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or the general, or secretary general called for an immediate humanitarian ceasefire in gaza. antonio gutierrez, so it'd be october 7th. the tax on his really civilians by him off were appalling. but he added those attacks did not happen in a vacuum. and he said they could not justify the collective punishment of the palestinian people. those words did not bring about a ceasefire. they did draw all the i are of these real, it's you and basset, or tweeting the head of the you. when should result? i'm bridge off in berlin. this is the day the we are in a war between barbarism it's, it was it to tell you the truth. so i went through a hell we never imagined or sort possible. it is important. we also recognize the effects by miles the lot happened in the box. we are here today to
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stop the killing. the stop, the mass that goes being committed against the furthest young people. no party to a non conflict, is above international humanitarian law. secretary general walk won't be lead. definitely. this is no. i will also coming out to the us, sending military advisors to is real ahead. they've been expected ground defensive in goss. uh, what i can tell you is that, um, that there are a few is relevant military officers with experienced the kinds of experience that uh, that uh, that we believe it is. it is appropriate to the sorts of operations that, that israel is conducting and may conduct in the future or to our viewers watching
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on tv, as in the united states and to all of you around the world. welcome. we begin today with a reminder that a civilian is a civilian, is a civilian. those were the words on tuesday of us, secretary of state, anthony blink, and add a us security council meeting. and he was referring to the $10000000.00 plus palestinians inside the gaza strip, who are now caught in a war between israel and the terrorist group home us. we thing called on all countries to send to you monetary, to aid to gaza. and he called on her moss to stop using civilians in gaza as human shields. he also called on him off to release the hostages some 200 people who were kidnapped on october 7th. a 1400 people were killed that day, making a most responsible for the deadliest single attack on jews since the holocaust. the horrors carried out that day they are coming to light more and more case in point. the is rarely could but spare. it was one of the 1st communities attacked by him us
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and it became the scene of mass murder. the w use max sanders reports security is tyson keyboards, barry today, but it's done on the morning of october 7th. the army was nowhere to be seen. the more than 1000 people living here were among the 1st to be attacked by how much fighters of the realm to keep boots for hours firing machine guns, grenades, rocket launchers, how much lead terrace moved from house to house over hours killing civilians were taking them hostage to date this keyboards, this deserted all. what's left are burnt, destroyed houses, and a community in ruins of you know, these are illegal sorties. want the world to see this and hear from people who are there. they burn the house on the smoke them out. and when they finally opened the
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doors, because it was grieved and decided who's, who's to live boosted rami gold, was part of a small group defending the cubes. he said they fired till they ran out of bullets . and i gotta tell the story because 2 angels came to people. some reserve soldiers have no idea where they came from, the us ever so munition and a cell phone. so we can pull the families that tell them where we are. okay. and we kept them going and kept on fighting. it was dark. seeing you on your right. when the fighting stopped. emergency responders, looking for survivors, found scenes of horror, which is open the stomach, what small children, a boy and a girl. hand side to the back and tortured. and i'll say torture now. yes. i'll say the father was without they took out his i. the mother was a breast was cut off and while the children were really
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attacked and they at the middle and eating the food of the how of different holiday holiday meal that this, this, this of this family was suppose the physical evidence of what happened at places around the country it arrives here and it makes shift. morgan central is real. these are some of the up to 200 unaccounted for. people more are still being found . we are working the night shift and shift, trying to identifying every agent, every one. this is hard because people were disfigured, mutilated burned. we are here doing what we're doing because we're thing. this is a whole emission for us identifying the last casualties and
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all of the civilians that the got killed is so in florida it's for us. we want to give them their final respect families waiting to bury their dead. and those who saw what happened or angry, as well as the raft. at the boots, barry from us killed more than 100 people around 10 percent of the community for rami gold, whose sister in law was killed that morning. there can only be one response. israel must completely destroy garza name of the terrible mistakes there. heard of this very bad the damage the will. so for the even worse and the idea isn't it will never think of of doing that again. if this the only way we can live together by them understanding that it can do it to center, emergency respond or ya see land. we saw the horse. that's how most cannot be part
