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tv   Close up  Deutsche Welle  October 25, 2023 12:30pm-1:00pm CEST

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the sauce, it's getting cold. the rates of holding sign and the volunteers will winter freeze the nation kids particular scene, rebuild jobs, move indices, double the everything that he knows about his roots is inside the suitcase. paul redmond was born in an irish mother and baby home just a few days after his birth. he was given up for adoption. ready ready this letter is only linked to his birth mother. ready this semester is a personal touch. it's something she wrongs at something she touched. so it's,
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it's some sort of physical connection. the physical connection. it might not have a whole garter kiss, but at least you got something to talk to in the halls somewhere else. these are the survivors of a scandal that is still rocking ireland born and catholic institutions and still trying to discover their identity and trace their birth parents the the seemingly tranquil town of tomb and western ireland. a place that and a car again, just can't seem to forget. this was once the side of a mother in baby home run by catholic nuns, up to 1961. and married women were sent here to give birth. the remains of 796 infants live here.
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this is the, the list of the children who died in the home. here, john does mantell and he died 15 months. john, her older brother was born and apparently died here. and then there is william. what happened to and his brothers, and there was no special grace for decades. the nuns didn't just hush off the high rate of child mortality in the home. they also humiliated and neglected even the very youngest of children. and a still doesn't know what really happened to her brothers here. it's a very strange position to be. and because i have one brother here, i mean has a death search. so i'm not blue, but he's here. i have another brother who's dead. does he have a death certificate? no reason for that animal select believe he's here for the yes,
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he's not on the names of the 796 these 3 carmel, larkin, walter, francis and p j, have her to survive the home into the deal for hello. hello. hello, walter, how are you? i'm with you. i just came in to add a quarter again met them 8 years ago, shortly after the scandal made international headlines. oh, i was looking at impairments consent they could be made for this cause the age pro 5 for c a you are filling in from a parents. i knew nothing about my mother's thing. somebody didn't tell me before he should have p j have her to spend almost 7 years in st. mary's mother and baby home. then he was put in foster care. most of the other survivors were given up for adoption. so the kid on the office um i was one of the lucky ones. i was lucky, i probably would use board and maybe has a baby and that's when they survived. it's
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a frightening place. it's beside the said place because i could be in here is when this what frightens me, what was going on in tomb was being practiced systematically throughout ireland. those were the findings of a report published by the irish government in 2021 and investigation into the country's 14 largest homes. up to 1998. revealed that 56000 women had had their newborns taken away from them and released for adoption. the in the ultra conservative catholic ireland of the time getting pregnant out of wedlock was seen as a sin in castle pollard. there was also a catholic mother in baby home. paul redmond was born here in
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1964. the building is long empty. but the home dominates his thoughts. he wants to understand what happened to him here. that was, that was 58 years ago, was a moment. celebrate xbox, a lot of memories, because this is where i last saw my motor for the last time. i've never seen or since the more than 4500 children were born in a home in castle college. a catholic quarter of nuns ran the institution from 1935 to 1971. paul redmond's research shows that the nuns pressured the mother's into signing adoption papers for their children. paul was separated from his mother shortly after his birth, and he was adopted when he was just 17 days old. it's a funny, mixed emotions. been back here because it's where i live. start of my life color
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gone to one of 2 directions. one was to stay with us from the motor total was to be adult. this saw this place is like i'm a rail junction with 2 rooms or trucks and the old right golf. the more it was all my mind play was i gave in the way what happened is there something wrong with me? he now knows that his birth mother is called adeline. she was 20 years old and, and married at the time, her parents paid the order $100.00 irish pounds to make the baby disappear. of the if you are pregnant, denied, then you were married. then you are just a horrible, sooner on the penitence as they would do anything they called to jose depaula issue for loss. so it's important that we remember all these things and bear with this and make sure to future generations. stone for gas poll redmond has set up
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a self help group to make sure that doesn't happen today. he is arranged to meet others like himself on the side of the former home. yeah. yeah. for this you guys know re you good to see you guys. so you guys are saving a small home, wants to give others the opportunity to confront their past. almost all the adopted children are trying to trace their routes. many do not know to this day who their mother was missing documents and the non stony silence also dogged lawrence cloaks attempts to trace his past. like when i started looking . and i got in touch with the nuns and they said it's very different. go back and look for your mother, like because she could be anywhere in the world. that's gonna cost money because we lawrence received this letter from the religious order back then. paul reads it out to the group. this is time consuming and could be expensive. so if you want us to
