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neil: it's getting cold. the rates of holding sign and the volunteers will winter freeze the nation kids particular scene rebuild jobs, move into the at a meeting of the un security council on tuesday. the un security general, or secretary general, called for an immediate humanitarian ceasefire in gaza. antonio gutierrez should, so it'd be october 7th. the tax on his really civilians by him off were appalling. but he added those attacks did not happen in a vacuum. and he said they could not justify the collective punishment of the palestinian people. those words did not bring about a ceasefire. they did draw all the i are of these real, it's you and in baset are tweeting the head of the un should result. i'm bridge off
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in berlin. this is the day the we are an award between barbarism and civilization to tell you the truth. so i went through a hell we never imagined or salt possible. it is important. we also recognize the attacks by miles the north happened in the box. we are here today to stop the killing. the stop, the mass that goes being committed against the police to young people. no party to a non conflict is above international humanitarian law. of secretary general locked wall really definitely. this is not i will also coming out to the us sending military advisors to is real ahead of been
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expected ground defensive in gospel. uh, what i can tell you is that, um, that there are a few is relevant military officers with experienced the kinds of experience that uh, that uh, that we believe it is. it is appropriate to the sorts of operations that, that israel is conducting and may conduct in the future or to our viewers watching on tv, as in the united states and to all of you around the world. welcome. we begin today with a reminder that a civilian is a civilian, is a civilian. those were the words on tuesday of us, secretary of state, anthony blink, and add a us security council meeting. and he was referring to the $10000000.00 plus palestinians inside the gaza strip, who are now caught in a war between israel and the terrorist group home us. we can called on all countries to send humanitarian aid to gaza. and he called on her moss to stop using
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civilians in gauze as human shields. he also called on him off to release the hostages some 200 people who were kidnapped on october 7th. a 1400 people were killed that day, making a moss responsible for the deadliest single attack on jews since the holocaust. the horrors carried out that day they are coming to light more and more case in point. the is rarely could but spare. it was one of the 1st communities attacked by him us, and it became the scene of mass murder. the w use max sanders reports. security is tyson keyboards barely today, but it's done on the morning of october 7th. the army was nowhere to be seen. the more than 1000 people living here were among the 1st to be attacked by how much fighters of the realm to keep boats for hours firing machine guns, grenades,
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rocket launchers, v, how much lead terrace move from house to house over hours killing civilians. we're taking them hostage. today is keyboards, this deserted all. what's left are burnt, destroyed houses, and a community in ruins of you know, these are illegal sorties. want the world to see this and hear from people who are there. they burn the house on the smoke them out. and when they finally opened the doors, because it was breathing, decided who is the live boosted rami gold was part of a small group defending of the keyboards. he said they fired till they ran out of bullets. and i got to tell the story because 2 angels came to people from the reserve soldiers have no idea where they came from, the us there was a munition and a cell phone. so we can pull up families that tell them where we are. okay. and we
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kept them going and kept on fighting. there was dark green army arrived when the fighting stopped. emergency responders, looking for survivors, found scenes of horror which it opened the stomach, what small children, a boy and a girl had started to the back and tortured and i'll say tortured now. yes, i'll say the father was without it. they took out his eye. the mother was a breast was cut off and while the children were brutally attacked and they asked the middle and heating the food of how of different holiday holiday meals that this, this, this of this family was suppose. the physical evidence of what happened at places around the country. it arrives here at a mixture of morgan, central israel. these are some of the up to 200 unaccounted for. people more are
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still being found. we are working then nights it shift in shift, trying to identifying every agent, every one. this is hard because people were disfigured, mutilated burned. we are here doing what we're doing because we're thing. this is a whole emission for us identifying the last casualties and all of the civilians that the got killed is so in florida it's for us. we want to give them their final respect families waiting to bury their dead. and those who saw what happened or angry, as well as bereft at the boots. barry from us killed more than $100.00 people around 10 percent of the community. for ronnie gold, whose sister in law was killed that morning. there can only be one response. israel
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must completely destroy garza. they made a terrible mistake. there heard this, this very bad the damage they will suffer will be even worse. and the idea is, and they will never think of doing that again. if this the only way we can live together by them understanding that it can do it to a single emergency respond or ya see land. we saw the horse. that's how most cannot be part of the future. we went through a lot with through the holocaust. we went through a lot of it will be strong. the world is supporting us. yes, the one, the piece is a very important thing. the piece. yes. but not with home us. peace seems a far away prospect here and the ruins of keep what speed we want to go to israel now, and i'd like to bring in to all the hard to if she and a friend were the target of
