this is a global energy transformation, really cost of the forward as well or is it for our $2.00 pa, document tree renewables? revenue? same jobs november 25th w. hello, and welcome to a special edition of the 77 percent. i'm your host, christine with the with 80 k thing. let's show it to a straight debates. we did into kind of call and say in northern kenya, that is a region that has been severely impacted by climate change. it hasn't reinvent. so more than 2 years now and have a listen to what the people have to kind of who depend on land for this survival and livelihood towards my pony. it is carolina this week

on the 77 percent street debate. by the end of the week, i will renew the if we die from hunger nowadays. where will the government get the support? but they usually get from us. video we dropped is obviously a front and center issue here. and you can see that he is already having real consequences. this is a very big the bid to the bus to release competitive we, we almost hit the conversations around global climate issues and the climate change is not top a few minutes conversation is really something that needs community to see together create localized solutions to their own problems. hello and welcome back to the 77 percent in his 1st no grow international address. ken as president william brutal vote. the club i'm

a change would be central to this government. well, we're here into cannot the most of can you have to find out what challenges lay ahead of him for this problem is, and i have some lovely people here to try and explain what exactly is happening in this region. i'd like to start to see a cause an a good nomic engineer, but just to give us an overview of the claimant profile of this area, what is the nature of the, of the weather patterns and how has that changed over time? so this is a code to which is an additive, see me add an area and the communities of livelihoods is highly affected by the climate change. because when we have the change in with the buttons, that means that we look visitation cover for them like stroke. we also have challenges with water because for crop production we relate a lot or knob of hers that useful in addition, and when we have a extreme with the conditions, that means that the water levels also go down. well, thank you so much for that summary and i want to come now to mamma here who lives in this area because i need to have to kind of woman and they just want to find out

for me. mama, what have you seen changing over the years when way you planting? when was it raining and how has that changed since the one you can me, and i hope all is the a. yep. i mean, we've been having a serious drought that has killed a live stuck with the people are hungry, especially women and children. and they're only living by the grace of god. you guys go, i'm very, you know, look like you can. can she remember a time when there was no drought when it was absolutely okay. the rains were predictable. there was still able to form a little bit around what are the amalgam is what i would do. but now that i'm in our group that on the now the la sometime back, but it rained once in a while. we even practice agriculture. i keep growing some smoke. i'm out using rain water. but the last 6 years we've not been receiving enough rain. got very good so i'll farms have dried up to what and now the pool and left was nothing in

the in the email, probably. so dropped is obviously a front on center issue here. and you can see that he is already having real consequences. this by the way, being the 5th consecutive failed really season the this region of the great honda of africa is experiencing. so come and someone to come to you because you're the ranking member from the minister of environment in this region. how bad is the situation statistically talking about if it goes, how many people are sleeping hungry going without water? because of what we're discussing here clement's interest really took on the account since 1969, the temperature in took on account of increased by 2 degrees. use up to on the bus, to least county to 70 percent of the people in this county depends on livestock production and then the remaining 15 to 20 percent of fish. i'm intrigued us on the bay part. it's like you've got to see is done. why do you up to now?

we've got experience innovation. so these a lot to kind of info in about time to kinda come to you as compared to 15 years ago. so kimberly, let me come to you because you a radio hos team this region. are you hearing the impact of what's, you know, what we're talking about food and security, lack of a range, even flooding in some cases. how is that affecting the social structure of the area? we have visited some areas and actually i've seen the impact just like 50 kilometers from here. like 3 weeks ago, we went and met people, a group of people group of 50 age people who will age because he's overcome me. yeah. yeah. and it really affected them because now they ended up with issues of the area for me to an old. i tend to in you, you, you, you wonder why you people 18 these kind of food and then they'll tell you that these little foods we look right to look left and we cannot find anything to do

that. i'm just trying to figure out, you know, looking around it might be difficult for somebody to imagine how do you survive in this environment on why stay in this environment if it's so harsh, i think, uh, we are supposed to, i just came here and uh, we saw yeah, and that's the way of living for our side of so we can move from maybe here too late or k new because uh that does pick defines that good deal. so you're talking about conflict because of grazing. yeah. can you expand on that please? yeah. the confusion between the, the videos community yeah, into kind of so that aspect of in security things of, uh, a folding security because if there's no food, this is a good campaign. so because of that, there's no pasta. there's no water. so they must go and take it from there. okay, so you brought up something really important, which is one of the impacts of climate change being conflict. but i want to come to

