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lead to a war of words yesterday, israel's un ambassador, called for the un secretary general to resign, accusing him of justifying acts of terror by him off. today, antonio gutierrez should pushed back by repeating what he said, and without saying the word is real. he made it clear who had misinterpreted what i bring golf in berlin. this is the day i or the i think that the secretary genuine must resign. i am shocked by the misery presentations by some of my statements yesterday in the security call. so how can the secretary genuine be with these words, just to be fairly in any way. the terrible atrocity that happened? this is false. it was the opposite. i believe it was necessary to set
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the record straight. obviously our government will have to make to reassess the our relations with the you and also it coming up israel's prime minister of feeling the heat as criticism grows over what he did before during and after the home off terror attacks. i can trust ego and his political career and is everything his ego and his legacy. well, this is his legacy blood on his hands, which of our viewers watching on tv, up to the united states and to all of you around the world? welcome. we begin the day running out of fuel and running out of time, the human agency helping couple of students in gauze a warrant today that it may have to shut down parts of its operations if no fuel is
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allowed into the territory by the end of today wednesday, fuel shortages are already taking a toll. the world health organization today confirmed that 12 of guns as hospitals are no longer open. now that is a 3rd of all hospitals inside the territory. when dr. in gaza, put it in start terms of saying once the electricity stops his hospital will begin turning into a mass. great. we have more now and this report relentless is really strikes on garza mean. ever more people are trapped under the rubble health care stuff are working tirelessly, crushing injured palestinians to hospital with critical supplies, including shrouds for the dead are running low. water pressure is so low.
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they are unable to operate. the central sterilization machine that we use for for sterilize our surgical equipment and the electricity keeps cutting out and were completely dependent on the fuel, which i understand is no longer coming in simple when the doctors are under pressure to consider fuel for the generators that hospitals are now relying on aid is trickling into gaza. israel is still looking fuel supplies about they look, we are aware that how much needs fuel they needed badly for that military infrastructure after that. so all the fuel from one run we'll discuss the issue of the fuel with the world. and if the hospitals are in peril across from us, other furs to on some of that, how much resupplied the fuels at the hospitals and to the full residents. the world must a month from how much of the un is warning that without
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more fuel it will have to hard. it's a to work. fuel is extremely urgent because without the fuel, the trash them go, cannot move without fuel. the generator is cannot produce electricity for hospitals, for big trees, for the water, the selling nation plus the white house as it is working to get fuel into gaza home and the time is running out. well my 1st guess tonight is the us diplomat. david hill, he is a former under secretary of state for political affairs. he also served as the us ambassador to pakistan living on and jordan. mr. investigates, could they have you with this tonight? let's talk about what's happening right now with the you. when the human security council appears unable to pass a resolution calling for a ceasefire in gaza, israel is accusing the un security, or secretary general of justifying acts of terror by her moss. i want to ask you as
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a diplomat, how do you describe what is going on at the you with right now? well, it reminds me a little bit of the negotiations over a security council. these fire in 2006, between israel and, and, and here's the law during the loving on more. and uh, you know, what's important really isn't a piece of paper from the security council. calling for a certain steps, but actually whatever the situation on the ground is going to provide environment in which the parties can somehow establish some stability and, and uh, and piece. and we're not there yet. um, you know, after the vicious attack by, i'm us on innocent israeli civilians is unrealistic to expect that israel just simply going to accept to see these fire. they're going to need interview. and frankly, i would say objectively it is true to reestablish the terms and reestablish their
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ability to defend their country. and they're not there yet. and how the you see this impacting the possibility of negotiating of a full hostage release. we know we're still talking about more than 200 people who are being held by him. us or yeah, i mean, this of course is separate from the security council which, which is pretty much irrelevant. and frankly, to, to that, um, we and israel are working through contacts which has relations come off with the wrong. and they have been able to produce the releases that we've seen so far. my suspicion is that, you know, you'll see more releases. but this is designed by him us to sort of us to ease out slowly one by $12.00 by 2 preps and less vulnerable hostages, which is obviously a release to everyone to, to see see them liberated. but it's really part of a strategy to maneuver against israel and to try to forestall the land
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defensive that we all expect to see the ground offensive that we all expect to see and gaza. you as president biden today, he called for a 2 state solution. also calling 1st settler violence to stop. it sounds like a reiteration of standing us policy. what should we read into it today? yeah, that's right. i mean, no administration has deviated from those basic principles. although president trump uh, have a slightly different position to use whatever the parties can agree to. it's fine to make those statements. that's fine to have those objectives. the question really is, what is the realistic path forward given the state of play since october 7 dot com and even before october 7 to the 2 state solution. neither side boston in nor is rarely has really invested seriously in an effort to reach that outcome. and their publics are cynical and skeptical, frankly, on both sides, that there is
