the inside. all seem said for the incursion to start. the question is, how will it and i'm gonna go for the kimberline and this is the day the what they do is on human it's a crime against humanity of disease. no man, no mistake. we need to eliminate the threats. we need to eliminate thomas ice. this is what it is to my certainly i'm at some point because like the power done been what it can do and what they can do. and we can do almost everything they wants to suck his round fruitful, twice in the area that draws a lot of attention to the post post. i hope things will be very short, very focused, very effective. they will face surprise, full describe,
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welcome to the show. first, some goodness, almost 2 weeks after israel stuff or the worst terror attack, and it's history and over 200 people were abducted to gaza. a mazda has released to american women on japan and terry in grounds. they say much need a glimmer of hope for a country reeling from trauma. meanwhile, no good news at ga, the us border with egypt, despite an agreement to open the roof or crossing to allow a limited amount of humanitarian aid and to the enclave. supplies remained caught up today, the head of the un visited rafa, calling it's opening a matter of life and they are ready and waiting. the percentage of these 8 trucks is supposed to be allowed through the roof of crossing the only crossing into gaza. not controlled by his wheel. 20, you know,
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a trucks for garza. 2 and a half 1000000 people need assistance. 20 trucks is dropped in the ocean of need right now. i'm guessing. on the other side of the roof, a crossing there is may him and despair. even if southern gaza is where it is, we all told the northern guidance to go for safety sake. heavy air strikes and con eunice in the south, and then the overflowing nicer hospital took in even more wounded for critical care . there's no safety. there's no way to say thank god, so how does it so you have to be ready to dine and to just stay in your house with us will be when there is a threats originating or uh, being conducted against israel from the south. and we will strike absolutely is wheels. army will soon move into the gaza strip. is real, as defense minister told the troops massing on its border, oh my god,
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i promise you that whoever sees guys are now from a far will see it from the inside. pretty much all and is really ground operation will likely focus at 1st on the north with some us expected to put a fierce resistance. all of that, pushing even more dozens southward in need of food, water, medical supplies, and back on the other side of the roof, a crossing aid supplies stream into a nearby airport, destined to joined the backup, waiting to get into southern gaza. for more we can now speak to frank language. he's a senior elector in strategic studies at portsmouth university and the former u. k. military intelligence officer joins us from oxford tonight. frank, good to see you again. now since october 7, the is really army has killed several members of homos top commanding brass. how much of a blow is that for the tower group? it's nicole. good evening. they've killed about 6 or 7 major leaders and
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operationally, i suspect it won't have decisive effect because need is always replaceable. and we filed that ourselves while dealing with the tell about a did the stomach state no, no 10 irreplaceable. however, i think down at the top to the level to come by level, what will be happening is people be asking, who can i trust? is really seem to be getting so pretty senior people, how they finding them. is it to try to is, is it through tech, so to intercept, so that's expensive. be so difficult, and cutting away more all, i think. but how mazda isn't quite open about their commanders getting killed? why is that? because as you said, they presumably risk looking week at the it's posit come, but they will an upset losses. uh with some pride, i suspect these become bosses and heroes to that cause i don't think that. so i think that starting over the circumstances that were billing, obviously with pride,
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how much has released to hostages today, reportedly onto monetary and grounds after guitar and mediation. do you think this is a one off or could we be seeing a major breakthrough here? i don't think it's a one of this would be a strategic negotiating task on the one hand and a propaganda propaganda efforts on the other. he said it's worth mentioning by the way that the stomach lowest got a settled, but women and children should never be home and preferably should not be held as hostages. so this with these can be used, i suppose, to establish some kind of legitimacy. but, but of course that's, that's just propaganda. what's happening here is a negotiating tactic. and we'll see, i think several more of these releases to remind the world of who they have and what can happen if uh, if that if there are demands on that. yeah. negotiating tactic to what and because the timing here is interesting, isn't it?