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a home us mission. the attack back in 2010, her friend was murdered. tall was severely wounded, but she did survive since that she's dedicated herself to the fight against terrorism and the calls for peace. it's good to have you with this, tonight's tall or we just saw a report i know you were watching with this. i'm from the side of the massacre at keyboards, barry, i mean that's only one of the atrocities committed by her moss that day. how wounded is the is really nation at this moment as well. so, so brenda, i want to thank you for having me on your show and also to extend my gratitude and the gratitude of another 9000000. this really is because you are one of the only tv channels now who are still calling, how much terrorists still covering. actually what's happening in israel rather than the focused spin entirety of pulling the gaza. how the way i'll tell you how
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wounded we are. we are a nation traumatized and i mean, you'll nation those very well. germany knows very well. germany is of one of our greatest eyes today with that. it's no secret that this is the biggest atrocity protocol on jewish people since the holocaust. so we're still shuddering from this . we haven't even located or where everybody is. we still have 40 people missing now either there she's in some field in his room. all that will so him in, in gas a still have babies, toddlers, children, women, and men taking a hostage. we haven't yet identified old to bury are that we are traumatized nation and i'll tell you something, friend, something else. it's like an earthquake, right? and you have to be asked the shocks. what is the asked the shops? it's like i indicated a little bit earlier the after the shock is this, the main stream with the media yourselves exempt, of course, the most western media. uh quote in how much milton so as to be the see says i
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called the organizes and it's almost like a, even the united nations secretary general today made an absolutely outrageous speech that responded with are of and busted to the you and responded that he should be fired immediately. you should resign. because he said this, she said, these atrocities don't happen in the vacuum. meaning, uh, what is your called a success? somehow, the, the heading babies and the rating of dead corpses is linked to, to my eyes. because just as the federal victims, it's literally the time is told and people is it which it does the felt like yeah, let me tell you something out and then i'll of, i'll ask okay, but my god suppressed my went through so much and i've got a lot to say okay i, i want to be this i, i, i was stopped 13 times with them. a chevy. all right. i watch my christian friend hacked to death because they're
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a executioners thought she was jewish. i lost my health. i lost my friend, i lost the dignity to provide for my slip, so sleep monday and everything. but i didn't take out my frustrations. thompson arabs calling them up and have them to death. this isn't excusable people are searching the boss. so the palestinians, and it's inexcusable. and i and 9000000 other is right, is absolutely raging. not about this. i know you're angry, but i want you to know that you've spent a part of your life working to bridge the gaps between israelis and palestinians. that said, what is your reaction to the fact that no palestinian leaders have found it in themselves to condemn the mazda atrocities or well, i'm not really surprised, and thank you reminding you of us, because i always try to remember to say that it was a muslim such a new site, my life, i probably have more products to new friends than most is riley. so i know it's just because i'm a very,
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i managed to differentiate between evil and good after the attack. i'm not surprised. told that no published in young leaders have refused to to condemn this . i mean, so yes, this is a sore point and i've been speaking around the world about this. so use the european governments in the american government have been funding the palestinian authority with billions of bureaus and it, by the way, the attacks on the october, the 7th would just have us. there was sections of the piano, who also joined that in the piano and come to come under the auspices of the mood to pass the published in new jersey and must move to best take some european euros . and he is rewarded in the people who attacked me and murdered my friend with a monthly salary while they're in prison. when it's always he's going to fight and get people incentive to murder. we shouldn't be surprised that he's not going sick with all. i have to say we do, we don't have a way of verifying what you're saying. they are about where the money goes. i just
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want to make that clear. do you understand the concerns that are being expressed to is real from its friends about the scale of israel's response in god? no, absolutely no, and i tell you why because people always say we want to propulsion, you need to respond proportionately. and i say, i say personally, hasn't a bit that we would respond proportionately because that would mean we would have to the head exact same amount of babies. we would have to write the exact same amount of women. we would have to broaden the exact same amount of promising in families sitting peacefully in the homes. we do not want to per portion of response . we need to disproportionate response and therefore, is really is targeting the northern part of gas. or at the moment we have tapped from buildings, we've distributed leaflets in arabic saying, go south. we've extended our deadline from it's 10 days since we gave the warning. people that have been plenty of time to cross those few miles into the south. and