your dominique because there's another phenomenon which is a climate migration. and i know parts of your family have been forced to move from one of these areas into another one in such of literally greener pastures. the moment we are talking about the bus, or at least moving from kenya, closing the border to going to a place called the inside for busta. and this is what is causing the conflict we are hearing about. yeah, exactly, this is what is causing the brunswick because when you go there, of course you'll find people. so when the, when the, when one of the community that's going to community. now that is most thing that is moving to, to that place insightful pasta. it creates a situation that whereby they, they want to where are the ones, what of the animals, the ones busta away the same community also ones the same. so i mean, it creeps up, it's good, some conflict. okay, vicki, let me come to you. we've been quite on the side for a little bit of the, the women and how they're affected. because yesterday, as we were walking around in this homestead behind, we had that the men when knocked around because they've gone to look for pastor

elsewhere. and so the women have been left by themselves. what is that doing to the women of this community? such stream uh, community has been pluses, since time immemorial. and one thing that uh, this uh, issue of climate change and the frequent migration in such a pasta in water has really contributed to, uh, uh, pulling up most mortgages. and also i've sent to them of buttons in their children slate on june the hotel to fix the most of the development of children. as a lovely additional bundrum, you find most of the possible bustle grew. that is, know the indigenous women don't even get to go to school because we believe that in our community it is the father, the discipline, to the baby. so it's really uh when it's about 4 months of a lack of development community development. because uh, if we uh, adequate to them going to school and we don't get the further the good the, you know, houses because the men can go up to 3 months that can go up to 6 months cuz he's

gonna take him even particular with us to me the next board you're talking about very important issues here, including how dry it isn't that difficult to, to get food and water. and i want to ask why my like today if you wanted to get to what, uh, where do you go and find it? how far is it and what do you do on a daily basis to sustain yourself to feed yourself and your family when it was done in college? one of the, you know, whether or not that when we get water from far away woman as low as the this fluid has no more ton of the drinking water from the pool, about 10 kilometers away from here. and once we fetch the water, we go looking for wild fruits in the bush along the tucker river. i'd be glad. at the moment we're only eating food from a local palm tree. that'd be cool angle. yeah. the only and i'm wondering is the at the make choose from it and mix it with mayflower. well, that could be wider than we did. that's how we survived the diet. we used to have

other fruits, but they dried up and i'm no longer there. i think the you, you put to the company that bought on at the dap our new, although not though we do it okay. now is why i'm up on top of that would be one reason. finally, we're coming to hear your voice. we're hearing some very dark things on the other side, but these for the security to mon nutrition and may be under nutrition, possibly young girl is getting married off early because the basics you don't have any other choices. so i guess my question is, where do we even begin to resolve this? where and you are busy saying, but perhaps looking at contemporary solutions like i tease the way forward, but can we even do that yet? uh, good question. i think the debate to the climate change has not done any goods to our local communities. maybe bits of climate change. sometimes i say it's a professionally bit that's on least have the needs of a few clinical people or,

or aims to gain and profit from this kind of a bit. because if this debate was meaningful, then this the bed, would it be translated into the local people's lives because he is weight or is that's what you're getting all these then what we left, we were on the left with innovations. how do we ensure that we create, you know, verify ideas that we need to get them to benefit the young people of the present generation. because the young people of the present generation of the 100 percent population of multi generation. and so if we don't do something to the present generation, then there's nothing we have talking about the presto, and you see me is getting into like a, we shall not be speaking over you. and then explain to us if special investment change, he's made a very important point present that's local and it enough communities i left out of some of these benefits. i left out of conversations regarding them. do you think this is true and how do we remedy that? i work in the pots most the quote,

the for them. and one of the challenges that to key or that to evidence is the fact that even when we come up with solutions, then the community center. so you come up to a place and then you're like, okay, this, this place maybe they need, they need food and then you're like, okay, well we, we to establish problems, but you're not keen or not what start to just get new use in the distributions. come from the community, so communities have to be involved right from dispatch. so i want to ask them about because i, yeah, there was a charge me that we're not asking the indigenous people what they really want. so i need to ask you, if you were the president of this country, what do you think you would give the people of to kind of to try and solve this problem of climate change that i am on. but i don't have any, i know you around the yeah, i really yeah, i got a letter that we didn't have. so if i was the president, i had the resources,

