to, under the cover of darkness is rarely tanks rolled into the gauze and strip the military calling, get a brief incursion, preparation, and a rehearsal for the next stage of fighting a war against a boss that has become a war of words at the united nations today. israel, she went to a basset or deliberate, a fiery argument against any resolution, calling for a ceasefire in gaza. the ambassador telling the general assembly, israel is not at war with human beings. he said, we are at war with monsters. i broke off in berlin. this is the day, the 7000 palestinians have been killed, but is in the last, almost 3 weeks. these are at least not that the war with human beings. we are at war with monsters. these are crimes. this is barbara's,

our goal is to completely eradicate commodities capabilities and we've, we've used every mean that's our disposal. to accomplish that, stop the bonds and save lives. also coming up the war in ukraine had the world's attention until the her mazda attack on israel forest. a re focus is russia. seizing an opportunity. tonight, we look at the battle for a beef. i do agree plenty of ukrainian army has well defended positions fits troops and it's telling me that's why it won't be able to inflict such a serious loss is on the russian forces for to our viewers watching on p. b, as in the united states and to all of you around the world. welcome. we begin the day with the 9 time rehearsal for an invasion. last night is rarely tanks rolled into the gaza strip and then rolled back out the military calling the brief

incursion a preparation for the next stage of fighting. it came just hours after his really prime minister. benjamin netanyahu told the nation that a ground invasion remains likely. he did not give any clues about when that invasion might begin. or when the sun rose over god's or thursday. so did is really rockets the bombardment of gauze that continuing on this the 20th day of this war since october 7th, where the 8000 people in israel and, and gaza have died making this the deadliness of the 5 garza wars for both sides. and the warm it has dominated meetings this week at the united nations, the un security council, and the you in general, assembly transformed into battlefields of words and ideas this week of scene heated exchanges over efforts to hold the fighting in the gaza strip. israel is demanding the resignation of you in chief antonio gutierrez,

accusing him of remarks and justifying terror attacks by how mos on wednesday. gutierrez said he was shocked at the misinterpretations of his words. and today, at the general assembly, the middle east and its deep divisions. they were on show yet again, the calling for the past 16 years, the international community and the un has been complacent to how much that they will build up in guys a come place and the world has kept its head in the sand. that's how much imbedded it's me size and rocket deep. we've in under the civilian population of garza and this would be defended. these are crimes. this is barbara's and if you do, if you do not stop it for all those who can stop it for all those whose lives we can still save my 1st gifts

tonight is a man who helped bring is released and palestinians as close to peace as any one, you'll see violence is considered the architect of the 1994, also level chords between israel and the palestinian liberation organization. he served as administered justice and religious affairs under prime minister, a who brock it since that. and he has remained committed to a path to peace just last year. he supported a proposal for an israeli palestinian confederation, an idea that seemingly fell on deaf. yours mister biling, it's good to have you with this to night. this week we're having me. when you look at what happened at the, the you, when this week with the un secretary general said that the october 7th attack did not happen in a vacuum. that prompted, is rose even ambassador to demand of the secretary general resign. what did you think when that happened, of all the issues a,

somebody who supports is ryan who believes in ease, read, well, believe seem piece was shocked by what you will, but what he's so in the region and a regret 40, he was rejected. and when he asked that to visit is a few days ago, i don't know why these rarely government decided to do something like that. he made a huge mistake by saying that a that, that, that they, they crazy crazy eyes. these kind of a dock against a babies and, and women and, or do a people a or was not in a vacuum because it was not the situation that in which they come as people are saying we would like to was piece with use what we would like to a divide delay and we would like to leave the beast and it is impossible because value unemployed. and, and because the and there is wally in dire a room,

they had to do stuff. you know, this is the situation that perhaps, well the suggestion of the 1st thing, the father of the but his being is against easy way in 87. what happened is something which is totally crazy. it is not drinking anywhere. and rather than totally rejecting the, he gave the impression, although he did not say that he, he understood what the, how much they did. but if it was nothing ivank you, then you'll give some kind of legitimacy that the meant that he would it would resign is a big mistake of is way e, i don't think that they, he deserves that says such a and at the, to the easy way to with him, let me ask you this week on wednesday in the times of israel, the is really right, or you'll see kline holland, the road to blame the occupation and its consequences wholly on israel is to

