of the industrial age, replacing fossil fuels with renewable energy around the world. is this really possible to document trees the renewables november 25th on d w? in response to the militant palestinian group of mazda is the attack on israel, sweden and the e. u. while reviewing their non humanitarian aid to palestinians, while accusations are flying about a so called double standard in the west actions in the middle east and ukraine shouldn't have any double standards, we should define the same standards when it comes to atrocities committed. my guess this week on complex own is swedish for administer, toby is feel strong. he joins me from stockholm. as the environment of gauze it intensifies how concerned is he that the conflict could spread in the region,

and with the risk of attention being diverted. how can he continue to show up support for the war, a new crane for to mr. bill strong. welcome to conflicts down. thank you very much. there are fears that the israel hamas moore could widen into a broader middle east conflict as israel steps up. it's one barman of gaza and clashes at israel's northern border with lebanon intensify. how are you looking at the current situation? but it is indeed a very, very affordable situation, which is no evolving before our eyes. and i think that we have to look at this from both the short term and a long term perspective. the short term perspective is because we need to bring more humanitarian assistance to augusta. we need to acknowledge that research has the right to defend itself against the atrocities of the terrorist attacks by the terrorist organization organizations a mouse on the stomach yacht. but we also have to move to the suffering of

a people in augusta and to find a way to bring the humanitarian assistance in the shape of volta and suffice food and also fuels of the visa, the nation. and on the inside of golf sought to, to get special to, to, to the people are not as important as the other hand rules. i have to look at this very important issue of racing the hostages. taken by, by almost, i mean this, i can see many after spending an important role european union, we will not get states un of coast, but also be out of state who i think all acting acting in a very constructive way. i've done to reach out to colleagues seen who used to be gone. that's my feeling the, with increased, it's humanitarian a to the palestinians, but at the same time, you will be reviewing your non humanitarian aid. what does that mean? or are you just now checking if you indirectly gave money to him off which the you, as you mentioned, they're classified as a terrorist organization to i think that's under the circumstances. so it is

prudent to see to it that no money which is allocated to the palestinian authority finds its way into the pockets of organizations not come also some yeah, but even loan. so this is also connected to the question of the peace process. we need to seek it the past in sort taken functions and it is incredible organization, because if we all go for a 2 state solution and this has to be the long term perspective, to establish peace in the region, to states israel, some kind of science being able to the right, my side, are you thinking about whether you will in fact reduce non humanitarian aid? for example, on the level? because i mean the you is the biggest single donor of a to palestinians as well. from your perspective. i don't see that happening. i think that it is important then i think that those are actually majority also

a in the counseling favor with this. i was of that we have to understand that, that, you know, undermining the credibility of about a standard authority. it would be a dangerous thing that would actually help a mouse and assignment to you how to gain support this in, in the, the, the independent same kind of style in both the west bank and gaza. and that'll be the be, is really dangerous. when we look at the overall annual approach so far, um, what we have seen is disunity and confusion on display. first, there was a statement that the you said it's suspended, it's a to palestinians in response to the attack on israel by him, off. that statement was reversed. soon thereafter. isn't it a bit embarrassing in the middle of a crisis like this? i think it was. we have to separate the shows, so it is glad to have a that the statement goes to premature. but that was done by an individual commission. uh, nope, by the commission itself. and when it comes to the member states,

well it is the member states. so according to shots on they send because the member states also ultimately who decides this? and i have to say that i've just come back from yesterday's meeting in books and books with the feeling that yes, the debates and discussions quite naturally repeated moments like this. but the, you have to maintain and achieve unity. now we have an upcoming meeting for the latest of your being counsel now wednesday, and that's, i think, will bring some more clarity to but you know what it does speak to mr. for administer as is how they even expect to find consensus on the future of aid for palestinians and just the general approach to the situation. a, i'd like to ask you about one aspect of that. how about, for example, calling for a cease fire so that, that crucial aid that you mentioned, the humanitarian aid may be let into gaza for those civilians. the u. n. is calling for it. you foreign ministers couldn't agree at a meeting earlier this week. where do you stand us? but we stand on the side of a high representative yoseph burrell. less is spoken about to the humanitarian

bulls. i think of it because it's a wasteful work, and we have to understand again that this is a very complex situation. no easy, easy solutions to this, no quick fixes, but the humanitarian pause would be the would enable us to bring the aging to, to goss. that's of the suffering people in phones of food and. ready to and, and medicine and also if you will, and i think this is important. i spoke a little bit earlier about uh, diplomacy and the prospect of a 2 state solution. um, you know, sweden in general, back in 2014 was the 1st e u member in western europe to officially recognize a state of palestine saying, and i'm quoting here, we hope this will show the way for others. you've been supporting palestinians toward a 2 state solution. is there any hope of that any more, realistically, a yeah, well the 2 state solution has to be cheap because it is the only way only feasible