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could this be an attempt of saving off israel's and now it's grown offensive? i don't think so. and if there's such an attempt, it's going to fail the i know, i don't think many of us expect the defensive to cost before before. now, closer all the political visits and stuff will put in one sense. israel has the up on the, it's got the wait time, the longer it holds off, the longer it has time to build up. it's picture, the battlefield is setup. it's intelligence framework and it's targeting. and there's nothing that they come us can do to to delay that. mm hm. let's talk about the ground offense. if that does seem imminent, how mosse is hiding in civilian infrastructure in a sophisticated tunnel system while holding. all of these is really an international hostages over 200 at this point. how does the idea of plan on going about this incursion? so there's a huge amount of assistance, like, i think they, they, they have probably, well, the leading capabilities in hostage identification location. and rescue,
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the idea will be to get what, what a cool trick us on, on, and each, each hostage of a certain groups that will know a certain groups of us intelligence. the huge us intelligence infrastructure is now directed towards this as well. and it's, i think it's in the ultimate certainly isn't the open source is that us special forces are on the spot too. so the 1st problem, of course, is to locate the hostages. and the 2nd problem, the most serious one i think, or even more serious here, is to get people in and get them out. and those efforts will stop if they haven't started already up very soon. and we will see results, but softly it's, it's, i think in fairness, it's a, it's a long stretch top, but they will cut out. but not all the efforts of these really commendable is really intelligent system plus the us and i suspect the u. k. job. any funds on others? i'll focus on this problem now, and that's a pretty formidable, right? yeah. at both how i'm us and israel have not been oblivious to what's been
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happening in ukraine in the past year and a half. how could that influence the current conflict between them as considerably, both sides been watching, particularly the developments and body 2 into 2 elements 1st and the at the tone will, will be very intense in, in, in, in, in, cause. i suspect it is what it is. so just as i said before, we'll have to look up, they'll be looking up on the uh, watching for stripe drones, suicide, drones and the costs, but for surveillance. and he's ready to be using drugs and any data on a like directed drugs as you see or beginning to see actually in your grade as well . so there's that aspect to precision artillery. very important. we haven't seen too much of that yet, but we will. so far we've seen era at, at take the take the lead in precision strike, but i'll tell her will be
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a major factor. but it goes to elements in gaza. totally different. not least the, the nature of the bottle is totally open. and of course, the tunnel systems and the fact that her mosse knows the grounds so much better then the idea of how big of a complicating factor could that be, is a pretty, pretty considerable. the idea, of course, the house has not every square centimeter of costs over the last 20 years. well, it's in theory, know it well, but you're quite right doctor. in some local knowledge is very important. is it decisive? now? there is another aspect i think, which is good it's, it's rather unpalatable, but it's not the less significant. it's right or so just want to survive from us tyrus, i'm not interested one, mind the other. and that's what it is that human element, which will undoubtedly what the detriment of many people will increase casualties. and finally, of course, how much stuff that weapon of, of the many,
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thousands of human sales they are holding. not just the hostages, but their own people on the political effect interrupted by that, that killing. yeah, i mean the world has been watching in horror really, to the, the deteriorating situation of innocent civilians in gaza. and that is even before this ground defensive has even started a how can, how my guess, as well as the idea of go about accomplishing their goals while respecting international humanitarian law, which both warring parties are obligated to abide by it may be obligated to abide by says indeed, the only one size making the slightest effort to do so. we have to draw that bright white line between deliberate feeling on inadvertence, inadvertent killing, uh, the, on the idea of come on this understand fully the effect of, of, of the destruction of human life in a situation like this. and when people do die,
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you can be sure that whether this compassion or not is why they come on this. obviously it didn't because i understand the political effect more widely of this and effected my telephone into us, particularly locally. i want to say, look, i mean in the region, of course from homicide. the more throughout people are killed from that perspective. the better on $0.01 is was walking into a truck that has no choice. there's no, no, no alternative, i think for this route to do this. but it is, this is, this is the situation home us wanted as the situation to which is riley to, to kind of to, to solve. that was frank let, which thank you so much. always great speaking to you. thank you to call the israel is planning to evacuate. the city of curious, shown on the following days of classes with has bullfighters along the border with lebanon. the city is home to 20000 people and is just 2 kilometers from the border
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. is really, authorities have been steadily evacuating communities along the northern frontier. the need a goldstein have driven up the k. yep. simona to pick up the father level to take, give south and out of range of rockets 5 across the border by his beloved. so my father is revealing that that's one of which i can fix on may take it to, to my home and try survive. this is why they're leaving sirens. wail is a power outage of rocket streets towards israel from 11 on to yet shimoda has already been hit by those munitions. yeah, i me say it's time to go because this kind of about to ation allows
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b i d f to expand this operation of freedom to act against the hezbollah, terrorist and civil people. many residents have in fact already left before the enforced evacuation for the confident no return or actually the situation he's here right now, is there a difficult, like my brother say, what you know, what we're going to in? no one is can be tough. that's it. no one is can be done. this is not all over the world. they don't understand. you're going to fight and fight on residents splitting the law. so now joining tens of thousands of israelis who have left the homes in the south near a gaza smoke. another front and the fast of open conflict between israel and tomas is the one found online. this information is running rampant across social media. we're millions turn to get real time updates. i'm at the very real image or floods of fabricated
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videos and photo spread by both fake and real accounts. the companies behind joins like facebook acts and tech talks. they. they've taken additional steps to tackle this information around the violence, but the eu has reprimanded social media companies for not doing enough and about all that. we can now speak to caitlin tend rosman. she's with the center for strategic and international studies or see research as the impact of technology and geo politics and society caitlin, good to see here. lots of people these days, getting their information on social media with tensions running so high. are these platforms equipped to bear the responsibility that entails? thanks nicole. first of all, no, i don't think that platforms are equipped to bear the responsibility of content moderation. and there's a reason why they, you has already reached out to ext meta and tech talked about all of this information and harmful content that.

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