dismiss the history of his really peace offers in palestinian rejection, or has the world forgotten what you and others achieved with the oslo accords in 1994? you'll, you know, such a question to which the answer is, is because if it goes be asked and should be as visa v, the piano, the bit always old dot net and we had absent downs with the piano. how much is something is how much doesn't pulled anything from us. they don't want to, to divide the land. they don't want to have peace, which is right. and this is why it was a mistake to allow some us to ronnie the elections of 2006, and to remain in delete the she of guys the despite of all the de violent and count those that we have with the we had with each other, but the point is that these really right,

so how much is it bit the into look at the o naples then the bill because the be an o wanted and wants to divide the land. this is the major issue between us and them and drive the then understanding that this was also the interest is way they refilled and need to look at the well didn't want anything from us, but the we're going to disappear just by the i want to, i want to come back to how much of just a 2nd, but i want to stick with history for a moment. the the oslo accords. they did not mention the establishment of a palestinian state. was that a mistake? is that something you regret now? a this was a request, the thing is, they say we don't want to mention the it, but it's being in state as one of the issues that should be sold to with the permanent agreement. there were 5 issues, like bold is if you get

a drizzle name and the sting of state. and they explained the because they said this is ella rifles. the donation and we have don't need to from you need to go see asians of the principal of the police being a state. so because not that is what i said no way we, we should talk about that. but the thing is that, i mean, or the negotiate does new that to be able to talking about the a o thinking about the other thing is that there is no other solution. well, that they're going to need to have a club. i mean, it is a state, but it does not mention because they said that they didn't want to to discuss if they didn't want to negotiate it because they weren't the best. was there right? this is the reason. so that the, the question is whether it was possible to get a 93 permanent agreement rather than an interim agreement or 5 years. and when

i understood that we had positives in also they being oh, a people will people with whom i believe because strike could be i went to a rep being to the problem and it's been a since we missed department is the i believe that we should not well, we should note it tried to have a 5 year agreement right now. there is in the book, you only do which may be a very rail to go for the building at the agreement so that the extremist on both sides would not have a bill for unity to afloat. oh, well, iphones. he explained that issue, he referred to go along the madrid conference guidelines, the american guidelines, and often entering the group. it's 5 use it rather than getting that directly to a permanent agreement which may not succeed, the negotiations may not succeed for permanent agreement. and they,

i believe that this was a very big mistake. miss brown, let me bring it up now into the present in an interview last month about 3 weeks before the october 7th, the tax. you gave an interview to the spanish newspaper l parties, and you were quoted as saying the palestinians tragically have become resigned to their limited options. and this disappointment feels the divide between a boss and photo would. would you say that today considering this global course of support that we are seeing now for the palestinians and godson where is this? the support is, is very popular, not the key or no pay the people who fill out the piano, the biggest and they me so from us, how much just you know, through them from the roof of guys uh, in 2007. when they 2 guys up by falls, is it that i mean, even now when we are trying to think about what to be in the morning after the end

of the well go should through guys uh, if he's with succeeds to prevent the how much for continuing control guys, then the piano is not in a hurry to get the bill to, to get back to, to a guys that a because of the, i mean mostly the to well, it's them. so even when you hear that thing, joe, then i mean other places people are saying, oh oh oh, comparing what they, how much viewed on that black set the date a few weeks ago and, and they and what usually it needs to be very asian. does you know that, you know, the people who hold their motivations? you know that how much is an estimate of, of many, many forces in the middle east? well, would like to see, is way this does seem to them from governing. they get the guys