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of the future. we went through a lot with through the holocaust. we went through a lot, it will be strong. the world is supporting us. yes, we want that piece. that's a very important thing to piece. yes. but not with home us. peace seems a far away prospect here and the ruins of keep with spinning. we're going to go to israel now and i'd like to bring in the tall the hard to she and a friend where the target of a home us miss chevy attack back in 2010. her friend was murdered. tall was severely wounded, but she did survive since that she's dedicated herself to the fight against terrorism and the calls for peace. it's good to have you with this, tonight's tall or we just saw a report i knew you were watching with this um, from the side of the massacre at keyboards, barry, i mean that's the only one of the atrocities committed by her boss that day. how
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wounded is the is really nation at this moment, a well social rent. i want to thank you for having me on your show. i know such a, extend my gratitude and the gratitude of another 9000000. this really is because you're one of the only tv channels now who are still calling, how much terrorists still covering. actually what's happening in israel rather than the focused spin entirety of pulling the gaza. how the way i'll tell you how wounded we are. we are a nation traumatized and i mean you'll nation knows very well. germany knows very well germany as of one of our greatest allies today. uh with that it's no secret that this is the biggest atrocity protocol on jewish people since the holocaust. so we're still shut the ring from this. we haven't even located or where everybody is . we still have 40 people missing. now either there she's in some field in his room or that will show him in gas a still have babies, toddlers, children, women,
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and men. taking a hostage. we haven't yet identified old to bury are that we are traumatized nation and i'll tell you something, friend, something else. it's like an earthquake, right. and you have to be asked the shocks. what is the asked the shops? it's like i indicated a little bit earlier. the of the shock is this, that main street west and media yourselves exempt. of course, the most western media uh quote in how much milton so as to feed the see says i called the organizes and it's almost like a, even the united nations secretary general today made an absolutely outrageous speech that responded with are of and busted to the you and responded that he should be fired immediately. issue resign because he said that he said, these atrocities don't happen in a vacuum. meaning, uh, what is your called
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a success? somehow the heading babies and the writing of dead corpses is linked to to my eyes because just as the federal victims, it's when the time is told and people is it which it does the feel like. yeah. let me tell you something else. and then i'll of, i'll ask okay, but my go to practice, i went through so much and i've got a lot to say ok i, i want to be this i, i, i was stopped 13 times with the maturity. all right, i watch my christian friend hacked to death because they're executing this thought she was jewish. i lost my health, i lost my friend, i lost the dignity to provide for my slip, so sleep monday and everything. but i didn't take out my frustrations, perhaps some roads probably come up and have them to death. this isn't excusable people are setting the boss. so the palestinians, and it's inexcusable. and i, and 9000000 of that is riley. so absolutely raging. not about this. i know you're angry, but i want you to know that you've spent a part of your life working to bridge the gaps between israelis and palestinians.
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that said, what is your reaction to the fact that no palestinian leaders have found it in themselves to condemn the mos atrocities? well, i'm not really surprised and thank you. remind in your view is because i always try to remember to say that it was a muslim section. you saved my life. i probably have more policy new friends than most is riley. so i know it's just because of missouri. i managed to differentiate between evolution. good after the attack, i'm not surprised. told that no published in young leaders have refused to to condemn this. i mean, so yes, this is a saw point. my been speaking around the world about this. so use the european governments in the american government have been farmed in the palestinian authority with billions of bureaus. and it, by the way, the attacks on the october, the 7th would just pass those sections of the piano,
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who also joined the piano and come to come under the auspices of the mood to pass the palestinian on thursday. and much more to best take some european euros, and he is rewarded in the people who attacked me and murdered my friend with a monthly salary while they're in prison was always, he's going to in quite a give people incentive to murder. we shouldn't be surprised that he's not going sick with all. i have to say we do, we don't have a way of verifying what you're saying there about where the money goes. i just want to make that clear. do you understand the concerns that are being expressed to is real from its friends about the scale of israel's response in god? a no, absolutely no. and i tell you why because people always say we want to propulsion, you need to respond proportionately. and i say, i say personally, hasn't forbid that we would respond proportionately because that would mean we would have to the head, the exact same amount of babies. we would have to write the exact same amount of
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women. we would have to broaden the exact same amount of promising in families sitting peacefully in the homes. we do not want to per portion of response. we need a disproportionate response. and therefore, israel is called the to the northern part of gas, or at the moment we have tapped from buildings. we've distributed leaflets in arabic saying, go south, we've extended off that line from it's 10 days since we gave the war. think people have had plenty of time to cross those few miles into the south and it's very interesting. it's only recently the egypt save above it to open the board. just a humanitarian i. well, most think bread we have. we have a humanitarian crisis here. we have over 100000 people who have to leave their homes from the north and the south. they're living in the hotels. they're living in my back yard to live in every way. no one's talking about the humanitarian aid, colorado that is coming to disrupt the compulsion. let's keep it or get to who