way of bringing peace to base regions with people who are suffering to both disparities. and so it's kind of spins and the credible solutions on the table have been for many, many years now. but, but what it boils down to is that you have to achieve trusted. you have to keep confidence in up more leaders. and one thing though, that i take a bit of hoping, and i think the last is understand it goes to duty a moment like this, boom, boom, boom. so forwarding, it doesn't seem to see that. you don't feel like this is actually up to every big crisis over the last 20 years. that's the result of the peace process underway for what i don't think we have to understand. but this could be the outcome of this terrible situation which we are facing right now. and frankly, the swedish government, though we receive an alternative to the 2 state solution. so we're going to work in favor of this with talk this both in the middle east with the united states, with the u. n. and within the u. hope which we all,

let's turn now to the impact inside the ink is borders we're seeing heightened security concerns here in europe over the situation in the middle east. the u foreign policy chief joseph cortez said last week that when he hears and i'm quoting here, religious authorities speaking the language of inter religious conflict and explicitly saying that europe is a party to the conflict. he feels the storm clouds are looming. he says he believes we are on the edge of the best. do you agree with him? i think the season for something very cool. so we have to find a balance label. we have to acknowledge the indispensable vice bass fair to defend itself against terrorist attacks. frankly speaking, which government wouldn't do best when you're faced with the little thing of your own citizens in thousands, such as has to be the case of the 7th of october atrocities. so your plan contrast, they're increasing their security measures that including border checks as a result of the conflict and a series of violent attacks here,

including 2 swedish nationals killed and brussels last week by a government claiming allegiance to the so called as law mac stake. presumably in response to a number of recent cron burnings in suite, in this past year. tell us a little bit more about the security situation and how it's affecting sweden in particular as well. the terrace deed was, of course, terrible. and, and we, we all know welding shop together with the people, many of them the, the who suffer. there's also people for life. so for the family members, we also have to do compose to the security with the situation. you mention it and, and i think we have to do the so many levels best. we do security police already entering the, the salma race, the level of the terrorist best phone 3 to a 4 to 5 scale. and do we actually uh, well afraid, but something like this which happened in belgium. cool. but that wasn't the total was from continuing along the same office. we have already spoken to throat and

that is to sam stolen terry's. my we have to do is with the help of the police, a girl that takes the dialogue with people as significant push back to tell respects and the levels which we see. all right, c 9 o side. but can you tell us a little bit more about how you're clamping down on the incidents that have caused so much anger? because, you know, many in the muslim world are furious about these public cron burnings that have taken place in your country. and i just like to bring in the example in june because there we understand that 2 men were watched by a crowd of people. they tore pages out of the career on the burns, them outside of a mosque, and they weren't granted a permit for demonstration. that's how things work in your country. they didn't hide their intent to burn the book. and yet the new york times reported this, that's the demonstrations were not allowed to burn objects in stock home. so how is it that these demonstrators were able to ultimately burn the book?

the reason these are the sweetest, the biggest ation, is constructed in the way of, of the permits but demonstrations. but as you said, by friday, they do not have a poem and to the book to bell, hopefully that scripture, the corona, any or any other book was we just government is now doing use of we have launched an inquiry into the public school to act which governs to police authorities and responsibility to grant phones. and that inquiry means that it was a but also the to an opportunity to, to new thing that to the possibility of bringing national security when the brands and natural when invest opponents. something which we cannot do today, and this is a to which the government wants to know more about and, and the foreign minister, nearest neighbor, denmark, for example, they're taking moves to actually outright in the band koran burnings following outrage, overburdening stair as well. is it time for sweden to think about doing the same

the problem is that then more cuz we have different biggest ations. if we want to do the thing which we are doing in demo, that would be the constitutional issue. we test to the, to constitutional changes as being well, as the democrats do, what we are planning to do, changing the public or back that leads to constitutional changes invalid just ation because we don't operate russia has meantime, been spreading narratives, especially in the developing world saying that's media is hostile toward as long. for example, the criminal control outlets created a rumor that sweet or social services were systematically kidnapping and trying to christianize children from muslim families. that campaign is said to have reached hundreds of millions of followers on social media. how wide spread is this information like this? how big is the problem for you? and it is a big problem, and we can see that states both the russia states and states back this, russia and he wrong, is also not the company which has problem this specific and pain promote that 18 in social media towns. and it has a very,