a streak that they k delta deal public opinions, and this is a problem year you said before the october 7th attacks that the jewish settlements in the west bank, well one of the biggest obstacles to piece the current government, the one that was in place before october so that it was the 1st ever it is real to make an ex agent of the west bank. a stated objective and it's coalition agreement . i mean, there had to really staying for someone like you why i, i believe that today the car in governmental is very laid by it and it done. the old is a big obstacle for peace fight cents. and the encouraging a moles that domains all housing you'll need seeing the guidance of domains is a, is a very, very big a obstacle. you and one of the ideas that they, i suggested it but not, not only me is a group of bodies genius. and he's really,

the police being in group is led by the wto. he by who's saying he is the way of, as you mentioned before, a configuration that holy land configuration of ease wetland, by this time in the future, which we allow all those settlers. so we find themselves in the bodies being in state. once we draw a boulder between ease, wet and biased, i duly main. do been in a by this time is a, it was, it is a, it will say palestine and they seek is dental use way. why the same number of but a senior citizens who would like to live in east way and we'd be allowed to do that as spellman in a residence. so then you can really a take off the table or the issue of evacuating hundreds of thousands of they offered a set list. and if, if they just removed, i believe that the way for an agreement will be open. and since

sometimes in history or many times in his history, the full, its full piece will accelerated as a result of what you hold that this very said situation when we see our saves now fighting in gaza. and of course, the videos of heat and software and, and pay the prize even if we all feeling the median devices, you'll have to leave their homes even. there is no such a big a or positive a or a nouns made full of them. i believe that it might deal with the current situation . the current tragic situation may be and etc ration was please if we all wise enough to use these up up to anything. but that is a positive way to end our segment, mr. by then. unfortunately, we're out of time, but we certainly appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts with us tonight. mr. you'll see violent. thank you. thank you very much.

well, the middle east conflict is diverted. the world's attention away from the boy in ukraine. russia has been trying to seize the moment. it's been stepping up. it's a salt in the east of the country. one of the main areas that russia has been trying to capture is the ukrainian town of deep cap keep has been reporting heavy funding there in the past few weeks. it says that despite the heavy losses, russia continues with its attempts to take the town. let's take a closer look now at the situation on the front line and what seems to be one of the most contested points in the conflict right now. this is after you've got ukrainian control city, just 10 kilometers from 10 yards of the month. some of the defensive russian forces going full out again to create new positions. here the fighting is most intense. but ukraine is that the time to prepare, developing,

and reinforcing its defenses since rushing back to purchase took over nearby to net back in 2014. in russia is now coming up against the very same problems that the ukrainians did during that summer offensive. to me, it was easy to lose you, you, you, people in your ukrainian army has well defended position, the french troops. and it's all telling me that's why and will be able to inflict such serious losses on the russian forces and prevent them from advancing about offer, give capital speed, the pool of do you get lucy's can risk on your credit. your forces can direct out to the re, strikes from the safety of deep underground positions and oversee everything with the help of drones. when russian soldiers leave their own with vehicles, ukrainians control grenades on them from above. cranes, military claims russia has lost more than 2000 soldiers enough to have caught your zip. where are you? if the russians had been able to clear the client in mine fields,

we would have seen that all my vehicles making more progress as it is the stuck in convoys on not a very well they become easy targets to create in forces liquid. in the same, you know, cleans confused. ukrainian military blog is posted face video, showing what they say is one of the drones destroying a russian flag on a hill overlooking the city. the message is clear. even russia symbolic gains, and after you've got the going to be short lived. this map was compiled from open source data by the institute for the study of war and shows areas considered to be russian gains in yellow. at most, let's say russian forces have advanced by an estimated 1.5 to 2 kilometers, still fall from surrounding of the of cub fighting ukraine this summer and autumn has shown the 20th century mind fields and defensive positions can still make things almost impossible for 21st century, always come spring, but ukraine and russia. i like to to look for place to tech. the tech knew anything

like have difficult places where the enemy hasn't had a chance to begin. i remember rowland is a military analyst at the worst studies department of keens college london. i asked her why russia is focusing its forces on a gift. now, despite the heavy losses there, good evening. well, that is a good question. we have to go back a little bit to 2014, and that is one of the ukranian troops started for defining their positions. and i of the, of the, of the, of got by the russians is consumed or is a key to controlling the dumbass and to liberating the so called bonus people's republic. so for russia of the of card is very important and especially because the russians are always claiming that the crating is by using their artillery to sheldon. that's so that would be one political and strategic reason for liberating