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started this with the salvage rate. so what did you say then to the birds from the us, secretary of state anthony blinking knob he visited is real immediately after the these attacks. and he said that the middle east has a choice of the hate. the deal isn't offered by him boss or the people working together for peace and stability. is that, i mean, i could sense the anger that you're carrying right now. it means if it isn't even thinking about piece right now, is that possible? no, absolutely, no. i know people say, oh, the innocent guy since the vineyards, of course, they're innocent civilians, but we seek for each now of hundreds of innocent civilians who followed these savages into my people sent me into occupancies newton dead for this. we hear radio, we saw a mobile phone close recorded by these terrace, calling the solve this from jewish phones and the parents and getting them on one
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guys. one subject you said, oh i moved it, 10 people with my own hands and the mom and dad be innocent civilians a sudden. yea, and also i go to remind you of course are innocent civilians, but let's not forget the thousands of innocent guides and civilians. these re st paul to so $911.00, the same thousands of innocent guides and civilians who dish out can be every time a jewish men, jews, jewish fuss and his mother. i have protest, indian friends, i have a friend or 2 in gaza, right? they've done nothing wrong by heart rate's for them. it really does, but my hot breaks my own people and you're talking about, you know, innocent civilians. these people are getting the cop large for full. so allowing, like, how do you say, well, i'm doing the hundreds of thousands of humanitarian night that israel has been given to dallas for the last decade or so. let me ask you a boy. now, these people never did anything wrong. this close to copy paste would come us,
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and these people vote to come, by the way. well, before we've been out of town, let me just ask you, then what has to happen for peace to be achieved in your opinion? i mean i, i know you agree with what you're, you're hearing from benjamin netanyahu that hamas has to be destroyed. but do you think that's the only thing that has to happen before you can have peace with the pills telephones? it's a very good question. listen after the attack, a few years ago i, i contacted a young palestinian man, and i said, let's make, let's make the world better place what do you want to do? and we told so we set up a little after school club and the refugee can teach in, published in children english and computer skills. so they could betcha that large . now cause he could never say that because his own people would murder him for that. have been normalization this with that. you. all right, so what needs to happen? first of all, regarding your pin in america,
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you need to completely withdraw any fund into the palestinian authority because they all stayed in money from their own people, the squander and poverty. you see and gaza is because there are people that own leadership of stolen that get rid of that leadership. let's look for fresh leadership. all right? unless no bill kind of have you said story, i and rainbows that oh we need this rounds and unicorns these people. a lot of these people have been fed hatred in the united nations or in the rest schools in gaza. with the curriculum specifically teaches young palestinian children to hate jews. and i believe that international choir to the lots of under a certainty now in the united nations follow in this outrages justification of the slow trick. my people, the problem is not with israel. the problem is with these big organizations and the money that stream it into the promising unit, promising you know, thursday. unfortunately, we're out of time carl onto if we appreciate you sharing your thoughts and your
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passion with our viewers tonight. thank you. thank you, brent way hurting goes ahead. we thank you for supporting this rope or the response to the how mazda attacks is real, called. the $360000.00 reserve is now that figure amounts to 4 percent of the country's population. it has also been massing forces close to gaza. israel says that it will destroy him off and has a signal began, and again that it was sending troops to carry out that task. because it is one of the most densely populated places on the planet fighting there is predicted to be very hard and costly ahead of the ground operation and gaza. the us is sending military advisors to is reopened. here's white house and security spokesman john kirby. uh, what i can tell you is that, um, that there are a few relevant military officers with experience. the kinds of
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experience that uh, that uh, that we believe it is. it is appropriate to the sorts of operations that, that is real is conducting and may conduct in the future. to go over there to share some perspectives from their own experience and to ask the hard questions. the same hard questions that we've been asking of or is really counterparts since the beginning. all right, i'm gonna take this now over to brad bowman. he's with the foundation for defense of democracies. it's good to see you again. brad, among the military advisors that are going over, i understand one is maureen, lieutenant general james glenn, who he has experience why the against as lubbock state, he served in felicia interact one of the bloodiest organ battles in recent history . all of that considered what kind of expertise can be us offer is real here. as you know, the israel, israel has a formidable military. it's the best,