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go ahead, we would need help in the area as we are in voluntary society. well, that's the straight of law item or not voluntary, safe of hearts adoption. sorry, the sauce was a professional and registered agency changing baby, and they got they got money from the government to look after. for 2 years, the nuns kept demanding money from lawrence and kept finding him off from the nuns, only revealed his mother's name when he threatened to stop the payments. and when i was adopted, but i was looking to come back and find out. yeah. and the 191991 race, i found a lot about 2025 years and i finally found another 10 years after that was that along back for a long time, the survivors were unaware of the scale of this inhumane system. paul found out that almost one in 10 babies born in castle pollard did not survive. ready
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literally right between a need are fee stores of those $245.00 form of burials and a $150.00 still by itself is about $400.00 pages buried here. paul has written a book about ireland mother in baby homes so so being adults, digital, fully 100 percent, these which are toppling families, have the adults for the 5th, which are the actual 5 the are because they're gone. so with the volume is be, it's huge over, they do sort of feel a sense of kinship, how we all call one another, a creative mace. and the group is being a huge benefit for everybody. and that's why people talk about the last about how has changed our lives and made them feel less lonely and give them the best sense of belonging to the survivors or yesterday's unwanted children.
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the, the mother and baby home in june was torn down in 1972. catherine corliss has a scale model of the building in her living room. the amateur historian brought the nuns appalling abuse to light. she discovered that the baby's bodies had been disposed of in a disused sewage treatment system under ground. she had uncovered one of the biggest scandals in ireland history. when catherine confronted the authorities with what she has discovered, the stone walled, nobody wants it to her bosses that fight everything to come out against me even to
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people who are. professors, of course, tried to stop me. call the code to counsel did everything in their power to stuff me because they knew what happened at their response, but so they did their best cover up. while homes like, shoot me, were run by catholic nuns, regional authorities were generally responsible for their supervision. one woman against the church and the state assisted in her research by her husband, aiden irish media 1st reported on the scandal in 2014. catherine began receiving threats and that is still going on to this day. but she refused to be intimidated to the interviews. i would probably got some and tyler say that i had to do this and especially when nobody was listening or want to listen is this is if i put another baby stone, they become really babies to me. and just because the really just some of the work,
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the word in the park and, and i could not understand toiletries, it hasn't been brought into the water could not be in park and they wouldn't give the medicine, they wouldn't call a doctor. and they just let them die. i feel the cold term, the death certificate in particular, continue to haunt catherine. some records of other mother and baby homes spacious. that's the that's for, for suffice stuff. some other with the told us to she gave birth of the baby died instead of this faith and may have been given to a couple from america or are elsewhere as quite possible. that's a lot of the babies haven't died at all. the server. i mean the best or are you think you're going with in the course of her research, catherine has made many of the survivors. her revelations have changed the lives of p. j, have her tea and carmel larkin. she's returned a piece of their identity to them and america is our him. now he's
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a carpenter. that's where you type in bar and carmen. and here's the new jersey on the back here. that's that was a bit further say. and then yeah, your poor motor then after giving birth to the left over here, she was given 7 days rest with the baby. there were no to the 7 days, so just and that was, it is open and all the heavy work that's with populations. lots of some scrubbing floors student over time. yeah. birth certificates, adoption papers, letters for decades. the nuns and the adoption authorities kept all these documents under lock and key. so everybody was afraid of the police, afraid of the religion, afraid of everything, day to control on everything completely and the effect in that they didn't want us to do one thing and just hide over thing. it was another way of torching you. there was no investigation as to who did all of this damage while you with them babies pushing to adopt a lot of times you couldn't take the knowns. i'm anyways, cause they have mess up amount of money. the government even were afraid to