i would help the people because leaders are elected to help this village and the entire country needs help in terms of what to food and other things to come up with . that's why we elect leaders. i could be, i could not be even a now you got them on a couple of me, let me get a, a young american with a lie. so i want to ask the people who was sitting at the back then maybe you can help me. i can they remember the last time a locally that came a suck with them about climate change? if they couldn't remember, just resent hands and put up into the mob. no, no. oh the she actually looks disgusted, i guess because of the state of leadership. so coming to have to come back to this, so many policies, these even a beautiful climate change act and just county. and yet people are still feeling disconnected from the leadership. how is that possible? you said we didn't of frameworks in place, so we need to have structures which would include up to communicate with the public,

to the masses on my desk with the clements introducing the additional not even loading. and that's why i was the local government to go to go to the took on the we, so we saw who we do to. it's very necessary for us to come up with the policies act on doing clements in front of commercial. the accounting government came up with this most and formed even the communities this community, the world clements is going to give me a shout on this low a positive, nothing left to you know, up to about november we saw 5 from the budget committees. we have kind of lead training the committee so that they understand because one of them and that is to subsidize the community 12 meetings at the local level, and i'm sure they told me to come and meet these community in the future. so let me ask present and then i'm going to come to you because he was speaking, you will actually laughing as of what he was saying was fiction. well, why, why is that? no, no, i was sad because i am one person was also participated in one of the climate change initiatives by the come to government. the truth of the month is

a lot of investment is being invested into the climate change initiatives, especially by the ministry of environment of these codes. and some of us have been privileged to be part of that conversation. the question which you shouldn't be asking ourselves. well, the right people to really participate in such kind of conversations as you see those or can speak english and be invited. it'll be cortez to discuss clement issues. or is it the read people down on the ground or should be the majority of the participants inside conversations? and as i left before, even this issue is not just about to come to government is about the or approach how the climate change conversations is happening. these notes at the national, the national level on the international level. and this is vickie mentioned at the beginning to kind of county is really last is really big. that not enough resources to reach everybody. so the truth of the month the easiest conversation was

happening. but also decided, reality is we are not reaching everybody, but something is happening. so let me ask them in a quick question because of the young people, isn't that our responsibility to be that bridge between the older generation that may be the ones were not speaking the language as we're speaking in boardrooms. and you know, being that go between wise and that happening, what do you have? i don't know, making sure that the information they get from that uh the, the many things that the line from schools to hold a bit about the climate change are supposed to be that's supposed to put it in the local context unexplained to, to the people. but you see the young people, we have a vision, so we have cool concerns that we use to locate. we used to do a lot of things. we also need to stop what we need support in terms of logistics in terms of transportation, in terms of the capacity to come and talk to the people. let me come back to kimberly then, because you did bring up the media when you're discussing these issues. it's probably in the local dialect. are we speaking boardroom language to people who

should, who already know the issues in a different time in knowledge. okay, that's one big challenge. most of the time, we try and get uh, expertise to be somebody who knows. and who can translate it? i know way that they come on 19 to kinda understand so because no, we live late getting sent to the mixed. we have locals from other counties. so we mix swahili and the, the local dedlock so that to at least everyone can kind of get to understand what we're trying to see. maybe just adding something, it's important to know that even the impact of climate change in itself, he conducts community participation. take on example of what mama was saying. she has to wake up at 6. she has to face what she has to, but look for for the conversations around global climate issues. and the climate change is not top a few minutes conversation is what it is, something that needs community to see together. take the time,

create localized solutions to their own problems. that is the time you're talking about. and that is the most important time, especially for a pass to list a post, only somebody to us to look at the 50 kilometer. i was looking for what looking for bus doesn't take me. so limited for this community is just not even engaging on such kind of conversation. so what is actually working? can you give me examples of adaptation and mutation? things that are being done which are actually working. we are not the cause of this climate change. the global know about the course, we have self funding of hopefully going countries on specifically and took into account. you've experienced the clement sense for us to adopting these clement to conditions on the boat on the petition onto the sleeves. and that's why the county budget, almost 8 percent of going to budget is that'll get it was clements. in addition, how a coach of government is doing what top project, for example,

we've read over 1100 boards just to catch this really is to ensure that people are getting water waived the main things clements most likely cut. so we are in the program so and improve improvement of beats, so that we can of clemency incompletes and click on the county. and so many of the visual i'm about to be okay, so let's see how we've had what government is doing. but when you look at countries like egypt and as well, you get the sense that we could be doing so much more. a good cause for production, especially in the northern part of the country. you request a lot of interest in talking of because we have over 1000 for who's updated to had mentioned both of those really by putting those both in those do by the code to government dealing a boy who is a huge, huge investment because you have to do you have to be quick entity. so said that so many of this boy who's cut into the do not have to as much as a cut into these a low to we are doing both as puts us in the code to government. our efforts to