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a viable path to a 2 state outcome is how would you grade us credibility right now in the region a be they are those who point to us policy in the middle east. it's is real and the palestinians and say that, you know, the us has largely been missing now for the past 10 years. um, how credible is the us right now? well, i would, i would challenge the statement that we've been missing. we may not have been doing things that certain actors want us to do, but the abraham, of course, was a major historic breakthrough in relations between nerve states and europe, states and israel. so i, i wouldn't accept that. what has been missing is a realistic path toward resolving the issues that the palestinians face. and that's a long, complicated story that i don't think we can good tackle in a sound. but then that again i, you know, i, person is involved and much of this and
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a key moments. both sides ran away from opportunities united states offered. i don't think the us wants to ever walk away from being able to play a constructive role in bringing these parties together and establishing peace. but we can't deliver things that those leaders themselves don't wish to achieve. do you, do you think there is some validity, though? to the statement that the us had had reduced or shifted, it's focus in the last few years. i mean, we've talked a lot about the pivot to asia for us foreign policy. and then you've also had the russian invasion of ukraine. did the events on october 7th, you know, force the united states to re focus on is really the palestinians. well, i never liked the phrase the, this. obviously, china is the significant geostrategic challenge for the 9 states. but that's a global challenge, and it's not just about the pacific. important as it is that when the re re prioritize and make sure that we have the military assets, we need to deter an attack on taiwan or and ensure the freedom of navigation in the
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south china seas. but the competition stopped and it includes the middle east. we need to make sure it china is not explaining the situation. and i'm also struck that all the parties in the middle east, at the moment of crisis like this. they looked in washington and they don't look elsewhere. and finally, our own interests are at stake, our energy interest, global energy, market stability, our friendship with israel and with key or a partners, our values of anti terrorism. all of this is at stake in the middle east. we can't walk away from it. and unfortunately, if we try to, we are minded at moments like this that, that's not an option before the events of october 7th, the binding administration had been clear and it's criticisms of netanyahu's push to reform is real, is introduced. hearing the yahoo! it was being called the police not a friend of the system. the checks and balances, considering that is he now is he still
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a credible partner for the united states is always the prime minister of israel. so we don't have it's not for us to choose. i, you know, i've seen every president during the night and you know, it was 10 year of close dealing with him and he's the israeli prime minister. american presence left the hate. but he selected time and time again. he will face accountability after what's happened once this cam pain is over and i suspect he's, he's going to have some difficulties, but it's not for us to choose. and i was uncomfortable, whatever. wherever you stand on the traditional question in israel, i'm uncomfortable when i see american officials try to dictate to foreign officials . mom should have democracy of how to conduct their affairs or do you get the feeling that the binding ministration, secretary st. anthony, blinking, that there has been an attempt somewhat to to least set a guard rails for israel to stay with then considering what's going on.
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well, in my experience, since ronald reagan and the seizure by route and the big blow ups that he had but knocking big and most american presidents have tried to avoid being in a position of advising is really good officials about military tactics. it's up to israel to defend itself. we provide our friend the support they need, but not dictating the charge, the, the, the military's decisions that they have to make because we don't want to own them. that's for them. i do sense that president barton is leaning a bit forward compared to the past, and i think it's, it's a responsible thing for an american president asked questions you know, what's next after this operation occurs, as it appears to be the, the plan for ground operation. what's next? uh, what are the, what's a realistic set of objectives for this campaign because we're together going to have to be dealing with the fall out from or. yeah, i think a lot of people um, in the middle east and on both sides of the atlantic are posing that very question
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. um, what is next investor, david hill, investor, we appreciate your time and your analysis tonight. thank you. thank you very much united these really government to any particular it's prime minister are facing growing criticism over there. handling of the aftermath of her mazda is terrorist attacks is really media reporting that benjamin that yahoo is at odds with his more cabinet in military generals. in the past weeks, we've seen the prime minister visiting troops across israel, especially the forces massing on these really gone to border ahead of unexpected ground invasion. but sources of sided bike is really media claimed that there was growing displeasure at his refusal to engage with military leaders. and that's in the all who have so far refrained from admitting that he made any mistakes before during and after the attacks by him off tonight we solve the 1st public show of self reflection. and, you know, who's saying that everyone will have to explain themselves, including himself as