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confront the known sort of church. they could get a top dollar to start or celeste or in the world, not in europe. so how could you, would you compete to fix that equipment when, as no one was held responsible for the dead babies of choose the order of nuns that ran home only apologize in 2021. when the government published its report and that report came too late for many of those affected who doubts whether the state is really interested in uncovering the truth. pga have her tea is now 71. he lives just a few kilometers from to a small farm. peach it was just under 7 when he was fostered with the stigma of being illegitimate. has
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stayed with him his entire life. so when they came to my teams, that's the ones i've got very difficult for me. then that's when i got the videos from people that found out that i was bored. notices of sight of wedlock, which is a big market st. evaluate tape and just reject you back to you and just called your names for no clear reason. i couldn't understand why it's an old that's affected me growing up at the eventually then i went to a river to do away with myself because i couldn't take any more life life. and i still have this insight, me all the time. like, you know, i really do the irish government has announced compensation plans, but only those people who spend at least 6 months in a mother and baby home will be eligible to have her tea is set to receive 40000 zeros. we're only getting peanuts we're only getting
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a fraction when you thing like it. those 7 years take note of my life laptops. what i caught up for the nursing home, i presume like honest something you've taken over my life. i don't know anything about just and you must have taken away from you. that's what christ. in his early twenties, pj, i started looking for his birth mother. he asked neighbors and other locals and discovered that his mother was living in london. at 1st they exchanged letters. then she agreed to meet him. from his mother, p. j discovered that she had never wanted to get him away. for 5 years, she had knocked at the door of the home every day. but the nuns turned her away. she loved for me, she wants to do everything for me, but she was restricted. she told me. i was delighted to know that she didn't leave me there because she didn't like me or she didn't want me. which was nice to know that she did want to make sure the difference and to get me out. and that was
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lovely like, you know, it cleaned, it took a lot of your, you know, that you for jury hillman, he over the part of the human race and everything like, you know, your 2000 and the image and more that i need to talk to and i think so it went to north flush north of the dublin and a quarter again, search goes on. she still doesn't know for sure what happened to her 2 brothers. she collects everything connected to the mother in baby homes, birth and death certificates. baptism certificates and investigation reports for search has become central to her life. and i grew up as an only child. she only discovered by chance that she had siblings after her mother's death. it's like somebody has given you a stage signs. the big wooden cudgels are
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a big wrecking ball. it takes a lot of time to process that. my mother never had told me anything about her time, interim home, people didn't discuss it because in the law, the case scenario and this was there was a lot of shame attached being in a home. and i came across a medical report in documents held by the adoption authorities and entry about her brother john read. he was a miserable, emaciated child with a voracious appetite and no control over bodily functions. what happened to discharge from birth to 12 months that he ends up in this condition? no control over bundling functions. if john is dead, i contend he died and i'd like to him on nutrition. in 2014 and i contacted the police. john's cause of death is under investigation. for brother, william is officially classed as a missing person. on the outskirts of
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dublin, paul redmond lives with his adoptive mother. he helps look after his adoptive father, his dad is. they were open about his adoption. it didn't read the kind of occurred to me, what's the top demand? uncle? i was 7 or age. i'm gonna have a vivid memory of being in english. and then the 1st mcdonald's, an argument which has a lot of mirrors at the time. i don't remember seeing my whole family in the queue and looking at the mirror seemed to everybody else. and finally, a block here and i had red hair. so that was one of the 1st times i kind of realize that's what it really means to be adopted. and i knew what it meant to be adopted, but that was the 1st time it really emotionally hit me. his adoptive parents didn't know what really went on in the mother in baby homes. so they couldn't answer paul's questions. i started searching as a teenager and then i was 50. i took my bicycle, the side of things,
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adults. after looking up the address of the adoption society in the following book, i like an absolute short to stay or nothing on top. of course, they just got ready to pull treasures the result of his search. it took 25 years to track down his mother adeline. but on the telephone, she told him that she didn't want any contact. all the whole house is this letter. this letter is a personal touch. it's something she wrongs at something she touched solace. it's some sort of physical connection, the physical connection. it might not have a holger kiss, but at least you got something to talk to the whole world. i