actually diminished because like, what more can we do right now other than having my dislike responses, we're hearing a lot about money and investment and rightfully so. where do we go from here? if the international community does not contribute and we don't have enough money, where do we go next? yeah, that's they, they decided part of this conversation that these economy politics. i'm the, the re, re entities or the account in the mid you are going to be with us of the problems we are facing today. unfortunately, i the ones that are holding the light, just a waste of money and resources that we need. and so it's a balance between lifting this money goal according to what we believe and what we gain so much into. so there's no holding ms. bourne investigations out loud and funding issues around climate change ones because people are afraid to move the traditional source of power of money in a g, a or these things. but a good coming look on this. so many conflicting interests that needs to be meant

that the governments have grappling with the account, the government is grappling with, for example. now what do you do us a call into government for example, for our contractor to come. do you go for me to get to commit shows or do you go for a little less thing solutions that we just have to model? so these are the issues that people at any company with that difficult to address. uh yeah, i said that we would end up with solutions and i know some of you already doing things. we've been your various spheres of influence to try and change the situation. let's say your solutions, please, as if we meant can be involved in the entire conversation, even in providing solutions in every household that we have a woman in our family, we have 3 women. if we plant, if the 3 cheese using the available water, the usefulness to choose fluid at the end of 3 years, we have more trees in the home. and this will help in improving the photos to cover

the number 2. on using the construction, there is a level of construction of construction defenses using these indigenous feet that takes over 2 years 40 to my tour. and there is a lot of the board of special taking place contributed by man. because the don't with us selling these things to also helping us substituting the households because the, the, the, the customer lives. yeah, because bustle zoom is no longer breakfast or is going extinct because of the defense economic conditions we have. so if we can have other methods of a building that is by using a cutting of the indigenous shoes that are providing for us coming to come back on to. and i think this will help. let me close this conversation by hearing mama as views, i just want to hear from you. and you said earlier, what you would do as a leader, but what do you want from, from the people of can now, what do you want as a? well, my need to kinda, uh and what can be done by the world to help alleviate the situation that you're in

because of climate change, your global 9. 0 yeah. they do go out and buy them. they threw up a lot of them when you yeah, go. are you going to let the money with the little apple? i think we have a thing here. but if a daughter feels hungry and the father is one providing for her, she'll cry when she's hungry. people in what they told the government would help us . they didn't want. all animals have died. people are hungry and want to know if we die from hunger and well the government get the support and they usually get from us getting that are because of where i'm going to do. you know that i'm not gonna worry about it. and i know when i will in the now the young at it we need, i don't know, but in a video we do, gonna like to wrap this up. so if there's anybody who has some solutions for me, this is the moment dominique, let's hear from you. we'll have less comments um, um, i think uh, one of the things that people need to do is to move these discussions from new york

and divorce bruce, since this is a very big debate to the bus to at least, i mean, it is we, we almost hit by the drought. this discussion shouldn't be discussing much somebody to, to do, uh, or even very so. uh because uh it is not just livelihoods. the fact that it is, it is these, these a huge cultural significance. that's a, that's a cut to have to that kind of people who do this. somebody people say create operating people. yeah. so i mean, if these, uh, if they something that affects their livelihood, then they're kind of, sorry, i mean, this is a very, very big problem. so it is a big debate to we are we appealing to that, that the, to the, to the wildly does have to bring this discussion home to where the problem is really, this was never going to be an easy conversation. it's not an easy one globally, it's not an easy one locally. but one thing has come up pretty clearly from my panel here that we need to do more talking and more talking to each other and look at each other. i think the local guys here who joined us today, i think the panel for breathing, the heat. and i especially thank you for watching the

and i'm sure you got the message too, but i heard the paper officer kind of saying that the conversation about climate change needs to be brought to the people most impacted by this and on. and that is such a new pull to world ages who as pop, 27 in egypt agreed to establish a funds to assist the venerable country is possibly impacted by climate change. now we wait to see if communities are likely to apply and others will benefit from the loss and damage fund. well, thanks for watching. i'll see you next time. well, maybe it was some music now, by the way

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