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a basically citizens of israel. she bob october, the 7th was a black day and history. we will get to the bottom of what happens on the southern boulder around casa. they step back a will be investigated. everyone will have to give answers, including maintenance the whole of the 2 vote. gum i need, if a more now i want to bring in the w's minis, analyst ashanti was honest. so the very self aware benjamin netanyahu. tonight we know that the prime minister has come under criticism. did he deliver the message that these really people may have been expecting? well, 200 chinese families of hostages were expecting to hear something about the hostages . that did not happen, but he did bring himself to as close as i think we will ever get from him to here. i am as responsible, i apologize. i take responsibility for what happened. he said, it's clear to him this, this has been a great failure. and there's going to be a lot of hard questions to be asked,
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and he will be amongst those to be answering them. so that's close enough for many israelis. and we need to keep in mind this been 19 days, antonio has not had a single press conference. he's not facing the journalist, he's not pressing the facing the press. so he's not really answering the hard questions yet. yeah. um, so far he has support. but if he understands that he cannot last for too long, the military leaders in his real quickly acknowledge their failure to protect is released after october 7th. and he hasn't been any admission of political responsibility for the security failures on october 7th. well, if you're focused on the security failure, that's very easy for the politicians, you know, to, to put this as a feeler of intelligence, the army, that's a very safe spot for politicians. but there is, of course, the need within is really probably to look at the broader picture. what role the politicians have in their deeds, in securing or not securing and striving or not striving towards the political
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solution to the pasting. and the problem towards, you know, negotiating backdoor deals through contact with come out. so you know, this is something done by the political a, you know, level and not by only by, by the military. so in that aspect, um we have not seen enough of the political backbone of israel to stepping up and saying, you know, we'll to have that at stake and in this failure. the consensus now is let's 1st fight and then deal with everything else. but it's also is we are learning that this fight will take very long time. and there's also an understanding that may be harder. questions still need to pop up before hand and receive a former chief of staff of the israel defense forces saying that then yahoo should resign. now. others saying that the government, it's dysfunctional. i mean it's, it's not a pretty picture me. what do we know about the views of active military leaders in israel? acts of an entirely or are silent. we know about some risk regarding operational
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issues. for example, the ground up are, you know, invasion. is it coming when it's coming? should we have more uh, human terminate coming in or less, but when it comes to nothing else political future, we don't hear anything of that sort. um we do hear amongst electricians. even from that and the i was party, more and more voices saying it is clear that he will not be able to stay much longer in his position once the fighting is gone. and it's still yet to be seen if they will live up to that or where will hit the kid. and we've seen that to know is masterful in finding his way out or even from the most our crisis or you think you'll survive this more. i think this, the chances are very slim, but i also think that we all know too good in order to be too quick to say that he will not be able to survive. that's very good for, i mean, he's been reading off too many times before. let me ask about a biddy guns. he is a member of this emergency unity government and he is a man with
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a lot of military experience. all right, is he crucial to this? we're having a successful in he is crucial. i mean, the, the right wing of a parts of mr. know, i always government, they say, well, he's part of the conception that failed. but then we, he is quite crucial because this is what we do. and we look at the americans, you know, blink did not make it as well before the unity government was announced. netanyahu had, you know, what enlarging, the government has helped and gain the credibility from the people. but also from a big i like the us. we know that when blinking was around and he was sitting with the cabinets at the unity ministers, it was important for him to include them in the picture. we know that they're present as a more moderate balancing act. in, in this, in the us government is very, very important in that aspect of getting control, you know, getting support for the 20th and the, i'll extra the, how much of these, these problems would you say go back pre october 7th, and i'm thinking about that. and yahoo, pushing for these judicial reforms,
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a lot of people, critics, even the, by the ministration saying he's attacking the checks and balances system of government. well, the voices within israel, it's still in the margin saying that the, the enemy, that him us saw the fragility of these really society and, and started can take advantage of it and we have seen it was quite successful. there are these voices so far still in the margins but, but it's, it's, and we've seen a, an unbelievable unity among, you know, from all rags from old orthodox and app as well as everybody joining in, in these crucial moments in this term. we know facing this, this attack, but we also know this will not list for too long. you know, uh the visions are already starting to come, you know, to the surface when it comes to hostages, when it comes to the mentoring crisis when it comes to policy. and then, you know, the hawks will remain hawks that does. the reno was paid ups and ends now is as a hawk, and he's surrounded by hawks shiny roads, honest as always, we appreciate you coming in. we appreciate your analysis. thank you. you're welcome . here in germany,