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did find peace and bought a very s straightened sort of piece. i kind of became no more about the whole team . you can trace and you can search and they can do this. you can, how so the government from mountain, so paperwork going to the end of the day. you cannot make somebody want that relationship with you. it has to be their choice. such a slight pain floyd solved to die. house be calm, constantly, no. unfortunately that is, that was how stay comfortably. no there's no p j have or t was at least able to meet his birth mother. i talked to him that day on life once we had the ice broken and we had met with neat again. unfortunately, life doesn't work that way, it didn't go that way. decades of separation cannot be put aside just like
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that picture. his mother didn't want to interfere in his life and avoided further contact. 35 years passed before the 2 of them saw each other. again, his mother was 88 and no longer recognized her son. she died shortly afterwards. the only thing is, i thought the reason, cuz when i talked to northwest, evaluate our stuff. and if i'm not the mother, i don't know if the mother even is so for me to free my mother that was a big thing. and not knowing that thing, but to be able to go to a funeral and see how be led to rest. so i can conclude said to myself, i've everybody okay man, i've got that much more that signal because of now p j would like to find the last piece and the person who was his biological father. he hopes
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a dna test will shed light on that. catherine cordless is helping him just because it's like technical. if a test page you go with the test frontier puts us into difficult difficult codes. the you stop talking because advise you if dna records of even a distant relative of his fathers are held anywhere, p j will no more to coat the whole truth and nothing. oh says catherine gets enquiries from all over the world. she looks for names and contact details of survivors, relatives with the help of dna test results and online databases. i fairly good if i get answers for them. it's the same thing as to beat the system. a lot of those people who are born in the home,
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they are not allowed to see their own records, see who their mother is older father is that information belongs to the fish and that's a social world. i get a good feeling if i find something for that family, they're so happy. there's still a time for i've changed their life. and what more could i ask? the results from pj's dna test will take a few weeks to arrive. paul redmond is concerned with one question above all. why didn't his mother try to trace him? not only the long silence of the state and the church are to blame over the years, a kind of our bar. so a lot of the monitors i'd be told that it was a terrible more to say to reconcile our have a reunion with our child that was drilled into them into boulder and baby helps. i live with something that really stays with monitors. because a more to say it was tossed the worst of the worst. i mean
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a rags up there were bird or am and if you come in on board. so said, due to how for all the talking to see it changed my perspective on my natural love her by making me realize that she missed the fact that we were both victims out survivors in the way as well. in 2018 pope francis visited ireland. as a survivor, paul was invited to an audience with the pontiff. he asked the pope to set the record straight about models in all the time. many single mothers were told not to see that children, but this was a multiple st. i'm also saying for the irish adoption agencies saw a sudden jump in the number of tracing requests after the pope's announcement. i'm afraid of all the changes we see. that's the wall and the kind of stays at me the
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most in some ways. i mean to our mothers and drop these and all corners. why that are, they'd be living and shame and fee or of silence for turkey. 145060 years old vibes of 5 lead the pope hive of such a free of all this nonsense. now what is a display stuff? unknowns around the motor a baby holds have a sense the ignored want. the pulp said they haven't taken the responsibility to have and offer to to call attribute towards re dress for survivors. paul's battle continues. he wants the irish government to pay compensation to all survivors, regardless of how long they were in the homes. he plans to go to the country supreme court if necessary is still waiting for answers about what really happened to her brothers john and williams. i'm
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hoping that they do find my brother. i mean we're getting older and 67 this year. so my brother's into a seventy's, so time is running else and there's more of the glimmer of hope there. this is and i was, i'm nice and we may not want to know me, but i just want to say so your life you survived. you don't like may's look like do i wish you a very happy days? if you don't want to know, i'm just please leave. turn that letter for you. if you do want to know i'd be over the mount, i'm bringing home i. let's do so you to your nieces and nephews, a show you my show you where i live, bring use the countryside, show you where a mother was from, bring it to where it's just buried. and so then you are peace and you can send me the piece for me. the, the government has now announced it will have the remains in june exhumed. perhaps
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this will give and a certainty about the fate of both of her brother's pg search also still goes on the dna test didn't provide any leads about his father's identity. i have names being told to me like, but to really find those would be lovely. but for the all the survivors you know, might have still goes out to them. the silicon model is that what they're still looking for, their sons and daughters want to know where they are just to hold them because of the chief and hopefully one day that's what happened. the
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