very aggressive campaign and the games both towards listing seen in other countries, and most mc, my own companies, in my own country, we are now competing this. we have brought together the response of the sort. this is reading both the way down to municipality level and all the way up to natural towards this in order to have him out. the counselor complained to these and we are well on this from the government side to do so. we're also going to do it together with office and we have to understand that this has been new information, both bad and operational re now which we are living through. this is the way things are going to be conducted, effective fine things, small grains of truth, and then you blow them up. it's an old russian trick, but you have to work against what's the turn now to the war and ukraine. how worried are you that attention and weapons will be diverted elsewhere, given the conflict in the middle east. for example, we've seen the u. s. saying last week, the 10s of thousands of artillery shells promise to ukraine are now going to be diverted to israel assigned to for to come. so you know,

i'm quite confident in the world. so president biden, when he was interviewed the other day and said, you know, we have the united states coast, they're capable of having to cope except this in time. and i'm quite confident that that's, that this would be the case. and also the conflict in east bed is no conflict. the ukraine is not only in a much, much smaller scale. if this was a defense, you mean its entire make up the boy ukraine. it's a lot scalable. as something, you know, we haven't seen the europe since the 2nd world. ready so we have to look at the best point of view, but the website confident about sufficient item. but where do you get that confidence mr. for administer? because, i mean it's, it's quite clear that the us president though it doesn't always have his congress behind him. we've also been seeing divisions in the you over russia, but they have been taken to the next level. in fact, after hungry is or bon met with bruton. we've also seen the election of robert pico

in slovakia, who ran on an anti ukraine platform. basically showing how quickly the tide concern, especially considering that slovakia was the 1st country to deliver fighter jets to ukraine. aren't you concerned about you, unity and support for ukraine? i mean, this seems like a clear sign of, of waning european support specified mr. taylor called to basing a package to do both to congress consisting of a to both ukraine, israel and taiwan in, in the same combination. i think that needs to be built into, to, to the scope to understand the political realities. and i again, that we feel confident about this, looking that to be you. well, uh, during the recent sweetie she, you pressing and see if during the spring we were able to bring over to a new site sanction packages against them. russia. and i think we are able to maintain unity and move forward and i'm worried about this, but we have to coast and contemplate and not taking it. granted. that's that needs

to be said we we have to give it to norwich, acknowledgement to the u. ship of by the american people. i've said this public the last say it again. the fact that the us has provided so much military support to paint is the reason why a credit is still standing as a state us done. and also to come to financial support to ukraine, but it's a great tool, but we need to do more when it comes to military school and acknowledge what the us people are doing for brain experts say that one of the few weapon systems that could change the course of the war as fighter jets, sweden says that it will only provide its griffin war planes to ukraine if it gets nato accession. is there no chance of you providing these were planes beforehand? well the, i was present the preschool friends top soon to the prime minister. some of the residents were pissed, incidents give this instead of vis, vis autumn, and what the problem is to set them the student stance,

namely that we have to see through it that's on a succession process, is finalized, but we'll be ready now training ukrainian fight the yes, pilot, how quickly could you get new credit? the plans if you are in theater, admitted tomato. but i'm not going to talk about that because that is supposed to me to tell the secrets because i could say clearly nice. but once we have the company to members, things will be in a different site, but they have to do to our own security 1st. and that is that it will cost you minutes ending parity. another security threat, recent attacks on under seas infrastructure this time of communication, cable between sweden and a stone yet in the baltic. c. a gas pipeline connecting finland's in estonia also damaged. your prime minister has warrants that these undersea data cables are both essential to the modern economy and vulnerable to attacks. how loanable are you as well, it's not just us. actually, we have to look at this again from an e u. and from a native perspective, i mean we have, we have a neighboring country,

no way. who has guess be it's an oil field space and see whether under was a k, besides sense calling me. and i think that we have to understand that this is also a new type of time which we are living and the attitude of my government. these that we need more corporation was unable small corporation with our nato allies in order to, to counter. and this, and that's because of course, the, the more access that capability is when it comes to with so being a situations under water. and luckily sweden has the capabilities already. we also would like to see more cooperation of basically co space and look at something which is going to a way we can see. but this would be a truly be of everything for us to, to spell, for adversaries to use against. com is not sweet. them so when you on seen that in this case and feelings for mr. said the to undersea as links have probably been damaged on purpose. do you agree? is it likely sabotage? who's behind it? russia? the? well, again, i need to say,

but i'm not going to attribute this to any concrete right now. very so police investigation underway when that is finalize the end of the prosecutor headsets, uh well they, they need to say i might be able to, to do a public statements of this. but the full that i'm going to do is, i think that will be voted with me as a minute stuff to do. so let's talk about your membership in nato, which has long been blocked by turkey. turkish president, rest retire type air. the one has just submitted a bill, approving your membership bed to his parliament for ratification. in general though, how, how disappointed are you in the process of the demands that turkey has been placing on you? i've said it's many times before and i'll say it's again that the the memorandum is assigned to a met reach at the summit, 2 or 3. it last you what's important because you've been such sweden on the took some responsibilities for changes but the legit are ready to admit him on behalf of