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the cabinet is approved the draft bill to speed up the d port taishan of asylum seekers whose applications had been rejected. germany's government is under pressure to tighten the asylum rules as the number of refugees claun. the interior minister nancy phase has taken the next step toward her goal of toughening germany's immigration rules. her new draft bill approved on wednesday 6 to make it easier and faster to deport people who are still in the country, despite not having the legal right to say. for example, because there was silent request was rejected. the feeling in the government is that the current system desperately needs work and as an added burden to german, he's overwhelmed immigration system. last year, all thirties failed to carry out 2 thirds of the around $36000.00 plan deportations on the way in order to protect the fundamental right to assign them. we must significantly limit irregular migration. those who don't have the right to state
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must leave our country to fill out the number of reports, variations the series already around 20000 percent, the tire and the same period last year. but there is still an urgent need. fraction comes on stuff. people can currently be held in pre deportation, custody for up to 10 days. the plan is to extend this to $28.00 days to allow all stories more time to repair. police would also have greater access to a person's accommodation or phone, making it easier to confirm their identity and carry out the deportation. the government also wants to accelerate the expulsion of convicted smugglers and possibly the most controversial proposal. members of organized crime groups could be reported even if they have not been convicted of a crime as already occurs for members of terrace groups. experts, question whether the measures will actually have an effect the likely increased deportations best, but i think it's not going to be
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a game changer because like i said, the main reason why a declination stale is the lack of corporations with countries of origins and the absence of, of legal documents in here, it's hard to, to make big changes. parts of the governing coalition, like some members of the green party, but especially migrant and refugee are going his ations. see the proposed changes as being too severe. they ask whether the measures would even be legal, saying they are at least legally questionable. it's not unconstitutional. well, i'm doing here by raphael, both song, he's a political scientist at the german institute for international and security affairs, or mr. both on what do you think the german government felt that it had to do what it did or the cabinet had to do what it just it? well this has been amazing for some time. it's the result of some consultations between the federal level and the lender level and the committed the regional states that have to actually deal with the documentation. so they asked him
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pressuring the government to bring the numbers down to have a more sort of restrictive implementation. and this has been discussed for several times, like over the summer and now it's out in the open and politically. obviously the top level leadership including the chon slapping on the increasing pressure to signal that things are changing. some critics of this new law say that it's unconstitutional. i don't think you can say that in this blanket terms. there are various provisions that can be discussed and that are maybe borderline chance. well, for example, for what reasons can you be held at attention like do you need a reason? the proportion is the last measure for long? or can you be given there sort of a sort of decision to leave just because you're a member of a potential criminal organizations? you're not a convicted criminal, so they're all lose come as part of that progression dollar. she questions that have to be resolved, but i think it's not overall as a law, you can say it's going to far. do you think we're seeing this,
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this new legislation being suggested or being talked about because of what we've been seeing with political parties right now we've been seeing the rise of the far right. if the, the alternative for germany and we've got a new party now a new left just party, which will have an anti immigration platform. well, obviously this is the pressure i was talking about. um, but we also have to say, i mean there are some fanatic useful things in there, but it is most the political signal because even with his law, if it's implemented, it's going to probably increase it only by a few 100 people that you're going to report and we're talking with hundreds of thousands of people in germany. so it really is this kind of atmosphere that they're trying to serve. and yes, obviously you have on the right, but also on some very conservative left now. yeah, actors just say we have to protect the well for state are, are they, are they the arguments valley you hear voters saying that the current system but deportations is not working. that you have people here. they've been rejected as asylum seekers. and yet they're not being deported. while the answer is actually
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rather complex, i mean, this is an issue that any country really faces in the west. i mean, look at the us, look at also other countries with very, right, when governments, initially they all have troubles to really, you know, have a one on one. everybody has to leave the country, leave the country, know. so having said that, obviously they'll also administrative things that it can be tightened. that can be made more efficient in germany, but it is only a relative improvement on we always have to live with the fact that there was a gap between this kind of formal legal claim and then individual circumstances. why you copy reported why it's not proportioned. that's available song as always, we appreciate your time, appreciate you coming in the night. thank you. welcome. as well, the day is almost done, the conversation continues online. you'll find this on the x also known as twitter or either it need to be news. you can follow via brent golf tv and remember when ever happens between now and then, tomorrow is another day. we'll see you then everybody, the
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