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it's very interesting, it's only recently the egypt eve of baba to open the board just to humanitarian i. well most think brent. we have we have a humanitarian crisis here. we have over 100000 people who have to leave their homes from the north in the south and living in the hotels. they're living in my back yard and living everywhere. no one's talking about the humanitarian, a colorado that is coming to this room. and it wouldn't be double compulsion. let's keep it or get to who started this with the salvage rate. so what did you say then to the birds from the us secretary of state anthony blinking knob. he visited his real immediately after the these attacks. and he said that the middle east has a choice of the hate. the deal isn't offered by him oss, or the people working together for peace and stability. is that, i mean i could sense the anger that you're carrying right now. it means if it is
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even thinking about peace right now, is that possible or no? absolutely no. i know people say, oh, the innocent 1000 civilians have cost their innocent civilians, but we seek for each now of hundreds of innocent civilians who followed these savages into my people. seeming to out people sees newton dead for this. we hear radio, we saw a mobile phone close recorded by these terrace, calling the solve this from jewish phones and the parents and getting them on one guys. one subject you said, oh i moved it to people with my own hands and the mom and dad be innocent civilians a sudden. yea, and also i go to remind you of course are innocent civilians. but let's not forget the thousands of innocent guides and civilians who through st. paul to so $911.00, the same thousands of innocent guides and civilians who does shout can be every time a jewish, not jews, jewish fuss this murder, i have palestinian friends. i have a friend or 2 in gaza, right?
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they've done nothing wrong by hop rates for them. it really does, but my hot breaks my own people and you're talking about, you know, innocent civilians. these people are getting a cop flush for full. so allowing, like, how do you say 100, the hundreds of thousands of humanitarian night that israel has been given to dallas for the last decade or so. let me ask you this now. these people never did anything wrong. let's close a copy paste with come us, and these people both to come, by the way. well, before we run out of time, let me just ask you, then what has to happen for peace to be achieved? in your opinion? i mean i, i know you agree with what you're, you're hearing from benjamin netanyahu that hamas has to be destroyed. but do you think that's the only thing that has to happen before you can have peace with the pill? telephones a. it's a very good question. list and asked at the attack
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a few years ago i, i contact to the young palestinian man. and i said, let's make, let's make the world better place what do you want to do? and we told so we set up a little after school club and the refugee camp teaching published in children english and computer skills. so they could better their lives now cause he could never say that because his own people would murder him for that. have been normalize ations with that you. all right, so what needs to happen? first of all, regarding your pin in america, you need to completely withdraw any fund into the palestinian authority because they all stayed in money from their own people, the squander and poverty. you see and gaza is because there are people that own leadership of stolen that get rid of that leadership. let's look for fresh leadership. all right? unless no b, o kind of have you said story, i and rainbows that oh we need this rounds and unicorns these people. a lot of these people have been fed hatred in the united nations or the rest schools in gaza
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with the curriculum specifically teaches young palestinian children to hate jews. and i believe the international choir to the lots of under and certainly now in the united nations follow in this outrages justification of the slow trip my people. the problem is not with israel. the problem is with these big organizations and the money that stream it into the kind of thing in the process and you know, thursday, unfortunately, we're out of time carl onto if we appreciate you sharing your thoughts and your passion with our viewers tonight. thank you. thank you, brent way hurting. i was like a week. thank you for supporting this rope or the response to the how mazda attacks is real, called. the $360000.00 reserve is now that figure amounts to 4 percent of the country's population. it has also been massing forces close to god that is real,
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says that it will destroy him off and has a signal began and again, but it was sending troops to carry out that task because it is one of the most densely populated places on the planet fighting there is predicted to be very hard and costly had a bad ground operation in garza, the us is sending military advisors to is real. here's white house and security spokesman john kirby. uh, what i can tell you is that, um, that there are a few relevant military officers with experience. the kinds of experience that uh, that uh, that we believe it is. it is appropriate to the source of operations that, that is real is conducting and may conduct in the future to go over there to share some perspectives from their own experience and to ask the hard questions. the same hard questions that we've been asking of ours really counterparts since the beginning. all right, i'm gonna take this now over to brad bowman. he's with the foundation for defense