the t. yeah. and those changes have been conducted that means, but we now come back the organization to case activities in my company, in a more coherent way, taking measures which i left to people being yep. and it, but it's, you know, cool, that's an example of manual. so ended about it just to be 2 weeks ago at 4 and a half year sentence for armed robbery with a clear connection of getting money to send to the the, to take. now the teacher, kate doesn't conduct terrorist operations. as such, a was directed against sweden, the territory, but they collect money which they used to terrorist activities against that of key . so to, to you have had to dismiss claims, but the something building use this sum up man, the total key yet in order to sweeten, had fulfilled the cost of the ball game. and that means those of us, the product, the salts, of the reputation post is not waiting to talk response. he's a, he's a, um sign of this. um, but, you know, with me there was the recent comment though. however, from,

from the turkish vice president saying that we, we don't see a satisfactory level of implementation when we talk about those measures that you have taken. we have also seen air to one, you know, make a request from, from the united states, including the us selling f. 16 fighter jets to turkey as a precondition to your exception. you know, you've already taken all these measures that you've highlighted. they're ones that just too much for suite in what are your red lines? well, 1st of all, this is a fundamental change of swedish for it and security policy. the not responding to somebody is we have been a no, i mean to tell me a line from people for 2 centuries. so of course, the question of a few months doesn't seem very much from that perspective. and we have disappointed the tools. on the contrary, yesterday's news, well cause that source of joy, but we all through yet, we need to see the food reputation process happening to the t. okay. and then of course, also hungry. yeah,

let's talk more about hungry because they must also sign off there. the foreign minister has written you a very pointed letter, asking you to stop your politicians and press from criticizing congress democracy. otherwise it won't ratify your expression. the hungarians even uploaded that letter to twitter, and of course they know that you can't control what opposition politicians or price might be saying because of freedom of speech loss. so what do you think is that play here? the hungarian government, just looking for excuses to feel insulted. and how concerning is this or no, i think that's the darkest of the sort of it's in gary bottom as, as being very clear on the map. so saying that we will be the last, the last to rectify speed that has to be repeated both by a problem is the victim obama. no, so by my, for me just to call it and that means that the hungry is already committed itself. once the process in, in the key is on the way estimates. now,

we expect that's cation to start doing counting problems as well. and they only have the final votes left. they've already done the committee bucking performance. and also just on that the, on that same line, there's a difference also between 50 and hungry with the key. here we have had a memorandum, clear memorandum test, a take a test states was hungry, never asked for anything like that, but they accepted so we can give them the status as invitees as last year, summer team give them a break. so i think that the i'm getting parliament should move on with the reputation, and that is the position of us which comes som, especially in the global south, are looking at the wars and ukraine in the middle east as an approach that is least with the double standards one analyst. so saying there's a perception that the west tear is more about ukrainian, refugees, about ukrainian civilian suffering, then suffering and young men in gaza in sudan and syria. the former swedish prime minister carl build has said the following. this is something that we must deal

with. first of all, do you even recognize that there could be a double standard at play and how do you deal with it to? well, we have been very clear from all positive us or not costs. and especially in my statements, we tried to leave it at the united nations general assembly at west. it's very clearly that we need to take into accounts back to the training called big is something which, you know, is open goals and stuff or the world that because it means that you bring lots of those, the rules baseball order and the you and shelter will be gone and those are principals which means adult to a. ready office, but at the above and this is a good bathroom stand, but i do acknowledge what you say. we have to to take. we shouldn't have any double standards. we should apply the same standards when it comes to atrocities committed . we should also meet that means that the human is having problems which we not seeing goal stuff needs to be solved in order for this to be, you know,

a credible policy, overrated by the you. some diplomats or warning that the west is losing the global south. what is the danger here if the situation is, is not handled well by the you? if the south does not perceive that the west is handling the situation well and equitably? well that could be, uh, definitely that could be a sped, but i think that we are doing the right thing right now without seeking or reach out to be out of wells in looking full solutions, both to the hostage crisis in relation to the terry spoken inspection from us and also the question of the human to terry impulse, when it comes to goss, i'm ultimately the 2 state solution which needs to be both sold only by operating a whole base levels at the same time. can we maintain credibility of the global level, foreign minister based on what we have to leave it there. thank you so much for joining us on complex on. thank you for your time. i thank you very much.

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