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the most effective military in the middle east. but the united states has a lot of experience in the middle east to to say the least, the over the last 20 years after 911. and you have a gentleman, such as the marine car, lieutenant general, who spent many years fighting and some of the toughest places, a lot of back to kind of urban warfare where there are lessons that were learned at great cost. great human costs are they can be shared with our is really allies to help them accomplish their objectives of at the lowest cost to them. do you think the us believes these really have a properly conceived, well thought out plan to enter guns, and i think after the october 7 terror attack and in your previous guess, that helps to your viewers kind of understand some of the anger that i'm also hearing from his release, which is understandable, right there was some sort of combination. i think for them of pearl harbor $911.00 on a per capita terms. it was roughly called on to 40 or 50000 americans dying,
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roughly 13 to 14 times more americans and died. and 911, but these tears didn't come from afghanistan. they came from a mile to a wayne, crashing into their living rooms, doing horrible things. and so there's, there's great anger and his role, and that's understandable. they want, they want to defend their military. but saying you're going to destroy him off and doing it or to wildly different things. yeah. and after you destroy them, what comes next? israel doesn't want to occupied garza so if you're not going to occupy it who's going to rule? there are very tough questions that need to be answered, but right now israel just wants to prevent the october 7th from happening again. yeah. and if you, if you go in and how clear does your objective appear to be, i mean it to the and trained to lie to people looking from the outside. israel's objective of destroying home us seems to be more of a desire than a clear objective. how did, how do you see? yeah, no, you know that we have something you else called the, the wind burger doctor, the power doctor. and it's, it's
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a list of questions you asked before starting and military conflict. and, and one of those questions is, you know, what's your exit strategy, right? and so, you know, we call that a phase for operating. what do you do after you, you compress your military objectives, but to accomplish your military objectives. and one of the most dense environments on earth urban environments, with many, many miles of underground tunnel stocked with weapons that enable a mouse fighters to survive bombardment and conduct surprise attacks many of their arsenal stored under hospitals and schools. they know that territory, you're literally talking about block by block building by building room by room fighting, and then you have to hold that ground once you have it. right. and then you're looking at a counter insurgency. so this is as general patricia said, the initially difficult was his quote, i think he's exactly right and you speak from experience. and so i think what israel's looking at right now is maybe just focused on northern gaza and transforming northern gaza. and then maybe stop there is because they are looking at other one of their eyes at has belong to north, right?
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wondering whether when they get bogged down in gaza is has blog and they come in and their major way in the north. a. do you think that's the, that's a big worry to among us military advisors at israel is going to find itself with a multi front more? yes, absolutely. that's the, the, the us as an extraordinary combat power in the last couple of weeks to the middle is to carrier strike groups a marine expeditionary unit, f, fifteens f, sixteens f 35, a tons, air missile defense units. the list goes on and on the, and present by the looks and the cameras secretary awesome, looks like i'm says don't, don't. who's talking to talking about a ron in his chair puppet has blog to try to prevent a another front in israel's, nor not to mention the west bank which can light up as well. let me ask you before we run out of time, we've got about a minute, a minute, minute and a half the us. we know it's a thing ukraine. we talked about that before. it's also keeping an eye on china. and it's now competing. we bought to aircraft carriers to israel's defense in the
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mediterranean, or in the gulf region is there is a danger of the us military overreach here. no, i think in this moment there's a danger of under reach. i think if we don't deployed combat power, now we're going to have a smaller problem become a bigger problem, thereby site the enough more resources. so this is the danger. here's american weakness, not strength. and the endo pacific commander. recently, at the pentagon podium said, not a single asset has been pulled from the in the pacific for this, this fight. so the united states is a great power. we can walk and chew gum at, at, at the same time. and this has a moment to stand in my view with our ally israel and to recognize that behind these terror puppets is the puppet master announced these mamma can talk over on it . how close do you think a war with iran is due to events that have happened in the last 23 weeks? hard to say, but the big question is, has blog does tell ron hughes? it's a varsity terror team to try to save the junior varsity him off terror team. i primary
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purpose and as well as the chart israel from conducting an attack against around nuclear program. bread boeing with the foundation for the defense of democracies. right. it's always good to talk with you, we appreciate the analysis. thank you. thank you. but the day is almost done, the conversation continues online. you'll find this on the x or twitter, either dw news, you can follow the red golf tv and remember, whatever happens between now and then, tomorrow is another day. we'll see. you then have the
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