of the of car from the russian perspective. and the other idea is that the russians one to control the view of cohort lift the highway and also open up the road to chrome at work. so it does have logistical advantages. and given the geographic position of, of the, of crime, the features that it's on, on an elevator, the area. so they would be on high ground. the russians, if they took of the of which would give them a certain advantage as well, and help them reinforce their defensive positions there. you know, we, we talk a lot about mines drones, artillery and these weapons appeared to have locked in the front lines, making a breakthrough extremely difficult for both sides. is there any way to overcome an opponent that is so well entrenched, you know, be russia or you correct as well? if you need from the ukrainian perspective, what do you bring in? moultrie is trying to do a certain noise or a waste you or come this seeming died lock,

and that would be to try and over stretch rushes capabilities and look for weak spots and rushes defenses along the entire line of contact along the entire front line. and that could be one way of avoiding this deadlock. another way is what your brain has been doing because of lack of progress in the condo offensive ins, operation of what would be targeting so called high value targets, such as logistical nodes, command and control centers. the black sea fleet h q, for instance. so trying to broaden the operational spectrum and to where down the adversary's. and for the russians, the russians are on the defensive. now was what put in paul's active defense enough to you've got down play the whole situation. so they are waiting out until the ukrainian side run sort of themes they want to seize and ukrainian capabilities

degraded as much as possible. and so as we're entering this complicated season was mod. and then later on, frost, i think the russians might be preparing for a follow up counter offensive, and we're seeing movement in gun square seeing movement in of the of go. so the russians are trying to ensure that the ukrainian forces cannot concentrate in one specific location. and of course, long range strikes on infrastructure and is another option. how effective will western bade precision weapons? i'm thinking about attack, them's storm shadow. how effective will they be in breaking this apparent deadlock as well? it depends on how they're used. for instance, for um, storing shadow. let's consider those for souls. our air, the surface missiles, so they require fighter aircraft to be fire. the ukraine has so 24 and so 27

for those purposes that happens specifically adapted for delivering the missiles. now, what is important is to know which targets you want to strike because one storm shadow was callous. and this will cost the $3300000.00 us dollars. so they are very expensive. they have various cars and it will, it, they can certainly make a difference, but they have to be integrated into the overall operational design and they have to be deployed against hires and targets that otherwise wouldn't be able to be destroyed with other camps. um it is a little bit different. um they have smaller warheads also they also have were heads for hard targets. they are easily intercepted though much easier intercepted because of their um tell my ballistic trajectory, but they are being fired from highmore system. sometimes systems is something that the creating armed forces know how to operate, so that potentially makes it easier,

which would essentially mean that the whole russian control territory including crimea, will be within the ukraine, are still res range. let me get your opinion before we've been all the time. the violence in the middle east, israel's more against a moss. the world's attention is re focus the area. it's not on you cream like it was. does this help or hurt the ukrainian calls? as i think it's unfortunately, it doesn't look very good for ukraine because there is a shortage of amunition for artillery ammunition. so ukrainians much more. an artillery ammunition it needs fighter jets. it needs all sorts of military equipment to be able to push the russians back, and i was a focus shifting to israel and the potential that the conflict might boil over into a broder of war in the middle east. all focus and all funds are being funneled there, meaning that you pray and will be put on the backburner and there, however,

we have to understand that without aid and without no trade and humanitarian aid ukraine cannot continue fighting, especially since russia is gas, is being able to produce more artillery emulation and getting in help from north korea, the made are countries on the us simply cannot compete. and this is what put in is actually waiting for is that the west runs out of sources to fund the the were a new crane that was military analysts breeding around speaking with me earlier. the day continues online. you'll find this one ex, formerly known as twitter, and youtube dw news. you can follow them via brent golf tv. and remember, whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day. we'll see you then everybody, the

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