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of democracies. it's good to see you again. brad, among the military advisors that are going over, i understand one is maureen, lieutenant general, james glenn, who he has experience fighting against islamic state. he served in felicia, in a rack, one of the bloodiest urban battles in recent history. all of that considered what kind of expertise can be us offer is real here. are, you know, the israel, israel has a formidable military. it's the best, the most effective military in the middle east. but the united states has a lot of experience in the middle east to to say the least over the last 20 years after 911. and you have a gentleman, such as the marine car, lieutenant general, who spent many years fighting and some of the toughest places a lot of back the kind of urban warfare where there are lessons that were learned at great cost. great human costs are they can be shared with our is really allies to help them accomplish their objectives at,
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at the lowest cost for them. do you think the us believes really use it? have a properly conceived, well thought out plan to enter guns, and i think after the october 7 terror attack and in your previous guess helps to your viewers kind of understand some of the anger that i'm also hearing from israelis, which is understandable. right? there was some sort of combination, i think for them of pearl harbor $911.00 under per capita terms. it was roughly equivalent to 40 or 50000 americans dying. roughly 13 to 14 times more americans inside and 911. but these tears didn't come from afghanistan. they came from a mile to a wayne, crashing into their living rooms, doing horrible things. and so there's, there's great anger and his role and that's understandable. and they want to defend their military. but saying that you're going to destroy him off and doing it or to wildly different things. yeah. and after you destroy them, what comes next? israel doesn't want to occupied gaza. so if you're not going to occupy it, who's going to rule, there are very tough questions. that need to be answered,
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but right now israel just wants to prevent the october 7th from happening again. yeah. and if you, if you go in and how clear does your objective appear to be, i mean it to the untrained eye. the people looking from the outside israel's objective of destroying home us seems to be more of a desire than a clear objective. how did, how do you see? yeah, no, you know that we have something new. i was called the, the wind burger doctor, the power doctor. and it's, it's a list of questions you asked before starting and military conflict. and, and one of those questions is, you know, what's your exit strategy, right? and so, you know, we call that a phase for operating. what do you do after you, you compress your military objectives, but to accomplish your military objectives. and one of the most dense environments on earth urban environments, with many, many miles of underground tunnel stocked with weapons that enable a mouse fighters to survive bombardment and conduct surprise attacks many of their arsenal stored under hospitals and schools. they know that territory,
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you're literally talking about block by block building by building room by room fighting, and then you have to hold that ground once you have it. right. and then you're looking at a counter insurgency. so this is as general patricia said, the initially difficult was his quote, i think he's exactly right and speak from experience. and so i think what israel's looking at right now is maybe just focus on northern gaza and transforming northern gaza. and then maybe stop there is because they are looking at other one of their eyes at has belong to north. wondering whether when they get bogged down in gaza is has blogging to come in and their major way in the north. a. do you think that's the, that's a big worry to among us military advisors at israel is going to find itself with a multi front more? oh, yes, absolutely. that's. that's the, the us as an extraordinary combat power in the last couple of weeks to the middle east to carrier strike groups, a marine expeditionary unit, f fifteens as 16 f, 35, a tons, air missile defense units. the list goes on and on,
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and present by the looks and the cameras century also looks like i'm says, don't don't. who's talking to talking about a ron? and it's terror puppet has blog to try to prevent a another front in israel's north. not to mention the west bank which can light up as well. let me ask you before we run out of time, we've got about a minute. a minute, minute and a half the us. we know it's a thing ukraine. we've talked about that before. it's also keeping an eye on china, and it's now competing, we bought to aircraft carriers to israel's defense in the mediterranean, or in the gulf region. is there a danger of the us military overreach here? no, i think in this moment there's a danger of under reach. i think if we don't deployed combat power, now we're going to have a smaller problem become a bigger problem, thereby citing of more resources. so this is the danger. here's american weakness, not strength. and the endo pacific commander, recently at the pentagon podium said not a single asset has been pulled from the in the pacific for this, this fight. so the united states is
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a great power. we can walk and chew gum at the same time. and this is a moment to stand in my view with our ally israel, and to recognize that behind these terror puppets is the puppet master. and that's these long and can talk over on it. how close do you think a war with iran is due to events that have happened in the last 23 weeks? hard to say, but the big question is, has blog does k, ron hughes? it's a varsity terror team to try to save the junior varsity him off terror team. i primary purpose and it has the law as the chart as well, from conducting an attack against around nuclear program. bread. boeing with the foundation for the defense of democracies. right. it's always good to talk with you, we appreciate the analysis. thank you. thank you or but the day is almost done, the conversation continues online. you'll find this on x or twitter, either dw news, you can follow the red golf tv and remember, whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day. we'll see you then ever the,
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